Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-30 Thread Phil Payne
Probably desperate. The web site is a disaster - www.wavemindinc.com is a duplicate of www.wavemindit.com and copyscape spits it straight out. Then there's what Google refers to as canonicalization. Duplicate -30 places penalty from Google for a start. Then all the title statements are the

SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error?

2007-05-30 Thread Paul Schuster
Hello: I am encountering a problem with the following scenario: I have a dataset defined in the PARMLIB member LNKLSTxx like this: dataset(volser) After an IPL, I can access my program from this linklist data set. Now, the dataset is moved to a new volser. I do the following sequence of

Re: SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error?

2007-05-30 Thread Bill Wilkie
Paul: The 106 abend with an F is usually indicative of a problem where the module is now beyond the extent where it existed when the system was started. Try a compress to bring it back within the original extents, or simply add a steplib to it to use the deb created by the JCL as opposed to

Re: Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-30 Thread R.S.
Phil Payne wrote: Probably desperate. The web site is a disaster - www.wavemindinc.com is a duplicate of www.wavemindit.com and copyscape spits it straight out. Then there's what Google refers to as canonicalization. Duplicate -30 places penalty from Google for a start. Then all the title

Re: SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error?

2007-05-30 Thread Barbara Nitz
In my opinion, the first activate of lnklst NEW1 would not have been necessary, but does not hurt. Did you restart all your initiators to pick up the new linklist NEW2? Remember, only address spaces started *after* NEW2 was activated would have that new dataset on the other volser in the

Re: Secure Tn3270

2007-05-30 Thread Gibney, Dave
This certainly is the basic jist of it, also the redbook is your friend. Search TCPIP and Security on the rebokk page and you should find it. There is also good advice over on RACF-L -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent:

Re: SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error?

2007-05-30 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Wed, 30 May 2007 01:18:18 -0500, Paul Schuster wrote: I have a dataset defined in the PARMLIB member LNKLSTxx like this: dataset(volser) From Init Tuning: If you use LNKLSTxx instead of PROGxx, during IPL, the system opens and concatenates each data set in the order it was listed,

Re: zOS 1.8 and One Byte Console ID

2007-05-30 Thread Mark Jacobs
Mark H. Young wrote: Mark.do you mind my asking what no longer supported vendor product you are talking about.and what co. ?? Just curious. Might have something to do with console authority within the JES2 parm def for internal readers (off the top of my sparse head). Did something

Re: zOS 1.8 and One Byte Console ID

2007-05-30 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 06:56 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: We have an old version of a mainframe based email package, EMC/TAO ... Stirring up old memories there. Why didn't this appear in the tracking data (prior to 1.8) ???. I'm currently prepping for 1.8, and I'm relying heavily on all the

Re: zOS 1.8 and One Byte Console ID

2007-05-30 Thread Mark Jacobs
Shane wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 06:56 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: We have an old version of a mainframe based email package, EMC/TAO ... Stirring up old memories there. Why didn't this appear in the tracking data (prior to 1.8) ???. I'm currently prepping for 1.8, and I'm relying

Re: zOS 1.8 and One Byte Console ID

2007-05-30 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 07:35 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: I just didn't think that anything bad would happen. M - I have to say I don't like the concept that a 1.8 system entering a happily running 'plex will unilaterally cause the master console to vapourise. For the entire 'plex !!!.

Re: zOS 1.8 and One Byte Console ID

2007-05-30 Thread Barbara Nitz
Well, we just IPL'd 1.8 in the test plex for the first time. Guess what: Both UNKNIDS and INTIDS were ignored in consolxx (iea196 with reason code 3, which isn't in the 1.8 books anymore). I could vary that attribute on the 1.8 system for all consoles, no matter where they are active. I cannot

HSM APAR Available

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Marshall
Discovered after the implemetnation of the IBM Encryption facility to encrypt our HSM dumps, that certain volumes may get skipped. Reported the problem and it turns out it is not an IBM Encryption Facility issue but a HSM problem. IBM level 2 created APAR OA21183 to document the problem. IBM

Re: Secure Tn3270

2007-05-30 Thread Schramm, Rob
Additional items to consider is a SHARE presentation on SSL which was very good. And the RACF Security Administration manual does a nice job of laying out different scenerios and the needed commands. You might consider (if the client supports it) just auto-accepting the certificate. Some other

Re: zOS 1.8 and One Byte Console ID

2007-05-30 Thread Mark Jacobs
Barbara Nitz wrote: Well, we just IPL'd 1.8 in the test plex for the first time. Guess what: Both UNKNIDS and INTIDS were ignored in consolxx (iea196 with reason code 3, which isn't in the 1.8 books anymore). I could vary that attribute on the 1.8 system for all consoles, no matter where they

Re: zOS 1.8 and One Byte Console ID

2007-05-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Okay, I am probably way off base, but is it possible this might be related to Security? I now there was an APAR at z/OS V1.1 that required some security profiles for the Console. OW53806 * USERS AFFECTED: Users running

Re: Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-30 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Radoslaw, I read your reply to Phil and laughed. You dissed Phil saying that his efforts were wasted time and inappropriate to post here. But yet, you continued the thread by posting on it. Personally, I'm glad for Phil's research. I too got the email from them. When I first started

Trying to contact Jim Bartlet of CSC

2007-05-30 Thread Steve Comstock
We talked with you a week ago and can't find your contact information. Please give us a call or drop us a line offlist. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include

Re: SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error?

2007-05-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 30 May 2007 01:18:18 -0500, Paul Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I am encountering a problem with the following scenario: I have a dataset defined in the PARMLIB member LNKLSTxx like this: dataset(volser) After an IPL, I can access my program from this linklist data set. Now,

Re: SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error?

2007-05-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 30 May 2007 08:53:22 +0200, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you restart all your initiators to pick up the new linklist NEW2? Remember, only address spaces started *after* NEW2 was activated would have that new dataset on the other volser in the linklist. All other address

Re: SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error?

2007-05-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 30 May 2007 05:11:03 -0500, Norbert Friemel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 01:18:18 -0500, Paul Schuster wrote: I have a dataset defined in the PARMLIB member LNKLSTxx like this: dataset(volser) From Init Tuning: If you use LNKLSTxx instead of PROGxx, during IPL, the

Re: SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error?

2007-05-30 Thread Craddock, Chris
After an IPL, I can access my program from this linklist data set. Now, the dataset is moved to a new volser. I do the following sequence of commands: SETPROG LNKLST DEFINE,NAME=NEW1,COPYFROM=CURRENT SETPROG LNKLST ACTIVATE,NAME=NEW2 At this point, a SETPROG

Re: zOS 1.8 and One Byte Console ID

2007-05-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:22:13 +0200, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, we just IPL'd 1.8 in the test plex for the first time. Guess what: Both UNKNIDS and INTIDS were ignored in consolxx (iea196 with reason code 3, which isn't in the 1.8 books anymore). I could vary that attribute on the

Re: zOS 1.8 and One Byte Console ID

2007-05-30 Thread George Kozakos
Mark Jacobs wrote: I received the same IEA198 message when I ipled my test 1.8 system. I manually enabled the options on consoles in my zos 1.8 system and on the system that receives the failure. Nothing worked. I still received the same IEE345I message. Maybe you have OA11274 installed on your

Re: zOS 1.8 and One Byte Console ID

2007-05-30 Thread Mark Jacobs
George Kozakos wrote: Mark Jacobs wrote: I received the same IEA198 message when I ipled my test 1.8 system. I manually enabled the options on consoles in my zos 1.8 system and on the system that receives the failure. Nothing worked. I still received the same IEE345I message. Maybe

Re: SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error?

2007-05-30 Thread Mark Zelden
No. SETPROG LNKLST is doing what it was advertised to do, but remember that changes to the active linklist only take effect for address spaces started after you issue SETPROG. Batch jobs run in initiators and they live a very long time. So chances are your job is trying to fetch the module using

Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-05-30 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 May 2007 14:13:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Spencer) wrote: Since this discussion has been going on for over three decades with little progress in terms of widespread change, one has to ask: is parallel programming just too difficult for most programmers? Are the tools inadequate or

Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-05-30 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Brazee) writes: Depending on one's definition of parallel programming, we have been doing to various degrees since before they started

Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Is there much of a cost to switching amodes? Is it worth writing code to be able to run completely in 64 bit mode (and maintain the top half of the registers) or is it fine to switch in and out when referencing storage above the bar? POPs does not indicate anything. -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL

Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-05-30 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: long ago and far away, this was one of the battles getting the compareswap instruction into 370 architecture. testset

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread Edward Jaffe
Binyamin Dissen wrote: Is there much of a cost to switching amodes? Is it worth writing code to be able to run completely in 64 bit mode (and maintain the top half of the registers) or is it fine to switch in and out when referencing storage above the bar? POPs does not indicate anything.

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs? Binyamin Dissen wrote: Is there much of a cost to

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs? On Wed, 30 May 2007 09:45:04 -0700 Edward Jaffe [EMAIL

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread Edward Jaffe
Binyamin Dissen wrote: :In my experience, excessive switching of addressing mode is quite :expensive. I suspect it's because the entire pipeline must be flushed. I didn't see that in the POPs. AFAIK, the Principles of Operation does not discuss processor pipeline considerations for any

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 30 May 2007 09:45:04 -0700 Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Binyamin Dissen wrote: : Is there much of a cost to switching amodes? : Is it worth writing code to be able to run completely in 64 bit mode (and : maintain the top half of the registers) or is it fine to switch in and out

Re: Counting occurrences of a string in loadlib

2007-05-30 Thread Craig Schneiderwent
For the archives, I believe file 758 (just made available) on the CBT site will solve the original problem. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET

Re: SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error?

2007-05-30 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Do you need to refresh LLA ? -Original Message- From: Paul Schuster [mailto:snip] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error? Hello: I am encountering a problem with the following scenario: I have a dataset

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:39:48 -0700 Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Binyamin Dissen wrote: : :In my experience, excessive switching of addressing mode is quite : :expensive. I suspect it's because the entire pipeline must be flushed. : I didn't see that in the POPs. :AFAIK, the

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread Edward Jaffe
Binyamin Dissen wrote: Why would an AMODE change require a pipline flush? It doesn't branch anywhere. The current pipline should be valid. I simply indicated that, in *my* experience, address mode switching is fairly expensive and suggested one possible cause. (FWIW, I've found similar

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs? On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:39:48 -0700 Edward Jaffe

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Binyamin Dissen wrote: Is there much of a cost to switching amodes? I see in follow-up posts you're not near a definitive answer. Could you post your queries on Assembler-L? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht! 'Full portability: Same bugs on every platforms.' 'On a clear disk you can

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread Tom Harper
Binyamin and Ed, Certainly, if operands were pre-fetched based on 31-bit addresses, the addresses of operands could change once you were in 64-bit mode, so the actual operands could be changed. If operands were changed, since the processor makes pre-fetching decisions based on preliminary

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 30 May 2007 11:45:10 -0700 Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Binyamin Dissen wrote: : Why would an AMODE change require a pipline flush? It doesn't branch anywhere. : The current pipline should be valid. :I simply indicated that, in *my* experience, address mode switching is

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:48:47 -0500 Tom Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Certainly, if operands were pre-fetched based on 31-bit addresses, the :addresses of operands could change once you were in 64-bit mode, so the :actual operands could be changed. If operands were changed, since the :processor

One day to go and Web Ibmlink isn't working for me

2007-05-30 Thread Gibney, Dave
I can't get a ptf ordered and trying to enter an ETR also fails. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: One day to go and Web Ibmlink isn't working for me

2007-05-30 Thread Gibney, Dave
I guess it might have been I.E. Open/close browser seems to have helped :( I'm really, REALLY, going to miss tn3270 access to Ibmlink. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:18 PM To:

Re: Is there a cost in switching AMODEs?

2007-05-30 Thread Edward Jaffe
Binyamin Dissen wrote: A key change caused a slowdown? Interesting. Yes. And PoP gives no clue as to why that would be the case. I *assumed* it was because instructions executed later in the pipeline must be re-processed using the new key. I have lots of code where it switches to key0

Re: One day to go and Web Ibmlink isn't working for me

2007-05-30 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: One day to go and Web Ibmlink isn't working for me I can't get a ptf ordered and trying to enter

ISPF list data set attributes?

2007-05-30 Thread Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just tried to print a data set list from ISRUDLP Data Set List Utility. I got: .-. | The listing of data sets was placed in the ISPF list data set. Lines have | | been wrapped because the logical record length is

Re: ISPF list data set attributes?

2007-05-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
This is probably the ISPF Configuration. You can check the config file and see if it has OUTPUT specified differently from the message. I can validate my system with ISPVCALL function. In the output it has the OUTPUT listing file and its attributes. Lizette I just tried to print a data set

Re: ISPF list data set attributes?

2007-05-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
I forgot to show what it looks like in my ISPVCALL output Edit BackupOutlist Block Size 13,680 Block Size 13,566 Primary blocks 40 Primary tracks 200 Secondary blocks.. 200

Re: ISPF list data set attributes?

2007-05-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:40:22 -0500, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried to print a data set list from ISRUDLP Data Set List Utility. I got: .-. | The listing of data sets was placed in the ISPF

Re: ISPF list data set attributes?

2007-05-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 May 2007 15:02:34 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: Well, it does seem pretty self explanatory to me. Yes, but it doesn't give the expected Programmer Response I think it changed in 1.7 (we skipped that release).You can change it via SETTINGS Log/List List Data set characteristics Ah!

Re: ISPF list data set attributes?

2007-05-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 30 May 2007 15:45:16 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 15:02:34 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: Well, it does seem pretty self explanatory to me. Yes, but it doesn't give the expected Programmer Response I guess it should say to change it via SETTINGS. I'm

Re: One day to go and Web Ibmlink isn't working for me

2007-05-30 Thread Robert Justice
I'm really going to miss 3270 access tio IBMLINK. It actually WORKED, a wild concept. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

ABCs of z/OS System Programming Volume 8

2007-05-30 Thread Kittendorf, Craig
I may have missed it if someone else has already posted it, but ABCs of z/OS System Programming Volume 8: An introduction to z/OS problem diagnosis is available with a 15 May 2007 publish date. http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246988.html?Open Craig

Re: SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error?

2007-05-30 Thread Paul Schuster
I tried some of the suggestions here (stoprestart initiator, SETPROG UPDATE) and still got the same 106-F rc40 error. Maybe it's related to how these data sets are cataloged. Oh well, an IPL only takes a few minutes. Thank you. Paul Schuster

Re: SETPROG LNKLST--problem or procedural error?

2007-05-30 Thread Craddock, Chris
I tried some of the suggestions here (stoprestart initiator, SETPROG UPDATE) and still got the same 106-F rc40 error. Did you by any chance try to submit the job with a steplib pointing directly to the new library. Just wondering if by happenstance that (new) library is broken. CC

Re: CBPDO versus ServerPac for DB2 maintenance

2007-05-30 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Mon, 28 May 2007 16:12:24 +0100, William Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our SysProg uses ServerPac for everything, but I'm wondering if it's possible to get a report of holddata that's relevant between the level of the previous DB2 and the new DB2. Sounds like you want to define the old

List of CICS transaction

2007-05-30 Thread Dave Schaeffer
Hello everyone, I'm tring to get a list of our CICS transactions. Is there a way to run a batch job that would give the results of a: CEMT INQ TRAN Thanks!! Dave Schaeffer -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: File Processing Query

2007-05-30 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Paul Knudsen wrote: Looking for ideas for a file processing problem. The client can receive one or more data files on their server each day. The mainframe needs to run an FTP followed by a file-edit for each. How might this best be accomplished? Not 100% sure what the process is. What is

Re: List of CICS transaction

2007-05-30 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I'm tring to get a list of our CICS transactions. Is there a way to run a batch job that would give the results of a: CEMT INQ TRAN Thanks!! Dave Schaeffer You can run RDO in batch. This will not tell you what transactions are actually

Re: ISPF list data set attributes?

2007-05-30 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/30/2007 3:45:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it restricts Line length to 150. I wonder what the rationale? 1403-N1? ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not

2007-05-30 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Paul, I don't agree. When you transfer data in ASCII mode, unless you tell ftp to *not* add CRLF to the record, each record will get a CRLF added to it as it is stored. This is evidenced by your display having 3 lines for FOO3 and 4 lines for FOO4. On the other hand, when you ask ftp to

Re: Secure Tn3270

2007-05-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tue, 29 May 2007 14:05:25 -0500, Ray Prevott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just getting started on this. Any advice out there? I am on z/OS 1.7 and PCOM 5.8. Hope to use RACF to manage certificates, but I don't have a clue as to what kind I might need. Any help appreciated. While not strictly