Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 April 2016 at 13:33, Sebastian Silva wrote: > > > El 06/04/16 a las 10:30, Dave Crossland escribió: > > On 6 April 2016 at 03:25, James Cameron wrote: > >> Wiki technology is a bad match for decision making bodies unless clear >> processes are used. >> > > https://www.loomio.org could be be

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Not used it, would like to :) Yep, definitely for design docs! :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-07 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 06/04/16 a las 10:30, Dave Crossland escribió: > On 6 April 2016 at 03:25, James Cameron > wrote: > > Wiki technology is a bad match for decision making bodies unless > clear processes are used. > > > https://www.loomio.org could be better than wiki + irc + em

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Chris Leonard
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Adam Holt wrote: >> >> Thanks Lionel for taking time to vote your conscience even despite others >> of us who believe we have a legal/fiduciary obligation to our biggest >> investor (Trip Advisor) and a moral du

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Laura Vargas
Hi Tony, I might not have been clear. I'm talking about giving a chance to the community members to apply for the "job". I can tell many members of the board already have a candidate in mind, still, in my humble opinion, an opportunity should be given to all community members to apply. Cheers,

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Laura The simplest answer is that is a part of the job of the TCM not the Board. Tony On 04/06/2016 11:39 PM, Laura Vargas wrote: Tony, What would be in place to explain, is why atfer the creation of the position (first motion) SLOBs are not openly requiring proposals from all community

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Lionel! On 6 April 2016 at 15:56, Lionel Laské wrote: > I'm just considering that the limited resources of SugarLabs should be > dedicated in priority to increase the community and I'm not convinced at > all that translation is the better way. At least the ratio cost to invest > (12000$/year)

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Sean DALY
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Adam Holt wrote: > Thanks Lionel for taking time to vote your conscience even despite others > of us who believe we have a legal/fiduciary obligation to our biggest > investor (Trip Advisor) and a moral duty to the world's most disconnected > children. > Lionel

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Adam Holt
On Apr 6, 2016 3:57 PM, "Lionel Laské" wrote: > > > Sorry to say that I don't add my vote to the motions: > > I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of Translation-Community Manager as described at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation-Community_Manager. > -1 > > I furth

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread James Cameron
Yes, Laura, that puzzles me too. It appears the process is being driven in reverse; (a) Sugar Labs has money, (b) Sugar Labs has a volunteer doing great work, (c) Sugar Labs acts to purchase more of the volunteer's time. Under this scenario, the board has already decided who the best person for t

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Lionel Laské
Sorry to say that I don't add my vote to the motions: I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of Translation-Community Manager as described at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation-Community_Manager. -1 I further move that Chris Leonard be named to this position effectiv

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Laura Vargas
Tony, What would be in place to explain, is why atfer the creation of the position (first motion) SLOBs are not openly requiring proposals from all community members and /or any interested party that might be adequate or experienced to execute the required functions. In my opinion public email in

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 10:44, Walter Bender wrote: > Does the traffic include deliberation of motions? :) >> > > Never intentionally. When it does happen, we try to catch the mistake, > such as Adam reminding Tony to circulate his motion publicly, > I think this is all good, then :D On 6 April 2016

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Adam Holt
Congratulations Chris Leonard, Tony Anderson & All for making this happen: unleashing translation community+infra+results along a road that will have its bumps for a reason -- so remote kids who have NO opportunities for education beyond their mother tongue can at last be taken seriously. Final vo

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 6 April 2016 at 09:42, Walter Bender wrote: > >> the traffic on the list is close to nil > > > Does the traffic include deliberation of motions? :) > Never intentionally. When it does happen, we try to catch the mistake, such as Adam

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 09:42, Walter Bender wrote: > the traffic on the list is close to nil Does the traffic include deliberation of motions? :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Sebastian Silva
I would've expected the Ombudsman to also be subscribed. El 06/04/16 a las 09:02, Adam Holt escribió: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Walter Bender > wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Sean DALY > wrote: > > as

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Adam Holt
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > >> as a former SLOB, I could say that in the past this was because some >> matters involving OLPC, or embargoed press information, or a partnership >> with a third party, required confidenti

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > as a former SLOB, I could say that in the past this was because some > matters involving OLPC, or embargoed press information, or a partnership > with a third party, required confidentiality. > > Perhaps today's SLOBs have a different point of vi