[homenet] Homenet market gap analysis...

2019-03-13 Thread Ted Lemon
In Bangkok I gave a talk about what Homenet gets right, what new solutions have emerged in the market since homenet started, and what is better about those solutions, as well as what homenet still adds. I’ve written up a document that discusses this in a bit more depth, and would appreciate

Re: [homenet] homenet: what now? ... next?

2019-03-13 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > On Fri, 1 Mar 2019, Michael Richardson wrote: > >> For the last 10 to 15 years the ISP-provided home router has come to >> dominate the market, with the belief by the ISPs that this is a MUST >> that they control the device. Many (but not all) at the IETF do not >>

Re: [homenet] Homenet market gap analysis...

2019-03-13 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > I especially agree with the statement on wifi roaming between APs does > require shared L2, and there has been discussions about this and how > to solve that, and I think it's a requirement for homenet to become a > useful solution in that space. This would probably

Re: [homenet] Homenet market gap analysis...

2019-03-13 Thread Michael Thomas
On 3/13/19 11:35 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: In Bangkok I gave a talk about what Homenet gets right, what new solutions have emerged in the market since homenet started, and what is better about those solutions, as well as what homenet still adds.   I’ve written up a document that discusses this in a

Re: [homenet] Homenet market gap analysis...

2019-03-13 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, Ted Lemon wrote: In Bangkok I gave a talk about what Homenet gets right, what new solutions have emerged in the market since homenet started, and what is better about those solutions, as well as what homenet still adds. I’ve written up a document that discusses this in a

Re: [homenet] homenet: what now? ... next?

2019-03-13 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 1 Mar 2019, Michael Richardson wrote: For the last 10 to 15 years the ISP-provided home router has come to dominate the market, with the belief by the ISPs that this is a MUST that they control the device. Many (but not all) at the IETF do not share this view, but most non-technical

Re: [homenet] Homenet market gap analysis...

2019-03-13 Thread Ted Lemon
I suppose a point to be investigated is that however roaming happens, unless all packets are flooded to all links, the layer 2 switch always triggers a routing change, whether at layer 2 or layer 3. So it might be worth doing an analysis of the pros and cons of L2 versus L3 roaming. I know Dave

Re: [homenet] Homenet market gap analysis...

2019-03-13 Thread Ted Lemon
Tim, it’s pretty clear that in the case of constrained networks, there needs to be subnetting. Homenet is uniquely positioned to make that possible—if you have a regular router that doesn’t support something like HNCP, there’s no way to make it work. In the case of a multi-premise homenet,

Re: [homenet] Homenet market gap analysis...

2019-03-13 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Ted Lemon writes: > I suppose a point to be investigated is that however roaming happens, > unless all packets are flooded to all links, the layer 2 switch always > triggers a routing change, whether at layer 2 or layer 3. > > So it might be worth doing an analysis of the pros and cons of L2