Re: [IAEP] Into the classroom.

2008-08-08 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:09 AM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Product.Check. Delivery Mechanism. Check. Customers hmmm. Last week I sent out a community outreach update in which I stated that engaging the education community was blocked until we

Re: [IAEP] Concise explanation of Constructionism from the Learning Team

2008-08-16 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inspired by Sameer's recent conversations with a pair of Montessori Kindergarden teachers. I went to talk to Cynthia Solomon of the OLPC Learning team. We got to talking about the theory of Activities and a few other

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] Concise explanation of Constructionism from the Learning Team

2008-08-16 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Seth and all, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Constructionism We are developing Constructionism as a theory of learning and education. Constructionism is based on two different senses of construction. It is

Re: [IAEP] sugar feedback

2008-09-10 Thread Bill Kerr
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Bill Kerr wrote: walter wrote in the digest: Any and all feedback is enormously valuable: please speak up A year 10 class at my school in australia is currently evaluating sugar activities using USB keys - various

[IAEP] is this useful feedback?

2008-09-26 Thread Bill Kerr
http://xo-whs.wikispaces.com/Sugar+UI is this useful feedback? flux, year 10 student australia, has been slack in recording his criticisms (tends to mouth off with a negative but informed tone) but I sat with him and wrote them down myself, insisting on a bit more detail - he's one of two

[IAEP] wolfram's mathematica

2008-09-30 Thread Bill Kerr
via rob costello wolfram's mathematica page says: *Mathematica* has been ported to the OLPC $100 laptop http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/analysis/content/MathEducationSoftware.html I can't see it on the activities page - does anyone have information about this? -- Bill Kerr http

Re: [IAEP] Fedora Live CD for Sugar

2008-10-08 Thread Bill Kerr
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Bill Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fedora live CD for sugar my impression is that it hasn't developed to the point where I should upgrade for school use, eg. missing activities

Re: [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-09 Thread Bill Kerr
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, Here's a short dialogue between myself, Ben Schwartz, Martin Dengler, and Bobby Powers on my interpretation of narrative as it might apply to a user interface designed for engaging children in the world of

Re: [IAEP] is this useful feedback?

2008-10-13 Thread Bill Kerr
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Bill Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xo-whs.wikispaces.com/Sugar+UI is this useful feedback? I think it's useful in itself, but there needs to happen quite a bit of work before

Re: [IAEP] is this useful feedback?

2008-10-13 Thread Bill Kerr
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Bill Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Bill Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http

Re: [IAEP] is this useful feedback?

2008-10-13 Thread Bill Kerr
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Bill Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Bill Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep

Re: [IAEP] Scratch license

2008-11-08 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 1:43 AM, Jonas Smedegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 10:53:05PM +1030, Bill Kerr wrote: I recently discovered, that MIT had changed the Scratch license from free to non commercial That is indeed sad

[IAEP] Scratch license

2008-11-08 Thread Bill Kerr
I recently discovered, that MIT had changed the Scratch license from free to non commercial On reading the threads about the Squeak / Etoys / Debian issues then it would appear to me that this will effect the distribution of Scratch on Sugar to Debian at least, perhaps others Tom Hoffman wrote

Re: [IAEP] Scratch license

2008-11-08 Thread Bill Kerr
I have edited my initial post on this thread and posted to the Scratch forum: http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=76772#p76772 (also forwarded a copy to mitch resnick and invited him to comment here) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project

Re: [IAEP] Announcing Fedora Sugar Spin!

2008-11-10 Thread Bill Kerr
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Sebastian Dziallas [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi everybody, I'm proud to be announce the availability of our Fedora Sugar Spin, which incorporates the Sugar Desktop Environment on a Fedora Live CD. So, what is this in specific? With this spin, you'll be able to

Re: [IAEP] Announcing Fedora Sugar Spin!

2008-11-11 Thread Bill Kerr
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Bill Kerr wrote: Problems: * not enough activities This will become better over time. Since we need to package activities for Fedora and they need to be reviewed, there can be a bit

Re: [IAEP] Scratch license

2008-11-14 Thread Bill Kerr
Scratch forum: http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=77320#p77320 From Andres Monroy-Hernandez, Scratch Team at the MIT Media Lab: There has been some discussion in the Scratch Team about this. Overall our concern is to avoid forks. In general forks are good because bring diversity but

[IAEP] chatzilla IRC

2008-11-27 Thread Bill Kerr
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:40 AM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Elsa Culler wrote: Hi, Last night at sugarcamp, we(people from the Olin college OLPC chapter) were asked to come up with a list of

Re: [IAEP] Scratch license

2008-11-30 Thread Bill Kerr
Freedom Law Center. This is exactly what they do. If you want an MIT-style license, they can help you with this too. It's ultimately up to you, but doing a license without a lawyer never works. PJ Bill Kerr wrote: Scratch forum: http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=77320

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [OLPC-SF] Not new, but needs to be addressed

2008-12-04 Thread Bill Kerr
good responses to leigh blackall's complaints by Jim Tittsler and David Leeming on this Tuvaluans on Wikieducator thread (scroll down) http://groups.google.co.nz/group/wikieducator/browse_thread/thread/410a6bb8eaf5aa66 (pointed out by Leigh himself on his blog) On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:39 AM,

[IAEP] 40 years anniversary of the dynabook

2008-12-05 Thread Bill Kerr
http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2008/12/alan-kay-after-40-years-dynabook-is-not.html I have transcribed a section of Alan Kay's recent presentation marking 40 years anniversary of the dynabook because I see it as an important contribution to ongoing discussions about the significance and prospects

Re: [IAEP] Ncomputing and freedom of the child

2008-12-12 Thread Bill Kerr
tech considerations aside part of the appeal (in india and elsewhere) would be control, the computers stay in the labs, don't go home where students can then surf for porn etc. we are in the middle of a mandatory adult internet censorship battle in australia - enormous resistance and the

[IAEP] Notes from Nepal's OLPC Deployments

2008-12-16 Thread Bill Kerr
http://blog.olenepal.org/index.php/archives/325 Notes from Nepal's OLPC Deployments I thought this was really interesting and informative ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

[IAEP] David Leeming XO training model (Nauru)

2008-12-28 Thread Bill Kerr
I think these resources are very valuable for anyone advising others about how to get started with XO deployment and teacher training. I presume similar programmes have been run in other countries but haven't seen them written up to this level of detail. David has been been working as an educator

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II

2009-01-04 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 15:18 -0500, Walter Bender wrote: (3) We need lots more Activities. While there is consensus on this point, there is not consensus on the best way to get a lot more Activities. That is, pulling a

[IAEP] foundational skills in literacy and numeracy

2009-01-04 Thread Bill Kerr
I'm cutting and pasting because the discussion became broken up. Bryan: I love constructionism but too often we focus exclusively high-level math and science and not foundational skills or art, literature, grammar, health, etc. By foundational skills I mean basic literacy and numeracy. Kids can't

[IAEP] etoys initial usability compared with scratch

2009-01-04 Thread Bill Kerr
Bryan: It takes a long time to train teachers to use Etoys who have never used a computer before. Etoys _requires_ mastery of the touchpad and that was more than we could teach in 2 weeks of training. Dragging and dropping is a non-trivial skill. I think we can train teachers familiar w/

Re: [IAEP] Thoughts on Pedagogy and supporting activity creators

2009-01-06 Thread Bill Kerr
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti marc...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Yes we need to think about whether these people are using Python, eToys, JavaScript or Flash to convert these worksheets into a

[IAEP] 4th Grade Maths wiki and blog by Greg Dek

2009-01-31 Thread Bill Kerr
http://sugarlabs.org/go/User:Gdk/4th_Grade_Maths http://gregdek.livejournal.com/45211.html I think what is missing in the approach outlined by Greg here (and in curriculum frameworks in general) is no real consideration of the deep structure of maths or of how children learn maths, the

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

2009-04-27 Thread Bill Kerr
excellent interview, well worth listening to this gave me a clearer impression of the challenges facing an xo deployment than anything else I have seen, read or heard - although much of it is nepal specific I suspect that much of it would also apply to other developing countries too excellent

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

2009-04-28 Thread Bill Kerr
I've transcribed a large portion of this interview on my blog: http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/04/olpc-nepal-project-overview.html might be handy if you don't have 60 minutes to spare On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: excellent interview, well worth

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

2009-04-28 Thread Bill Kerr
hard to argue against someone who is doing such great work in Nepal but I thought Bryan overplayed the local factors too much: 10) Open Source software critical to high quality education – education has to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the country – not

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

2009-04-29 Thread Bill Kerr
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: From: Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com 10) Open Source software critical to high quality education ? education has to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the country ? not something you can

[IAEP] maths instruction

2009-04-29 Thread Bill Kerr
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Kathy Pusztavari ka...@kathyandcalvin.com wrote: How can this principle of customizable math be applied to framework development? By showing exemplars that change as you proceed through your teaching sequence. See Designing Effective Mathematical

Re: [IAEP] educational brew

2009-05-04 Thread Bill Kerr
://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Bill Kerr http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] educational brew

2009-05-04 Thread Bill Kerr
my support for the continuation of widespread unreasonable behaviour (in the xo tradition) is based on acceptance of that reality On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: in part this is a discussion about what works in the educational marketplace and what is cutting

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] versus, not

2009-05-08 Thread Bill Kerr
I'm not sure what is meant by a big tent Why do some people want a big tent for learning theory but not a big tent which accepts both FOSS and proprietary software? Phrasing it that way is intended to encourage people to think about what sort of thing is learning and hopefully will not be

Re: [IAEP] SoaS Strawberry release debrief - iaep

2009-06-27 Thread Bill Kerr
*Some feedback: Persistent storage overlay* http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Strawberry#Windows_Users 6. Set the *Persistent Storage* slider to at least 160 MB (use more if you have a drive with more space); This confused me until I did some tests and discovered that if you don't do

Re: [IAEP] Debrief of Sugar on a Stick v1 Strawberry launch for all teams

2009-07-03 Thread Bill Kerr
Thanks for detailed and comprehensive report Sean. I hadn't understand the importance of visuals and your report explained that very clearly. btw your report doesn't contain any links - I found the gallery page http://www.sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=gallerypage=gallery but still wasn't sure

[IAEP] netbook as terminology

2009-07-03 Thread Bill Kerr
: Kids in Ethiopia don't have the internet in a nearby cloud ... And just noticed that the sugar labs home page describes the xo as a netbook: http://www.sugarlabs.org/ -- Bill Kerr http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] netbook as terminology

2009-07-03 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: When we began the project, I lobbied to call it a Children's Machine (CM) in reference both to Seymour Papert's book and as a reference to the CM series of connection machines that Danny Hillis created at Thinking

Re: [IAEP] Comments on David Kokorowski, David Pritchard and Mastering Educational SW

2009-07-03 Thread Bill Kerr
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.comwrote: From: K. K. Subramaniam subb...@gmail.com On Tuesday 30 Jun 2009 11:23:24 pm Alan Kay wrote: what is more interesting is how well certain ways of thinking work in finding strong models of phenomena compared to

[IAEP] SoaS feedback

2009-07-27 Thread Bill Kerr
to save, this will severely limit what we can do with it. Physics is by far the most popular activity in free exploration provided for the first few lessons -- Bill Kerr ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] SoaS in the classroom feedback

2009-07-29 Thread Bill Kerr
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Hi Bill, I'm excited that you are doing pilot. How old are the kids? From the blog posts it looks like you have some XOs, are you using SoaS on other computers too? thanks for the mail, Caroline one xo

[IAEP] is this a bug in the SoaS version of Calculator?

2009-07-30 Thread Bill Kerr
is this a bug in the SoaS version of Calculator? There seems to be an error in the trigonomety because tan 45 = 1.62 whether set on degrees or radians. That is correct for radians but it should change to tan 45 = 1. for degrees. On the SoaS version the degrees / radians button is found under

Re: [IAEP] SoaS in the classroom feedback

2009-07-30 Thread Bill Kerr
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Bill Kerrbillk...@gmail.com wrote: Is Internet access working out of the box? 7) Had to type about:config into Browse and muck around with proxy settings to get internet access - I

Re: [IAEP] SoaS in the classroom feedback

2009-08-02 Thread Bill Kerr
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Bill Kerrbillk...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: 1) once I have created a stick can I upgrade just one

Re: [IAEP] SoaS in the classroom feedback

2009-08-02 Thread Bill Kerr
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Hi Bill, I'm excited that you are doing pilot

Re: [IAEP] Letter to GPA Parents

2009-08-02 Thread Bill Kerr
supply a phone number to call if it is not working? won't the families have to go into CMOS (or whatever) to configure booting off the USB stick? I have had students take sticks home (last year) and come back saying they can't get it to work. To enter CMOS requires holding down either Delete or F2

[IAEP] SoaS with SD cards irregularities

2009-08-07 Thread Bill Kerr
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: ===Sugar Digest=== In the meanwhile, we need to: experiment with more USB manufacturers; be more careful about characterizing the different failure modes; do some workflow experiments to see if we can minimize

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] SoaS with SD cards irregularities

2009-08-07 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:11:31PM +0930, Bill Kerr wrote: The sticks I have with SD cards have started to fail on the older computers at school (after working ok for 2 weeks of lessons). But they still

Re: [IAEP] modifying sugar tutorial: different paths for SoaS

2009-08-08 Thread Bill Kerr
thanks Tomeu (for the linux pointers too) sadly I cannot complete the sugar modification tutorial I keep getting messages like liveuser is not in the sudoers file and Permission denied for example when I try to make a backup file with cp SoaS is acting more like a live CD when it comes to linux

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] SoaS with SD cards irregularities

2009-08-10 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.comwrote: Sascha Silbe wrote: On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:11:31PM +0930, Bill Kerr wrote: The sticks I have with SD cards have started to fail on the older computers at school (after working ok for 2 weeks of lessons

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-14 Thread Bill Kerr
one possibility would be to not attempt to teach physics but to make a game good for introduction and also for teamwork see http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/wow-factor-physics.html http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/wow-factor-physics.html

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-14 Thread Bill Kerr
problems in different ways. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: one possibility would be to not attempt to teach physics but to make a game good for introduction and also for teamwork see http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/wow-factor-physics.html http

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-15 Thread Bill Kerr
if you wanted answers :-) On 15 Aug 2009, at 02:51, Bill Kerr wrote: I might try these next week and see how they go: does altering the size of an object affect its drop time? No does joining objects together (large and small) affect drop time? No Remember, you can run all cases at once

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-15 Thread Bill Kerr
hi alan, I'm not sure how your argument here would not apply also to etoys? Is your objection mainly to the name of the program - physics? On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Folks I've previously written a fair amount on this list about what real

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-15 Thread Bill Kerr
and happy students are easier to have discussions with about more complex topics. Just some ideas for further discussion Best wishes, Alan -- *From:* Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com *To:* Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com *Cc:* Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com; iaep

[IAEP] old jabber server does not work with sugar 0.84

2009-08-17 Thread Bill Kerr
A year ago one of my students built a jabber server following instructions that are now deprecated:http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Installing_ejabberd Today we tried to use it with Soas (0.84). The jabber server could see the sugar ids but collaboration didn't work. (Just to clarify collaboration does

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-22 Thread Bill Kerr
happy to answer questions about this vital issue. Best wishes, Alan -- *From:* Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com *To:* Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com *Cc:* Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com; iaep SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; Brian Jordan bcjor...@gmail.com

[IAEP] svg animations, no?

2009-08-27 Thread Bill Kerr
Sugar does not support SVG animations? I just tried to replace the XO icon with an SVG animation as an extension of the http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/8_4/ModifyingSugar exercise - the icon replaced but was not animated. I'm seeking confirmation that this is correct and would be interested in

Re: [IAEP] svg animations, no?

2009-08-27 Thread Bill Kerr
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.comwrote: I've tried animations as well (with JavaScript) and indeed they don't work. However, I'm not sure they really are a good idea for icons. They may get confusing or annoying. I agree that animated icons become

[IAEP] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Bill Kerr
n Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: === Sugar Digest === 4. The recent FSF campaign condemning the use of Windows 7 in education (See http://windows7sins.org/) imputes OLPC in complicity with Microsoft. It is disappointing that the FSF is not making any

Re: [IAEP] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Bill Kerr
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.dewrote: On 28.08.2009, at 11:33, Bill Kerr wrote: n Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: === Sugar Digest === 4. The recent FSF campaign condemning the use of Windows 7

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Bill Kerr
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.comwrote: After a discussion with the FSF, they agreed the picture was not really appropriate and that the text should clearly distinguish OLPC from Sugar. They will make an update - stay tuned. the picture is gone but the

Re: [IAEP] svg animations, no?

2009-08-28 Thread Bill Kerr
thanks for information, tony What I stress to my students initially is the strong underlying rationale for knowing more about SVGs. Some of the points I go over with them more than once are: - animations are fairly easy to achieve (SMIL or Synchronised Multimedia Integration Language is

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Physics-3

2009-08-29 Thread Bill Kerr
thanks Gary the default single click shape does not work for the box but does work for circle and triangle I think there needs to be clear install instructions for those doing this for the first time. I wasn't sure what to do. I found some instructions here

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Physics-3

2009-08-29 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Bill, On 29 Aug 2009, at 14:44, Bill Kerr wrote: the default single click shape does not work for the box but does work for circle and triangle Just to confirm, this is tested and working. But, I think what

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Physics-3

2009-08-29 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.comwrote: Hi Bill, On 30 Aug 2009, at 01:30, Bill Kerr wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Bill, On 29 Aug 2009, at 14:44, Bill Kerr wrote: the default single click

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Fwd: w7sins FUD

2009-09-02 Thread Bill Kerr
!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Bill Kerr http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] 40 maths shapes challenges

2009-09-04 Thread Bill Kerr
/kittyAngles.html students were off trying to build the shapes, or coming up with new ones ...some seem to find their niche with this -Original Message- From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org on behalf of Bill Kerr Sent: Mon 8/31/2009 9:19 PM To: iaep Subject: [IAEP] 40 maths

Re: [IAEP] 40 maths shapes challenges

2009-09-04 Thread Bill Kerr
math. On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: Image attached Forty shapes to make in Scratch http://scratch.mit.edu/ or some other version of logo, such as Turtle Arthttp://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art. It's hard to see the thumbnail but click

[IAEP] SVG coloured icons

2009-09-04 Thread Bill Kerr
arising out of my class work with SVG icons many of the students wanted some fixed colours in their replacement icons and I wanted them to demo ability to reset colours within sugar both are possible by setting some colours with either names or hexadecimal and setting other colours using

[IAEP] another svg icons issue

2009-09-06 Thread Bill Kerr
svg paths for arcs don't accept decimal values the icon ends up being smudged all over the place in a green colour an example of something that should work but doesn't in sugar !-- Arms CREATES ERROR , paths don't take decimals in sugar, replace with beziers path d=M 18 35 A .5 .1 15 0 0 18 38

[IAEP] turtle art: 2 instances, no?

2009-09-07 Thread Bill Kerr
I can't see any way to load 2 instances on the SoaS version If I have a project loaded, saved and named Then go into the journal and try to load an older saved version then it doesn't load but puts me back to the current open version I have to first close the current version and then open the

Re: [IAEP] turtle art: 2 instances, no?

2009-09-07 Thread Bill Kerr
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Bill, On 7 Sep 2009, at 12:09, Bill Kerr wrote: I can't see any way to load 2 instances on the SoaS version If I have a project loaded, saved and named Then go into the journal and try to load an older saved

Re: [IAEP] turtle art: 2 instances, no?

2009-09-07 Thread Bill Kerr
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Bill Kerrbillk...@gmail.com wrote: I can't see any way to load 2 instances on the SoaS version If I have a project loaded, saved and named Then go into the journal and try to load an

Re: [IAEP] 40 maths shapes challenges

2009-09-09 Thread Bill Kerr
, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: Image attached Forty shapes to make in Scratch http://scratch.mit.edu/ or some other version of logo, such as Turtle Arthttp://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art. It's hard to see the thumbnail but click on it for a larger view

[IAEP] turtle art clean request

2009-09-12 Thread Bill Kerr
it would be good to have a tile that only cleaned the graphics and kept the other setting such as current pen thickness, colour, turtle position, heading etc logowriter had a rg reset graphics which acted like the TA clean and a clean which acted like I'm suggesting in my first line, other

Re: [IAEP] Another article that could probably use some measured response.

2009-09-14 Thread Bill Kerr
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Kevin Cole dc.l...@gmail.com wrote: This may have already come up in the 680 unread messages I have in my inbox... If so, my apologies. A researcher in my office subscribes to Miller-McCune magazine, whose slogan is Turning Research into Solutions. After

Re: [IAEP] Another article that could probably use some measured response.

2009-09-14 Thread Bill Kerr
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Kevin Cole dc.l...@gmail.com wrote: This may have already come up in the 680 unread messages I have in my inbox... If so, my apologies. A researcher in my office subscribes to Miller

Re: [IAEP] inquiry on constructionism advantages

2009-09-30 Thread Bill Kerr
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.comwrote: I have received an inquiry on implementing constructionism from a high official in the Bolivian government. Since my opinion may be biased :-), I request you help us with clear, simple and please objective answers

Re: [IAEP] inquiry on constructionism advantages

2009-09-30 Thread Bill Kerr
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.comwrote: I have received an inquiry on implementing constructionism from a high official in the Bolivian government. Since my opinion may be biased :-), I request you help us with clear, simple and please objective answers

[IAEP] Sdenka Salas's book about the xo and sugar

2009-09-30 Thread Bill Kerr
from walter's digest: 2. Sdenka Salas, a teacher who is working with Andean children from Aymara and Quechua communities, wrote a book in April about using Sugar in the classroom. She recently completed the English-language version. She has kindly made it available for download (See

Re: [IAEP] scratch gone missing

2009-11-07 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.dewrote: On 07.11.2009, at 04:48, Bill Kerr wrote: On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:10, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: http

Re: [IAEP] scratch gone missing

2009-11-09 Thread Bill Kerr
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.dewrote: On 07.11.2009, at 23:28, Bill Kerr wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.dewrote: On 07.11.2009, at 04:48, Bill Kerr wrote: On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Tomeu Vizoso

Re: [IAEP] scratch gone missing

2009-11-21 Thread Bill Kerr
Scratch cover story of the November 2009 issue of CACM, the monthly magazine of the Association for Computing Machinery http://web.media.mit.edu/~mres/scratch/scratch-cacm.pdf Clear explanation of design principles along with successful, interesting project ideas including some great

[IAEP] tony forster recent blogs

2009-12-15 Thread Bill Kerr
tony has a very interesting blog about critical literacy as well as quite a few other recent great turtle art projects http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/12/computer-programming-and-acquisition-of.html http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/ ___ IAEP -- It's

Re: [IAEP] an interesting article on an article on learning styles...

2009-12-18 Thread Bill Kerr
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Almost certainly, you were told that your instruction should match your students' styles. For example, kinesthetic learners—students who learn best through hands-on activities—are said to do better in classes that feature

Re: [IAEP] Academic papers about Sugar (UI)

2010-01-15 Thread Bill Kerr
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hi Sascha, the best work in this context that I've seen so far is Sven Bergman's master thesis: Sugar - Not necessarily unhealthy: