Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 22:26, Laura Vargas wrote: > +1 for a Global Sugar Summit to build our strategic plan. > > If we can't make it to MIT in October there is another interesting option > for November 2016, as in Bolivia will take place the "III Cumbre > Continental de

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 09:48, Walter Bender wrote: > Dave - Walter means how we articulate to potential donors, i.e. the >> compelling story I have mentioned. It's a marketing problem and rushing >> through a motion is not the solution - we need to be clear what our vision >>

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-06-05 23:48 GMT+08:00 Walter Bender : > > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:26 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > >> >> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> >>> On 4 June 2016 at 15:25, Walter Bender

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 16:30, Sean DALY wrote: > I developed the Sugar on a Stick strategy in 2009 Where can I read this? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 16:30, Sean DALY wrote: > We need to do a phone call or face-to-face of some type. I propose Monday at 7pm EST https://plus.google.com/events/c3qn7hksl71offj7jitkjb81aa4

Re: [IAEP] Why do you contribute to Sugar?

2016-06-05 Thread Laura Vargas
I contribute to Sugar because there are thousands of children around me who use Sugar every day and they deserve appropriate and relevant software that helps them reshape their reality to a more just, verdant and collaborative world. We are just not there yet. I believe Sugar Labs provides basic

Re: [IAEP] Why do you contribute to Sugar?

2016-06-05 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > In thread "A Better Idea..." on 5 June 2016 at 16:41, Sean DALY < > sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Perhaps trying to thrash out texts is not the best approach - maybe we >> should start with why we the volunteers are

Re: [IAEP] Translation Community Manager report

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 17:20, Chris Leonard wrote: > Most of the work I've done is not captured by this particular issue > tracker and I see no reason to do double-entry book-keeping in > multiple task trackers, so I would not look this this particular > github issue link as

[IAEP] Translation Community Manager report

2016-06-05 Thread Chris Leonard
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Sebastian Silva wrote: > Tony, > > El 05/06/16 a las 01:14, Tony Anderson escribió: > > Note: at the last meeting, the emphasis on voting on a series of motions > resulted in no report from the Translation Community Manager. > > This is

[IAEP] Why do you contribute to Sugar?

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
In thread "A Better Idea..." on 5 June 2016 at 16:41, Sean DALY < sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > Perhaps trying to thrash out texts is not the best approach - maybe we > should start with why we the volunteers are convinced about Sugar, and > think about distilling our Vision from that. > I like

Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 10:18, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > "Nickel and dimeing" members doesn't seem to be a viable option For me, neither does making up committees and talking about dedicated volunteers that do not exist :) We are so small that we do not need any committees for

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] A Better Idea...

2016-06-05 Thread Walter Bender
For the record, I looked into the X-Prize at the time and had a very different reaction to Caryl. I thought that they were a poor fit to Sugar (and after extensive conversations with several people consulting/working for X-Prize, a poor fit to my personal beliefs about pedagogy and development). I

Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-05 Thread Sean DALY
Hi Caryl I think you're saying that all SLOBs should be active fundraisers as part of the role? We could also say we "need a team of dedicated volunteers" to work on adapting Sugar Activities to curricula, on developing teacher tools, on providing support, on adding platforms, on localization,

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Sean DALY
Dave - I developed the Sugar on a Stick strategy in 2009 on the basis of great work by the developers at that time. The rise & fall of that effort can be painstakingly documented from the lists, but the most efficient way to do it is in a discussion. There were some important learnings: * Some of

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 10:12, Sameer Verma wrote: > The strategic plan for Sugarlabs, which should include Vision, Mission, > Goals, Objectives and Tasks can not only act as a roadmap (time frame 3 to > 5 years) but also then justify request for funds for said Tasks. The funds > can

[IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-05 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi Folks… "Nickel and dimeing" members doesn't seem to be a viable option. Not enough funds would be raised for all the wonderful things Dave (and many others) envision. Having an easy means for patrons to donate would be wonderful. But, the best way to raise funds for projects is probably

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 3:26 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> On 4 June 2016 at 15:25, Walter Bender wrote: >> >>> I am all for raising funds but we need to articulate the reason why

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 04:26, Sean DALY wrote: > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> On 4 June 2016 at 15:25, Walter Bender wrote: >> >>> I am all for raising funds but we need to articulate the reason why we >>>

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 99, Issue 16

2016-06-05 Thread Sebastian Silva
Tony, El 05/06/16 a las 01:14, Tony Anderson escribió: > Note: at the last meeting, the emphasis on voting on a series of motions > resulted in no report from the Translation Community Manager. This is absurd. It is the duty of the Translation Community Manager to: /"Report monthly to the Sugar

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 99, Issue 16

2016-06-05 Thread Sebastian Silva
Sorry about this one I never send private messages, I'll write on list now. :-) El 05/06/16 a las 10:31, Dave Crossland escribió: > > On 5 June 2016 at 00:14, Tony Anderson > wrote: > > Please compare the current version with the

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 99, Issue 16

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 00:14, Tony Anderson wrote: > Please compare the current version with the original proposed by Lionel > Laske or yours before the goals were separated from the Vision or the > one proposed by Laura. Do you think that there is wide-spread agreement on >

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Sean DALY
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > On 4 June 2016 at 15:25, Walter Bender wrote: > >> I am all for raising funds but we need to articulate the reason why we >> need them. >> > To pay for labour to achieve goals, such as the existing

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 99, Issue 16

2016-06-05 Thread Tony Anderson
Dave Please compare the current version with the original proposed by Lionel Laske or yours before the goals were separated from the Vision or the one proposed by Laura. Do you think that there is wide-spread agreement on the statement or that there has been no change in the past two months?