RE: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-07 Thread charlie arehart
Subject: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question You really are missing the point here. They used to come out and basically "sell" a product and upcoming new versions of it. They stopped doing that for whatever reasons they had. They stopped doing that around the same time

Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-07 Thread Aaron Rouse
misreading you, feel free to set me straight there also. I’m just trying to > help, not stir up any trouble. > > /charlie > > > > *From:* houcfug@googlegroups.com [mailto:houcfug@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Aaron Rouse > *Sent:* Monday, August 7, 2017 06:36 AM >

RE: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-07 Thread charlie arehart
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question Well Oracle and Microsoft certainly take the time to come out and meet us still, I guess we are not an "average customer" to them. Adobe used to do this, at least once a year with us if not more often than that, good

Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-07 Thread Aaron Rouse
gt; Behalf Of *Aaron Rouse > *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 06:13 PM > *To:* houcfug@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question > > > > Three sides to everything and usually some mesh of all three is the real > story. > > > > That is a very

Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-04 Thread Gary McNeel
o ColdFusion… > > > > *From:* houcfug@googlegroups.com [mailto:houcfug@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Aaron Rouse > *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 6:13 PM > > *To:* houcfug@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question > > > > Three sid

RE: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-04 Thread james.thomas
09 AM To: houcfug@googlegroups.com<mailto:houcfug@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question I wonder how they judge an adoption percentage. Since 2012 due to a couple of things(mainly us mothballing old Windows operating systems but also some internal changes that re

RE: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-03 Thread charlie arehart
] On Behalf Of Aaron Rouse Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 06:13 PM To: houcfug@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question Three sides to everything and usually some mesh of all three is the real story. That is a very surprising number, 8000, but probably surprising to me

Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-03 Thread Aaron Rouse
a couple > more thoughts those. As always, just trying to help, in broadening the > discussion. Especially since some people are indeed making critical > business decisions based on such discussions. > > /charlie > > > > *From:* houcfug@googlegroups.com [mailto:houcf

RE: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-03 Thread charlie arehart
: houcfug@googlegroups.com [mailto:houcfug@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Cravens Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 12:50 PM To: houcfug@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question I remember a few years ago at the Internet Retailers Conference (mostly e-commerce focused

RE: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-03 Thread charlie arehart
ct: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question I wonder how they judge an adoption percentage. Since 2012 due to a couple of things(mainly us mothballing old Windows operating systems but also some internal changes that require us to go to newer versions of Java and in turn CF more times than

Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-03 Thread Gary McNeel
to persuade all listeners that “any thinking person” should. >>> >>> There are indeed more affirming points, like the Adobe CF Summit >>> conference in Nov which grows in size each year. But there are surely >>> plenty of challenges. I’m just saying it’s not as bad as man

Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-03 Thread John M Bliss
dressed that, pointing to resources >> offering hundreds of them (still today), in a recent post: >> >> http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/3/11/FInd >> ing-ColdFusion-Jobs >> >> >> >> /charlie >> >> >> >>

Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-03 Thread Aaron Rouse
reds of them (still today), in a recent post: > > http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/3/11/ > FInding-ColdFusion-Jobs > > > > /charlie > > > > *From:* houcfug@googlegroups.com [mailto:houcfug@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Gary McNeel > *Sent:* Wednesday,

RE: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-02 Thread charlie arehart
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Cravens Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 04:04 PM To: houcfug@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question Charlie has been doing this for years: https://www.meetup.com/coldfusionmeetup/ A small local group's advantage is proximity

RE: [houcfug] ColdFusion DEAD Question

2017-08-02 Thread james.thomas
: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question Plus then everyone can enjoy a beer (or three) with the CFUG meeting and not have to worry about Ubering home! :-) On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 4:53 PM, <james.tho...@bakerbotts.com<mailto:james.tho...@bakerbotts.com>> wrote: That’s what

RE: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-02 Thread Ken Auenson, II
t just like you would if everyone met in person. *From:* houcfug@googlegroups.com [mailto:houcfug@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *John M Bliss *Sent:* Wednesday, August 2, 2017 3:16 PM *To:* houcfug@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question Sure! Come on over!

Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-02 Thread John M Bliss
*John M Bliss > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 2, 2017 3:16 PM > *To:* houcfug@googlegroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question > > > > Sure! Come on over! > > > > I live in Fort Myers and my "local" CFUG is http://www.cfug-sfl.org which >

RE: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-02 Thread james.thomas
@googlegroups.com [mailto:houcfug@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John M Bliss Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 3:16 PM To: houcfug@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question Sure! Come on over! I live in Fort Myers and my "local" CFUG is http://www.cfug-sfl.org which use

Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-02 Thread Gary McNeel
gt;>> >>> BTW, as for the jobs issue I addressed that, pointing to resources >>> offering hundreds of them (still today), in a recent post: >>> >>> http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/3/11/FInd >>> ing-ColdFusion-Jobs >>> >>> &

Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-02 Thread Billy Cravens
ust saying it’s not as bad as many/most seem to >> want to make it out to be. >> >> BTW, as for the jobs issue I addressed that, pointing to resources >> offering hundreds of them (still today), in a recent post: >> >> http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cf

RE: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-02 Thread charlie arehart
: houcfug@googlegroups.com [mailto:houcfug@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary McNeel Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 05:40 AM To: Houston ColdFusion Users' Group <houcfug@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question Yes, that is what I see. I guess, as a non-ha

Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-01 Thread Gary McNeel
Yes, I am not knocking it. I have just been out of using CF for about 10+ years so have not kept abreast of the changes. I do remember when CF was pretty robust and there was a lot of tech related forum activity. I was a bit stunned when I looked for help with things on Google and all the posts

Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-01 Thread John M Bliss
Check out https://cfdevweek.meetus.adobeevents.com/ happening this week. Lots of great info. Short answer: CF has 400+ jobs on Indeed. Dead is in the eye of the beholder. I've been a very well-paid, primarily CF developer since 1996. I'm also a DBA, sysadmin, data analyst, and I'm getting my MBA.

RE: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question

2017-08-01 Thread Steve Parks
Not sure about Adobe’s plan. Definitely small market share but it always has been. Still lots of big companies using it, but the job market is low. I still get lots of CF projects, so I’ve stuck with it. Btw, they’ve been asking is CF dead since ASP Classic was popular. lol From: