Re: [hexayurt] Beveling edges on 1" material worth it?

[Wolf]

>
>
> But my concern with this way of velcroing, with the velcro attached 
> directly to the beveled edges, is more structural. Would it hold up? 
>
>
Unfortunately my mechanical/structural engineering knowledge isn't strong 
enough to answer that question. But in my mind as I see the forces interact 
between panels the idea seems fairly good. I'll be interested to hear if it 
works out.

 

> Actually I'm having a hell of a time beveling my already-taped up panels, 
> and considering just doing Camp Danger-style hinges. In which case, 
> velcroing on the beveled edges would not be an option anyway.
>
>
Loved the video posted previously in this thread. Using a sharpened putty 
knife on the jig seems genius. I am guessing you are not having an easy 
time though getting a putty knife (or possibly any knife) through the tape 
layers already on your panels, possibly because of the leftover tape gum.

When I built my last yurt (the H12) I made a sled jig to attach to a basic 
jig saw. It wasn't quite as fast as the putty knife method, but it made 
clean accurate cuts and worked well.  I am thinking you may need an active 
moving blade (bandsaw or jig saw or possibly circular saw) to cut through 
the tape cleanly. Using a straight edge guide with a circular saw might be 
your best bet. Most modern circular saws allow blade angle to adjust up to 
45 degrees.

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Re: [hexayurt] Beveling edges on 1" material worth it?

[Wolf]

My H12 which is both beveled (on 1" polyiso) and velcro'd, returned from 
its 6th consecutive Burning Man with only a few feet (2-3' total in 3 
places) of glue separation. Repairs should be easy. I'm a big fan of velcro 
hexayurt tech; my yurt took only 15 minutes to assemble, and 15 minutes to 
take down this year since there was no wind.

I think I understand your idea of putting velcro on the bevel edges, and I 
ask you this question: Are you planning to assemble your yurt anywhere it 
might rain? And bear in mind before you answer, it rains at Black Rock City 
too!  If answer to your question is "yes" then think of how rain will roll 
off your roof sections towards the ground. If you have velcro between the 
sheets, the bevels may actually funnel the rain water into your yurt, 
giving you a swimming pool instead of a dry haven.

If you can add a kind of flashing over the seams redirecting water flow 
over the joints, you will probably be okay. The flashing can be as simple 
as a thin strip of poly tarp or vinyl or cordura taped to the polyiso.

--Wolf



On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 1:04:26 PM UTC-7, Bob Hearn wrote:
>
> I've been working on turning my H12 into a 5-1/2 yurt (see "Has anyone 
> built a yurt like this?" thread), and I'm beveling the edges. And planning 
> on using velcro for the temporary seams.
>
> Some friends were over helping me this morning, and the question arose, is 
> it feasible to apply the velcro directly to the beveled edges (after 
> taping), so they mate directly, rather than taping to the wall surfaces, in 
> which case a skirt is needed on one side? My first reaction was that would 
> sacrifice too much strength, but after thinking some more, I'm not so sure. 
> Wondering whether to cancel the order for 8 rolls of 15' x 2" velcro that I 
> just placed!
>
> Opinions?
>
>>
>>>  

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Re: [hexayurt] Beveling edges on 1" material worth it?

[Bob Hearn]

I've been working on turning my H12 into a 5-1/2 yurt (see "Has anyone 
built a yurt like this?" thread), and I'm beveling the edges. And planning 
on using velcro for the temporary seams.

Some friends were over helping me this morning, and the question arose, is 
it feasible to apply the velcro directly to the beveled edges (after 
taping), so they mate directly, rather than taping to the wall surfaces, in 
which case a skirt is needed on one side? My first reaction was that would 
sacrifice too much strength, but after thinking some more, I'm not so sure. 
Wondering whether to cancel the order for 8 rolls of 15' x 2" velcro that I 
just placed!

Opinions?


On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 4:03:35 PM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty) 
wrote:
>
> Sadly, I managed to buy velcro that didn't have its own adhesive, hence my 
> confusion. Using the bifi for the other face makes sense, assuming it's 
> covered in Aluminum tape. In retrospect, I have to concede that the Cordura 
> was overkill.
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM Bob Hearn  
> wrote:
>
>> Maybe I misinterpreted your comment. It seems to me:
>>
>> You have two pieces to each velcro edge. One (say loops) you can stick 
>> directly on the polyiso with its own adhesive -- or are you suggesting an 
>> external adhesive is needed here too? The problem I experienced is, if 
>> you're not careful it will pull the aluminum right off the board when you 
>> try to pull the velcro apart. The velcro's own adhesive seems plenty strong 
>> to adhere to the aluminum coating. But then I've only tested it over a 
>> week...
>>
>> The other side of the velcro (hooks) must be extended somehow from the 
>> adjoining polyiso piece. That's what you use cordura and barge cement for, 
>> right? I was just asking why not just use bifi and aluminum tape for this. 
>> I've seen reports of yurts where the permanent bifi hinges have held up for 
>> years. And if they fail, they are easy enough to repair onsite with more 
>> tape.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 11:50:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty) 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm, not sure I'm getting the picture. If there's velcro on the sticky 
>>> side of the bifi, don't you still need to attach the other side of the 
>>> velcro to the polyiso?
>>>
>>> But even if that improves the attachment scenario, I wouldn't trust bifi 
>>> to hold up over years. The dry desert is pretty hard on it, even if it's 
>>> covered. I attached my velcro to Barge-cemented Cordura.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:45 AM Bob Hearn  wrote:
>>>
 Perhaps a stupid question, but what is wrong with just using 6" 
 bifilament tape, 4" on the polyiso, 2" extending out with the velcro 
 attached to it, and covering the bifi with aluminum tape? All those things 
 are already in our toolkit with no need for gluing.


 On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:42:46 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill 
 (Swifty) wrote:

> Yeah, I like the velcro solution a lot (I had essentially zero tape 
> usage this year). But Barge Cement was not a magic-bullet solution to 
> gluing it down. Do we have a definitive adhesive for attaching to the 
> foil? 
> That seems to me the major weakness of this whole hexayurt scenario. 
> Should 
> be possible though, right, since bifi does such a good job adhering?...
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:29 AM Bob Hearn  wrote:
>
>> Ah, thanks for that insight. I'm leaning towards velcroing mine. But 
>> this year I had velcro straps for securing my swamp cooler to the yurt, 
>> and 
>> yes, I tore off some aluminum breaking it down. 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:19:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill 
>> (Swifty) wrote:
>>
>>> Be careful with that industrial-strength Velcro. It's not 
>>> necessarily the case that stronger is better, since its internal bond 
>>> can 
>>> easily be stronger than whatever you use to glue it down to the 
>>> polyiso. I 
>>> still struggle with the ends of mine coming unglued from the panel on 
>>> teardown, to say nothing of its grabbiness as a stumbling block when 
>>> stacking/unstacking panels.
>>>
>>> I've got a truncated-pyramid "Aztec" yurt, not a hexi, but I wish 
>>> there was Velcro that was a little less enthusiastic.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:38 PM Jeremy Shaw  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> I beveled mine (the hard way). Totally worth it. Makes the whole 
 thing fit together nicely. I can ratchet strap it down nice and tight 
 and 
 it is very solid.

 You can also save time on the playa by using 2" Wide Industrial 
 Strength Velcro Tape. Then when you get to the playa you just velco 
 everything together, and at the end you undo the velcro and pack it 
 up. No 
 waste and faster 

Re: [hexayurt] Beveling edges on 1" material worth it?

[Steve Upstill]

Sadly, I managed to buy velcro that didn't have its own adhesive, hence my
confusion. Using the bifi for the other face makes sense, assuming it's
covered in Aluminum tape. In retrospect, I have to concede that the Cordura
was overkill.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM Bob Hearn  wrote:

> Maybe I misinterpreted your comment. It seems to me:
>
> You have two pieces to each velcro edge. One (say loops) you can stick
> directly on the polyiso with its own adhesive -- or are you suggesting an
> external adhesive is needed here too? The problem I experienced is, if
> you're not careful it will pull the aluminum right off the board when you
> try to pull the velcro apart. The velcro's own adhesive seems plenty strong
> to adhere to the aluminum coating. But then I've only tested it over a
> week...
>
> The other side of the velcro (hooks) must be extended somehow from the
> adjoining polyiso piece. That's what you use cordura and barge cement for,
> right? I was just asking why not just use bifi and aluminum tape for this.
> I've seen reports of yurts where the permanent bifi hinges have held up for
> years. And if they fail, they are easy enough to repair onsite with more
> tape.
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 11:50:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty)
> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, not sure I'm getting the picture. If there's velcro on the sticky
>> side of the bifi, don't you still need to attach the other side of the
>> velcro to the polyiso?
>>
>> But even if that improves the attachment scenario, I wouldn't trust bifi
>> to hold up over years. The dry desert is pretty hard on it, even if it's
>> covered. I attached my velcro to Barge-cemented Cordura.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:45 AM Bob Hearn  wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps a stupid question, but what is wrong with just using 6"
>>> bifilament tape, 4" on the polyiso, 2" extending out with the velcro
>>> attached to it, and covering the bifi with aluminum tape? All those things
>>> are already in our toolkit with no need for gluing.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:42:46 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill
>>> (Swifty) wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, I like the velcro solution a lot (I had essentially zero tape
 usage this year). But Barge Cement was not a magic-bullet solution to
 gluing it down. Do we have a definitive adhesive for attaching to the foil?
 That seems to me the major weakness of this whole hexayurt scenario. Should
 be possible though, right, since bifi does such a good job adhering?...

 On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:29 AM Bob Hearn  wrote:

> Ah, thanks for that insight. I'm leaning towards velcroing mine. But
> this year I had velcro straps for securing my swamp cooler to the yurt, 
> and
> yes, I tore off some aluminum breaking it down.
>
>
> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:19:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill
> (Swifty) wrote:
>
>> Be careful with that industrial-strength Velcro. It's not necessarily
>> the case that stronger is better, since its internal bond can easily be
>> stronger than whatever you use to glue it down to the polyiso. I still
>> struggle with the ends of mine coming unglued from the panel on teardown,
>> to say nothing of its grabbiness as a stumbling block when
>> stacking/unstacking panels.
>>
>> I've got a truncated-pyramid "Aztec" yurt, not a hexi, but I wish
>> there was Velcro that was a little less enthusiastic.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:38 PM Jeremy Shaw 
>> wrote:
>>
> I beveled mine (the hard way). Totally worth it. Makes the whole thing
>>> fit together nicely. I can ratchet strap it down nice and tight and it 
>>> is
>>> very solid.
>>>
>>> You can also save time on the playa by using 2" Wide Industrial
>>> Strength Velcro Tape. Then when you get to the playa you just velco
>>> everything together, and at the end you undo the velcro and pack it up. 
>>> No
>>> waste and faster setup and breakdown.
>>>
>>> - jeremy
>>>
>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 2:37 PM, rymar  wrote:
>>>
>> I haven't come across an easy way to bevel edges of yurt but on 1"
 thickness panels does it make a difference? I would like to get as much
 taping done before I get to the playa and am wondering if I should 
 bevel or
 not. Thanks.

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Re: [hexayurt] Beveling edges on 1" material worth it?

[Bob Hearn]

Maybe I misinterpreted your comment. It seems to me:

You have two pieces to each velcro edge. One (say loops) you can stick 
directly on the polyiso with its own adhesive -- or are you suggesting an 
external adhesive is needed here too? The problem I experienced is, if 
you're not careful it will pull the aluminum right off the board when you 
try to pull the velcro apart. The velcro's own adhesive seems plenty strong 
to adhere to the aluminum coating. But then I've only tested it over a 
week...

The other side of the velcro (hooks) must be extended somehow from the 
adjoining polyiso piece. That's what you use cordura and barge cement for, 
right? I was just asking why not just use bifi and aluminum tape for this. 
I've seen reports of yurts where the permanent bifi hinges have held up for 
years. And if they fail, they are easy enough to repair onsite with more 
tape.


On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 11:50:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty) 
wrote:
>
> Hmm, not sure I'm getting the picture. If there's velcro on the sticky 
> side of the bifi, don't you still need to attach the other side of the 
> velcro to the polyiso?
>
> But even if that improves the attachment scenario, I wouldn't trust bifi 
> to hold up over years. The dry desert is pretty hard on it, even if it's 
> covered. I attached my velcro to Barge-cemented Cordura.
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:45 AM Bob Hearn  
> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps a stupid question, but what is wrong with just using 6" 
>> bifilament tape, 4" on the polyiso, 2" extending out with the velcro 
>> attached to it, and covering the bifi with aluminum tape? All those things 
>> are already in our toolkit with no need for gluing.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:42:46 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty) 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I like the velcro solution a lot (I had essentially zero tape 
>>> usage this year). But Barge Cement was not a magic-bullet solution to 
>>> gluing it down. Do we have a definitive adhesive for attaching to the foil? 
>>> That seems to me the major weakness of this whole hexayurt scenario. Should 
>>> be possible though, right, since bifi does such a good job adhering?...
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:29 AM Bob Hearn  wrote:
>>>
 Ah, thanks for that insight. I'm leaning towards velcroing mine. But 
 this year I had velcro straps for securing my swamp cooler to the yurt, 
 and 
 yes, I tore off some aluminum breaking it down. 


 On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:19:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill 
 (Swifty) wrote:

> Be careful with that industrial-strength Velcro. It's not necessarily 
> the case that stronger is better, since its internal bond can easily be 
> stronger than whatever you use to glue it down to the polyiso. I still 
> struggle with the ends of mine coming unglued from the panel on teardown, 
> to say nothing of its grabbiness as a stumbling block when 
> stacking/unstacking panels.
>
> I've got a truncated-pyramid "Aztec" yurt, not a hexi, but I wish 
> there was Velcro that was a little less enthusiastic.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:38 PM Jeremy Shaw  
> wrote:
>
 I beveled mine (the hard way). Totally worth it. Makes the whole thing 
>> fit together nicely. I can ratchet strap it down nice and tight and it 
>> is 
>> very solid.
>>
>> You can also save time on the playa by using 2" Wide Industrial 
>> Strength Velcro Tape. Then when you get to the playa you just velco 
>> everything together, and at the end you undo the velcro and pack it up. 
>> No 
>> waste and faster setup and breakdown.
>>
>> - jeremy
>>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 2:37 PM, rymar  wrote:
>>
> I haven't come across an easy way to bevel edges of yurt but on 1" 
>>> thickness panels does it make a difference? I would like to get as much 
>>> taping done before I get to the playa and am wondering if I should 
>>> bevel or 
>>> not. Thanks.
>>>
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Re: [hexayurt] Beveling edges on 1" material worth it?

[Steve Upstill]

Hmm, not sure I'm getting the picture. If there's velcro on the sticky side
of the bifi, don't you still need to attach the other side of the velcro to
the polyiso?

But even if that improves the attachment scenario, I wouldn't trust bifi to
hold up over years. The dry desert is pretty hard on it, even if it's
covered. I attached my velcro to Barge-cemented Cordura.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:45 AM Bob Hearn  wrote:

> Perhaps a stupid question, but what is wrong with just using 6" bifilament
> tape, 4" on the polyiso, 2" extending out with the velcro attached to it,
> and covering the bifi with aluminum tape? All those things are already in
> our toolkit with no need for gluing.
>
>
> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:42:46 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty)
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I like the velcro solution a lot (I had essentially zero tape usage
>> this year). But Barge Cement was not a magic-bullet solution to gluing it
>> down. Do we have a definitive adhesive for attaching to the foil? That
>> seems to me the major weakness of this whole hexayurt scenario. Should be
>> possible though, right, since bifi does such a good job adhering?...
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:29 AM Bob Hearn  wrote:
>>
>>> Ah, thanks for that insight. I'm leaning towards velcroing mine. But
>>> this year I had velcro straps for securing my swamp cooler to the yurt, and
>>> yes, I tore off some aluminum breaking it down.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:19:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill
>>> (Swifty) wrote:
>>>
 Be careful with that industrial-strength Velcro. It's not necessarily
 the case that stronger is better, since its internal bond can easily be
 stronger than whatever you use to glue it down to the polyiso. I still
 struggle with the ends of mine coming unglued from the panel on teardown,
 to say nothing of its grabbiness as a stumbling block when
 stacking/unstacking panels.

 I've got a truncated-pyramid "Aztec" yurt, not a hexi, but I wish there
 was Velcro that was a little less enthusiastic.

 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:38 PM Jeremy Shaw 
 wrote:

>>> I beveled mine (the hard way). Totally worth it. Makes the whole thing
> fit together nicely. I can ratchet strap it down nice and tight and it is
> very solid.
>
> You can also save time on the playa by using 2" Wide Industrial
> Strength Velcro Tape. Then when you get to the playa you just velco
> everything together, and at the end you undo the velcro and pack it up. No
> waste and faster setup and breakdown.
>
> - jeremy
>
 On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 2:37 PM, rymar  wrote:
>
 I haven't come across an easy way to bevel edges of yurt but on 1"
>> thickness panels does it make a difference? I would like to get as much
>> taping done before I get to the playa and am wondering if I should bevel 
>> or
>> not. Thanks.
>>
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Re: [hexayurt] Beveling edges on 1" material worth it?

[Bob Hearn]

Perhaps a stupid question, but what is wrong with just using 6" bifilament 
tape, 4" on the polyiso, 2" extending out with the velcro attached to it, 
and covering the bifi with aluminum tape? All those things are already in 
our toolkit with no need for gluing.


On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:42:46 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty) 
wrote:
>
> Yeah, I like the velcro solution a lot (I had essentially zero tape usage 
> this year). But Barge Cement was not a magic-bullet solution to gluing it 
> down. Do we have a definitive adhesive for attaching to the foil? That 
> seems to me the major weakness of this whole hexayurt scenario. Should be 
> possible though, right, since bifi does such a good job adhering?...
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:29 AM Bob Hearn  
> wrote:
>
>> Ah, thanks for that insight. I'm leaning towards velcroing mine. But this 
>> year I had velcro straps for securing my swamp cooler to the yurt, and yes, 
>> I tore off some aluminum breaking it down. 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:19:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty) 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Be careful with that industrial-strength Velcro. It's not necessarily 
>>> the case that stronger is better, since its internal bond can easily be 
>>> stronger than whatever you use to glue it down to the polyiso. I still 
>>> struggle with the ends of mine coming unglued from the panel on teardown, 
>>> to say nothing of its grabbiness as a stumbling block when 
>>> stacking/unstacking panels.
>>>
>>> I've got a truncated-pyramid "Aztec" yurt, not a hexi, but I wish there 
>>> was Velcro that was a little less enthusiastic.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:38 PM Jeremy Shaw  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> I beveled mine (the hard way). Totally worth it. Makes the whole thing 
 fit together nicely. I can ratchet strap it down nice and tight and it is 
 very solid.

 You can also save time on the playa by using 2" Wide Industrial 
 Strength Velcro Tape. Then when you get to the playa you just velco 
 everything together, and at the end you undo the velcro and pack it up. No 
 waste and faster setup and breakdown.

 - jeremy

>>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 2:37 PM, rymar  wrote:

>>> I haven't come across an easy way to bevel edges of yurt but on 1" 
> thickness panels does it make a difference? I would like to get as much 
> taping done before I get to the playa and am wondering if I should bevel 
> or 
> not. Thanks.
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Re: [hexayurt] Beveling edges on 1" material worth it?

[Steve Upstill]

Yeah, I like the velcro solution a lot (I had essentially zero tape usage
this year). But Barge Cement was not a magic-bullet solution to gluing it
down. Do we have a definitive adhesive for attaching to the foil? That
seems to me the major weakness of this whole hexayurt scenario. Should be
possible though, right, since bifi does such a good job adhering?...

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:29 AM Bob Hearn  wrote:

> Ah, thanks for that insight. I'm leaning towards velcroing mine. But this
> year I had velcro straps for securing my swamp cooler to the yurt, and yes,
> I tore off some aluminum breaking it down.
>
>
> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:19:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty)
> wrote:
>
>> Be careful with that industrial-strength Velcro. It's not necessarily the
>> case that stronger is better, since its internal bond can easily be
>> stronger than whatever you use to glue it down to the polyiso. I still
>> struggle with the ends of mine coming unglued from the panel on teardown,
>> to say nothing of its grabbiness as a stumbling block when
>> stacking/unstacking panels.
>>
>> I've got a truncated-pyramid "Aztec" yurt, not a hexi, but I wish there
>> was Velcro that was a little less enthusiastic.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:38 PM Jeremy Shaw  wrote:
>>
> I beveled mine (the hard way). Totally worth it. Makes the whole thing fit
>>> together nicely. I can ratchet strap it down nice and tight and it is very
>>> solid.
>>>
>>> You can also save time on the playa by using 2" Wide Industrial Strength
>>> Velcro Tape. Then when you get to the playa you just velco everything
>>> together, and at the end you undo the velcro and pack it up. No waste and
>>> faster setup and breakdown.
>>>
>>> - jeremy
>>>
>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 2:37 PM, rymar  wrote:
>>>
>> I haven't come across an easy way to bevel edges of yurt but on 1"
 thickness panels does it make a difference? I would like to get as much
 taping done before I get to the playa and am wondering if I should bevel or
 not. Thanks.

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Re: [hexayurt] Beveling edges on 1" material worth it?

[Bob Hearn]

Ah, thanks for that insight. I'm leaning towards velcroing mine. But this 
year I had velcro straps for securing my swamp cooler to the yurt, and yes, 
I tore off some aluminum breaking it down. 

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:19:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty) 
wrote:
>
> Be careful with that industrial-strength Velcro. It's not necessarily the 
> case that stronger is better, since its internal bond can easily be 
> stronger than whatever you use to glue it down to the polyiso. I still 
> struggle with the ends of mine coming unglued from the panel on teardown, 
> to say nothing of its grabbiness as a stumbling block when 
> stacking/unstacking panels.
>
> I've got a truncated-pyramid "Aztec" yurt, not a hexi, but I wish there 
> was Velcro that was a little less enthusiastic.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:38 PM Jeremy Shaw  > wrote:
>
>> I beveled mine (the hard way). Totally worth it. Makes the whole thing 
>> fit together nicely. I can ratchet strap it down nice and tight and it is 
>> very solid.
>>
>> You can also save time on the playa by using 2" Wide Industrial Strength 
>> Velcro Tape. Then when you get to the playa you just velco everything 
>> together, and at the end you undo the velcro and pack it up. No waste and 
>> faster setup and breakdown.
>>
>> - jeremy
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 2:37 PM, rymar > > wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't come across an easy way to bevel edges of yurt but on 1" 
>>> thickness panels does it make a difference? I would like to get as much 
>>> taping done before I get to the playa and am wondering if I should bevel or 
>>> not. Thanks.
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Re: [hexayurt] Beveling edges on 1" material worth it?

[Steve Upstill]

Be careful with that industrial-strength Velcro. It's not necessarily the
case that stronger is better, since its internal bond can easily be
stronger than whatever you use to glue it down to the polyiso. I still
struggle with the ends of mine coming unglued from the panel on teardown,
to say nothing of its grabbiness as a stumbling block when
stacking/unstacking panels.

I've got a truncated-pyramid "Aztec" yurt, not a hexi, but I wish there was
Velcro that was a little less enthusiastic.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:38 PM Jeremy Shaw  wrote:

> I beveled mine (the hard way). Totally worth it. Makes the whole thing fit
> together nicely. I can ratchet strap it down nice and tight and it is very
> solid.
>
> You can also save time on the playa by using 2" Wide Industrial Strength
> Velcro Tape. Then when you get to the playa you just velco everything
> together, and at the end you undo the velcro and pack it up. No waste and
> faster setup and breakdown.
>
> - jeremy
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 2:37 PM, rymar  wrote:
>
>> I haven't come across an easy way to bevel edges of yurt but on 1"
>> thickness panels does it make a difference? I would like to get as much
>> taping done before I get to the playa and am wondering if I should bevel or
>> not. Thanks.
>>
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Re: [hexayurt] Beveling edges on 1" material worth it?

[Jeremy Shaw]

I beveled mine (the hard way). Totally worth it. Makes the whole thing fit
together nicely. I can ratchet strap it down nice and tight and it is very
solid.

You can also save time on the playa by using 2" Wide Industrial Strength
Velcro Tape. Then when you get to the playa you just velco everything
together, and at the end you undo the velcro and pack it up. No waste and
faster setup and breakdown.

- jeremy

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 2:37 PM, rymar  wrote:

> I haven't come across an easy way to bevel edges of yurt but on 1"
> thickness panels does it make a difference? I would like to get as much
> taping done before I get to the playa and am wondering if I should bevel or
> not. Thanks.
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Re: [hexayurt] Beveling edges on 1" material worth it?

[Steve Upstill]

Personally, I hate futzing around with fit on-playa, and the more snugly
the edges fit together, the better the structure of the yurt--and that goes
double for a 1"-er.

If you know someone with a tilting saw, and they can give you a piece of,
say, 1x4 with an edge bevelled to the proper angle, you can use that as a
guide (and a ruler!) for a utility knife cut. It won't be perfect, but
it'll be close enough to help--bigly.


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> I haven't come across an easy way to bevel edges of yurt but on 1"
> thickness panels does it make a difference? I would like to get as much
> taping done before I get to the playa and am wondering if I should bevel or
> not. Thanks.
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