Hi Listers,
Sorry for long text. Cross-post to get more exposure.
We have one of the OSA-Express 1000Base-T configured for Non-QDIO for
SNA. I have gone through the OSA-Express Customer's Guide and Reference
and there are no examples for VTAM definitions for XCA or SWNET. I am
having trouble
Thank you all.
Anyway there are some days that a man could't access to web services and
you need some information quickly (a server down for instance).
Best regards
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Hi experts,
I am a beginner of dump reading and have a simple S0C4. Could anyone please
guide me.
The PSW looks 079D 9B76D1B4. The failing instruction is L R15,X'0C'(R15).
The value of R15 is 000128FC.
The output of VERBX VSMDATA shows;
DATA FOR SUBPOOL 251, KEY 8 FOLLOWS:
Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:55:23 -0500, Ned Hedrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
There is also a product called Inergen -- a mixture of 52% nitrogen, 40%
argon and 8% carbon dioxide -- that claims to be safe to the environment
and people.
...
FSVO safe. Sounds good for the
Hi Al,
Is this CICS related ?
Paul Hanrahan
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Subject: How to find fetch protected area
Hi experts,
I am a beginner of
Well, I'm the IBMer who wrote the first version of what Vicky's presenting
at SHARE. So technically I'd be up for it - in Europe. (Actually I did
present this at z/OS Conferences in Noordwijk last year and Innsbruck this
year.) Getting it to happen, bureaucratically, is another matter.
My main
If the result of a C compile is warning, then I'm sure we could be
persuaded to take an APAR.
Having said that, the silly file has been out there for something like 3
years, with no one mentioning a problem, and it's in samplib so certainly
can be changed by your shop to suit your site's needs.
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:15 PM
Subject: Message Standards w9as: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration
question (COBOL)
Tom,
You say this in this message and said (when I asked where you
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Message Standards w9as: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration
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There is an IBM corporate standard for both Message Formats
On Jun 23, 2005, at 12:09 AM, Thomas Conley wrote:
Not at all.
Just because you find a shift-in in your source doesn't mean the
error message is at fault. If you look at your listing and
actually see a shift in there, then you might want to complain
about the preprocessor that placed
The idea of programmers installing software via CD into product
libraries they have access to scares the willies out of me. It is one
of two issues I have with this.
I can see some fear of the unknown, but I don't see any reason
for panic. If your shop controls access to production libraries
Web enablement of data access is another kettle of fish. All
computers are really good at doing what you tell them to do.
I'm already dealing with this one on several fronts as
applications move away from green screens to web front ends.
I mention it more as what possibilities the whole
I thought you said there was a way in z/VM to restrict a guest to run
ESA/390 and not switch to z/Architecture. But I'll be damned if I can
find it now.
Thoughts?
IANA VM weenie, but I would guess that if the VM is IPL'd into
a partition that is running ARCHLVL 1, then the only thing a
We still IPL at least every 6 weeks to recycle ASID's. We bounce 4 DB2
subsystems nightly and that chews them up. We are running z/OS V1.4.
Ben Alford Enterprise Systems Programming
University of Tennessee[EMAIL PROTECTED]
We still IPL at least every 6 weeks to recycle ASID's. We
bounce 4 DB2
subsystems nightly and that chews them up. We are running z/OS V1.4.
Possibly unanswerable question, but why on earth would you bounce
those subsystems at all? There is no need to and doing it creates
a long term
Guy,
we IPL almost weekly, unless there is no need to.
This basically caused by the software implementation/update procedures that
we use. We generate new volumes and IPL from them, thus we don't (hardly)
change anything in running systems *and* we have a fallback system at hand
b.m.o. the old
We bring down our DB2s weekly to put them into maintenance mode to run
an image copy. It's an old, old habit of our DBAs and its due to poor
application design. The DBAs want a point in time backup, which would
be do-able without bringing them down; however the application designers
designed
When we went to our nice, shiny new 2086 back in December, we finally
got away from needing our 3745 controller. I am mentioning this on the off
chance that someone out there may be interested in it. I think it is a model
170; I can verify that if anyone actually cares enough to
Thank you for that assurance. It will help in the negotiations to follow.
Peter
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If the result of a C compile
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:59:02 -0400, Tim Hare [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We bring down our DB2s weekly to put them into maintenance mode to run
an image copy. It's an old, old habit of our DBAs and its due to poor
application design.
snip
Something similar was does here in the past for the LPARs
In a message dated 6/24/2005 9:23:10 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My problem is that we manually purged over 5,000 jobs. We looked in the
MVS System commands manual and couldn't find the syntax for some sort of
BLOCK DELETE command.
JES Commands might be more
Why not use the SDSF block delete on the panels. Use the //P on the
first job and // on the last job. SDSF will generate all the jes2 delete
commands for you
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I don't think you should take a few responses on the list as indicative of
SOP one way or the other, but so that new folks don't get the impression
that it's mandatory to do this quite so frequently, I'll pipe in and say we
only IPL PROD lpars once (or maybe at most 3 or 4 times) a year.
I'm
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
06/23/2005
at 11:31 AM, Tom Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I assure you that the compiler writers find the messages totally
informative.
For most of them that is true.
Well, yes, but the compiler writers should not be the target audience.
I assure you that programmers
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/23/2005
at 11:04 AM, Rolf Ernst [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
the question is to which lengths COBOL goes to determine which files
were opened.
No, the question is to what lengths a program should go in an attempt
to work around a broken subroutine; the issue would be
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/23/2005
at 11:10 PM, Wang Rong [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
My intent is to produce a report of all PDS in the system,
Do you have FDR? You might want to use FDREPORT for that.
--
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ISO position; see
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 06/23/2005
at 02:27 PM, Knutson, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
In theory this process is supposed to be facilitated on an ongoing
basis using the requirements application on the web. The
requirements application has had growing pains but I believe the
theory is becoming
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 06/23/2005
at 10:00 AM, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Just what I said. It will go in fetch protected storage UNLESS is
rent and APF.
That may be what you meant to say; it's not what you wrote.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/23/2005
at 07:23 PM, Joe Zitzelberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
While the preprocessors usually do a decent job, blind faith in their
abilities is excessive. There are many cases where they can produce
errors in a compile. How will having more documentation
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
06/23/2005
at 01:33 PM, Bill Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
With FLAG(I,I) which became the default at the same time as DBCS, the
message *does* appear exactly AFTER the line (inserted by the
preprocessor) which follows the originally coded line. As the mesage
also
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Our JES2 Job queue was filled up this morning by a runaway job
that created
Try $POJOBQ,JM=JOBNAME*
Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos
Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
Banco Bradesco S/A
4254/DPCD/Alphaville
Suporte Tecnico - Software Basico Mainframes
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Big thank you's to Eric Mendelson and John Mckown.
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Ed Gould wrote:
Frank,
How about a road trip a freebie 1 day seminar .
Mainly addressing application type people?
I am sure lots of companies would love to see you come to their city:-)
Ed,
Sorry, but I don't travel on business for personal reasons (and I'm a much
better writer than I am a
ED , this is a low blow. Videotron is also ISP among other things and that's
one of my email addresses I use because Ibm-main is a high traffic volume.
I've been working in computer business since 1978. System programmer since
1980 and writing CICS software since 1993 (Macro Level Interpreter
Edward E. Jaffe wrote:
Joel C. Ewing wrote:
The concept of Name/Token pairs is aesthetically pleasing and
obviously less likely to get you into trouble, but has anyone done any
serious study on the cost of using this service?
I will confess that we have used and continue to use TCBUSER
these days the IPL process is
pretty much an automated cinch that takes less than 5 minutes
The time depends upon a lot of things... and the outage is longer than the
actual IPL, as measured at our shop the outage is from when online systems
(TSO, CICS, IMS, Web applications) come down, to when
...
We bounce 4 DB2
subsystems nightly and that chews them up
...
We had the same problem with IMS.
Our solution was two-fold:
1. Increase the number of ASID's.
2. Don't bounce them unless we had to.
Why do you bounce sub-systems that are designed to be up all the time, on a
nightly basis.
That's it, right now it is running CICSKEY but It'd be best key9 in case a
programmer mess up Richard
Tom Schmidt wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:15:58 -0400, Richard Verville wrote:
If what I need to do could be done by the rules, it would done
already ...So far I've received 8 emails ,
...
BLOCK DELETE command.
Can anyone help us ?
...
PREFIX JOBNAME*
at first one put
PP in the line command area
page down MAX put
PP in the line command area
ENTER
Or:
$pJ1-5000
As long as the jobs are the only ones in the range, and the numbers I picked
are arbitrary.
-teD
(The secret to
Correction
//P
Instead of
PP
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To:IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: sdsf block delete
...
BLOCK DELETE command.
Can anyone help us ?
...
PREFIX JOBNAME*
at first one put
PP in the line
PREFIX JOBNAME*
at first one put
//P in the line command area
page down MAX put
// in the line command area
ENTER
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:00 PM
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Looks like this -- first line of delete is //p, last line is //
Display Filter View Print Options Help
SDSF HELD OUTPUT DISPLAY ALL CLASSES LINES 1,896 LINE
COMMAND INPUT ===
I think the ISPF application is OK and RMF reports enough information
although not in a format that management would like. Therefore the need for
other reporting products that put RMF measurements into pretty charts.
The biggest problem I have is that management do not really understand the
WLM
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:15:58 -0400, Richard Verville wrote:
I have this routine that is notreentrant and needs to be OS loaded (instead
of CICS loaded) and while using storage protection in CICS is has to be in
key9 because the program updating it, is running key9. Right now the key9
program
Couple of questions ...
Where is it located?
When was maint dropped on it (i.e. is it still 'certifiable')?
Price? or is it 'free' (new owner pays for shipping)?
I know we have a fully loaded 310 or 410 with only a couple of active lines ...
may be looking to downgrade if we need to keep them
...
Your mainframe now has new code on it in a library your DBA has access
to.
...
Why is this an issue?
I don't care how you install a programme; if you don't have access to critical
libraries,
you cannot screw the system.
-teD
(The secret to success is sincerity.
If you can fake that,
you've
My wife said no. - Paul Hanrahan
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Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 10:18 AM
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Subject: Up for adoption: 3745
When we went to our nice, shiny new 2086 back in
In our case, it seemed to be a 3480 vary timeout that
affected our OSA. Our OSA is an OSA-Express FENET running
SNA only on z/OS 1.4. We've had this happen twice now, and
each time it sets the XCA PU's IINOP. So far, IBM refuses to
believe that the errors are related.
Hi folks
Is there some sort of limit or restriction on the number of volumes that can be
in a daily tape set?
I just started getting
ARC0702I BACKUP OF VOLUME vv TERMINATED, NO DAILY
ARC0702I (CONT.) BACKUP VOLUME AVAILABLE
today.
I don't pre-define tape backup
In a message dated 6/24/2005 11:55:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also, if, as I now suspect, Mr. or M. Verville is francophone, some of the
quaintness of his exposition is explained and very fully excused, and since
I am bilingual in French and English, I would
Al,
The protection is an attribute of the subpool. See:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2v250/1.8.3
Al Chu wrote:
Hi experts,
I am a beginner of dump reading and have a simple S0C4. Could anyone please
guide me.
The PSW looks 079D 9B76D1B4. The
I have previously suggested that the DFSort sessions at SHARE be
cross-listed with the LNGC (and possibly DVLG) projects.
It is MY impression that the application people who DO attend SHARE (and
they aren't the majority) do NOT look at the schedule of what is available
in the various z/OS
Craddock, Chris wrote:
I thought you said there was a way in z/VM to restrict a guest to run
ESA/390 and not switch to z/Architecture. But I'll be damned if I can
find it now.
Thoughts?
IANA VM weenie, but I would guess that if the VM is IPL'd into
a partition that is running ARCHLVL
Al Chu wrote:
How do I know the area is fetch protected ? Is there any IPCS command to tell
fetch protected or not?
IPCS SETDEF DISPLAY(MACHINE)
Now, when you LIST any storage area in the dump, the virtual storage key
(including fetch protection status) will be displayed as KEY(xy)
It is in Greenville, SC, USA. We dropped maintenance on it in December. As
for the price, I'll have to check with my boss, but I can't imagine it being
too much if anything at all.
Jon
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Brian:
Take a look at OW42097. It is old, but it may apply.
Jim Kornmeyer
IBM Global Services - ATT Account
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We were told we couldn't use OSA/SF to configure SNA on an OSA card newer
than OSA-FE (which if I recall was the 100Mbit Ethernet - 100Base-T?) - is
that not true?
Tim Hare
Senior Systems Programmer
Florida Department of Transportation
(850) 414-4209
As of the 2004 tape I received from them, the answer is emphatically NO!
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The details are different,
but there have been discussions before on
the lack of SMP competence at specific vendors. Has CA[1] finally
cleaned up its act?
[1] Not that
Ok will do.
Thanks Jim
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Sent: Fri 24/6/05 19:05
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: HSM tape daily backup volumes
Brian:
Take a look at OW42097. It is old, but it may apply.
Jim
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:36:24 -0400, Gray, Larry - Larry A
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Subareas are the part I understand. CTC's, PATH, etc. I know. I was
just wondering if that was the better route to use.
...
I've always used subareas for LPARs. Basically just clone ATCCONxx and
ATCSTRxx and edit
SMP/E produces a block of lines for each element. Something like
element-nameLASTUPD =
LIBRARIES = DISTLIB=
FMID =
RMID =
I would like to convert it to a one line entry
Yes, I should have added the details that the lpar referenced was a member
of a sysplex, but the db2 ssid mentioned is a
vintage legacy model that is standalone with no datasharing. So, for this
particular environment, the db2 part of the oltp network only runs on one
lpar at a time. So even
Yea, they had this happen at a petroleum company in Dallas.
Construction workers were in and out all day using a door that saw you
coming and opened automatically. One of them went out of the room
though the back door. On his way out, he pushed the door and it failed
to open. Instead of
In a message dated 6/24/2005 3:01:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
... the older buildings had Red Buttons to push to unlock the door to get
out.
We never had Red Buttons to push to unlock any doors where I worked. We
tried, but he was always too busy making
Barry A Schwarz wrote:
SMP/E produces a block of lines for each element. Something like
element-nameLASTUPD =
LIBRARIES = DISTLIB=
FMID =
RMID =
I would
Not a big red button, but close. IBM CE's just finished replacing an HDA in
IBM 3380 cabinet. They were picking up the crashed HDA sitting on the floor
at the head of the string when one of the CE's loses his balance. Hand
swings over his head and hits the disable switches on about 12 of the 16
Xerox engineer came by to work on Xerox printer. On the way out, instead of
pressing the double door breaker bar on the first set of doors he presses
the RED power-off button. Down 8 hours. Plastic covers on them the next
week. Engineer is still at Xerox, office job.
Further down the road, a RED
On Jun 24, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Frank Yaeger wrote:
Ed Gould wrote:
Frank,
How about a road trip a freebie 1 day seminar .
Mainly addressing application type people?
I am sure lots of companies would love to see you come to their
city:-)
Ed,
Sorry, but I don't travel on business for personal
The cleaning crew was in. They decided to dust the disk drives. Remember the
write disable switch on 3350s. Took 2 hours to realize what happened.
At another site we had double doors. The handle was on the left door and the
buttons were past the right. Had to grab the handle, reach across
It might be better to start with the SMPLOG file, which is more sequential
in nature - assuming that you don't DUMMY it out, and that you're not
trying to analyze some archived disk copy of an SMP/E report where you can
no longer retrieve the log.
Tim Hare
Senior Systems Programmer
Florida
On Jun 24, 2005, at 12:23 PM, Bill Klein wrote:
--SNIP---
NOTE WELL:
Although this topic comes up occasionally in IBM-MAIN, there really
are
VERY FEW questions in either comp.lang.cobol or TEK-TIPS about what
does
the following IBM COBOL compiler
...
The cleaning crew was in. They decided to dust the disk drives. Remember the
write disable switch on 3350s. Took 2 hours to realize what happened.
...
One day, a cleaner saw the CE access plug on a 3350 C/U, while the CE was using
it.
She told everybody about it.
One night crew member
I consider myself further educated on the nuances of VM moderne. ;-)
There was one comment about 'a partition that is running ARCHLVL 1' that I
think needs fleshing out. Looking only at bare metal without the smoke and
mirrors of VM, ARCHLVL is not selectable by LPAR. A CEC is either ARCHLVL 2
or
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/23/2005
at 02:12 PM, Clark Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
In regard to the legacy code, ten years ago I might have agreed with
you and argued for a compatibility interface. Since the FBA change
would be part of an overall revolutionary set of changes requiring
all
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/24/2005
at 02:37 AM, john gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Like Chris, I am sure that we can help you to do what, functionally,
you need to do if you are willing to take the time to post what that
is.
And like Chris I will ask why he wants to do a LOAD in a CICS
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/24/2005
at 12:48 AM, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
IDENTIFY cannot be used to convert an unnamed area of virtual
storage into a module with a CDE.
Are you a betting man?
It works only for that virtual storage covered
by the extent list of an existing
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 06/24/2005
at 10:22 AM, Raymond J. Slisz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
My problem is that we manually purged over 5,000 jobs. We looked in
the MVS System commands manual
Why? You use JES commands to purge jobs, not MVS commands.
and couldn't find the syntax for some sort
Hi Ed and Don,
great stuff, thanks for your help. That was what I was looking for.
Al Chu
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Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: How to find fetch
Thanks Chris, the changkey is working perfect, I know there are other ways
like SVC 122 or AOS load. I did not write this application , I was just
trying to make it more secure in a storage protection environment like
pop's cops but more CICS' cops Sorry I was misunderstood but you guys
are of
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 06/24/2005
at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
It turns out one of the rookie tape-hangers had noticed the heat
coming out of the top of the (air-cooled) 470.
He started using it to keep the large pizza, the shift ordered every
night, warm.
Sounds like
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:02:15 -0500, Joe D'Alessandro
joseph.d'[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know if OA11161 is actually a fix to code that was not working
according to specifications, or is it a change in how the T= (timeout)
parm is intended to work (that is, a change to the
It might be better to start with the SMPLOG file, which is more
sequential
in nature - assuming that you don't DUMMY it out, and that you're not
trying to analyze some archived disk copy of an SMP/E report where you
can
no longer retrieve the log.
SMPLOG? Ick. What I've done for such
SMPLOG? Ick. What I've done for such purposes is use SMP/E UNLOAD to
create a much more rigidly formatted file, and then I write a program
to reformat the UNLOAD output as desired.
Double Ick !!!
What's wrong with the GIMAPI .
Shane ...
Years too late -- it didn't exist when I
Hi Shane,
Will you be coming to SHARE in Seattle? I won't make Boston, but my
collegue will be at the Natural from Software Ag Conference occurring
nearby.
I expect that when /Leonard was doing this sort of thing GIMAPI was
hypothetical fantasy. But I could be wrong as I often am.
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