Re: How to obtain a file bigger than 80 chars from two inputs file

2011-07-19 Thread Hilario G.
Hello Michael, I follow your example, but didn't work. The error is produce on second sentence COPY: ICE600I 0 DFSORT ICETOOL UTILITY RUN STARTED ICE650I 0 VISIT http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort FOR ICETOOL PAPERS, EXAMPL ICE632I 0 SOURCE FOR ICETOOL STATEMENTS: TOOLIN ICE630I 0 MODE IN

Re: How to obtain a file bigger than 80 chars from two inputs file

2011-07-19 Thread Martin Packer
Note your output messages are truncated in your post. For example EXAMPL. :-) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, Mainframe Performance Consultant, zChampion Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog:

Main memory usage

2011-07-19 Thread Chokalingam Thangavelu
Hi, We wanted to find out the Main memory usage of our production LPAR for a particular day. We have allocated 15GB of main memory and we wanted to find out this 15GB is enough or more memory need to added. We have printed RMF Paging activity report but is there any specific parameter needs to

Re: How to obtain a file bigger than 80 chars from two inputs file

2011-07-19 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 02:12:04 -0500, Hilario G. wrote: I follow your example, but didn't work. The error is produce on second sentence COPY: May you help me ? Hilario, Frank Yaeger answered your question twice: 8 Jul 2011:

TMON CHP Exception Setting

2011-07-19 Thread Alex
Hi, Everyone. We want to have ASG TMON for z/OS monitoring the utilization of Channel path IDs defined in a parallel sysplex. Because we are currently using VTS (Virtual Tape Server) to virtualize 3490E tapes. All production LPARs within the parallel sysplex can have access to the VTS tapes.

Automatic email of condition codes and stats

2011-07-19 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi all, I have a small dilemma. I have designed and written a semi-new facility that automatically sends the task condition codes (including the max CC) and stats via email. I currently have it implemented and in Alpha testing in two modes. We have provided this via a manual method (via

Re: Automatic email of condition codes and stats

2011-07-19 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Brian Westerman wrote: My dilemma is that I have been told that we will not be using both methods and we have to choose one or the other. I asked everyone here and got almost an even three-way split (option 1, option 2, and whats an exit?), so I thought I would go out to the list and see how

Re: Automatic email of condition codes and stats

2011-07-19 Thread Richards, Robert B.
For those what's an exit?, show them the exit ('door') :-D Or as my boss likes to say Give me some of that money back! :-) Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Explanation of EUT/FRR

2011-07-19 Thread Peter Relson
My understanding was that the EUT bit in PSA was added because the FRR stack was not saved. Perhaps it was not saved in EUT mode and the bit caused even EUT's to have their FRR stack saved? You had mentioned in an earlier append that there was no (potential) CPU switch if locked. Not true for

Re: Automatic email of condition codes and stats

2011-07-19 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Just one addition: We put the JOBLOGs for the important daily backup etc jobs into a special SYSOUT class, and a JES writer sends this JOBLOGS automatically to the originating user On 7/19/2011 11:48 AM, Brian Westerman wrote: Hi all, I have a small dilemma. I have designed and written

SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread John Dawes
G'Day,   A tape dsn was expired by CA-1 and is in SCRATCH status.  I cataloged the tape dsn.  However, when I try to REPRO the tape to another dsn SMS is preventing me from using the tape:   IGD330I ERROR OCCURRED DURING CBRXLCS PROCESSING-  VOLUME REQUESTED BY SPECIFIC VOLUME

Re: Lines, Bars and ... mini-bars???

2011-07-19 Thread Peter Relson
The z/OS 1.13 support (or lack of support if you choose to consider it that) is entirely software-limited. There are no hardware limitations involved here. For example, the hardware does support ETE's with 8-byte entry point addresses. And of course the SVC new PSW is 16 bytes and has

Re: Automatic email of condition codes and stats

2011-07-19 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
On 7/19/2011 11:48 AM, Brian Westerman wrote: Hi all, I have a small dilemma. I have designed and written a semi-new facility that automatically sends the task condition codes (including the max CC) and stats via email. I currently have it implemented and in Alpha testing in two modes. We

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Russell Witt
When the tape went SCRATCH to CA-1, OAM was also notified. IBM's rule is that a tape in SCRATCH status cannot be called by specific volser. You need to change the status within ISMF from SCRATCH to PRIVATE and then you will be able to REPRO the tape. I would also suggest you change the expiration

NYTimes: IBM, helped by new mainframe sales, exceeds analysts' expectations

2011-07-19 Thread john gilmore
This morning's New York Times, which perhaps not quite all of you see, contains a piece attributing IBM's unexpectedly good financial results to sales of new mainframes. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread John Dawes
Russell,   Thanks for the advice.  I have never done this before.  I checked in ISMF.  I chose Option 10 then  option 3 (Tape library), however I do not find an opton to change the status of a tape. Could you tell me how I can go about it?   Thanks for your patience. --- On Tue, 19/7/11,

SV: Automatic email of condition codes and stats

2011-07-19 Thread Thomas Berg
Technically I haven't any preference opinion for Your options. But You said: I have found that sites don't like putting in exits if they can get around it. This definitely sounds to me it excludes option 2.   Regards, Thomas Berg _ Thomas Berg  

Re: Where are J2EE components located in java ?

2011-07-19 Thread Chase, John
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Re: running Assembler I/O macro code as AMODE 31, RMODE ANY

2011-07-19 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 07/18/11 18:26, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 7/18/2011 12:55 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Are you saying that the processor starts fetching instructions for the branch prior to executing it? Absolutely! There is a multi-stage pipeline that allows the processor to get ahead of the current

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 04:43:31 -0700, John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au wrote: G'Day,   A tape dsn was expired by CA-1 and is in SCRATCH status.  I cataloged the tape dsn.  However, when I try to REPRO the tape to another dsn SMS is preventing me from using the tape:   IGD330I ERROR OCCURRED

Re: NYTimes: IBM, helped by new mainframe sales, exceeds analysts' expectations

2011-07-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
john_w_gilm...@msn.com (john gilmore) writes: This morning's New York Times, which perhaps not quite all of you see, contains a piece attributing IBM's unexpectedly good financial results to sales of new mainframes. from bloomberg/businessweek IBM Gains After Raising Profit Forecast on

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread John Dawes
Mark,   I tried your suggestion, however when I type PRIVATE in the USE ATTR field it keeps going back to scratch.  I am sure I am doing something wrong.  Where do I type PRIVATE? --- On Tue, 19/7/11, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: From: Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com Subject: Re: SMS

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread John McKown
I use the following JCL to change the volume back to PRIVATE: //STEP000 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * ALTER V292463 VOLUMEENTRY - STORAGEGROUP(SGVTAPE2) - NULLIFY(ERRORSTATUS) - LOCATION(LIBRARY) LIBNAME($VTS0002) /* You need to change 292463 to your volser

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 05:43:15 -0700, John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Mark,   I tried your suggestion, however when I type PRIVATE in the USE ATTR field it keeps going back to scratch.  I am sure I am doing something wrong.  Where do I type PRIVATE? From option 2.3 (MOUNTABLE TAPE),

Re: Main memory usage

2011-07-19 Thread Staller, Allan
snip We wanted to find out the Main memory usage of our production LPAR for a particular day. We have allocated 15GB of main memory and we wanted to find out this 15GB is enough or more memory need to added. We have printed RMF Paging activity report but is there any specific parameter needs to

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread John Dawes
Mark,   I tried out your suggestion.  I even activated the SMS environment.  However when I check in CA-1 it still shows the tape as scratch.  Is there anything else I need to do? --- On Tue, 19/7/11, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: From: Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com Subject: Re: SMS

Re: How to obtain a file bigger than 80 chars from two inputs file

2011-07-19 Thread Hilario G.
Hello Michael, Pardon for the previos e-mail. Your example runs correctly. I adjust some values and now it work. Kind Regards. Hilario G. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread John Dawes
Mark,   I found my error.  I did not enter the STORAGE GROUP name.  All is fine.  A very big thank you.   Thanks John for your input.  Alls well that ends well. --- On Tue, 19/7/11, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: From: Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE To:

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Jonathan Goossen
Changing the status in ISMF has no effect on CA1. To change it in CA1, use the CA1 panels to update the EXPDT to a future date. Thank you and have a Terrific day! Jonathan Goossen, ACS, CL Tape Specialist ACT Mainframe Storage Group Personal: 651-361-4541 Department Support Line: 651-361-

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread John McKown
John, Even an easier way. Go into CA-1's ISPF interface and change the expiration date to tomorrow. This will take it out of scratch status in CA-1. Now you need to run CA-1's CTSSYNC program to update the SMS status. JCL: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=CTSSYNC //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD * VERIFY SYNC

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:08:56 -0700, John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Mark,   I tried out your suggestion.  I even activated the SMS environment.  However when I check in CA-1 it still shows the tape as scratch.  Is there anything else I need to do? CA-1 TMC is a separate entity from

restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread John McKown
I'm working on a project which involves converting a lot of VSAM files. So far, I've restricted myself to using PDSes and REXX. Everybody in my group (mainframe sysprogs) understands these. But, for my own convenience, I'd like to use UNIX files. Why? Because I can create really long file names,

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread John Dawes
John,   Fantastic.  I will try this out the next time I have this situation.  The tape librarian had changed the status in TMS so I was too late.    Thanks a million. --- On Tue, 19/7/11, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: From: John McKown joa...@swbell.net Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread John Dawes
Thanks Mark.  All's clear.  Thanks for bailing me out. --- On Tue, 19/7/11, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: From: Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Tuesday, 19 July, 2011, 11:34 PM On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:08:56 -0700, John

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Why don't you teach you group to Unix ? ;-) If you don't want to keep this project for you, I would consider the 44 byte long MVS dataset names. I always wanted to have an option, to assign long , descriptive alias names to MVS datasets. Maybe the jol can do this or the xjcl. On

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:21:58 -0500, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: John, Even an easier way. Go into CA-1's ISPF interface and change the expiration date to tomorrow. This will take it out of scratch status in CA-1. Now you need to run CA-1's CTSSYNC program to update the SMS status. JCL:

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
And if anybody wonders *why* z/OS does not allow you to do a specific mount of a SCRTCH tape: Your SCRTCH tapes will probably have a 'Fast Ready Category' assiged in your VTS. This means, that when you request a tape from such a category, you intend to write new data on it and don't care about

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread McKown, John
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. One of my tasks is to teach the others in the group some UNIX. But I don't have any guidance on how much to teach. Just enough to do what is needed? Or enough to really use UNIX facilities to make like easier? I guess my boss will

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Jonathan Goossen
In the IBM VTS, I tell ISMF to make a tape private, and then I can access the virtual tapes data. (IE: it takes it out of fast ready status.) I once wanted to clear the contents of a virtual scratch tape and ejected and reinserted it. After reinserting, it still showed the old data. Thank you

Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands

2011-07-19 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:10 PM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 14:45 -0700, Sam Siegel wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Wayne Driscoll wdri...@us.ibm.com wrote: In my 20 plus year career I have seen a lot more people with mainframe backgrounds expressing a

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Jonathan Goossen
Although the utility refers to the 3495/3494, it talks to OAM. If the library is designed to work with OAM, it may pass the data to the library. But in any case it will pass it to ISMF. We use it for tape in our MDL. It updates ISMF, but we run an extra utility for the MDL to sync it to the

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:06:05 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: And if anybody wonders *why* z/OS does not allow you to do a specific mount of a SCRTCH tape: Your SCRTCH tapes will probably have a 'Fast Ready Category' assiged in your VTS. This means, that when you

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread Mike Wawiorko
Sounds OK, but does your site have well-practiced backup, restore and DR processes for Unix files? Regards, Mike Wawiorko -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: 19 July 2011 14:35 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote in message news:1292462023506289.wa.markmzelden@bama.ua.edu... On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:06:05 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: And if anybody wonders *why* z/OS does not allow you to do a specific mount of a SCRTCH tape: Your SCRTCH

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:04:00 -0500, McKown, John wrote: One of my tasks is to teach the others in the group some UNIX. But I don't have any guidance on how much to teach. Just enough to do what is needed? Or enough to really use UNIX facilities to make like easier? It sounds like you will be

Thanks for the reviews; the paper is now published on our website

2011-07-19 Thread Steve Comstock
Thanks to all the folks who read my new paper, Setting Up the IBM HTTP Server. And special thanks for all the comments. I went from version 1.1 to version 1.4 of the document in a single day! The latest version is now available for free from our website; go to:

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-07-19 16:06, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM pisze: And if anybody wonders *why* z/OS does not allow you to do a specific mount of a SCRTCH tape: Your SCRTCH tapes will probably have a 'Fast Ready Category' assiged in your VTS. This means, that when you request a tape from such a category,

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote in message news:4e2596f3.6080...@bremultibank.com.pl... W dniu 2011-07-19 16:06, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM pisze: And if anybody wonders *why* z/OS does not allow you to do a specific mount of a SCRTCH tape: Your SCRTCH tapes will probably have a 'Fast

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote in message news:9592662387995973.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@bama.ua.edu... On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:04:00 -0500, McKown, John wrote: One of my tasks is to teach the others in the group some UNIX. But I don't have any guidance on how much to teach.

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread John McKown
Not really. What we do is DFDSS full volume backups and restores. We don't even attempt to do backups of individual UNIX files. We use OpenTech's DRXpert to do incremental backups of z/OS datasets. We regard UNIX as z/OS's red haired step child (as my boss puts it - he's a red head). On Tue,

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread John McKown
I guess that so long as I use UNIX in a transient way, then no big deal. It would be if I tried to leave stuff in UNIX for a long time that others would get cranky. One problem (which is likely due to a bad approach on my part) that I have with PDSes right now is you cannot mod onto the end of a

restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread john gilmore
Your colleagues need to learn about UNIX, and you should take every opportunity to teach them what you know about it. Like everyone else, they will learn best when either 1) they see a clear reason/need to do so or 2) they find something appealing/cool/sweet about what they are learning.

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread McKown, John
Thanks - I'll look at aliases. You mentioned the Binder, but these are text files, not executable programs. Also, if it makes a difference, I am on z/OS 1.10 with little chance of upgrading anytime soon due to a problem with an OEM product for which we dropped support (to save money). pay me

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-07-19 16:50, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM pisze: [...] That is different from CA-1. You only need autority to read the tape, but CA-1 does not prevent you from reading it while it is SCRTCH. Well... That means that anyone who is authorized toread the scratch can read the tape, regardless

Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands

2011-07-19 Thread Jim Thomas
Ummm say doc (switching to Bugs Bunny accent) ... would that be why Microsoft got a patent for PDSs ?? .. a concept that's been around even before Microsoft. From the 'Summary Of The Invention' for U.S. patent no. 6,594,674, 'System and method for creating multiple files from a single source

Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands

2011-07-19 Thread McKown, John
I'm going to patent the big toe. Everybody who walks must pay me a royality. UPTSO is full of fools and failed engineers. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone *

Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands

2011-07-19 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir, ROFL !! ... oh good ... it's just your big toes ... I'm going to patent all my toes and even my fingers (in case I get slapped on the wrist) :-) Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)

Re: Main memory usage

2011-07-19 Thread Hal Merritt
I think the ROT (rule of thumb) is that zero or near zero paging means that there is ample real storage. If there is paging, then zero or close demand page in rates indicate that there is no degradation. Demand page in is synchronous which means that some workload(s) have to wait. Page out

Re: Main memory usage

2011-07-19 Thread Fabio Massimo Ottaviani
Chokalingam dealing with memory is a bit more complex than with other resources. I wrote a white paper about that 1 year ago. If you are interested I can send it to you. Let me know ... Fabio At 10:25 19/07/2011, you wrote: Hi, We wanted to find out the Main memory usage of our production

Re: Automatic email of condition codes and stats

2011-07-19 Thread Hal Merritt
Personally I believe that exits are very expensive and introduce risk. But so are long running tasks, and especially those looking at sensitive data. Both are popular audit targets. In addition, this sounds like one of those gee-whiz things that is a fad that soon falls into disuse.

Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands

2011-07-19 Thread Schumacher, Otto
Easier for whom? I have not seen anything developed in Unix that communicates with z/OS made easier by the implementation of Unix - more complex yes, less visable yes, error messages none available, platform portable yes, but not easier. I do not find Unix commands easier than JES2 commands I

Re: SMS QUESTION - TAPE

2011-07-19 Thread Jonathan Goossen
CA1 controls access to tape by DSN. If you have authority for the DSN, you can read it as scratch. CA1 also controls who has the ability to read using BLP and foreign which is another way to bypass read scratch tapes. These are the main security controls for CA1, but there are several others.

Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Gary DiPillo
I have run into a situation I have never seen before and did not think was possible. I must be missing something, but I haven't got a clue as to what. I have a batch program (A) that is re-entrant. However, statically linked to it is a program (B) that is not re-entrant. When this program B

Re: How to control in an JCL that a file is empty or not exist ?

2011-07-19 Thread Cris Hernandez #9
how about making sure the file is created? and put a header record in so it ain't empty? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Skip Robinson
RENT is honored--i.e. failed if violated--only if the load library is APF authorized. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Gary DiPillo

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:50:20 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: RENT is honored--i.e. failed if violated--only if the load library is APF authorized. From: z/OS V1R12.0 MVS Initialization and Tuning Reference

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
We ran into this a number of years ago. Even if a load module is linked RENT, it is not loaded into fetch-only storage unless it is loaded from an APF-authorized library. Normal APF authorization rules apply, so ANY non-authorized library in the STEPLIB or JOBLIB etc. voids the APF

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Gary DiPillo
Skip, Thanks. I never new that. And it also explains why my customer did get the 0C4. His module, which calls my module, is APF authorized, but his calling module was not re-entrant. So the linked stub did not fail, but the dynamically called module did. I guess I have more reading to do

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Gary DiPillo
Peter, That's pretty much my sad story. Passed my testing. Customer found the bug for me. :( Gary On 07/19/2011 3:57 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: We ran into this a number of years ago. Even if a load module is linked RENT, it is not loaded into fetch-only storage unless it is loaded

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Wayne Driscoll
MVS will only load modules marked as re-entrant into key zero storage if they are loaded from an APF authorized library. Modules loaded from non-authorized libraries are loaded into program key (usually 8) key. Note that it really isn't the library that is authorized, it is the full

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Gary DiPillo
Gil, Thanks for the pointer. Since it is available in my V1R10 system, I may turn it on for my testing. It would be a good thing to be sure that what is marked RENT really is, 'cause customers will use things in ways we may not have anticipated. Regards, Gary DiPillo On 07/19/2011 3:55 PM,

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Skip Robinson
This one touches my heart. As a brand new system programmer, I did the same thing. In my case I inadvertently used JCL that specified RENT,REFR even though I knew the program was neither. Testing went great. Then got my first midnight phone call. Baptism by pager. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Gibney, Dave
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4 On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:50:20 -0700, Skip

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:39:43 -0500, Gary DiPillo wrote: Can someone suggest how these programs that are marked as re-entrant can be loaded and executed without error even though they are storing data within themselves? Classically, unless the program is loaded from an APF-authorized library,

SMPE how to question

2011-07-19 Thread John Norgauer
IBM has asked me to do a LOAD MODULE REBUILD for IEAVNPF9 which lives in SYS1.NUCLEUS. Any one done this before and if so, how do I do it? Thanks. John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB

Re: SMPE how to question

2011-07-19 Thread Starr, Alan
I would try LINK LMODS(IEAVNPF9) CHECK. If that looks good, try it without check. Cheers, Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Norgauer Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SMPE how

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread Skip Robinson
I have a question no one seemed to ask: why the war on VSAM? There was time back in the Dark Ages when nobody trusted VSAM, but I think we're past that. It's free. It's pretty versatile considering that you can chose between sequential data or indexed data with just a few definitional

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Richard L Peurifoy
On 7/19/2011 3:39 PM, Gary DiPillo wrote: My presumptuous assumption was that RENT was always honored when specified. Not the first time I've been WRONG!! I only need to persuade myself to turn on REFRPROT, and I will do just that once I'm sure I can get out of that choice safely and easily

Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands

2011-07-19 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip In my 20 plus year career I have seen a lot more people with mainframe backgrounds expressing a willingness to learn and integrate usage of non-mainframe technology than I have seen people from an

Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands

2011-07-19 Thread Hale, Bob
I agree with Otto. What is so tough about creating JCL? Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Schumacher, Otto Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively

Re: SMPE how to question

2011-07-19 Thread John Norgauer
Thanks Alan, Worked great. John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004

Re: SMPE how to question

2011-07-19 Thread Ed Finnell
With PDS command do HIST on member name to see last PTF applied then with SMP/E do APPLY CHECK S(ptf) and see what damage is caused. If it's not too bad APPLY S(ptf) REDO. In a message dated 7/19/2011 3:37:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu writes: and if

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 7/19/2011 1:37 PM, Gary DiPillo wrote: We don't need to discuss RENT and REFR, but I certainly need to read up on them again. I'm sure that what I remember and what is true have long ago drifted apart. REFR modules are not allowed to update themselves. It's widely believed that RENT

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:16:26 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r12.ieae200/progref.htm Actually, it not that I think it is no good, I think it's a long time coming. The problem is that I also know of at least one program

Re: SMPE how to question

2011-07-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:37:33 -0700, John Norgauer wrote: IBM has asked me to do a LOAD MODULE REBUILD for IEAVNPF9 which lives in SYS1.NUCLEUS. Any one done this before and if so, how do I do it? Not I. It's a command, in SMPCNTL (not SMPPTFIN). Now, at least one of us needs to read the

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread John McKown
Not converting VSAM to something else. Doing some mass migrations, one file at a time, from Data Accelerator compression to SMS compression. Which requires: (1) EXPORT vsam cluster; (2) remove from Data Accelerator; (3) add to SMS compression (using special data class); (4) IMPORT the vsam

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread John McKown
Just to be my usual self. In general in CS, reentrant does not mean non-self modifying. Many programs which do not modify themselves are still not reentrant due to uncoordinated updating of shared resources. Likewise, if done properly a self modifying program can still be reentrant. ref:

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Scott Rowe
Actually, at the time the standard was set, there was no such thing as APF. On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:16:26 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-19 Thread Skip Robinson
Since this is an interim state and therefore temporary, you're entitled to do it in the way that makes the most sense to you. In the meantime, just be especially careful when crossing the street so as to dodge the proverbial bus. ;-) . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Gibney, Dave
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4 On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:16:26 +, Gibney,

HSM MCDS DCOLLECT issue

2011-07-19 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
Problem Statement: We are attempting to estimate the number of compressed ML1 and ML2 data sets that will fit on EAV volumes. For ML1 data sets, field UMDSIZE from IDCAMS DCOLLECT layout appears to be reporting with reasonable numbers. For ML2 the number does not seem close at all. Test

Re: BDT and PDSEs

2011-07-19 Thread Ed Gould
John: Thanks for the good information. I steered my client away from BDT when it was first announced as being to expensive and did not meet all our needs as not all the shops we talked to were IBM /or/ they were not likely to buy it as it was expensive to small shops. We ended up with the

APF and the initiator (IEFIIC)

2011-07-19 Thread Starr, Alan
Hi List, The subject of an APF-authorized program invoking a program that runs non-APF-authorized has been discussed many times here. The admonishment not to turn JSCBAUTH on, after having turned it off, has been repeated many times. I wonder how the initiator manages to invoke PGM=apfpgm

Re: SMPE how to question

2011-07-19 Thread Jim Thomas
LINK LMODS ++MOD . Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, July

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:46:20 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r12.ieae200/progref.htm Actually, it not that I think it is no good, I think it's a long time coming. The problem is that I also know of at least one

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Gibney, Dave
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4 On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:46:20 +, Gibney,

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 19 July 2011 16:46, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:16:26 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: So although I think it's better that reentrant marked modules actually be reentrant and might have been inclined to enforce that had I had a say in the mythical man month

Re: APF and the initiator (IEFIIC)

2011-07-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 19 July 2011 20:59, Starr, Alan alan_st...@calpers.ca.gov wrote: The subject of an APF-authorized program invoking a program that runs non-APF-authorized has been discussed many times here. The admonishment not to turn JSCBAUTH on, after having turned it off, has been repeated many times.

Re: PR/SM Logical CP issues

2011-07-19 Thread Alex
Hi Allan, Thanks for your reply! I still have some questions. Please see below for details. snip Our CPC (2094-S18-708) now has 8 Physical CP and has 1 production LPAR, 2 maintenance LPARs, 2 ICF LPARs and 2 test LPARs running at the moment. Currently, all LPARs are equipped with shared CPs and

Check out June 2011 | TOP500 Supercomputing Sites

2011-07-19 Thread Ed Finnell
_June 2011 | TOP500 Supercomputing Sites_ (http://www.top500.org/lists/2011/06) That's a whollottaflops... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

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