Re: [IAEP] Revision 50 of the Sugar Labs Fundraising Committe notes

[Dave Crossland]

On 19 July 2016 at 00:24, Sebastian Silva  wrote:

> Donations will be recognized separately.


Except the appear not to be,  per https://www.debian.org/donations#donors
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Re: [IAEP] Revision 50 of the Sugar Labs Fundraising Committe notes

[Sebastian Silva]

El 18/07/16 a las 22:56, Dave Crossland escribió:
> I think the way the FSF and Debian handle sponsorship is good.
Sure.
>
> The FSF shows Google, IBM and HP logos on https://www.fsf.org/patrons
"The FSF does not endorse the activities of its patrons."
>
> Debian shows HP logo on https://www.debian.org/partners/
Debian partners are not donors.

" Donations to the Debian project do not qualify an organization for
Partner status. Donations will be recognized separately."

"How and when do partnerships end? <...>
the goals of the partners no longer coincide with the goals of Debian"

https://www.debian.org/partners/partners
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Re: [IAEP] Revision 50 of the Sugar Labs Fundraising Committe notes

[Dave Crossland]

On 18 July 2016 at 23:15, Sebastian Silva  wrote:

> El 18/07/16 a las 19:55, Laura Vargas escribió:
> > How does Google resonate with SL values more than Microsoft?
> They should mean the same really. I see nothing wrong with accepting
> their funds.
>
> That doesn't mean that we endorse technology that doesn't respect a
> user's rights.
>
> In fact - producers of such technology should help offset the evil they
> do by actively supporting Free (Libre) Software. Kind of how polluters
> offset their carbon footprint by buying carbon bonds (for funding
> reforestation/conservation).
>

I think the way the FSF and Debian handle sponsorship is good.

If MS gave SL money, and asked for its logo on the website in a similar
way, would anyone object?

The FSF shows Google, IBM and HP logos on https://www.fsf.org/patrons

Debian shows HP logo on https://www.debian.org/partners/

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Re: [IAEP] Revision 50 of the Sugar Labs Fundraising Committe notes

[Sebastian Silva]

El 18/07/16 a las 19:55, Laura Vargas escribió:
> How does Google resonate with SL values more than Microsoft? 
They should mean the same really. I see nothing wrong with accepting
their funds.

That doesn't mean that we endorse technology that doesn't respect a
user's rights.

In fact - producers of such technology should help offset the evil they
do by actively supporting Free (Libre) Software. Kind of how polluters
offset their carbon footprint by buying carbon bonds (for funding
reforestation/conservation).

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Re: [IAEP] Revision 50 of the Sugar Labs Fundraising Committe notes

[Dave Crossland]

On 18 July 2016 at 20:55, Laura Vargas  wrote:

> "Google’s mission is to organize the world’s information and make it
> universally accessible and useful."
>
> This can be done with 100% free/libre software: no conflict with SL active
> members values.
>

Microsoft's mission: "Our mission is to empower every person and every
organization on the planet to achieve more."

This can be done with 100% free/libre software: no conflict with SL active
members values.

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Re: [IAEP] Revision 50 of the Sugar Labs Fundraising Committe notes

[Laura Vargas]

Hi Dave,

"Google’s mission is to organize the world’s information and make it
universally accessible and useful."

This can be done with 100% free/libre software: no conflict with SL active
members values.

Regards,
Laura V

2016-07-16 10:56 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland :

>
> Hi Laura
>
> I'd like to follow up on this thread :)
>
> On 15 July 2016 at 23:39, Laura Vargas  wrote:
>
>> - Microsoft (laura -1: No private software funds shall get into our
>> accounts!) (dave +1: money is money, and almost all the funding sources
>> are private companies; the Nadella Microsoft is very different to the
>> Gates/Ballmer era and is about as ethical as Google, Facebook, Intel, or
>> IBM :) (Laura: don't apply, the requirement from grants providers to
>> resonate SL values is not negotiable as it stands for the whole learning
>> model we are proposing.) (Sean -1: No point adding Microsoft or Bill &
>> Melinda Gates Foundation to this list.) (Dave: You assert your own
>> values as "SL values", but the observable behaviour of SL and OLPC is not
>> consistent with them. What do you see as the difference between Google and
>> Microsoft? Why does SL take Google's money?)
>
>
> How does Google resonate with SL values more than Microsoft?
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>



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Re: [IAEP] TurtleArtDay.org domain transfer + new site

[Claudia Urrea]

Thanks, Bernie.

I authorized the transfer a few minutes ago.

Claudia

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Bernie Innocenti 
wrote:

> On 18/07/16 16:09, Claudia Urrea wrote:
> > I worked with Claudia on this and she has just sent the auth code to
> > Bernie. Thank you Claudia!
> >
> > Thank you!
>
> I started the transfer to Gandi. I gave ownership to the SFC, and put
> myself as technical contact.
>
> I'm waiting for the operation to complete. Later, we can move the DNS to
> the SL nameservers.
>
>
> > I noticed the domain needs renewal on September 24 this year, so
> > would be great to be ready for that when the finance manager is
> > appointed.
> >
> > I paid in the past and I don't mind paying for it again.
>
> No problem, I already paid for the renewal (or maybe the SFC got
> charged, it wasn't clear from the instructions :-)
>
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Re: [IAEP] TurtleArtDay.org domain transfer + new site

[Bernie Innocenti]

On 18/07/16 16:09, Claudia Urrea wrote:
> I worked with Claudia on this and she has just sent the auth code to
> Bernie. Thank you Claudia!
> 
> Thank you! 

I started the transfer to Gandi. I gave ownership to the SFC, and put
myself as technical contact.

I'm waiting for the operation to complete. Later, we can move the DNS to
the SL nameservers.


> I noticed the domain needs renewal on September 24 this year, so
> would be great to be ready for that when the finance manager is
> appointed.
> 
> I paid in the past and I don't mind paying for it again.  

No problem, I already paid for the renewal (or maybe the SFC got
charged, it wasn't clear from the instructions :-)

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Re: [IAEP] TurtleArtDay.org domain transfer + new site

[Claudia Urrea]

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> Hi
>
> On 2 July 2016 at 17:29, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 1. Claudia can follow
>> https://wiki.gandi.net/en/domains/transfer/fromgodaddy
>>
>
> I worked with Claudia on this and she has just sent the auth code to
> Bernie. Thank you Claudia!
>

Thank you!

>
> I noticed the domain needs renewal on September 24 this year, so would be
> great to be ready for that when the finance manager is appointed.
>

I paid in the past and I don't mind paying for it again.

>
>
>> 2. Bernie can follow https://wiki.gandi.net/en/domains/transfer
>>
>
> Bernie, let me know if you'd like me to carry this out for you, or Sam C,
> etc :)
>
>
>> A. I offer to port the existing website to
>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/turtleartday.org
>>
>
> I've done the content for this, and the next step is to do the CSS/JS. I
> hope to do that next weekend.
>
>
>> B. I ask Sam to set up another git hook on the sugar webserver to keep
>> that repo sync'd with the webserver
>>
>
> Sam, no need to do this before the CSS is ready, I think :)
>
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Re: [IAEP] TurtleArtDay.org domain transfer + new site

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

On 2 July 2016 at 17:29, Dave Crossland  wrote:

>
>
> 1. Claudia can follow
> https://wiki.gandi.net/en/domains/transfer/fromgodaddy
>

I worked with Claudia on this and she has just sent the auth code to
Bernie. Thank you Claudia!

I noticed the domain needs renewal on September 24 this year, so would be
great to be ready for that when the finance manager is appointed.


> 2. Bernie can follow https://wiki.gandi.net/en/domains/transfer
>

Bernie, let me know if you'd like me to carry this out for you, or Sam C,
etc :)


> A. I offer to port the existing website to
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/turtleartday.org
>

I've done the content for this, and the next step is to do the CSS/JS. I
hope to do that next weekend.


> B. I ask Sam to set up another git hook on the sugar webserver to keep
> that repo sync'd with the webserver
>

Sam, no need to do this before the CSS is ready, I think :)

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Re: [IAEP] Over a thousand xo laptop still exist in Nigeria(re-sugarlabs)

[Samson Goddy]

Yes they are all xo-1. Yeah i guess so! i will discuss it with him

From: d...@lab6.com
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:53:44 -0400
To: samsongo...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Over a thousand xo laptop still exist in
Nigeria(re-sugarlabs)
CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; ca...@media.mit.edu


Hi Samson!

On 18 July 2016 at 12:07, Samson Goddy  wrote:




As you know Sugar Labs is planing Turtle Art day in Abuja, Nigeria which the 
agenda to re sugar OS in Nigeria. I was posting about the workshop today via 
Facebook, After that i got a call from an old friend called Ubong Henry in Akwa 
-Ibom state in Nigeria. Claudia Urrea knows him well. So he told me that his 
school still has over a thousand laptops that he has been trying to be in touch 
of SL. He told me that he was talking to Sameer Verma but he got no replies. So 
he want to re-sugar OS in his community and he will like to have a meeting with 
us. I think the turtle art day is really going to pay off in Nigeria
Wow that is fantastic! Are these XO-1 machines, or another model? Would he be 
willing to join the IAEP mailing list? :) 
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Re: [IAEP] Over a thousand xo laptop still exist in Nigeria(re-sugarlabs)

[Walter Bender]

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

>
> Hi Samson!
>
> On 18 July 2016 at 12:07, Samson Goddy  wrote:
>
>>
>> As you know Sugar Labs is planing Turtle Art day in Abuja, Nigeria which
>> the agenda to re sugar OS in Nigeria. I was posting about the workshop
>> today via Facebook, After that i got a call from an old friend called Ubong
>> Henry in Akwa -Ibom state in Nigeria. Claudia Urrea knows him well. So he
>> told me that his school still has over a thousand laptops that he has been
>> trying to be in touch of SL. He told me that he was talking to Sameer Verma
>> but he got no replies. So he want to re-sugar OS in his community and he
>> will like to have a meeting with us. I think the turtle art day is really
>> going to pay off in Nigeria
>>
>
> Wow that is fantastic! Are these XO-1 machines, or another model?
>

If they are the SEED machines, then I think they'd be XO-1s.

-walter

>
> Would he be willing to join the IAEP mailing list? :)
>
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>



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Re: [IAEP] Over a thousand xo laptop still exist in Nigeria(re-sugarlabs)

[Dave Crossland]

Hi Samson!

On 18 July 2016 at 12:07, Samson Goddy  wrote:

>
> As you know Sugar Labs is planing Turtle Art day in Abuja, Nigeria which
> the agenda to re sugar OS in Nigeria. I was posting about the workshop
> today via Facebook, After that i got a call from an old friend called Ubong
> Henry in Akwa -Ibom state in Nigeria. Claudia Urrea knows him well. So he
> told me that his school still has over a thousand laptops that he has been
> trying to be in touch of SL. He told me that he was talking to Sameer Verma
> but he got no replies. So he want to re-sugar OS in his community and he
> will like to have a meeting with us. I think the turtle art day is really
> going to pay off in Nigeria
>

Wow that is fantastic! Are these XO-1 machines, or another model?

Would he be willing to join the IAEP mailing list? :)

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Journal Project View Merged

[Abhijit Patel]

On 18 July 2016 at 17:03, Walter Bender  wrote:

> Congrats. Great work Abhijit.
>
> -walter
>
Thanks Walter :)

>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:20 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just merged Abhijit's journal project view patchset.  I am happy with
>> it from both a functionality and code perspective.  I'm sure that we are
>> still to uncover some edge cases though, so bug reports are always welcome.
>>
>> But during the weeks that we have had this publicly being discussed, I
>> haven't seen many responses or other people testing/commenting on it.  I
>> encourage you to pull the sources and discuss your thoughts on it.
>>
>> I'm really excited to start using the Project view myself - and I'm hope
>> that this will help many other students and teachers get organised!  I will
>> be releasing Sugar 0.109.3 this weekend, which will most likely include the
>> changes.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sam
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Re: [IAEP] Over a thousand xo laptop still exist in Nigeria(re-sugarlabs)

[Claudia Urrea]

Ubong was one of the teachers I first worked with in Nigeria. He is
GREAT!He will do a great job… I am glad to see him involved with TA day.
Claudia
On Jul 18, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Walter Bender  wrote:
Sounds great!!
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Samson Goddy 
wrote:Hello all,
As you know Sugar Labs is planing Turtle Art day in Abuja, Nigeria which
the agenda to re sugar OS in Nigeria. I was posting about the workshop
today via Facebook, After that i got a call from an old friend called Ubong
Henry in Akwa -Ibom state in Nigeria. Claudia Urrea knows him well. So he
told me that his school still has over a thousand laptops that he has been
trying to be in touch of SL. He told me that he was talking to Sameer Verma
but he got no replies. So he want to re-sugar OS in his community and he
will like to have a meeting with us. I think the turtle art day is really
going to pay off in Nigeria


Samson Goddy


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Re: [IAEP] Over a thousand xo laptop still exist in Nigeria(re-sugarlabs)

[Walter Bender]

Sounds great!!

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Samson Goddy 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> As you know Sugar Labs is planing Turtle Art day in Abuja, Nigeria which
> the agenda to re sugar OS in Nigeria. I was posting about the workshop
> today via Facebook, After that i got a call from an old friend called Ubong
> Henry in Akwa -Ibom state in Nigeria. Claudia Urrea knows him well. So he
> told me that his school still has over a thousand laptops that he has been
> trying to be in touch of SL. He told me that he was talking to Sameer Verma
> but he got no replies. So he want to re-sugar OS in his community and he
> will like to have a meeting with us. I think the turtle art day is really
> going to pay off in Nigeria
>
>
>
> Samson Goddy
>



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[IAEP] Over a thousand xo laptop still exist in Nigeria(re-sugarlabs)

[Samson Goddy]

Hello all,
As you know Sugar Labs is planing Turtle Art day in Abuja, Nigeria which the 
agenda to re sugar OS in Nigeria. I was posting about the workshop today via 
Facebook, After that i got a call from an old friend called Ubong Henry in Akwa 
-Ibom state in Nigeria. Claudia Urrea knows him well. So he told me that his 
school still has over a thousand laptops that he has been trying to be in touch 
of SL. He told me that he was talking to Sameer Verma but he got no replies. So 
he want to re-sugar OS in his community and he will like to have a meeting with 
us. I think the turtle art day is really going to pay off in Nigeria


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Re: [IAEP] Fwd: update about samson's contract!

[Samson Goddy]

okay i see! 

From: h...@laptop.org
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:25:38 -0400
To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: [IAEP] Fwd: update about samson's contract!

From: Tony Sebro 
Date: Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: update about samson's contract!
To: Samson Goddy , iaep 
Cc: Adam Holt , Chris Leonard , 
walter bender , Laura Vargas 


  

  
  
On 07/16/2016 01:27 PM, Samson Goddy
  wrote:



  
  Then, I don't seem to understand Adam's statement
saying the contract is effective when i haven't receive any
money to start milestone 1. I was mailed by SFC to sign some
documents and i did! I was told that the contract is still
pending because of Adam signature. Also Adam what sorts of
document can i make public to the community. For me i don't know
why is the payment still pending! it is over two months now!



  

To clarify, Samson, Conservancy couldn't start the process of
issuing payment until we had an agreement in place.  You signed your
agreement on June 30; Karen Sandler counter-signed on July 7, after
which I routed the agreement to Accounting for processing.  Rest
assured that your initial payment is in the queue.  



It's my understanding that it is industry standard for organizations
and businesses to operate on a"NET-30" basis, i.e., an entity is
expected to issue payment within 30 days from the date of an
agreement and/or receipt of an invoice.  We at Conservancy strive to
be quicker than that when bandwidth allows, but given that Bradley
(who operates as our part-time bookkeeper) has to provide support
multiple member projects, we tend to operate within the industry
standard.  



Best, 

-Tony

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[IAEP] Fwd: update about samson's contract!

[Adam Holt]

From: Tony Sebro 
Date: Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: update about samson's contract!
To: Samson Goddy , iaep 
Cc: Adam Holt , Chris Leonard <
cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com>, walter bender , Laura
Vargas 

On 07/16/2016 01:27 PM, Samson Goddy wrote:

Then, I don't seem to understand Adam's statement saying the contract is
effective when i haven't receive any money to start milestone 1. I was
mailed by SFC to sign some documents and i did! I was told that the
contract is still pending because of Adam signature. Also Adam what sorts
of document can i make public to the community. For me i don't know why is
the payment still pending! it is over two months now!

To clarify, Samson, Conservancy couldn't start the process of issuing
payment until we had an agreement in place.  You signed your agreement on
June 30; Karen Sandler counter-signed on July 7, after which I routed the
agreement to Accounting for processing.  Rest assured that your initial
payment is in the queue.

It's my understanding that it is industry standard for organizations and
businesses to operate on a"NET-30" basis, i.e., an entity is expected to
issue payment within 30 days from the date of an agreement and/or receipt
of an invoice.  We at Conservancy strive to be quicker than that when
bandwidth allows, but given that Bradley (who operates as our part-time
bookkeeper) has to provide support multiple member projects, we tend to
operate within the industry standard.

Best,
-Tony

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Journal Project View Merged

[Walter Bender]

Congrats. Great work Abhijit.

-walter

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:20 AM,  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I just merged Abhijit's journal project view patchset.  I am happy with it
> from both a functionality and code perspective.  I'm sure that we are still
> to uncover some edge cases though, so bug reports are always welcome.
>
> But during the weeks that we have had this publicly being discussed, I
> haven't seen many responses or other people testing/commenting on it.  I
> encourage you to pull the sources and discuss your thoughts on it.
>
> I'm really excited to start using the Project view myself - and I'm hope
> that this will help many other students and teachers get organised!  I will
> be releasing Sugar 0.109.3 this weekend, which will most likely include the
> changes.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
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[IAEP] Journal Project View Merged

[sam]

Hi All,

I just merged Abhijit's journal project view patchset.  I am happy with 
it from both a functionality and code perspective.  I'm sure that we 
are still to uncover some edge cases though, so bug reports are always 
welcome.


But during the weeks that we have had this publicly being discussed, I 
haven't seen many responses or other people testing/commenting on it.  
I encourage you to pull the sources and discuss your thoughts on it.


I'm really excited to start using the Project view myself - and I'm 
hope that this will help many other students and teachers get 
organised!  I will be releasing Sugar 0.109.3 this weekend, which will 
most likely include the changes.


Thanks,
Sam
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