Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-27 Thread Saint K .
: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of gamead...@127001.org [gamead...@127001.org] Sent: 27 July 2011 01:48 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Wow! Did you change any settings, or just

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-26 Thread Saint K .
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 To get a true picture on the cpu load you have to monitor both the machines cpu-usage by core, and the srcds instances usage of cpu. This can be monitored by munin. Offcource it can also monitor fps, no.off players, uptime and the network traffic on the nic

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-26 Thread Andres Pozos
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 To get a true picture on the cpu load you have to monitor both the machines cpu-usage by core, and the srcds instances usage of cpu. This can be monitored by munin. Offcource it can also monitor fps, no.off players, uptime

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-26 Thread Saint K .
Of Andres Pozos [javato...@yahoo.es] Sent: 26 July 2011 13:59 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 More than 80% cpu usage = lag spikes Everyone thanks a lot for your feedback regarding this issue. I went into the datacenter today and had

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-26 Thread gameadmin
Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 We ran around 90-100% per core with 40-ish FPS. Players found that reasonably acceptable, so I'm guessing no one is going to complain now. Saint K. From: hlds_linux-boun

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Saint K .
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 I have a AMD Phenom x6 1055T doing multiple servers at the same time. TF2 causes the active core to go to 100% for about two seconds during map changes, but otherwise I've never seen it go that high

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Andrew Armitage
. From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Molina [je...@opendreams.net] Sent: 25 July 2011 05:15 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 I have a AMD Phenom x6 1055T

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Saint K .
@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Maybe the issue is the network hardware? HLDS is very network intensive. I believe that some cards support checksum offloading and some don't. A On 25/07/2011 07:28, Saint K. wrote: What I am still not getting is that our Xeon E5420's are doing

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Andrew Armitage
...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Armitage [and...@thirdlife.org] Sent: 25 July 2011 09:36 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Maybe the issue is the network hardware? HLDS is very network intensive. I believe

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Saint K .
[hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Armitage [and...@thirdlife.org] Sent: 25 July 2011 10:36 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 I wouldn't expect problems with. But I happily admit to being no expert. Try ethtool -k interface and see

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Jesse Molina
The network traffic that srcds uses is mostly udp, not tcp, so all the tcp driver offloading stuff is not involved here, for the most part. Any old network card should do. Not that the quality of the driver doesn't affect udp traffic. Some drivers can have trouble with large amounts of

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Saint K .
-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Molina [je...@opendreams.net] Sent: 25 July 2011 11:42 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 The network traffic that srcds uses is mostly udp, not tcp, so all the tcp driver offloading stuff

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Marco Padovan
[je...@opendreams.net] Sent: 25 July 2011 11:42 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 The network traffic that srcds uses is mostly udp, not tcp, so all the tcp driver offloading stuff is not involved here, for the most part. Any old network

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Saint K .
...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marco Padovan [e...@evcz.tk] Sent: 25 July 2011 12:12 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 map used? is the problem happening on stock maps with no mods too? on a 100% stock 32slot server running at 500fps on a realtime

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Jesse Molina
...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Armitage [and...@thirdlife.org] Sent: 25 July 2011 10:36 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 I wouldn't expect problems with. But I happily admit to being no expert

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Michael Johansen
. From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Armitage [and...@thirdlife.org] Sent: 25 July 2011 09:36 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Maybe the issue

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Saint K .
...@live.no] Sent: 25 July 2011 12:44 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 I've got a question about your kernel, is it patched with the RT-patch? I know that RT causes more stable fps but a lot higher cpu load. Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 03:36:10 -0700 From: je

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Saint K .
] Sent: 25 July 2011 12:36 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Cc: Saint K. Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Looks fine, don't mess with it. generic-receive-offload would be good if you were doing 10G networking, but otherwise forget about it. Make sure that your RAM

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Andres Pozos
: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Looks fine, don't mess with it. generic-receive-offload would be good if you were doing 10G networking, but otherwise forget about it. Make sure that your RAM is in the right slots as recommended by Tyan. That can slow things down sometimes but I would not expect

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread James Botting
. From: Jesse Molina [je...@opendreams.net] Sent: 25 July 2011 12:36 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Cc: Saint K. Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Looks fine, don't mess with it. generic-receive-offload would be good if you were doing 10G

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Michael Johansen
Linux server mailing list Cc: Saint K. Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Looks fine, don't mess with it. generic-receive-offload would be good if you were doing 10G networking, but otherwise forget about it. Make sure that your RAM is in the right slots as recommended by Tyan

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Saint K .
[bottswan...@googlemail.com] Sent: 25 July 2011 13:18 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Everytime a new weapon goes 'pew pew' the laser destroys a section of your CPU. It's a new feature. On 25/07/2011 12:14, Andres Pozos javato...@yahoo.es

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread ics
server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Everytime a new weapon goes 'pew pew' the laser destroys a section of your CPU. It's a new feature. On 25/07/2011 12:14, Andres Pozosjavato...@yahoo.es wrote: Its not a bug its a feature, jk. Orangebox take teh 100% cpu usage in a core

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Marco Padovan
...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marco Padovan [e...@evcz.tk] Sent: 25 July 2011 12:12 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 map used? is the problem happening on stock maps with no mods too? on a 100% stock 32slot server running at 500fps on a realtime

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Saint K .
...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics [i...@ics-base.net] Sent: 25 July 2011 13:42 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 How load averages and cpu usage depends a lot from the kernel. I believe individual

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread gameadmin
Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 I could live with that, at least knowing a reason why my 3000,- euro hardware can only sustain 7-ish 24 slots TF2 servers. Saint K. From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread ics
free. -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux- boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: 25 July 2011 12:22 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 I could live

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Saint K .
[hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of gamead...@127001.org [gamead...@127001.org] Sent: 25 July 2011 13:56 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Regardless of CPU usage you're going to struggle running more servers than

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Andres Pozos
Of Saint K. Sent: 25 July 2011 12:22 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 I could live with that, at least knowing a reason why my 3000,- euro hardware can only sustain 7-ish 24 slots TF2 servers. Saint K

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Eric Riemers
2011 12:22 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 I could live with that, at least knowing a reason why my 3000,- euro hardware can only sustain 7-ish 24 slots TF2 servers. Saint K. From: hlds_linux

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Svensk Ljud Ljus Produktion
...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of James Botting [bottswan...@googlemail.com] Sent: 25 July 2011 13:18 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Everytime a new weapon goes 'pew pew' the laser destroys

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Svensk Ljud Ljus Produktion
] Sent: 25 July 2011 13:56 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Regardless of CPU usage you're going to struggle running more servers than that. The thing is, it's not that the servers use a lot of CPU*, it's just that when they need

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-25 Thread Jesse Molina
I thought maybe I misunderstood or you mis-typed previously. You are saying that your server-side FPS is very unstable, below 100? I thought maybe you meant 66 packets-per-second/ticks/cmdrate/updaterate. FYI, I believe that the standard fps_max for tf2 is 300. My cruddy old AMD x2 4600+

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-24 Thread Michael Johansen
The cpu usage in Linux is not correct. Do uptime and see what terminal value or something like that you get after you've ran it a few times. From: riem...@binkey.nl To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:00:11 +0200 Subject: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 All, I

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-24 Thread Eric Riemers
@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 The cpu usage in Linux is not correct. Do uptime and see what terminal value or something like that you get after you've ran it a few times. From: riem...@binkey.nl To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:00:11 +0200

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-24 Thread Michael Johansen
13:06 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 The cpu usage in Linux is not correct. Do uptime and see what terminal value or something like that you get after you've ran it a few times. From: riem...@binkey.nl To: hlds_linux

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-24 Thread Evaldas
Jul 2011 13:20:02 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Ok, from console then I ran a few stats after each other. CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.03 117488.39 310790.97 491 0 95.55 31 So I see a 99% cpu in this one, surely it might not be the best way

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-24 Thread Michael Johansen
I don't know tbh. I do know that there is a difference between all those values. To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:19:00 +0300 From: hlds_li...@evagames.eu Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 I have a question about that. Does setting the fps_max affect

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-24 Thread Saint K .
:) From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Evaldas [hlds_li...@evagames.eu] Sent: 24 July 2011 14:19 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 I have a question

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-24 Thread Claudio Beretta
I can confirm that a 32 slots TF2 server maxes out a core of a i7 920 or a xeon w3520 on linux On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Eric Riemers riem...@binkey.nl wrote: All, I run a 32 slots server on a i7 920 @ 2.67ghz, but i can see with top and such that its potentially maxing out at 100%

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-24 Thread gameadmin
Our i5 750 (same clockspeed) runs around 40% when full at 24 slots, though, as people have said, uptime can give you a better idea if the box is struggling or not. -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux- boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-24 Thread ics
Uptime? You mean the same load averages as top shows? -ics 24.7.2011 20:27, gamead...@127001.org kirjoitti: Our i5 750 (same clockspeed) runs around 40% when full at 24 slots, though, as people have said, uptime can give you a better idea if the box is struggling or not. -Original

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-24 Thread Eric Riemers
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics Sent: zondag 24 juli 2011 19:37 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Uptime? You mean the same load averages as top shows? -ics 24.7.2011 20:27, gamead...@127001.org kirjoitti: Our i5

Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920

2011-07-24 Thread Jesse Molina
I have a AMD Phenom x6 1055T doing multiple servers at the same time. TF2 causes the active core to go to 100% for about two seconds during map changes, but otherwise I've never seen it go that high for extended periods of time. Average during full 24-player usage is about 40%. I also have