Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: Paul Gilmartin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 11:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Date Time in JCL On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:42:32 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: Let the customer decide what they want: SYSTMEG

Why is there JOB scope for DSN ENQ's anyway?

2007-05-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Picking up on something Paul G. said in another thread, I realized I have never known *why* the system issues JOB scope ENQ's on DSN's. I do realize that it is most probably to avoid an ENQ deadly embrace somewhere along the line, but for the life of me (well, and maybe because it's Friday) I

Re: How do I find the SPANNED indicator in a VB record?

2007-05-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
You can start here (watch the line-wrap): http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2D430/3.1.3.2? SHELF=DGT2BK41DT=20040624112123 From that page, the third byte of the RDW for each record is the segment control byte, only the last two bits of which are significant: Figure

Re: How do I find the SPANNED indicator in a VB record?

2007-05-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
: Paul Gilmartin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How do I find the SPANNED indicator in a VB record? On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:56:46 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: Snipped Something like this (untested): SORT FIELDS=COPY INCLUDE

Re: How do I find the SPANNED indicator in a VB record?

2007-05-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Frank, won't the RDW's be processed for each segment independently if the SORTIN DD has an override for RECFM=V or VB, bypassing the Spanned processing? -Original Message- From: Frank Yaeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Re: LRECL of Spanned Records

2007-05-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
z/OS 1.6 JCL manual, under LRECL subparameter says: The value of bytes is: 1 to 32,760 for non-VSAM data sets. Peter -Original Message- From: Paul Gilmartin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: LRECL of Spanned Records

Re: Top 10 software install gripes

2007-05-14 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Bruce, I don't want to go up against you in a DASD knowledge battle (I know I would lose), but my copy of IBM 3390 Direct Access Storage Reference Summary, GX26-4577-2, August 1990, Table 2 (3390 mode), page 10, says that 255 to 288 byte blocks with keys of 1-22 bytes are max 45 to the track (not

Re: Top 10 software install gripes

2007-05-11 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Me three. SYSDA works here all the time, and at least at one small service bureau I am aware of, and last but not least at a very large telecom firm with giant IBM hardware installations all over the place. Personally, I thought SYSALLDA went out with MVT, but then I was never an MVS sysprog.

Re: jcl with dates as part of the DSNAME.

2007-05-11 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I told Clem about this in a private email, and I have already received a reply from him: Apparently his ISP lost some things for him and he will recover them, perhaps as soon as tomorrow. As he is in Aussie-land, I'm not quite sure if that means Sat. or Sun. EDT, but give him a bit of time and

Re: OEM software electronic download report card

2007-05-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Tom, Do I read your complaint correctly, the Mobius JCL expected to be able to run the FTP client on the mainframe to retrieve the file from your PC? Or did it just have a comment telling you to FTP from the PC to the mainframe (a much more normal procedure)? Just curious. Peter -Original

Re: How to measure actual usage of BLSR buffers?

2007-05-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the CBT pointer, but since I am not a sysprog here, I have zero chance of being able to use an exit like that for myself. They do already have one running here that seems to have the same kind of data you describe, or at least the I/O stuff anyway. I can see reductions in EXCP counts

Re: How to measure actual usage of BLSR buffers?

2007-05-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Followup re: VSAM LSR statistics for the archive: It appears that VSAM LSR keeps certain statistics for each buffer pool from the time it is created to the time it is deleted. You can get the current values by using SHOWCB with an ACB that is already OPEN using LSR and that buffer pool. These

Re: Measuring Use of BLSR Buffers

2007-05-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the pointer, Ed, but I can't use SMB because I am not dealing with Extended datasets. As noted in the info you quoted below, the requirements to use SMB include a requirement to use SMS storage and Extended format. I am using SMS storage but not Extended format here. At the moment

Re: Measuring Use of BLSR Buffers

2007-05-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
The argument here appears to be that Extended permits Compressed, and Compressed uses (very) scarce CPU resources. I am given to understand you can't limit the usage of Compressed after allowing Extended, but I have not done my own RTFM to verify or refute that. -Original Message- From:

Re: Measuring Use of BLSR Buffers

2007-05-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Two things: 1. I have been told that REPRO is a good usage of compressed data -- repeated sequential access of any kind gives good results because each buffer is uncompressed only once. OTOH, nearly random access and compressed are not good use of compressed data (i.e., higher CPU utilization

Re: How to measure actual usage of BLSR buffers?

2007-05-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
provided useful information to users. And a report option for WTO of EOJ stats would have been nice-to-have as well. And none of it would have required GTF. Peter -Original Message- From: Farley, Peter x23353 [mailto:Peter(dot)Farley(at)BROADRIDGE(dot)COM] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:48

Re: How to measure actual usage of BLSR buffers?

2007-05-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Interesting! I had previously been under the impression that BLSR was in the picture from OPEN to CLOSE, positioned somewhere inside VSAM in between the user RPL and the actual I/O operation to read or write a buffer. So, my question should have been: What statistics can I get from VSAM LSR

Re: How to measure actual usage of BLSR buffers?

2007-05-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Sure I could, in my copious spare time... and of course the reporting would be user-optional. Yes, enough reduction of elapsed time with reasonable CPU increase is the ultimate goal of all of this shilly-shallying around. All I have been asking is if there were any actual measurements that could

Re: How to measure actual usage of BLSR buffers?

2007-05-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the idea. A question though -- where exactly in the SDSF panels would I see the pages of core used by the job step -- my SDSF DA panel only has a column for REAL storage (SDSF manual says that column represents real page frames). That would only give me the working-set size, right?

Re: How to measure actual usage of BLSR buffers?

2007-05-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks Ted! That actually works for me -- Now I have something new to look at! Peter -Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 6:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to measure actual usage of BLSR buffers? my SDSF DA panel

Re: Measuring Use of BLSR Buffers

2007-05-08 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
My example was not necessarily reality. You are assuming the file has more CI's than specified buffers. I can't discuss details, but for my situation sometimes that is true and sometimes it isn't true, and I am trying to achieve a reasonable balance. I can't do that without measurements that

Re: 27x132?

2006-08-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Your eyes are obviously not presbyopic yet. Trying to read the font in which 62x132 displays on a 14 laptop screen is actually hurtful, especially to eyes already tired from all-day screen-reading. And it's not a whole lot easier on a 17 second monitor, either. Unless you've got one of those

Re: Allociated Dataset Question

2006-08-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Yes, but your ability to issue that command reveals your privileged authority level. Non-authorized users can't do that, and most users and programmers are non-authorized. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 17,

Re: Old product tapes

2006-08-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Owe something to LISP? Not even close, IMHO. LISP has often been (correctly) described as parenthesis h**l. I believe its adherents refer to it as a functional language (i.e., every frellin' thing you do is a function, requiring arguments in parentheses!). Rexx is *so* much nicer than LISP...

LEASM modules limited to 4K DSA why?

2006-08-08 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I'm hoping some of the IBM LE folk who lurk here can answer a question I had over on the CICS-L list. CICS TS 3.1 introduced the XOPTS(LEASM) parameter to permit LE-compliant Assembler programs to be the frst program in a CICS transaction. The CICS Assembler translator and macros produce an LE

Re: LEASM modules limited to 4K DSA why?

2006-08-08 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks Roland, yes, that I know. The discussion on CICS-L covered that as well. The real question is what happens during LE initialization of your LEASM main program when your DSA/DFHEISTG size is 4K bytes. Does CICS LE initialization crap out, or does some other nasty surprise await your

Re: Does DDNAME=? override SUBSYS=?

2006-01-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I agree, BLSR is a useful critter. I am, in fact, pretty familiar with it, having introduced its use into production jobs in my group to help performance. As to why I need to remove it, there may be a storage overlay issue in my massively multitasking assembler application code, OR there may be

Re: Does DDNAME=? override SUBSYS=?

2006-01-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
, Farley, Peter x23353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Environment is z/OS 1.6. The Fine Manual specifically says that SUBSYS=? Overrides DDNAME=?, but makes no mention of whether DDNAME=? overrides SUBSYS=?. Also no mention for DSN=?. DDNAME=x overrides everything not consistent with the target DD

FYI: S0C4 at CLOSE SVC [was:RE: Does DDNAME=? override SUBSYS=?]

2006-01-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Solution to S0C4 at CLOSE SVC found: Always code STRNO=(# I/O subtasks)+1 in your JCL and you'll avoid the problem. Dynamically acquired strings (default is STRNO=2) get freed at subtask termination, leading to S0C4 at CLOSE. Thanks to all for help on SUBSYS override. Peter -Original

Does DDNAME=? override SUBSYS=?

2006-01-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Environment is z/OS 1.6. The Fine Manual specifically says that SUBSYS=? Overrides DDNAME=?, but makes no mention of whether DDNAME=? overrides SUBSYS=?. Also no mention for DSN=?. Situation is, I have a PROC with DD statements containing only SUBSYS=? Parameter, and I need to override these

Re: Converting TOD to Local Time

2005-12-13 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
SYS1.MACLIB(STCKCONV) since a long time ago... before z/OS, at least. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Converting TOD to Local Time Where is STKCONV macro

Re: 'ALLOCATE' a data set in my TSO/E session

2005-12-08 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
A batch job and your TSO session are executing in different address spaces and thus they are INDEPENDENT of each other -- what you do in one of them *usually* has no impact on the other one. The usual exception is if one of the two allocates a file EXCLUSIVELY (DISP=OLD), then the other one

Re: 'ALLOCATE' a data set in my TSO/E session

2005-12-08 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Lizette, the default DISP for existing datasets is OLD,KEEP, not OLD,DELETE. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 'ALLOCATE' a data set in my TSO/E session

Re: 'ALLOCATE' a data set in my TSO/E session

2005-12-08 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
that is created and deleted during a step. So the default when not coded at all is DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE) Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Thursday, December 08

Re: Using symbolic in JCL

2005-12-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
, Farley, Peter x23353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snipped Huh? You can have your symbolics resolution in your application at run time. You want the resolution in the JCL to reflect execution time? That may be weeks after the JCL is processed. I don't pretend to know what part of JCL processing is done

Re: Using symbolic in JCL

2005-12-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Gil, No, I made no mistake. I do understand that JCL is (in effect) a compiled language. Even a compiled language can call a dynamic subroutine to get a value when it needs it. But yes, I do expect IBM could implement deferred evaluation of environmental values (i.e., symbolics in the context

Re: displaying hexadecimal content of a field in COBOL

2005-12-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
One small typo in the code below: The 2nd constant in the INSPECT statement has the replacement C and D reversed: INSPECT WS-HEX-OUTPUT CONVERTING X'FAFBFCFDFEFF' TO 'ABDCEF'. == Note: DC not CD Should be instead: INSPECT WS-HEX-OUTPUT

Re: Using symbolic in JCL

2005-11-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Walt, this has been an interesting thread. For an ancient like myself who grew up with MFT/MVT uni-processor systems, it has been an education to learn that JCL Conversion and Interpretation are no longer handled in one place, much less that Execution is a separate third phase. That these are

Re: IBMLINK News

2005-11-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thank you for a non-IBMLINK way to see what everyone is discussing. Many of us don't have access to IBMLINK. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLINK

Re: Machine Type

2005-11-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Something wacky with your workstation or your network firewall then, because I get to an IBM page whose title is Processor version codes and SRM constants with a lot of other content. It looks like you only got the first 20 or 30 lines of the web page source code. There's a lot more than that

Re: Passing PARM to COBOL.

2005-11-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
PARM='RPTSTG/DATAHERE' (for CBLOPTS OFF or other than COBOL) or PARM='DATAHERE/RPTSTG' (for COBOL with CBLOPTS ON) would request an LE Storage Report at EOJ. See the LE reference manual for (many) more LE runtime options. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Program exhausting below the line storage

2005-11-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
What language? COBOL? What compiler version? Help depends on the details. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Program exhausting below the line storage We

Re: COBOL Program exhausting below the line storage

2005-11-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
With such a current compiler release, just recompiling with the COBOL option DATA(31) should put your working storage above the line. Unless your IDMS requires DATA(24), in which case you have no choice but to reduce the number of buffers assigned to each QSAM file (remember, system default is 5

Re: PKZIP for mainframe

2005-11-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Can that invocation of IEBGENER be done from REXX called under a shell, and if so is address TSO required first? Or can this only be accomplished from TSO/batch REXX? Thanks for helping cure my ignorance. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: F against a REXX STC

2005-11-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
More specifically, google for QEDIT +assembler +MVS and look at the WAITREXX page from Xephon. Just googling QEDIT gets you to the semware.com page for the PC file editor QEDIT, now named The Semware Editor, a fine tool indeed (disclaimer: I have owned/used/recommended it since PCDOS days) but

Re: PKZIP for mainframe

2005-11-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the references! Education is a wonderful thing. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 12:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PKZIP for mainframe In a recent note, Farley, Peter x23353

Re: ZIP SOFTWARE for Mainframe

2005-11-02 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
http://www.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/Zip.html#MVS -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 2:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: ZIP SOFTWARE for Mainframe Does anyone know of any software/freeware for the

Re: Module description

2005-11-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Shouldn't any competent auditor who is asking about a vendor's programs know that they have to ask the vendor, not the user? Shouldn't your only response have to be Ask IBM? Oops. Is competent auditor an oxymoron? Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: TN3270 Emulator

2005-10-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
62x160 = 9920-byte buffer. I thought I had read here and elsewhere that there is a limitation of 8192 on the total buffer size? Not so? And I have to agree with Ed on the squint factor, though 50 lines isn't too bad on a good large monitor. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: TN3270 Emulator

2005-10-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TN3270 Emulator Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: 62x160 = 9920-byte buffer. I thought I had read here and elsewhere that there is a limitation of 8192 on the total buffer size? Not so? Time to crack

Re: TN3270 Emulator

2005-10-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
That quote is subtly wrong, here is the one I have always quoted: Ignorance is curable, only stupidity is fatal. Robert Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long (Part of his Methuselah series, collected in The Past Thru Tomorrow if memory serves. Which it might not, but what the hey, it's still

Re: Assembler question

2005-10-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Assembler question At 16:59 -0400 on 10/07/2005, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote about Re: Assembler question: I don't know if that takes care of leading

Re: Assembler question

2005-10-07 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Scott and Bob, What you need to do is break out the length of each GRPUSERS(I) string and then loop for the quotient of that length over 256, something like this: LCLA GLEN,GCNT,K,L GLEN SETA K'GRPUSERS(I) GCNT SETA GLEN/256 K SETA 1 GRPUSRI

Re: FREE SHARE webcast sessions

2005-10-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Awesome! Yes, I personally would LOVE to see more sessions recorded. Budgets being what they are (i.e., tight as a drumhead), it is nonetheless entirely possible to justify a nominal cost for access to the recorded sessions by spreading it over many developers, thus providing quality education

Re: Are there any mainframe sites out there that don't use JCLCHECK/JCLPREP or equivalent

2005-10-03 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I found the following worked for a clean character translation: 1. Click on link for each, Save As a txt file; 2. Rename each *.txt file to *.txt.gz; 3. Use Cygwin gunzip from a command window to unzip both files, without running either through iconv or anything else. In the resulting txt files,

Re: Are there any mainframe sites out there that don't use JCLCHECK/JCLPREP or equivalent?

2005-10-02 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Interesting. I found they were available as text with no problem from my home PC, which is not encrypted. I hadn't thought to try wget. In any case, I now have them. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 30,

Re: Are there any mainframe sites out there that don't use JCLCHECK/JCLPREP or equivalent?

2005-10-02 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Yes, and from my work machine they showed up as trash. No problems from my home PC. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 12:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Are there any mainframe sites out

Re: Are there any mainframe sites out there that don't use JCLCHECK/JCLPREP or equivalent?

2005-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Do you by chance remember the name or file number on CBT, or any key string one could use to find it in the CBTF1 doc? Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Grimes Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 11:55 AM To:

Re: another z9 question (retrofitted instructions)

2005-09-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Sorry for the delayed reply, but having read the FLOGR description in the PDF of the z9 PoO I think the answer to your question about the *LOG* in the name is a qualified no: FLOGR: Find Leftmost One / Grande / Register It is a 64-bit-wide RR instruction (GR). Of course, its usefulness in

Re: Some questions about cross memory services

2005-09-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
services Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: OK, I admit my ignorance and beg for enlightenment: What is ESR-style vectored linkage, or where could I learn about it for myself? http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2a860/23.2.2 _ This message and any attachments are intended only

Re: Some questions about cross memory services

2005-09-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the explanation. That's one of the things I like about this list, where you can learn about things you never knew existed. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?

2005-09-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks, I will look at that. However, I'm not really looking for something tied to a webserver, if it can be avoided. All I need is the ability to programmatically act as a 3270 terminal and record the outputs that I get from the applications that I run. And no, I don't really want to write

Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?

2005-09-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
John, Yes, that's an alternative, but still a lot more complex (to me anyway) than I need. I don't anticipate capturing user input; since I'm the user, I'll make up the inputs myself. And composing TN370E packets into 3270 screen images is definitely more work than I want to take on. It's

Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?

2005-09-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
WRT proxy listener issues, that is way beyond my experience so I can't comment there. However, thanks for the reminder that there can be rules on the assignment of LU's from TCP/IP connections. I knew that but had forgotten it. It would affect any program substituting for a TN3270E client.

HOD/HACL running on z/OS?

2005-09-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
(Posted to both MVS-OE and IBM-MAIN) Hi all, Our friends at IBM seem to think that these questions are worth a consulting contract, which I am not in a position to even discuss. Can anyone here answer my questions, or point me to where I might find answers (no-charge answers, of course)?

Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Hi all, I encountered a reference to the EDGAR editor today, which (it was said) would run under VM/370 R6. Does anyone know of a source for EDGAR? Or is it lost in the mists of time? TIA for your help. Peter _ This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks, I'll check the archives there. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere? You might try

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Yes, I saw that, but it doesn't seem to actually say where. Unless the Yahoo feed is slow and I haven't seen the one you saw yet. I'll keep an eye out. Thanks for the heads-up. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
For VM/370 R6 under Hercules, where we have no XEDIT nor any other fullscreen editor available. However, I have been informed privately that EDGAR also required DIAG 58, which is also not present in VM/370 R6. *Sigh* Are you sure it was a Program Product? I was also told that it was an FDP, not

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Pardon my ignorance, but is Display Editing System for CMS the official title for EDGAR? If so, IUP is a good status. IIRC, IUP's were not copyrighted or licensed, though they were sometimes chargable. Or at least, that was true for some IUP's. ISTR the software hierarchy used to be IUP, FDP

Re: Wouldn't it be WIKI and SourceForge time?

2005-08-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Peter, We share more than a first name. I agree with your point that new blood thinking needs to happen for this environment to survive. I also agree that cooperative development of freeware tools would be A Good Thing(TM). However, where is the freeware interface to the build process on the

Re: Wouldn't it be WIKI and SourceForge time?

2005-08-11 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Wouldn't it be WIKI and SourceForge time? Hi all gentle listers, I'm a MVS/OS390/zOS professional for many years (oops more

XCF for the masses [was: RE: EJES vs. IOF???]

2005-08-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Hmm. Sounds like the start of a really neat and interesting SHARE technical session in the HLASM track to me... complete with take-home examples of working code! :) Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005

Re: XCF for the masses [was: RE: EJES vs. IOF???]

2005-08-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I wish I was attending. Budget disallows it this time around. I look forward to seeing the conference proceedings, though. Thanks, Sam. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:27 AM To:

Re: SORT help - to split by delimiters

2005-08-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
All reasonable answers, Frank, but the awk script proposed in one of the replies to the OP's question will do it right now with no fuss, no muss, problem solved already. Floating fields like the OP gave as an example are perfect targets for regular expression pattern matching. What you could

Re: What is a Systems Programmer

2005-08-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
ITYM Section 16.1 here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/zosbasic.pdf Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is a Systems Programmer Mike,

Re: Is there any c language lib for list/queue/stack data struct in z/os v1r6?

2005-08-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
http://dannyreviews.com/h/Art_Programming.html You have to write them yourself for C language, only STL for C++ provides pre-packaged versions. Or find some enterprising programmer who has already done it and pay him/her for his/her version. HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Server Time Protocol (Was: Re: SMPE 3.4)

2005-07-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
PMFJI here, but isn't NIST time available via NTP to the microsecond or better? ISTR they use an atomic clock to synchronize NIST, and the accuracy is quite high (or so I was led to believe). Why wouldn't that be sufficient for z systems? Caveat -- I've not had the need to sync a system to NIST

Re: Server Time Protocol (Was: Re: SMPE 3.4)

2005-07-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Ah! I misunderstood then. Thanks for the clarification. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Server Time Protocol (Was: Re: SMPE 3.4) Ulrich Boche wrote:

Re: Supported interface to set/retrieve TCBUSER field NON-authori zed?

2005-07-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Yes, I quickly found that out. As I was once an ISV software programmer, I am well aware of not being able to guarantee you are the one using the field, so I quickly abandoned that idea. Earlier in this thread Rolf Ernst also pointed out the TCBFSA hack, which works very well (especially when

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
TSO FREE DATASET('your.dataset.name') -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: TSO Unallocate Dataset. Hello all, I haven't had to do anything like this for a while but

Re: Open MVS question

2005-07-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Agreed. The problem is that the support for MVS DSN's is not universal in all the tools. This is flat wrong, IMHO, if they ever hope to get programmers who have to deal with MVS DSN's all day every day to use these services. Moving MVS DSN's to (x)FS via cp command or whatever is NOT the

Re: Open MVS question

2005-07-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Precisely. -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Open MVS question Snipped Of course, one could wonder why open() was not written to support MVS datasets like fopen() was. _ This message

Re: Open MVS question

2005-07-14 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
And though undocumented and unsupported, any Unix System Service program that uses only fopen()/fread()/fclose() can also access MVS datasets directly. awk is one tool I have successfully used to do this. Of course, I didn't *stay* with awk for that application. The performance was so bad I had

Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus

2005-07-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I never even envisioned automated tools looking at VSAM stats. My ASSumption when reading Mark's posts was that he was referring to individual programmers looking at individual VSAM file stats for guidance. My experience is obviously severely limited in this regard, as in my varied positions

Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus

2005-07-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
See my earlier reply to Mr. Richards for the ASSumptions behind that statement. Peter -Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 6:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus ... Just because they are

Re: Has VSAM become synonymous with KSDS?

2005-07-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Well, not everywhere. RRDS/ESDS in my experience are still actively used, especially where database complexity would be a performance drawback instead of an advantage. Not *every* business transaction requires a database. KISS is still a good design principle. Peter -Original Message-

Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus

2005-07-05 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
PMFJI here, but I cannot hold my (virtual) tongue any longer. ALL of what is being argued about here ASSuMEs that somthing BAD has happened. Either an ABEND or a CICS IMMediate shutdown or some other ABNORMAL event. ISTM that for the vast majority of programmers who might use those VSAM

Re: Transition requirements for new world was Re: z/OS future needs was Re: USS in a legacy world

2005-06-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
One transition requirement you have left out is HLL's (COBOL included) losing the sequential file distinction among QSAM, ESDS and HFS/ZFS/NFS PATH's -- i.e., no matter the access method, no matter the format, no matter the storage mechanism, no matter the locality of the data. -Original

Re: IDENTIFY restriction [was: RE: ISKE/IVSK]

2005-06-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
[was: RE: ISKE/IVSK] In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/28/2005 at 10:10 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Well, he's not the only graybeard who didn't get that memo. I missed it too. I just looked it up, Where? The Devil is in the details. IDENTIFY *must* specify an address within

Re: IDENTIFY restriction [was: RE: ISKE/IVSK]

2005-06-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
- From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IDENTIFY restriction [was: RE: ISKE/IVSK] In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/29/2005 at 09:49 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http

Re: IDENTIFY restriction [was: RE: ISKE/IVSK]

2005-06-28 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Well, he's not the only graybeard who didn't get that memo. I missed it too. I just looked it up, and Ed is correct -- IDENTIFY *must* specify an address within an already-loaded/fetched/etc. program. Now why'd they go and do that? That means I can't use that old CompSci trick of

Re: Name/Token Services in COBOL? IEANTC

2005-06-24 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thank you for that assurance. It will help in the negotiations to follow. Peter -Original Message- From: Peter Relson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Name/Token Services in COBOL? IEANTC If the result of a C compile

Re: Name/Token Services in COBOL?

2005-06-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks, Walt. I'll try that route. Peter -Original Message- From: Walt Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Name/Token Services in COBOL? Snipped Members of SYS1.SAMPLIB are (in my experience) generally

Re: Supported interface to set/retrieve TCBUSER field NON-authorized?

2005-06-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Rolf, Sorry for the delayed reply, but I did not see your message until I browsed the newsgroup today. I normally only read from the mailing list. That's an interesting hack, thanks for the info. It never hurts to have another tool in your back pocket for when it is needed. Peter --

Re: Name/Token Services in COBOL?

2005-06-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks, Peter, and yes, we are at z/OS 1.4. So why should 1.4 SAMPLIB have 1.5-only content? Is that still APAR-able? Peter -Original Message- From: Peter Relson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Name/Token Services

Re: Supported interface to set/retrieve TCBUSER field NON-authorized?

2005-06-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Agreed, Bill. An anchor for persistent data is the application, and name/token services is the right answer. For very small amounts of data, though, it just seems like overkill. Peter -Original Message- From: Bill Fairchild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:18 PM

Re: Supported interface to set/retrieve TCBUSER field NON-authorized?

2005-06-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
As I said earlier, name/token services is the right answer to the right question. I had only hoped there was a less complex method for small amounts of data. Peter -Original Message- From: Leonard Woren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:00 PM To:

Re: Name/Token Services in COBOL?

2005-06-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Not to mention the other language copy members there (IEANTC, IEANTPAS, IEANTPLI). BTW, the C language sample in SYS1.SAMPLIB(IEANTC) has an error in the #pragma's for the 64-bit IEANT functions: They are each declared as linkage(...,OS64_NOSTACK), but OS64_NOSTACK is not a supported option of

Supported interface to set/retrieve TCBUSER field NON-authorized?

2005-06-20 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Hi all, The subject says it all, I am trying to find out if there is a supported+documented interface to set and retrieve the TCBUSER word from a NON-authorized program WITHOUT writing any authorized code. I tried a simple ST instruction, but that's an 0C4 storage violation. TIA for any

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