Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-02 Thread turb0z
, March 02, 2009 1:17 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 I was monitoring CPU usage at the machine... Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:10:19 -0500 From: kil...@righttorule.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 Also the cpu number

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-02 Thread CLAN RCR
When we have both of our 32 slot servers full, and the arena server we are using about 10mbps of bandwidth which is about 1.1mb/s. SRCDS doesn't seem like it scales well bandwidth utilization wise since I think one full 32 slot will use around 2.5mbps but you can limit the bandwidth that passes

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-02 Thread CLAN RCR
Hey Midnight, I looked up HPET and this is what Microsoft says about it. The High Precision Event Timer (HPET) was developed jointly by Intel and Microsoft to meet the timing requirements of multimedia and other time-sensitive applications. Originally, the HPET was called the Multimedia Timer (MM

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-02 Thread turb0z
:26 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 Hey Midnight, I looked up HPET and this is what Microsoft says about it. The High Precision Event Timer (HPET) was developed jointly by Intel and Microsoft to meet the timing requirements of multimedia

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-02 Thread Blood Letter
unnecessary. Again with the 1000 fps bullshit? From: tur...@undergamer.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:34:42 -0600 Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 Answers: 1. Only Intel, and only certain motherboards. 2. HPET only gives your processor advanced timing to achieve

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-02 Thread CLAN RCR
bullshit? From: tur...@undergamer.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:34:42 -0600 Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 Answers: 1. Only Intel, and only certain motherboards. 2. HPET only gives your processor advanced timing to achieve 1000fps. Yes, you

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-02 Thread Gary Stanley
At 10:26 AM 3/2/2009, CLAN RCR wrote: Hey Midnight, I looked up HPET and this is what Microsoft says about it. The High Precision Event Timer (HPET) was developed jointly by Intel and Microsoft to meet the timing requirements of multimedia and other time-sensitive applications. Originally, the

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-02 Thread Blood Letter
I see you have experience with Nvidia's 690G. LOL. Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:10:50 -0500 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com From: g...@velocity-servers.net Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 At 10:26 AM 3/2/2009, CLAN RCR wrote: Hey Midnight, I looked up HPET

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-02 Thread Midnight
Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of CLAN RCR Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:26 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 Hey Midnight, I looked up HPET and this is what

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-02 Thread Gary Stanley
: g...@velocity-servers.net Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 At 10:26 AM 3/2/2009, CLAN RCR wrote: Hey Midnight, I looked up HPET and this is what Microsoft says about it. The High Precision Event Timer (HPET) was developed jointly by Intel and Microsoft to meet the timing

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-02 Thread CLAN RCR
APIC interrupt routing. Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:10:50 -0500 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com From: g...@velocity-servers.net Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 At 10:26 AM 3/2/2009, CLAN RCR wrote: Hey Midnight, I looked up HPET and this is what

[hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread munra
If you were choosing an os for a new server would it be 2003 or 2008 Box specs are Core2Duo E6600 (2 x 2.4Ghz) 2048MB DDR2 RAM 250GB 7200RPM SATA2 HD I like 2008 but I would like to hear what the experts have to say. P.S. msleeper take it easy on a noob

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread munra
Sorry Forget to add I would be running l4d/TF2 servers Quoting mu...@anbservers.net: If you were choosing an os for a new server would it be 2003 or 2008 Box specs are Core2Duo E6600 (2 x 2.4Ghz) 2048MB DDR2 RAM 250GB 7200RPM SATA2 HD I like 2008 but I would like to hear what the

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread MONDO
Server 2003 will do you fine - tried and true my friend... tried and true. Also - depending on how many gameservers you will be running from this box, you'll want much more RAM, at least 4096MB I would say. Good luck! On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:51 PM, mu...@anbservers.net wrote: Sorry Forget to

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread 1nsane
The question would be... why do you need server 2008? It will eat more ram and have more processes doing hell knows what right out of the box. And I personally don't see a difference between the two. It's possible to run 1000 FPS servers on server 2003. On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:51 PM,

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Cc2iscooL
2008. Hands down. On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:47 PM, mu...@anbservers.net wrote: If you were choosing an os for a new server would it be 2003 or 2008 Box specs are Core2Duo E6600 (2 x 2.4Ghz) 2048MB DDR2 RAM 250GB 7200RPM SATA2 HD I like 2008 but I would like to hear what the experts have

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Alec Sanger
what about core? Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:01:34 -0500 From: 1nsane...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 The question would be... why do you need server 2008? It will eat more ram and have

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread munra
Well let me ask you this. How many l4d servers to you think I can run on this box with 2003/2008? Off topic: I know my ded server company is on this list and I assume they are reading this. Please be advise you will be getting a call Monday about your response to ticket 5367. Quoting

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Midnight
2008. Better Kernel (google for the details), supports HPET (though only really needed for 1000fps servers). 2003 does not. Cc2iscooL wrote: 2008. Hands down. On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:47 PM, mu...@anbservers.net wrote: ___ To unsubscribe,

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Midnight
4-5 concurrently. I think your RAM is fine since your CPU is so small. mu...@anbservers.net wrote: Well let me ask you this. How many l4d servers to you think I can run on this box with 2003/2008? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences,

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Blood Letter
...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 4-5 concurrently. I think your RAM is fine since your CPU is so small. mu...@anbservers.net wrote: Well let me ask you this. How many l4d servers to you think I can run on this box with 2003/2008

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Blood Letter
in running any server above 100 fps/tickrate. It can cause networking issues for clients. (There is a big difference between tickrate and framerate, as well.) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:47:54 -0500 From: mu...@anbservers.net To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 If you

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread munra
complex (yeah, right) AI Director. 1000 FPS!!! servers are a joke. Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:23:36 -0800 From: mido...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 4-5 concurrently. I think your RAM is fine since your CPU is so small. mu...@anbservers.net wrote

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Matthew Gottlieb
usage. L4D does not tax the CPU at all, despite all the hype about the amazingly complex (yeah, right) AI Director. 1000 FPS!!! servers are a joke. Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:23:36 -0800 From: mido...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 4-5

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread 1nsane
. (There is a big difference between tickrate and framerate, as well.) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:47:54 -0500 From: mu...@anbservers.net To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 If you were choosing an os for a new server would it be 2003 or 2008 Box specs

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Frank Dragonsdoom V
I hate to sound like a newbie and ask this here, but I can't really find a concise answer in layman's terms to my question. How much bandwith(in megabytes if possible) would I need for a 16-20 slot TF2 server and would my residential connection be able to support that sort of traffic. I have a

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Octo
My servers tend to average about 10kbyte/sec per slot out. I never paid any attention to in. :) On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 08:02:46PM -0500, Frank Dragonsdoom V wrote: I hate to sound like a newbie and ask this here, but I can't really find a concise answer in layman's terms to my question.

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 1000FPS? n00bs! You clearly haven't seen the 2000FPS servers (I so WISH I was kidding...) I played TF2 on a server running at 20FPS without any problems. I don't see why people bother with 1000FPS servers. However you can sell a 1000FPS server

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Frank Dragonsdoom V
Oh great, I would be dumb enough to reply to a existing thread on someone elses problems wouldn't I? Sorry about that, but at least I am not spamming up people's inboxes... -Dragonsdoom ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread 1nsane
are a joke. Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:23:36 -0800 From: mido...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 4-5 concurrently. I think your RAM is fine since your CPU is so small. mu...@anbservers.net wrote: Well let me ask you

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Midnight
That's kinda the point. You don't want to go over 40-50% CPU usage or you will soon start seeing bad performance. You can add 2GB so you have 4GB and then run 8-10 servers, but you'll be pushing your luck. Blood Letter wrote: Are you joking? I ran 4 L4D servers on an old dual core athlon,

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread [ЯтR] The-/iller
Also the cpu number in the stats query isn't the best Midnight wrote: That's kinda the point. You don't want to go over 40-50% CPU usage or you will soon start seeing bad performance. You can add 2GB so you have 4GB and then run 8-10 servers, but you'll be pushing your luck. Blood

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread 1nsane
Nonsense! It once said that the CPU usage was 125% That is clearly accurate. But in regards to FPS and CPU usage. You can use task manager too. If its boosted the general CPU usage will be the same regardless of what fps_max is set to. On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 10:10 PM, [ЯтR] The-/iller

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Rick Payton
...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Frank Dragonsdoom V Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 3:03 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 I hate to sound like a newbie and ask this here, but I can't really find a concise answer

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Blood Letter
2009 17:16:06 -0800 From: mido...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 That's kinda the point. You don't want to go over 40-50% CPU usage or you will soon start seeing bad performance. You can add 2GB so you have 4GB and then run 8-10 servers

Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008

2009-03-01 Thread Blood Letter
I was monitoring CPU usage at the machine... Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:10:19 -0500 From: kil...@righttorule.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] 2003 or 2008 Also the cpu number in the stats query isn't the best Midnight wrote: That's kinda the point. You don't