[HOT] Conference GeONG - 2-3 November - Registrations open

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear HOT/OSM community members,

/[French version below]/

CartONG is delighted to announce that *registration for the 2020 GeOnG 
Forum is open*! https://live.eventtia.com/en/2020-geong-forum/register


Organized by CartONG every two years since 2008, the GeOnG forum gathers 
humanitarian and development actors and professionals specialized in 
information management. This year's edition will fully take place 
*online* for the first time on *November 2nd & 3rd*.


Our theme this year is *"People at the heart of Information Management: 
promoting responsible and inclusive practices"*, and we will strive to 
be as inclusive as possible. To this end, *we have reserved a certain 
number of "Participants - advanced tickets (with 2 workshops)" for 
actors of the Global South and intend to make them available free of 
charge*. As a Global South actor, if you wish to benefit from the 
advanced ticket for free, you will first need to submit arequest via the 
form you can find by clicking *here 
*. 
Once your request is granted, you'll receive a discount code with which 
you'll be able to register.


The agenda covers 
a diversity of topics, some of them being directly connected to 
participatory mapping in general and OSM in particular:


 * *Round table "From beneficiaries to participants : mapping as an
   engagement tool for communities",* including Geoffrey from HOT, Yaam
   Solidarités (OSM BF partner) and CartONG
 * *A workshop "How can we change the way we work by integrating
   participatory mapping methodologies?"* facilitated by CartONG
 * *Multiple lightning talks including "Integrating gender equality
   into community mapping projects: the why and how*" by HOT,
   *sensitive mapping and its' potential uses in humanitarian and
   development project * by CartONG,*"Identifying Refugee sites on OSM
   with a dedicated tag - why does it matter?" *by CartONG or
   *"OpenStreetMap Sketch Map Tool - The Future of OpenStreetMap Field
   Papers"* by Institute of Geography of the Heidelberg University
 * And many more!

Looking forward to see you remotely in November!

The CartONG team

***

 CartONG est heureuse d'annoncer que *les inscriptions au Forum GeOnG 
2020 sont ouvertes *! https://live.eventtia.com/en/2020-geong-forum/register


Organisé par CartONG tous les deux ans depuis 2008, le forum GeOnG 
rassemble les acteurs de l'humanitaire et du développement ainsi que les 
professionnels spécialisés dans la gestion de l'information. L'édition 
de cette année se déroulera *entièrement en ligne *pour la première fois 
les *2 et 3 novembre*.


Notre thème cette année est "Les personnes au cœur de la gestion de 
l'information : promouvoir des pratiques responsables et inclusives", et 
nous nous efforcerons d'être aussi inclusifs que possible. A cette fin, 
*nous avons réservé un certain nombre de "Tickets avancés" (avec 2 
ateliers) gratuits pour les acteurs du Sud*. En tant qu'acteur du Sud, 
si vous souhaitez bénéficier du billet avancé gratuitement, vous devrez 
d'abord soumettre votre demande via le formulaire que vous pouvez 
trouver en cliquant *ici 
*. 
Une fois votre demande acceptée, vous recevrez un code de réduction avec 
lequel vous pourrez vous inscrire.


L'agenda couvre 
une diversité de sujets, certains d'entre eux étant directement liés à 
la cartographie participative en général et à OSM en particulier :


 * Table ronde "*Des bénéficiaires aux participants : la cartographie
   comme outil d'engagement des communautés*", avec la participation de
   Geoffrey de HOT, Yaam Solidarités (partenaire OSM BF) et CartONG
 * Un atelier "*Comment pouvons-nous changer notre façon de travailler
   en intégrant des méthodologies de cartographie participative*" animé
   par CartONG
 * Plusieurs "lightning talk", notamment "L*'intégration de l'égalité
   des sexes dans les projets de cartographie communautaire : le
   pourquoi et le comment*" par HOT, la *cartographie sensible et ses
   utilisations potentielles dans les projets humanitaires et de
   développement *par CartONG, "L'*identification des sites de réfugiés
   sur OSM avec un tag dédié - pourquoi est-ce important*" par CartONG
   ou "*Outil de croquis cartographiques OpenStreetMap - L'avenir des
   documents de terrain OpenStreetMap*" par l'Institut de géographie de
   l'Université de Heidelberg
 * Et bien d'autres encore !

Au plaisir de vous retrouver à distance en novembre !

L'équipe CartONG

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[HOT] Recrutement/Job offer - Data specialist

[Martin Noblecourt]

[English version below]

Bonjour à tous,

Je me permets exceptionnellement de faire passer cette offre d'emploi 
sur ces listes car je pense qu'elle est susceptible de vous intéresser.


CartONG, l'ONG spécialisée en cartographie et gestion de l'information 
pour l'humanitaire et le développement, recherche un spécialiste des 
données à son siège de Chambéry (France) : 
https://www.cartong.org/fr/sp%C3%A9cialiste-de-bases-de-donn%C3%A9es-hf


Le poste s'adresse à des personnes expérimentées et polyvalentes à la 
recherche de challenges techniques, de variété dans les activités et de 
déploiements courts sur le terrain. Il comprend une forte composante sur 
les outils libres et notamment OpenStreetMap, puisque nous travaillons 
avec plusieurs partenaires sur la communication entre OSM et leurs bases 
de données métier. Ce sujet nous paraît très prometteur et important 
pour l'avenir d'OSM, nous cherchons donc une personne ayant à la fois un 
bon niveau technique et une compréhension de l'écosystème OSM pour 
travailler dans le respect de la culture du projet.


N'hésitez donc pas à postuler ou à transmettre cette offre à des 
personnes qui pourraient être intéressées ! A noter que le recrutement 
est au siège uniquement, le poste n'est pas ouvert au télétravail.


Bien à tous,



Hello everyone,

I exceptionally allow myself to post this job offer on these lists 
because I think it is likely to be of interest to you.


CartONG, the NGO specialized in mapping and information management for 
humanitarian and development projects, is looking for a data specialist 
at its headquarters in Chambéry (France): 
https://www.cartong.org/fr/sp%C3%A9cialiste-de-bases-de-donn%C3%A9es-hf 
(the offer is in French only since the position requires to speak this 
language anyway)


The position is intended for experienced and versatile people looking 
for technical challenges, variety in activities and short field 
deployments. It includes a strong component on free tools and in 
particular OpenStreetMap, since we work with several partners on 
communication between OSM and their own databases. This topic seems to 
us very promising and important for the future of OSM, so we are looking 
for a person with both a good technical level and an understanding of 
the OSM ecosystem to work in a way that respects the project's culture.


Do not hesitate to apply or forward this offer to people who might be 
interested! Please note that recruitment is at headquarters only, the 
position is not open to remote working.


All the best,

--
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<http://www.cartong.org>


Martin Noblecourt

Missing Maps project manager

Email: m_nobleco...@cartong.org <mailto:m_nobleco...@cartong.org> | 
Skype: martin.noblecourt

Phone: +33 (0)4 79 26 28 82 | Mobile: +33 (0)6 04 09 74 19

Address:Chambéry, France - Lat: 45°34'50''N | Lon: 5°55'13''E

Découvrez notre projet associatif ! 
<https://cartong.org/fr/news/cartong-projet-associatif-2019>
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[HOT] Invitation - GeOnG 2018, October 29-31, the Humanitarian Data Forum

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear HOT community members,

I’m reaching out to you regarding the 6th edition of the GeOnG forum 
that will take place in 3 weeks, from *October **29**th**to 31**st**in 
Chambéry**, France*! (1h from Geneva, 3 from Paris or Milano...)


Organized by CartONG <http://cartong.org/>, the GeOnG addresses the use 
of data in the humanitarian & development sectors, including topics 
related to mapping & GIS, mobile data collection, information 
management, and more generally the use of new technologies by 
humanitarian organizations - as you can see in our 2018 GeOnG teaser 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcIleghdpHQ=8s>. It’s one of the 
biggest independent forum on the topic in Europe, with an average of 140 
participants from 70 organizations in the last two editions.


This year’s theme is: *“Perfection” versus “Good Enough” in Information 
Management: Adjusting to context, scale, phase, and funding*. We have 
planned together with several members of the HOT/OSM ecosystem many 
sessions that would be very relevant for you I think; including:


 * A panel discussion on "Machine Learning & AI on satellite imagery
   for mapping" (much linked with the discussion started by Nate a few
   weeks ago )
 * A panel discussion on "What business model for digital commons in
   the humanitarian sector?" with several project examples inc. the
   Tasking Manager
 * A workshop ran by Gaurav from the Kathmandu Living Lab on "Maps with
   and for the beneficiaries"
 * A workshop by the team from University of Heidelberg on advanced use
   of OSM data
 * But also many more sessions & trainings on data protection, coding
   on Git, basic & advanced GIS, data collection, webmapping, etc.

You can register to the GeOnG directly on our website 
<http://cartong.org/geong/2018/registration>, and also find there the 
practical information 
<http://cartong.org/geong/2018/practical-information> to plan your trip 
to Chambéry, a provisional agenda <http://cartong.org/geong/2018/agenda> 
that we will update as sessions get confirmed, a snapshot of 
participating organizations 
<http://cartong.org/geong/2018/participants>, and last but not least 
thelist of our sponsors <http://cartong.org/geong/2018/partnerships> 
that make the event possible. Please notice that our budget doesn't 
allow us to cover the travel or more than a handful of speakers so we 
won't be able to offer an open scholarship system, sorry!


We would be very happy to have you as part of our event! If you have any 
questions, feel free to contact me.


We’re looking forward to seeing you in our French Alps. Thank you for 
your time and attention!


--
CartONG- Humanitarian mapping and information management 
<http://www.cartong.org>


Martin Noblecourt

Missing Maps project manager

Email: m_nobleco...@cartong.org <mailto:m_nobleco...@cartong.org> | 
Skype: martin.noblecourt

Phone: +33 (0)4 79 26 28 82 | Mobile: +33 (0)6 04 09 74 19

Address:Chambéry, France - Lat: 45°34'50''N | Lon: 5°55'13''E

GeOnG 2018 - The humanitarian data forum - 29-30-31 October Chambéry, France

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Re: [HOT] Updates to the HOT Tasking Manager

[Martin Noblecourt]

Hi Blake,

Nice updates, especially the 1. that will be a game changer for heavy 
mappers.


Thanks a lot to all the developers!

Martin


On 26/06/2018 14:00, hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 02:29:22 +0200
From: "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM"
To: HOT
Subject: [HOT] Updates to the HOT Tasking Manager
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hi Everyone,

We recently updated the HOT Tasking Manager, some of the major new
changes include:

1. The ability to opt-out of automated Validation messages:)
Long requested, you can now visit your User Profile page, click the
"Edit/Add Contact Details" button and you will have the option to
"Receive automated validation messages" if you uncheck this, you will
not receive any of the automated emails or messages to your Tasking
Manager inbox when someone validates one of your tasks. You will still
receive any message where someone specifically mentions your username
with @yourusername.

2. A link to Pascal Neis' OSM Heatmap to see where you have mapped
This is also on your user profile page.

3. iD Editor "Do not edit outside of this box" messages along the
outsides of your purple Task outline have been removed.
This was causing serious issues with the edge tasks on projects, as
well as custom task shapes. You now only have one message in the
middle of the purple task outline in the iD editor.

4. Several changes to the deployment scripts that users will never
see, but are critically important to our workflow for pushing out
updates. Now that these are working better, it will be easier for us
to push updates more often.

We have more fixes and improvements queued up and are ready to start
making more frequent updates. If you have submitted a PR that has not
been merged yet, please stick with us, we will get it merged in very
soon or provide feedback if changes are needed. As always everyone is
encouraged to visit GitHub and review the outstanding issues and
comment on them or create a new one for an issue or improvement you
would like to see, and if you want to contribute code, we are doing
our best to make that quick and easy.
https://github.com/hotosm/tasking-manager/issues

Our sincere thanks goes out to everyone who contributed over the past
few months, especially all of the Outreachy folks who really helped us
as part of their application process. Contributors to the current
release include:

Asish Abraham Joseph aaj013
Fienny Angelina fiennyangeln
Ethan Nelson ethan-nelson
Sunidhi Raheja sunidhiraheja
Dakota Benjamin dakotabenjamin
Seth Fitzsimmons mojodna
Linda Alblas LindaAlblas
Iain Hunter hunt3ri
Nate Smith smit1678
Blake Girardot bgirardot

Cheers,
blake




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Re: [HOT] mapping mines

[Martin Noblecourt]

Hi Joost,

The Belgian NGO IPIS has done a lot of work on mapping mines & resources 
linked with conflicts, in DRC in particular.


I think they are interested by OSM (Alexandre was at the HOT summit in 
Brussels) but I'm not sure how much they're using OSM already.


If you'd like I'd be happy to connect you. But since it's you asking, 
I'm wondering if they're not the organization you're referring to 
already! ;-)


Best

Martin


On 21/02/2018 13:00, hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 07:41:07 +0100 From: joost schouppe 
<joost.schou...@gmail.com> To: Russell Deffner 
<russell.deff...@hotosm.org> Cc: HOT <hot@openstreetmap.org> Subject: 
Re: [HOT] mapping mines Message-ID: 
<CAO2_g7+JNa98z4H2W8WiRimqoKpbsRknRbUgxKOQ-OJk=w1...@mail.gmail.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sorry for that lack of 
clarity! They are working on the impacts of industrial scale (usually 
foreign owned) resource mining on local communities. The basic tagging 
is there, but tags like tailings (apparently that's a word especially 
meant for mine waste) are undocumented and we had a hard time finding 
a proper tag for end of cycle operations (we used a lifecycle prefix 
for now, but that doesn't seem entirely fitting) Op 21 feb. 2018 3:02 
a.m. schreef <russell.deff...@hotosm.org>:

Hi Joost,



Do you mean mines, like landmines, or mining for gold kind of mine?  I
know CartONG where doing de-mining (landmine kind) Mapswipe projects if
that’s the kind you’re talking.  Don’t know of anyone mapping mining
operations for resources kind of mining.



=Russ



*From:* joost schouppe [mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:41 AM
*To:* HOT<hot@openstreetmap.org>
*Subject:* [HOT] mapping mines



Hi,



I was just in contact with an organisation that might be interested in
mapping mines in the South in OSM, particularly in conflict areas. Are
there any exisiting efforts I should be aware of?

We were a bit frustrated by the lack of depth of the (documented) tagging,
it would be interesting to get some experts on the subject to look at how
we can improve this.



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Twitter<https://twitter.com/joostjakob>  | LinkedIn
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Martin Noblecourt

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Email: m_nobleco...@cartong.org <mailto:m_nobleco...@cartong.org>
Phone: +33 (0)4 79 26 28 82
Mobile: +33 (0)6 04 09 74 19
Skype: martin.noblecourt

Humanitarian mapping and information management

Website: cartong.org <http://cartong.org/> | Twitter: @assocCartONG 
<https://twitter.com/assocCartONG> | Address: Chambéry, France


Lon: 05°55'24'' | Lat: 45°30'20''



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Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

[Martin Noblecourt]

Hi,

Agree with Blake this would probably be the thing that would save the 
most time among all the possible tools to develop.


We don't have tech volunteers that know well the ID system but fully 
support the initiative ;-)


Martin




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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 16:52:35 +0100
From: "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM"
To:"hot@openstreetmap.org"  
Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hi,

A lot of this would be addressed if iD had a building mapping tool
like JOSM does. I am going to restart the effort to get that added in
to iD, I have some new ideas for how we might be able to accomplish
it. I think it would save literally hundreds of hours volunteer time
fixing buildings that are mapped by new mappers and help new mappers
increase their productivity and accuracy.

iD is by far the more approachable editor for OSM, it runs on any
desktop or laptop with zero installation issues and has a great
built-in tutorial, so I think we would be well served by helping
improve iD.

If there are any JS wizards out there who want to help complete the
building tool for iD (it is already started, just not completed)
please contact me directly:)

Cheers,
Blake


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[HOT] Mapping of Diffa and N'guigmi (Niger) for ICRC

[Martin Noblecourt]

Congratulations Samaila, this sounds like a great training.

For those interested in mapping Niger, CartONG is currently supporting 
OSM-Ne in mapping the city of Diffa and N'guigmi. The data will be used 
by the International Committee of the Red Cross for water & sanitation 
projects.


You can support us on 3 projects :

 * https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3777 to map the new neighborhoods
   of Diffa with a recent imagery => this project is OK for beginners
 * https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3802 to update the city of N'guigmi
   thanks to a recent imagery given by ICRC => for intermediate
   mappers, it is both updating existing mapping & adding the many new
   buildings appeared since the last mapping campaign. Be careful with
   the offset ;-)
 * https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3397#bottom complete validation of
   the city of Diffa with a new imagery, still ongoing => for more
   advanced mappers since it requires a lot of precise updating of
   existing data.

You're welcome to work on one of these projects during a mapathon, ping 
us if you want us to introduce the project. Thanks a lot for your 
contribution!


Best regards.

Martin


On 11/11/2017 13:00, hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:

Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:00:05 +0100
From: Samaila Alio<ilasolt...@gmail.com>
To:hot@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [HOT] Camp of training in Dosso, Niger
Message-ID:
<CAAint83rmLyDOEc+rbSq2_=0HLBeEnLD=onr1pgtyuk--tf...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi all,

OSM Niger is moving to Dosso, Niger to conduct a training and awareness
camp on digital cartography (OSM), free geomatics and open data (opendata)
from 10 to 12 November 2017 in the Regional Direction of the environment.
The beneficiaries of this training are the agents  of the environment
department, the students from the University of dosso.
The program of this camp is defined on a day of creation of geographic data
data via JOSM, ID editor, field data collection via GPS terminals,
smartphones (OsmAnd, OSMtracker) and field papers.
The 2nd day will be devoted to the export of data and their reuse via QGIS,
uMap, MapContrib
The third and final day will be dedicated to the creation of mass data
through a Mapathon on the Diffa Region for contribution to OSMGéoWeek.



​Best regard​s,


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Martin Noblecourt

Missing Maps project manager

Email: m_nobleco...@cartong.org <mailto:m_nobleco...@cartong.org>
Phone: +33 (0)4 79 26 28 82
Mobile: +33 (0)6 04 09 74 19
Skype: martin.noblecourt

Humanitarian mapping and information management

Website: cartong.org <http://cartong.org/> | Twitter: @assocCartONG 
<https://twitter.com/assocCartONG> | Address: Chambéry, France


Lon: 05°55'24'' | Lat: 45°30'20''

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Re: [HOT] Making some updates to the Tasking Manager today

[Martin Noblecourt]

Hi Blake,

I must say then as many long time users I have been a bit annoyed by 
some of the bugs of the new TM. However, I wanted to give a huge thanks 
to the team for fixing so fast the biggest issues that we have pushed to 
you.


I think we'll really get over time the benefits of this transition, but 
the reactivity of the dev team (and ability to get more developer 
involved) is already a huge bonus.


Thanks again to all!

Martin


On 05/11/2017 13:00, hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:

From: Blake Girardot
To:"hot@openstreetmap.org"  
Subject: Re: [HOT] Making some updates to the Tasking Manager today
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Greetings,

This has been completed.

There are a lot of small improvements both to the front end and back
end, a complete list can be found in GitHub, but below is a list of
more significant changes.

Add helper function to update mapper levels
Include Bing imagery on maps
Several small fixes to UI display
Show number of active mappers on a project
Include updated imagery sources for other environments
Handle changed OSM usernames
Improve validation and welcome email text
Let project managers see archived/draft projects in search
Add support for HTTPS and switch to HTTPS on main Tasking Manager
Fix projects showing 100% before they are completely done
Bring back the task outline GPX download

A hearty thank you to the following folks who contributed code directly:

Pierre Giraud
Ethan Nelson
Harry Wood
Joseph Reeves
Alekno
Michael Heißmeier
Iain Hunter
Nate Smith
David Neudorfer

And to everyone who has helped by raising issues and commenting on
issues. More fixes and improvements to come!

Respectfully,
blake


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[HOT] Imagery offset / Décalage d'imagerie

[Martin Noblecourt]

(en Français ci-dessous)

Dear all,

Following an exchange on the HOT-francophone list, we realized we're 
heading towards possible edition issue with the multiplication of 
quality imagery available (in particular with the newly released DG 
one). We'll increasingly have situation were beginning mappers will open 
their editor, and find an offset between the data (created on Bing) and 
the imagery we recommend (DG or custom).


We discussed at the HOT summit what we could address that, we haven't 
found a solution but identified a few leads:


1. There is a Crowdsourced Offset plugin database in JOSM. However this
   is not accessible to ID & not installed by default. Possible
   solutions: a) install in the original JOSM, and edit the "offset
   warning" already existing to mention if a crowdsourced offset has
   already been entered for the area and b) include a similar feature
   in ID (probably more complex)?
2. With the multiplication of imagery, it would be useful to increase
   the metadata: a) include automatically the date of the imagery
   together with the source in the changeset comment (should be
   possible for Bing, for DG unsure the date can be extracted) and b)
   include it in the objects mapped themselves, more easy to track than
   the changeset (but that might be heavy on the database/slowing the
   editor...)
3. Another quick fix would be to set up offset for different imagery
   from the TM to ID/JOSM (this way the TM project manager can set up
   the offset for the various imageries to use himself), this feature
   is not included in the current version of the TM and is not yet
   planned in the new one, but maybe could be added later? To be 100%
   accurate it would also need to allow several offset for one provider
   if there are different images within the project (probably an
   overkill though)
4. The francophone list started a discussion either on created field
   reference control point (GPS): they already exist in several
   countries but are not always open. a) Trying to open this data when
   existing might be feasible and b) creating from scratch such a
   network when non existing is probably out of scope for the OSM
   community alone. I might have missed some points of the discussion
   on HOT-franco here, feel free to complete.

I am personally not capable to really contribute to the topic (too 
technical for me) but I think this is an important topic and I would be 
super grateful if more skilled users could contribute to it ;-)


Best

Martin



(en Français ci-dessous)

Bonjour à tous,

Faisant suite à un échange démarré sur cette liste, nous avons réalisé 
que nous nous dirigions vers de possibles conflits d'éditions du fait de 
la multiplication d'images satellites de qualité disponibles pour OSM 
(notamment après la publication de la nouvelle imagerie DG). Nous aurons 
de plus en plus fréquemment des cas de contributeurs débutants ouvrant 
leur éditeur, et trouvant un décalage entre la donnée (créée sur Bing) 
et l'imagerie que nous recommandons dans le TM (DG ou personnalisée).


Nous avons discuté rapidement au HOT summit de comment résoudre ce 
problème, nous n'avons pas trouvé de solution mais identifié plusieurs 
pistes :


1. Il existe un plugin Offset à partir d'une base de donnée générée par
   les contributeurs dans JOSM. Cependant celui-ci n'est pas disponible
   pour ID et pas installé par défaut. Solutions possibles : a) inclure
   le plugin nativement dans JOSM, et changer le message
   d'avertissement sur le décalage potentiel qui existe déjà pour y
   mentionner si un décalage a déjà été renseigné par un contributeur
   pour la zone et b) inclure un outil similaire dans ID (sans doute
   plus complexe) ?
2. Avec la multiplication de l'imagerie, il serait utile de renforcer
   les métadonnées pour a) inclure automatiquement la date de
   l'imagerie avec la source dans le commentaire de changeset (cela
   devrait être faisable sur Bing, pour DG nous sommes moins sûrs que
   la date puisse être extraite) et b) inclure ces métadonnées dans les
   objets cartographiés eux-mêmes, ce qui les rend plus facilement à
   repérer que si dans les changeset (mais cela risque d'être lourd
   dans la base de données/lent pour l'éditer...)
3. Une autre solution simple serait de pouvoir régler le décalage des
   différents fournisseurs d'imagerie depuis le TM vers ID/JOSM (de
   cette façon les project manager du TM pourraient régler manuellement
   le décalage eux-mêmes). Cette fonctionnalité n'est pas inclue dans
   la version actuelle du TM et n'est pas prévue dans le prochain, mais
   pourrais être proposée pour une future version ? Pour être 100%
   précis il faudrait même permettre différents décalages de la même
   imagerie en fonction de la zone du projet (puisque le décalage peut
   varier), mais cela risque d'être excessivement complexe à mettre en
   place
4. J'ai essayé de 

Re: [HOT] Chequerboard Pattern

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear all,

Just to complete what Ralph said, my colleague who routinely produce 
maps from OSM data doesn't consider this a priority issue, they just 
ignore the forest landuse data when preparing their map then (although 
as cartographer, they would of course enjoy have more data to make their 
maps pretty!). The consistency and quality of the road network mapping 
is a much more important challenge (avoid unconnected roads, road 
network on border of projects not necessarily connected to the overall 
grid, etc.).


So: don't worry, keep mapping ;-)

Martin


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Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 16:17:00 +0100
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Hi kretzer, Russ, Eric, Harry,

I always find it encouraging that others are noting that areas have been mapped 
for humanitarian purposes. If it had not been mapped like this there would have 
been no mapping there at all (or very limited) and none of you would have been 
commenting about any of it.

My first reaction to this is to say A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO 
GAVE THEIR TIME TO HELP WITH THE TASKING MANAGER PROJECTS AND THE MAPPING THAT 
YOU ARE DOING IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

I too would like to see OpenStreetMap mapped perfectly but, as any cartographer 
will tell you, you first have to get the basic infrastructure mapped before you 
can concentrate on the other details and unfortunately some projects do not get 
completed resulting in missing squares . or has been run through Mapswipe 
first and those squares are not needed by the teams on the ground who are, or 
will be, conducting the humanitarian intervention.

It does create work for us because we see those very obvious differences, but 
bear in mind that while it is very visual on the rendered OpenStreetMap and 
therefore worrying, mapping forests is not a high priority in basic 
infrastructure and I would rather see roads, rivers, communities and 
agriculture put on the map first and leave the rest of the detail to local 
mappers who are better placed to confirm that information. After all some of 
the imagery is between two to six years old and drought, logging and seasonal 
changes may have altered the landscape since then.

If forestry is your area of interest or expertise then I for one welcome your 
efforts to add clarity to the map by checking through and fixing up the 
forestry. I would also welcome those who’s interest is in residential areas to 
take a look at improving some of those areas that have been previously mapped 
for humanitarian purposes as they too have some errors built in.

And thank you for noting the errors and showing that level of concern for the 
accuracy of OpenStreetMap, I for one do appreciate that.

Please keep mapping, all of you.

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Re: [HOT] New project around refugee crises in northern Uganda, (South Sudan) and Istanbul (Syria)

[Martin Noblecourt]

Interesting!

Nice to see that the crisis mapping we do for MSF  in the camp (built on 
HOT's community) is followed quickly by complementary mapping on the 
communities surrounding it. Great example of OSM as an inclusive tool 
for all stages of a disaster...


Best

Martin


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 17:23:14 +0100
From: Paul Uithol
To: HOT
Subject: [HOT] New project around refugee crises in northern Uganda
(South Sudan) and Istanbul (Syria)
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Hi all,

I'd like to let you know about a new project HOT has started work on,
focusing on improving open data quality, dissemination and service
delivery around two of the largest refugee crises at the moment - South
Sudanese refugees settling in northern Uganda, and Syrian refugees
living in Istanbul, Turkey.

More information and background on this project, and first visits to
both areas, is at
https://hotosm.org/updates/2017-02-06_kicking_off_the_%E2%80%9Ccrowdsourcing_non_camp_refugee_data%E2%80%9D_project.
Please let me know if you have any questions, suggestions, or other
information you think could be of use!

best,
Paul






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Re: [HOT] HOT microgrants - Proposition d'aide à la traduction / Oferta de apoyo en traducción

[Martin Noblecourt]

[This message aims at offering support for translation of the 
applications, in French & Spanish]


Bonjour à tous,

Comme indiqué par Rebecca, HOT a lancé un programme de 
micro-financements pour soutenir les communautés locales OSM, notamment 
pour l'achat de matériel, de connexion internet ou le coût des 
formations. Les financements seront autour de 2000 à 5000 $ pour des 
groupes situés notamment en Afrique et aux Caraïbes, vous avez jusqu'au 
17 mars pour candidater.


Si vous souhaitez candidater mais avez besoin d'aide pour traduire votre 
candidature en anglais, n'hésitez pas à me contacter, les bénévoles de 
CartONG vous donneront un coup de main !


A bientôt et bonne chance à ceux qui candidateront !



Hola a todos,

Come lo indicó Rebecca, HOT ha empezado un programa de micro-donaciones 
para apoyar las comunidades locales OSM, particularmente para comprar 
herramientas, acceso a Internet o organización de talleres. Cada 
proyecto puede recibir 2000 a 5000 $, y Latinoamérica es una de las 
regiones identificadas como prioritaria. Se puede aplicar hasta el 17 de 
Marzo.


Si ustedes necesitan apoyo para traducir su candidatura en inglés, favor 
de ponerse en contacto conmigo, nuestros voluntarios les pueden ayudar.


¡Hasta luego y suerte por los que aplicarán!


Martin Noblecourt

CartONG


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 15:25:29 +
From: Rebecca Firth<rebecca.fi...@hotosm.org>
To: hot<hot@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: [HOT] Apply for a Microgrant to grow your OSM Community!
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi All,



We're excited to launch the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Microgrants
programme
<https://hotosm.org/updates/2016-12-06_funds_for_community_led_projects_the_2017_hot_microgrants_program>
!



Many OSM communities around the world are achieving amazing results on zero
or near-zero budgets. HOT wants to support the development of these
communities, through providing funding for basics. For example, GPS
devices, internet access, and training costs. We're looking to provide up
to ten Microgrants between $2,000 - $5,000 USD. Our goal is to enable the
development of local OSM communities, to increase skills, capacity and
experience. We will award grants to projects which broadly contribute to
HOT's mission.



More details on the programme and the application form can be found here
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s9ltOxx_0jkJdQW1uqv9oXoF8cV9ryK8TH87Vv4de4M/edit>.
HOT support will be provided before, during and after the grants period.
Applications must be received by *12th March 2017*.



Please share this to individuals or organisations who might be interested
to apply. We are looking to support communities in Southeast Asia, South
Asia, Latin America/Caribbean and Africa, but will consider other locations.



Get in touch with any questions, or emailmicrogra...@hotosm.org.


Thanks,


Rebecca


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[HOT] Mapathon au Open Government Partnership - 8 décembre 2016, Paris

[Martin Noblecourt]

/[English version below]/

Bonjour à tous,

Dans le cadre de l'Open Government Partnership summit 
<https://en.ogpsummit.org/osem/conference/ogp-summit> organisé à Paris 
la semaine prochaine, CartONG, HOT et OpenStreetMap France, en 
partenariat avec Missing Maps et Etalab (pour l'instant !) organise un 
mapathon pour rassembler les contributeurs OSM & faire découvrir la 
cartographie aux participants du sommet.


Ce side-event aura lieu au Liberté Living Lab mardi 8 décembre à partir 
de 18h30. Nous travaillerons sur un projet lancé par CartONG en 
collaboration avec une association locale de coopération entre la France 
et le Burkina Faso <http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2333> : 
Chambéry-Ouahigouya. Le projet vise à cartographier Ouahigouya pour que 
la commune burkinabé puisse mieux gérer son territoire. Une 2e tâche 
pour validateurs aura lieu sur un projet relativement similaire avec la 
ville de Dianguirdé au Mali, en collaboration avec Ivry-sur-Seine 
<http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2215#>.


Nous souhaitons profiter de la présence de représentants de nombreux 
membres des différentes communautés OSM pour les mettre en valeurs : 
tous ceux qui seront présents et souhaiteraient apparaître comme 
co-organisateurs sont les bienvenus, prévenez moi juste par retour de 
mail et envoyez moi votre logo (pour ne pas faire déborder l'affiche 
nous incluerons uniquement les communautés représentées physiquement au 
mapathon, désolé !). Cela s'adresse tout particulièrement aux 
communautés des pays que nous allons cartographier (Mali et Burkina) ;-)


Les inscriptions ont lieu ici (tous les contributeurs OSM expérimentés 
qui pourront aider sont invités à s'inscrire comme "organisateurs") : 
https://www.eventbrite.fr/e/billets-mapathon-openstreetmap-paris-decembre-2016-lll-29743343140


Merci au Liberté Living Lab pour l'accueil, et à MapBox qui nous offre 
généreusement les pizzas !


Merci de partager largement cette invitation ! Les participants à la 
conférence sont également invités à la session Leveraging the Citizen 
Open Mapping Movement organisée par Heather le même jour à 13h15 : 
http://bit.ly/ogp_openmapping2016




Dear all,

As part of the Open Government Partnership summit 
<https://en.ogpsummit.org/osem/conference/ogp-summit> organized in Paris 
next week, CartONG, HOT and OpenStreetMap France, in partnership with 
Missing Maps and Etalab (French open data agency) (list to be 
completed...) will organize a mapathon to gather the OSM contributors 
and introduce mapping to the conference's participants.


This side-event will be organized at Liberté Living Lab on Tuesday, 
December 8th at 6.30PM. We will work on a project started by CartONG in 
collaboration with a local NGO working in the French-Burkina Faso 
cooperation <http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2333>: Chambéry-Ouahigouya. 
The project aims at mapping the city of Ouahigouya so that the burkinabé 
city can have a better overview of its territory. A second task for 
validators will run on a relatively similar project with the city of 
Dianguirdé in Mali, in partnership with the French city of 
Ivry-sur-Seine <http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2215#>.


We also want to use the presence of many contributors from various OSM 
communities to highlight their diversity: all those coming and willing 
to be featured as co-organizers, just ping me by email and forward me 
your logo (I don't want to overcrowd the poster so we'll only include 
the communities with a member physically present at the mapathon, sorry!).


Registrations are open here (all experimented mappers that can be 
helpers are invited to register as "organizers"): 
https://www.eventbrite.fr/e/billets-mapathon-openstreetmap-paris-decembre-2016-lll-29743343140


Thanks to the Liberté Living Lab for hosting us, and to MapBox for 
generously offering us pizzas!


Thanks for sharing ! Participants to the conference are also invited to 
the Leveraging the Citizen Open Mapping Movement session organized by 
Heather on the same day at 1.15PM: http://bit.ly/ogp_openmapping2016


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Email: m_nobleco...@cartong.org
Phone: +33 (0)4 79 26 28 82
Mobile: +33 (0)6 04 09 74 19
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Humanitarian mapping and information management

Website: cartong.org <http://cartong.org/> | Twitter: @assocCartONG 
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Re: [HOT] OSM humanitarian mapping and its learning curve

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear all,

This is obviously a key topic that have been around, actually way before 
I was there in the OSM community ;-)


I completely agree with Séverin's warning and the comments from 
subsequent speakers.


To me we already have elements of the solution:

1. As expressed by John & Mikel, improving the TM can certainly help. I
   also suggested recently to split clearly the beginners projects from
   the rest on the homepage (and only make the advanced one visible by
   opening a menu/clicking a button, that would already prevent quite a
   few beginners access them I think). That implies also a clearer
   documentation/research on what is a beginner/medium/advanced tasks,
   based on emergency situation, features, imagery...
2. As a quick fix, some basic phrasing/warnings on the tasks could also
   be improved/increased. E.g. are we sure all new mappers go to the
   "Instructions" tab? Else a sentence in bold in tab one "Make sure to
   read instructions tab" could already help?
3. As expressed by Séverin & Heather, tweaking the TM will not do all
   and training will remain paramount. EOF is a great example of
   focusing on training a few quality mappers (particularly for African
   countries contexts), I think Missing Maps' repeated mapathons
   (specially in London) are also a good example and maybe more adapted
   to Western countries contexts. This is also why we focus mostly on
   non-disaster settings with MM, except with contributors with some
   experience.
4. Regular mapathons/in-depths training are the only way to train
   validators, a resource we are short on. As discussed regularly with
   the Missing Maps members, we also lack incentive/recognition for
   validators, this should be taken into account in the new TM.

I'll conclude by seconding Pete that the overall quality of data of OSM 
is mostly deemed as good by the humanitarians users we are & see - as 
expressed via the feedback from NGOs to contributors we're trying to 
develop.


So thanks to the whole community and let's continue improving.

Best

Martin



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 16:57:40 -0400
From: Dale Kunce 
To: Romain Bousson 
Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" 
Subject: Re: [HOT] OSM humanitarian mapping and its learning curve
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Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic, tutorial?

[Martin Noblecourt]

Hi John,

We also have similar tutorial in French (I know, not very helpful here, 
would it be relevant to translate it?):


http://blog.cartong.org/2014/07/24/tuto-digitaliser-sous-openstreetmap-avec-le-tasking-manager-et-josm-premiers-pas/ 



Else the video Blake sent is the best we have I think.

Best

Martin


Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 06:47:42 +0200
From: Blake Girardot
To: john whelan
Cc:"hot@openstreetmap.org"  
Subject: Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic
tutorial?
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi John,

Far from perfect, but I believe the "JOSM for iD Users" youtube vids
covers most of that (might need one on imagery use in JOSM, hopefully
it comes across though):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL54o5PaKgnbKU-vXe11cSmmsxIYnL5oDU

Feedback from your friend welcome.

Regards,
Blake

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan  wrote:

>So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin, how
>to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How to
>select Bing imagery.
>
>How to toggle the screen ie use the tab key when you lose the stuff on the
>right.
>
>And finally how to upload.  So setting the token.
>
>Yes I know about learnOSM but I have a fairly keen mapper who has been told
>that JOSM is too complex which is fine except I have to clean up after them
>with the crossing ways and highways nearly meeting when they are quite
>capable of doing it themselves and I want something basic not how to map a
>relationship because that is not what most of the HOT stuff is.
>
>Thanks John
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[HOT] Time to register! - GeOnG conference, October 17-19th, France

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear HOT community members,

It was great to meet many of you at the HOT summit & SOTM in Brussels! 
I'm contacting you today to offer you a nice follow-up event at the 5th 
GeOnG conference, on October 17th to 19th in Chambéry (France, 1h from 
Geneva).
GeOnG is the biggest independent conference on humanitarian mapping & 
information management in Europe, and it is a unique opportunity to meet 
an audience of professionals and experts on the topic (140 participants 
from 60 organizations in 2014). We host a large panel of GIS & IM 
specialists from lots of NGOs and UN agencies (confirmed for this year 
MSF, UNHCR, OCHA, ICRC, AFD, Solidarités Int., Handicap Int., Terre des 
Hommes, American Red Cross, Medair, ACAPS, Humanitarian OSM Team, iMMAP, 
MapAction, etc.) so it is a great opportunity for you to better 
understand how humanitarians use your data, and how to improve 
collaboration.


We chose for this year the grand topic “lessons from the past, shaping 
the future”, around the role of new technologies (GIS, GPS, mobiles 
solutions, remote sensing, drones…) in today’s and tomorrow’s 
humanitarian interventions. We are planning a mix of panel discussions 
on several key topics concerning these evolutions (big data, citizen 
science, crowdsourcing, UAVs, new assessment tools, etc.), hands-on 
workshops on key technological tools, both novelties and classics 
(PowerBI, KoBo Analyzer, D3.js, QGIS, OSM exports, OpenLayers, R, etc.), 
plus the “speed geeking” (speed dating of projects) and lightning talks.


The complete provisional agenda is published on our website: 
http://cartong.org/geong/2016/agenda


If you would like to present during the conference, there is still a 
bit of room, either by joining an existing panel or suggesting a short 
format: please get in touch quickly then! We are also considering a 
poster exposition, please let us know if that would be of interest to 
you.


Finally, 2016 is a special year for us at CartONG, as it is our 10th 
anniversary, which give us an opportunity to celebrate it with our 
partners and friends during GeOnG, with an exclusive party on the 17th, 
and a public Missing Maps mapathon on the 18th!


Please take your ticket as soon as possible, it will help us plan the 
logistics of the event: http://cartong.org/geong/2016/registrations


We hope to see you in October in the Alps!

All the best.


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Email: m_nobleco...@cartong.org
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Mobile: +33 (0)6 04 09 74 19
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Website: cartong.org | Twitter: @assocCartONG | Address: Chambéry, 
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[HOT] Invitation: GeOnG 2016 - October 17-19, Chambéry, France

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear HOT community members,

I hope this message finds you well. As you might have already heard, 
CartONG, the French NGO dedicated to the use of mapping and information 
management for humanitarian purposes, is hosting for the fifth time the 
GeOnG, Europe’s biggest independent conference on Geographic Information 
services to the Humanitarian and Development sector. This year’s edition 
is going to take place in the French city of *Chambéry* (1h from 
Geneva), on *October 17^th to 19^th *.


Having its first edition in 2008, we have succeeded to gather every 2 
years professionals and experts in the field to discuss the use of 
technology in relief and development interventions. In 2014 we managed 
to reunite *70 organizations and more than 140 people*. GeOnG includes a 
series of activities, ranging from plenary sessions, roundtable 
discussions, workshops and solution’s exhibits.


This year’s grand topic is *“lessons from the past, shaping the 
future”*.**We aim to tackle the role of new technologies (GIS, GPS, 
mobiles solutions, remote sensing, drones…)in today’s and tomorrow’s 
humanitarian interventions; our definite agenda is still under work.


Humanitarian OpenStreetMap is of course one of the biggest changes that 
have irrupted over the past few years and we'll be delighted to host our 
friend from the OSM community during the event. We're welcoming 
propositions of presentations (please send them before end of August) as 
well as suggestions of topics you'd like to see covered or technical 
tools you'd like the see presented.


Among the other topics we plan to discuss this year: who to provide the 
future assessments of the humanitarian sector? what integration of 
analysis tools in MDC solutions? a feedback on the drones in 
humanitarian; technical local communities, a new partner for 
humanitarian organizations? Coordinated Data Scramble: optimizing 
available data. And a few tools we plan to have demonstration on 
advanced OSM exports, coding XLSforms, using API data in DC.js 
dashboards, and many more!


Furthermore, CartONG is celebrating this year its *10^th anniversary*, 
which give us an opportunity to celebrate with our partners and 
attendees, in particular with a *Missing Maps mapathons*.


For a more in-depth insight, check our website http://cartong.org/geong/2016

You can already register on http://www.cartong.org/geong/2016/inscriptions


We look forward to see you in October!

Best Regards,


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Martin Noblecourt

Email: m_nobleco...@cartong.org <mailto:m_nobleco...@cartong.org>
Phone: +33 (0)4 79 26 28 82
Mobile: +33 (0)6 04 09 74 19
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Lon: 05°55'24'' | Lat: 45°30'20''

cart*ong*
Humanitarian mapping and information management

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Twitter: @assocCartONG <https://twitter.com/assocCartONG>
Address: 180 rue du Genevois, Chambéry, France

GeOnG 2016 - The Humanitarian Forum for Geographic Information - 
17th-18th-19th of October - Chambéry, France 
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Re: [HOT] Reports about actual use of the results of HOT efforts

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear Peter,

This is a reoccurring question, there was a thread about it less than 
one month ago in this list: 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2016-June/011992.html


Several resources are listed in that thread (inc. the case study by 
Médecins Sans Frontières' GIS Unit on Ebola which is probably one of the 
most consistent one: 
http://cartong.org/news/update-msf-case-study-gis-ebola-response), 
although more could certainly be added (and to my knowledge no 
academic-level synthesis exists).


Several NGOs are trying to improve the feedback towards the HOT 
community, in particular the members of the Missing Maps project, 
however this requires time which is why it is not always done perfectly.


Thanks & best regards.

Martin



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Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 09:12:35 +0200
From: Peter Gervai
To:hot@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [HOT] Reports about actual use of the results of HOT efforts
Message-ID:

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Hello HOT!

I decided to bring this over from
https://github.com/hotosm/hotosm-website/issues/65
and
https://github.com/hotosm/hotosm-website/issues/84#issuecomment-217356627
(both closed, btw) since I have realised this may be of a wider interest.

The original request was about the problem that while there are plenty of
showcases about the_results_  of the various HOT maps there are
almost none - or if there is they are very hard to find - about how these
mapping results were_used_  on the field out there.

Actual reports from the people who received the output of HOT:
- who are they exactly, where are they from, how are they organised,
how did they contact HOT?
- how did they use the data or the maps, what methods, equipment?
- what did they exactly used it for, what did they do with it?
- what parts of the map/data was the most helpful for them, how and why?
- what was not usable for them, what parts were not needed by them?
- what would they liked to have which was missing?
- if it's possible to say how much did the HOT results helped their
efforts? was it a little help? was it the most important help in their
work?
- what did they dislike in the results? were there dangerously
unreliable, misrepresented, otherwise problematic areas? were the
"white western people" able to map what's out there or were they
misunderstood what they saw on the imagery? I would like to know the
problems, too.

Maybe there are such reports, then I would be very glad if you people
would point me to them. (I would then forward it to the webite team to
include it on the main website, too.)

If there are not much of those, which I suspect, I would propose a simple thing:


HOT (community) give map and data to organisations, organisations give
reports of actual usage to HOT (community).
This should be the only thing we would kindly, but firmly ask for it in return.


As I wrote in the linked ticket above: "there is a big difference
between asking me to help creating a map somewhere just because the
area isn't covered (like when I was mapping rivers in Siberia, vast
lands with not a single node around, but nobody really care or use it,
it's just for fun) or because there are actual people requiring this
actual result to do actual work."

Apart from that, I would like to know whether my efforts are really
useful (apart from the "good to have" maps), there are actual people
who ask this very question from me and expecting answers, and I only
have general answers with lots of "really useful" and "it's helping
the people there", but hardly any hard facts or actual description of
what really was the effect of the HOT efforts.

Thank you,
Peter Gervai
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[HOT] Mapathon tomorrow in Paris - invitation + notification for validators

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear all,

Following the discussion on this list we've realized we need to 
communicate more on the mapathons we organize.


So for those who haven't seen it yet, I'm re-inviting you, the Paris 
Missing Maps mapathon will be tomorrow at 7PM (9PM UTC) at the Mozilla 
Foundation : 
https://www.eventbrite.fr/e/billets-mapathon-missing-maps-paris-07042016-mozilla-23797515008


We will work mainly on projects 1695 
, 1432 
 and 1566 
, so people willing to validate 
live during the mapathon will be more than welcome! We will also 
organize a "validation table" to train volunteers on it, if you are 
interested either to come (if possible) or to advise on Skype/Mumble 
that will be much appreciated, please get in touch with me.


Thanks and best regards.

Martin for the Missing Maps France community
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Re: [HOT] Request to those organising a maperthon. -, validation support

[Martin Noblecourt]

Hi,

I actually like your last idea Blake!
I understand how it can be frustrating for validators like John to see loads of 
new mappers do errors on some projects, we're trying to do our best in capacity 
building when running mapathons but mistakes are always possible.
The closest we can put the validator to the new mapper is the best in my opinion: ideally in the same room 
(which is why we target to get validators during mapathons), or else simultaneously (or almost) if the 
validators are not there... so a way to identify the "main" validators for a task would indeed be 
interesting. Maybe I'm putting the cart before the wheels but having a way for people to "register" 
as validator to a project could be interesting for the projects managers? (and then a button "send a 
message to all validators" on which we can notify of upcoming mapathons :-) )

Finally, let's not forget that mapathons are not only a great way to bring new 
contributors but also to create awareness on OSM amongst people that are not 
familiar with it, including NGO workers and local communities, so it ultimately 
servers the purpose of the HOT community of bringing data to the people needing 
it :-)

Best regards.

Martin


Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 17:33:10 +0200
From: Blake Girardot
To: Mike Thompson, john whelan

Cc:"hot@openstreetmap.org"  
Subject: Re: [HOT] Request to those organising a maperthon. -
validation support
Message-ID:<56fe94b6.2040...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


Hi,

We do have an unused "validation" email group that was created with the
idea that people who were available and interested in doing validations
could share ideas, questions, tips, etc

And people who were running mapathons could easily notify people who
liked to do validation that they were running a mapathon and could use
some validation help during that time (not all mapathons need additional
validators)

I am happy to dust it off and make it easy to join and send
notifications too and make anyone who is interested a manager of the
email group.

It does not quite address Mike's question as to how to know someone(s)
are active and committed to validations on a particular project. But it
could help with that if people who were doing validations for a project
sent a notice to the group with an informative subject line like
"Project 1234 has validators dedicated to it"

Another option for Mike's question is for people who are making an
effort to validate a project contacted the project creator and put a
note in a box at the bottom of the instructions or description that said
something like "This project has active validators, please send a notice
to the validators list if you would like a review of your mapping for an
event or individually"

Anyway, kind of over complicated I know, but some ideas.

cheers
blake


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Re: [HOT] Issue with Harare project - 1649

[Martin Noblecourt]

>
> P.S. Martin,
>
> The Activation WG does not handle 'edit conflicts' or really
any conflicts as we have plenty of those internally for
coordinating HOT stuff.  You also started with 'Dear OSM
community' - just to clarify - this list is the 'HOT
community'; to address the larger/general OSM community you
would want to email t...@openstreetmap.org
<mailto:t...@openstreetmap.org> - and if you do need
'intervention' with another mapper, that's the OSMF Data WG
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group)
>
> Happy Mapping! (let me know if you need help
'resetting'/invalidating all tiles in 1649)
> =Russ
>
> Russell Deffner
> russell.deff...@hotosm.org <mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org>
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)
> http://hotosm.org <http://hotosm.org/>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russell Deffner [mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org
<mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org>]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:04 AM
> To: 'Martin Noblecourt'; 'hot@openstreetmap.org
<mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org>'
> Subject: RE: [HOT] Issue with Harare project - 1649
>
> Hi, Just a quick note - you can now 'invalidate all tiles'
from the misc tab as a Project Manager; so no need to re-create.
>
> Also this user http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/rab -
although they have a long OSM history, I wouldn't call them
    'expert' as they still don't use changeset comments correctly
after 8 years :)
>
> =Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Noblecourt [mailto:m_nobleco...@cartong.org
<mailto:m_nobleco...@cartong.org>]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:51 AM
> To: hot@openstreetmap.org <mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [HOT] Issue with Harare project - 1649
>
> Dear OSM community,
>
> I'd like to get your feedback about what happened on the
following
> project: http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1649
>
> This project have been marked as completely done by one
single mapper
> without tracing, under the argument new mappers would damage
existing
> data. The area is indeed already well mapped but also a lot
of data is
> still missing (including rivers, roads and buildings) and it
is pretty
> easy to trace so I doubt the project will damage the area
(unless
> contribution to OSM is now reserved to "experts").
> Another argument we received was that some of our previous
Missing maps
> projects (such as 1465/1466) were a "complete quality
disaster"...
> Although still unfinished and requiring an important work of
validation
> (like all TM projects...), we strongly disagree that these
projects were
> a disaster: they allowed mapping large areas that weren't mapped
> previously at all - which is in fact the goal of Missing Maps...
> The road network in particular still requires work of
> standardization/clean up, but this is quite common on TM
activities too
> (getting mappers, whether they are new ones or experienced
but not used
> to the African context, to properly tag roads, is a long-term
> challenge). Starting from scratch mapping of an area is as
everyone know
> a work that often requires several steps.
>
> We intend to recreate the same project on the TM as it will
be a waste
> of time to invalidate all the tiles again, please let us
know if you
> don't think it is the appropriate way.
> Feedback are of course most welcome on the tasks created by
Missing
> maps, we have in fact already had very interesting
conversation with
> great validators and will be happy to hear from more people
as long as
> it is respectful of everyone :-)
> (I someone thinks this message should to be forwarded to the
Activation
> working group too, please do so since I'm not on it)
>
> Thanks for your feedback,
>
> Martin & Violaine for the CartONG team
>
>
>
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[HOT] Issue with Harare project - 1649

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear OSM community,

I'd like to get your feedback about what happened on the following 
project: http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1649


This project have been marked as completely done by one single mapper 
without tracing, under the argument new mappers would damage existing 
data. The area is indeed already well mapped but also a lot of data is 
still missing (including rivers, roads and buildings) and it is pretty 
easy to trace so I doubt the project will damage the area (unless 
contribution to OSM is now reserved to "experts").
Another argument we received was that some of our previous Missing maps 
projects (such as 1465/1466) were a "complete quality disaster"... 
Although still unfinished and requiring an important work of validation 
(like all TM projects...), we strongly disagree that these projects were 
a disaster: they allowed mapping large areas that weren't mapped 
previously at all - which is in fact the goal of Missing Maps...
The road network in particular still requires work of 
standardization/clean up, but this is quite common on TM activities too 
(getting mappers, whether they are new ones or experienced but not used 
to the African context, to properly tag roads, is a long-term 
challenge). Starting from scratch mapping of an area is as everyone know 
a work that often requires several steps.


We intend to recreate the same project on the TM as it will be a waste 
of time to invalidate all the tiles again, please let us know if you 
don't think it is the appropriate way.
Feedback are of course most welcome on the tasks created by Missing 
maps, we have in fact already had very interesting conversation with 
great validators and will be happy to hear from more people as long as 
it is respectful of everyone :-)
(I someone thinks this message should to be forwarded to the Activation 
working group too, please do so since I'm not on it)


Thanks for your feedback,

Martin & Violaine for the CartONG team



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[HOT] Lake Malawi missing in standard layer

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear all,

I've been notified by a colleague that Lake Malawi 
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2631184> is not visible on 
various in the standard OSM layer at most levels, e.g. 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/-12.0433/34.4572 and 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/-12.1122/34.4418

(and also on some others, but not in the HOT one...)
We've tried to identify the cause of the bug in vain, can an expert OSM 
user help us? We are using webmapping tools around the area so it will 
become quite annoying.


Thanks a lot!

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Re: [HOT] Projects on the HOT OSM Tasking Manager - lots of them

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear all,

This is an interesting topic, I think what is important is to focus on 
how the data will be useful for responders & communities on the ground.
On some requests (particularly for humanitarian operations), what we 
really need is to obtain a first overview of an area (villages & roads) 
fast. I've sometimes tried to put the focus on it using the instructions 
(e.g. the projects 1343 <http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1343> or 1262 
<http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1262>), however on both tasks I saw new 
mappers spending a lot of time tracing buildings whereas it wasn't 
necessary (yet), and (sometimes very) experienced mappers unvalidating 
tiles because a track was missing on a corner of a task. Although the 
latter were right to do so in absolute, in both case it wasn't really 
helping the task being completed faster (since lots of new mapper then 
spend time working again and again on the same task to get it perfect).


My question is: how can we better highlight when a project is a "first 
pass" for which it is admissible to miss a few details in order for the 
project to be completed faster? And an additional one: on some projects 
part of the area to cover doesn't have imagery good enough to trace, 
could it be useful to add a button to specify that (different than 
marking it done & leaving it unmarked) to avoid several people looking 
at it again and again?


Thanks & best regards.

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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 20:28:50 +0100
From: Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com>
To: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: [HOT] Projects on the HOT OSM Tasking Manager - lots of them
Message-ID: <56633af2.60...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi everyone,

Dale, among others have been working to update and review all the
current projects on HOT's main OSM Tasking Manager:

http://tasks.hotosm.org/

After much work on their part, a lot of projects have shifted up in the
list.

If you have not had a chance to visit the tasking manager lately, it
would be a great time to do so as there are a lot of new mapping
projects and existing projects that need mapping.

We really need more regular mappers as we get more and more requests for
HOT mapping. HOT and OSM's value is being recognized by more and more
humanitarian organizations and we are very challenged to keep up with
the requests we get. Any amount of time you can donate to mapping is
very helpful.

Tweeting and Facebooking out the MapGive "Why Map?" video would also
make a huge impact. They have easy to click twitter and facebook links
on their why map page:

http://mapgive.state.gov/why-map/

And there are links to the learn to map videos they make as well.

And of course, while you are tweeting and sharing about HOT, please help
spread the word about our first ever direct fundraising effort:

https://donate.hotosm.org/

Cheers,
Blake



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Re: [HOT] Missing Maps Training Video Suggestions

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear all,

I also added a few comments, there are some really great ideas there.

However in the meantime, the MapGive videos are already a great 
resource. One of our volunteers have started to translate the transcript 
of the video Learn How to Map in OpenStreetMap in French. Do you know 
who we should get in touch with to have it integrated as subtitles on 
the video (it's already in Italian so it must be possible) ? And if it'd 
be possible to get the subtitle file in English, to facilitate the timing?


Thanks  best regards.

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Re: [HOT] HOT Summit panel / talk proposal

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear Pete,

I completely agree with you; and although I'm not sure we'll be able to 
attend the summit, I'll be very interested to see the outcomes of such a 
discussion.


We've been organizing small monthly virtual mapping parties for 
French-speakers for a few months, and although the attendance is not 
huge, it seems very appreciated by new contributors who can directly ask 
their questions while they're mapping. It is also a way of making 
mapping more fun - although less than an actual mapping party of course 
- and is much easier to organize when you don't have a permanent place 
to host people. (which is often the case I guess except when large NGOs 
support the process)


Best regards.

Martin

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:13:19 +
From: Pete Masterspedrito1...@googlemail.com
To:hot@openstreetmap.org  hot@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [HOT] HOT Summit panel / talk proposal
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi all,

I'd like to propose a talk or panel for the HOT Summit on the subject of
large scale, virtual mapathons.

The way the HOT community responds in waves following a crisis, or a
request from an NGO, is incredible. Truly impressive.

The Missing Maps project obviously benefits from this capacity and
commitment and many of you have contributed to Missing Maps tasks.

Missing Maps has had considerable success in bringing new people into HOT
via the tasking manager at mapathons. We think that, at the London Missing
Mapathons alone, we have had over 500 people attending and contributing and
the vast majority of these are new to HOT. At a physical event, we are able
to train and support these new mappers in order to try and maintain high
quality data.

This is great, but we are faced with the problem of scaling this model of
participation. In London, we can't find venues big enough to cope with
demand (last month, 80 places were booked in less than three hours) and we
do not have the capacity within MSF, the British Red Cross and the local
HOT community to significantly increase the number of mapathons we host.

There are more and more Missing Maps events happening independently of
(although supported by) the organisations involved, which is hugely
welcome.

But, the fact remains that there is appetite for involvement from many more
places than there are mapathons. One of the potential ways to feed this
appetite (and by extension, expand the capacity of HOT) is to organise
regular, large scale remote mapathons, with training, context, tasking and
support built in.

I would love to explore this possibility with you guys and thought the
summit might be a good place to start the conversation. Is anyone up for
joining me in presenting this idea for discussion?

I am not sure yet whether a panel, a talk or a workshop is the most
appropriate and I don't claim to be an expert (although I would love to
share our London experiences with you), so it would be great to collaborate
on this.

If anyone is interested, please drop me a line.

Cheers,

Pete



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Re: [HOT] GeOnG 2014 - September 22-23, Chambéry

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear HOT community,

We have already got in touch with several of you (hence HOT's presence 
on the agenda), but I wanted to also extend the invitation to the *GeOnG 
conference *to the whole community. This is the *Forum of Geographic 
Information for Relief and Development* we hold every two year since 
2008. This year's theme is *Turning data into actionable knowledge*, 
we will focus on how data is collected, analyzed and shared in order to 
make it relevant for decision makers. The conference will be held next 
*September 22^nd -23^rd * at the Congress Centre Le Manège, in 
*Chambéry* (France, 1hr from Geneva).


Last edition saw almost 130 participants from 60 different organizations 
come to the conference, and many major organizations (including UNHCR, 
OCHA, MSF, MDM, ACF, CNES, MapAction, British Red Cross, ACAPS, etc.) 
have already confirmed for this year 
http://www.cartong.org/geong/2014/participants.


We are still working on the agenda 
(http://cartong.org/geong/2014/agenda) but we can already give you an 
insight on the sessions we are planning:


 * Our introductory *keynote speaker*, *Dr. Philippe Calain *from
   Médecins Sans Frontières-CH, will discuss ethical challenges
   regarding data management.
 * A *plenary session *with executive speakers will tackle this year's
   theme.
 * *Round tables *will look at specific topics and practical issues.
   These include: epidemiology data, crowdsourcing  volunteers, access
   to satellite imagery/products, innovative data sharing, maintaining
   indicators over time, integrated systems, data for donors, etc.
 * *Training workshops*, which are a key feature of GeOnG, will be an
   opportunity to discover and learn more about innovative tools as
   well as data management essentials such as ArcGIS, QGIS, ODK 2.0,
   Excel forms, designing multi-actors surveys, CartoDB, GeosJON, how
   to use OSM data, R, HXL, dataviz tools, etc.
 * We are introducing this year the *speed geeking*, a session that
   will allow project managers to present their ideas to small group of
   interested participants (a bit like speed dating), and thus have
   high-quality feedback and inputs.

OpenStreetMap will be eminently present throughout the conference, with 
HOT members present, a rountable on crowdsourcing featuring several 
projects (like the Lubumbashi project conducted with MSF-UK Jorieke will 
present) and several workshops on OSM tools. Participatory mapping and 
open data will be key topics of the conference, and we'd be glad to have 
many HOT members bringing their insights and experiences to the conference!


If you wish to join us and take a part in the discussion, you can 
register on our website: http://cartong.org/geong/2014/inscriptions

You still have *9 **days to benefit from the reduced Early birds rates*!

In the meantime, feel free to disseminate this invitation to your 
colleagues and network.


All the team hope to see you next September 22^nd -23^rd in Chambéry!

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Message: 6 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:31:29 +0200 From: Jorieke Vyncke 
jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com To: Rod Bera r...@goarem.org Cc: 
hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] geOng 
2014 Message-ID: 
CAEO7yf6-BdD7pBwPa1X6dFCcuwP6h7T3T03kC=F85r=7bxc...@mail.gmail.com 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Rod, I will be there. Are 
you coming too? It would be nice to meet you, and others! Best, Jorieke 
2014-08-21 10:24 GMT+02:00 Rod Bera r...@goarem.org:



Hi all,

We're part of the menu at the geOng 2014 (see
http://www.cartong.org/geong/2014/agenda, roundtable 2)

Who's attending on HOT's behalf?

Rod


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[HOT] Registrations opened for NOMAD Workshop: Linking Humanitarian Organizations with Mobile Data Collection Tool Providers, 15th-17th May, Paris!

[Martin Noblecourt]

Dear HOT members,

You're well aware that mobile data technology is changing the way 
charities and aid agencies help out people affected by conflict, hunger 
and natural disasters, and we want to invite you to a unique opportunity 
to learn more about latest development of mobile data collection.


/Join us at the NOMAD workshop on May 15th to 17th, 2013; at the French 
Space Agency (CNES) headquarter in Paris, France! /


The event will start by NOMAD's presentation on the current challenges 
of mobile data collection for the humanitarian sector. Then, Wednesday 
afternoon will be dedicated to a solution fair where you will be able to 
walk around, meet and greet the different solution providers and gain a 
first overview of the different tools presented.


On Thursday and Friday, mobile data collection solution providers will 
conduct hands-on demonstrations in small groups and answer all your 
questions. Always wanted to hear more about a specific solution and test 
it out before deciding which one might be best for your organisation and 
situation? At the end of the workshop, after trying and testing various 
data collection tools, we promise that you and your organization will be 
able to select and decide on the best tool for your survey.


The package of the event also includes a workshop bag with a pen drive 
with the event's information pre-loaded on it, breakfast on Thursday and 
Friday, coffee break on Wednesday afternoon, Thursday and Friday, and a 
set-price dinner on Thursday evening (beverages are additional, except 
water).



*To participate in this event please pre-register here:**
**http://humanitarian-nomad.org/workshop-2013/ *
The prices are listed on the webpage as well. The spaces are limited, 
and will be capped at 150; therefore it is advisable to register early.



Any organizational questions regarding participation in the Paris 
workshop, please contact me (m_nobleco...@cartong.org). And feel free to 
forward this invitation to anyone you think might be interested by it.


If your organization would like to give a short presentation on your 
experiences with Mobile Data Collection Tools, get in touch, if there is 
enough interest, a session on exchanging experiences can be organized as 
well. The agenda will be published in due course.


/We all at NOMAD look forward to seeing you at the Paris workshop in May 
for a stimulating series of productive and collaborative discussions./


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coordinator  admin assistant

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