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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Understanding choke / tweaking for lag
I have:
sv_minrate 35000 // push the slackers up
sv_maxrate 7 // nobody needs more then that
sv_minupdaterate 33 // 1/2 of server tick, makes them recieve every other
server update
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My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that these cvars control the
behavior of large packets
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My understanding, and I
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 21:54:37 +0300
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Understanding choke / tweaking for lag
I'm not 100% sure, because I don't have the source code, but:
1. If the data that must be sent to a client is smaller
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My understanding, and I could be wrong
the convars (or
rather all the rate-related commands) be? I run sv_maxrate 10 on
both 24 and 32 slot.
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I'm not 100% sure
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My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that these cvars
control the
behavior of large packets
On 07.08.2012 19:15, Invalid Protocol wrote:
And net_splitrate and net_splitpacket_maxrate have nothing to do with
how
packets are created, their size etc...
If you know what they do, I am all ears. (And, i'm pretty sure plenty
of others are)
It would seem that there are quite a lot of
of both the convars (or
rather all the rate-related commands) be? I run sv_maxrate 10 on
both 24 and 32 slot.
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 21:54:37 +0300
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Understanding choke / tweaking for lag
I'm
] Understanding choke / tweaking for lag
On 07.08.2012 19:15, Invalid Protocol wrote:
And net_splitrate and net_splitpacket_maxrate have nothing to do with how
packets are created, their size etc...
If you know what they do, I am all ears. (And, i'm pretty sure plenty of
others are)
It would
The original graphs look exactly like what happens when a client has
manually twiddled their rate settings and it doesn't match the server.
Or, the user has their rates manually set too low, ala this:
http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Bad_choke_solution
If you want to try it
daniel nilsson jokihao wrote: Sorry for duplicate answers, but:
Choke is when the player can't receive all the packets that the
server are sending.
Wrong.
Russell Smith wrote:
Choke itself is caused by the server holding back sending packets to a
player. This is due to the players
The second picture looks to me like it could be a server fps drop which
happens sometimes when a player enters the game.
As for the first it looks like you might not have your server splitting
larger packets, what are your settings for the following:
sv_maxrate
sv_minrate
sv_minupdaterate
I think your value of
sv_mincmdrate
Is to high for some players...
On 2012-08-05 21:31, Peter Reinhold wrote:
Hi all,
I know this has been up before, but since the Pyro update i've had a
rise in comments about lag, and bad/off hit registration from players
that have ping in the 20-30
Sorry for duplicate answers, but:
Choke is when the player can't receive all the packets that the server
are sending.
look at your min and max cmdrate values and you can perhaps find a solution.
On 2012-08-05 21:31, Peter Reinhold wrote:
Hi all,
I know this has been up before, but since the
Russel, what are the correct values for these? Or rather, the recommended ones.
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 12:53:06 -0700
From: ve...@tinylittlerobots.us
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Understanding choke / tweaking for lag
The second picture looks to me like
I don't know what is recommended but I use:
sv_minrate 5
sv_maxrate 0
sv_minupdaterate 40
sv_maxupdaterate 66
sv_mincmdrate 40
sv_maxcmdrate 66
net_splitpacket_maxrate 10
net_splitrate 2
On 8/5/2012 1:01 PM, Michael Johansen wrote:
Russel, what are the correct values for these? Or
Do you know what the net_splitpacket_maxrate and net_splitrate does?
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 13:06:01 -0700
From: ve...@tinylittlerobots.us
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Understanding choke / tweaking for lag
I don't know what is recommended but I use
My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that these cvars control the
behavior of large packets that are fragmented before being sent to the
client. net_splitpacket_maxrate limits the rate these fragmented packets
are sent out and net_splitrate limits how many of these packets are
allowed
Ah right, so basically, this increases hitreg?
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 13:18:43 -0700
From: ve...@tinylittlerobots.us
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Understanding choke / tweaking for lag
My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that these cvars control
Very good. Thanks for explaining and sharing the convars. Definitively improved
the hitreg on my servers.
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 13:29:34 -0700
From: ve...@tinylittlerobots.us
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Understanding choke / tweaking for lag
It should
On 05.08.2012 20:53, Russell Smith wrote:
As for the first it looks like you might not have your server
splitting larger packets, what are your settings for the following:
sv_maxrate
sv_minrate
sv_minupdaterate
sv_maxupdaterate
sv_mincmdrate
sv_maxcmdrate
net_splitpacket_maxrate
net_splitrate
On 05.08.2012 21:06, Russell Smith wrote:
I don't know what is recommended but I use:
sv_minrate 5
sv_maxrate 0
sv_minupdaterate 40
sv_maxupdaterate 66
sv_mincmdrate 40
sv_maxcmdrate 66
net_splitpacket_maxrate 10
net_splitrate 2
Thanks for that input, i'll try and change my default
On 05.08.2012 20:56, daniel nilsson jokihao wrote:
I think your value of
sv_mincmdrate
Is to high for some players...
I've run with default values (10) up til now.
How exactly does this value affect players? (I'm guessing its related
to either internet connection or CPU?)
Is there a
minrate of 5000 is quite low, unless you're catering to dialup users. I
would try tweaking all of your min rates as well as the
splitpacket/splitrate cvars.
Choke itself is caused by the server holding back sending packets to a
player. This is due to the players rate being set too low to
If you are ever wondering what a cvar does, type help cvar or the cvar
itself on server console without a value. This happens:
help net_splitpacket_maxrate
net_splitpacket_maxrate = 15000 min. 1000.00 max. 1048576.00
- Max bytes per second when queueing splitpacket chunks
On 05/08/2012 21:37, Peter Reinhold wrote:
On 05.08.2012 20:53, Russell Smith wrote:
As for the first it looks like you might not have your server
splitting larger packets, what are your settings for the following:
sv_maxrate
sv_minrate
sv_minupdaterate
sv_maxupdaterate
sv_mincmdrate
I used a rate of 5000 back in my Quakeworld days which was at least 10+
years ago on dialup, lol.
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Understanding choke
On 06/08/2012 00:07, Essay Tew Phaun wrote:
I used a rate of 5000 back in my Quakeworld days which was at least 10+
years ago on dialup, lol.
Yeah, some of the shots you made back then are probably just about to
reach the server... :)
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Dan
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