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rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes:
At Clearing, we ran MVS very nicely on three 4341 Model Group 2 boxen
for three years and it ran very nicely. Nowdays, my pocket calculator
probably has more raw compute power but
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<>This has been an interesting thread. It seems we all really ENJOY
auditors... Can someone say prostate exam?
Isn't that essentially a different kind of audit ???
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there was big explosion in the mid-range market with 43xx machines ...
which MVS didn't fit well into.
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I resemble that remark. :-)
At Clearing, we ran MVS very nicely on t
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I think the valid question here is #3 - Why would you do that? I don't
know about everyone else on this forum, but I have too much to do to try
and get an operator fired in this way. And if you ever got caught doing
t
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I would definitely not call this an "industry standard"... If the
consoles are in a secure room that should suffice all but the most
stringent security standards.
No
I've never seen a shop that requires operator logon to system consoles.
All the shops I've worked in, or consulted for, have the consoles
secured by physical security measures, including key cards and locked doors.
Rick
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Pommier, Rex R. wrote:
Hi List,
but how many people who read the article know what odiferous horse
hockey it is?
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We should be working to help our management realize just what th
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out of curiosity, do you recall just how they managed to get ahold of *that much* C4? you're talking about 8 CUBIC YARDS of the stuff in the mixer, if it really really was completely packed .. I used the stuf
Steve Comstock wrote:
Alan Schenck wrote:
If this myth needs to be busted, may I suggest that we involve the
likes of Jamie Hyneman, Adam Savage, Tory Belleci, Kari Byron, and
Grant Imahara?
Duh! I don't know any of those names. Sorry, but the allusion
is just lost, and I suspect I'm not
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I'm also curious as to why you would want to filter out the recording of
SMF records for certain datasets. SMF records are useful for a variety
of analysis tasks, not the least of which would be an audit trail in
case somet
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With single page i/o transfers on 2301 drum ... cp67 would saturate at
about 80 page i/os per second. With chained-requests, I could get peaks
approaching 300 page i/os per second (chained requests eliminated the
avg. 1/2 rotati
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better yet, to Vorkuta (or did they dismantle that place after 1989?)
/s/ tuco bonno;
Graduate, College of Conflict Management;
University of SouthEast Asia;
"I partied on the Ho Chi Minh Trail - tiến lên !! "
"The company commands 85 percent of the mainframe market and can't afford
to abandon a technology that despite its age, still underpins some 10,000
mainframes that are used by 4,000 to 5,000 customers around the gl
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I would not worry about FUD given the following statement from the article.
"Some companies still employ an older mainframe with a screen known as a
3270 terminal emulator, which evokes the decades-old Disk Operating
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I guess if we did it consistently and often enough we might get a
reporter or two to check their facts but as they are probably not
Mainframe savvy (or even tech savvy) I doubt it would get anywhere.
Perhaps if we targeted the editor
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In addition to the dataset name, would I also be able to filter on the
STC name as well? Thanks to all who've helped answer this question for me.
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Yeah, so, do we have a responsiblity to point up the error of such
careless reporting? Is it in our (mainframer's) best interest to send
emails decrying the sloppy reporting? Do we let the myth continue?
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Joel C. Ewing wrote:
On 08/03/2010 06:16 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
...
I've converted from one vendor to another, as a storage analyst, project
leader, and using outside consultants.
There is NO one feature, other than cost, that will make me pick one over the
other.
...
That depends o
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In <4c56d535.9020...@ync.net>, on 08/02/2010
at 09:24 AM, Rick Fochtman said:
Most of those geometry-related "System Services" didn't exist! :-)
What year are you talking about?
Just about the time the 3390 first hit the s
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In <4c56c44e.6000...@acm.org>, on 08/02/2010
at 08:12 AM, "Joel C. Ewing" said:
I dealt with assemblers on other platforms in those early days and
didn't have to deal with Assembler on the S/360 platform until it had
over a decade to mature, but my impress
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In
<77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca343c4e...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com>,
on 08/02/2010
at 03:01 PM, Bill Fairchild said:
I assume this is how IBM did it before they had debugged the E4
command.
Did IBM ever do device discovery before then?
Of
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On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 09:24:53 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:
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Because you didn't use system services to insulate yourself from ch
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Because you didn't use system services to insulate yourself from changes.
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Most of those geometry-related "System Services" didn't exist! :-)
Rick
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But this reminds me of the current struggle to extend DASD volume sizes
beyond 54GB, largely because IBM apparently at the introduction of the
3390 made a committment to support forever programmers with the
unconscionab
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In a message dated 7/30/2010 10:50:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
bshan...@rocketsoftware.com writes:
You have too much integrity.
Maybe a run for office?
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I seem to recall the JWT (job wait time) parameter was an IPL only type
of change. However, I see some evidence ( a redbook) that it can be
changed on the fly with a SET SMF=xx command.
This seems to have been the case for so
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Hello experts here,
Found a blog trying to comparing UNIX technology with mainframe, please comment:
http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/6775-Whats-so-special-about-the-Parallel-Sysplex.html
And answered questions asked by
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On 7/27/2010 8:42 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote:
I can tell you from bitter experience that while the algorithm
is fairly simple, implementation is most assuredly NOT simple. :-(
About twelve years ago I was working as a
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It depends on one's perception of "trivial". Volume 3 of Knuth's "Art of
Computer Programming" has a very simple algorithm for building balanced
trees.
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I can tell
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If you don't understand what's wrong with PDS, re-read Etienne Thijsse's
thread on attempting to delete a PDSE member. Or imagine my astonished
dismay the first time I allocated a member with DISP=(OLD,DELETE) and
w
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One type of screw head that I haven't seen mentioned here is the torx,
or hexalobular, head. While the Philips screw was designed to "cam out"
of the screw to prevent overtightening, the torx screw, like the
Robertson
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Barbara Nitz wrote:
No, it's 64K tracks. It is the same "per volume" limit as many other
data set types (non-extended). But PDSes and PDSEs are also limited
to a single volume.
I am surprised. I did not know abo
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We also say SNAH and KICKS in The Netherlands and during a course in Atlanta it
took me a while to understand what was meant with C-I-C-S.
On the matter of screws:
I own a 91 Jeep Wrangler with a lot of torx screws and in
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Yeah, I was astounded to see this bubble up high enough that a gas
station blabber-at-you-while-you-pump screen had the story!
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Seems like a waste of t
IBM makes what is claimed to be the biggest Mainframe announcement in
decades and most of the traffic on this list is on the etymology of CICS
and PoPs
I love it.
--
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Hopefully he brought his Robertson screws over with him to install the
switches. :-)
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Most hardware and home center stores don't even know
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In a message dated 7/22/2010 5:07:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rfocht...@ync.net writes:
Sad news for those of us that are relatively old-timers on this list.
Mark Thomen, our VSAM and ICFCAT expert within IBM, passed aw
Sad news for those of us that are relatively old-timers on this list.
Mark Thomen, our VSAM and ICFCAT expert within IBM, passed away last week.
I have extended condolences to his family and friends on behalf of all
the IBM-MAIN list members.
He was a good friend and a valued contributor to t
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But it's still a "Green Card" isn't it?
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:-) Hasn't been "green" in over thirty years! :-)
Latest version is white and it's a 70-page "booklet". Sorry t
Touche!
And, Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk!
Whoop! Whoop! Whoop!
(3 stooges, sci-fi, comic book geek since 1962)
Maturity hasn't entered the equation in so long.
(Dennis Leary sound alike)
--:
I'm a zSuperHero with zNeither zPowers, nor zMotivation!
zKimota!
(Sorry, couldn't help myself.)
Mark Hammond
d. 214-615-4695
-Original Message-
From: Ted MacNEIL [mailto:eamacn...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Thu
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I was really "excited" by the "conditional load/store" which I guess is
similar to the compare and branch instructions. I don't know if they
will combine a "compare and load/store" or do a load/store based on the
ex
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2. If you read the LinkedIn discussion (you can find a link in the blog
post) and the blog post itself you'll see I'm not talking about
vulnerabilities in the code base. I'm talking about insecure
configurations, people NOT locki
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I found a number of tapes which are 32k blocking and used IEBCOMPR but it
really doesn't give decent enough information and didn't work on
multi-volume datasets.
For tapes that are single volume, single dataset then the informa
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Psychology question, not a technology question: In the opinion of the
readers of this list, would most shops consider that a routine thing or
would they consider it a potentially disruptive thing?
In other words, if a v
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Could some of it have come about by disassembling to reconstruct or
reverse engineer unavailable source code?
Guilty as charged. I'm sure that was a contributing fa
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Was it because there were a lot of inexperienced assembler programmers
writing code? Was it because people thought the platform would not last
and treated every program as a "throw away"? Was it due to limitations
I think black magic is more of a science than guessing the future for a
configuration.
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Not strictly true, but all too often very close. :-)
Rick
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And here I was thinking IBM was trying to convince the world that as
long as you didn't allow anyone to run SMP/E there were no known
(acknowledged) vulnerabilities ...
Damn.
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As those of you following my IEFU8x thread know, I've just taken over
responsibility for some IEFU8x code. It needs some serious re-writing
and while I've got a lot of 360 to Z experience, this is my first SMF
exit, so I'd l
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Ben, that's very sound advice, but the exit writeing person MUST be aware
of any restrictions in the invoking environment. One example: you WILL use
the branch entry to WTO if you need to write messages to the operator from
IEFU8
stem z and current version of z/VM. Rather than type long winded messages, I can set up a call. Or we can chat at Share in a couple of weeks.
nor...@desertwiz.biz
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-----
From: Rick Fochtman
Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Date:
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I am sorry but I don't understand what you mean.
We are a software development company so our work has no standard at
all. It changes from day to day depending on what the developers are
doing. We have a 2096 n02 which g
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Hi,
We are hopefully going from a z9 to z10 processor.
I would like to have 4 CP's instead of our current 2 CP's so our
configuration is more flexible. We are not worried about licensing costs
of multiple processors. The overall
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:>Does anyone know - for writing SMF records for invalid logons and access
:>violations detected by RACF, does RACF use the SMFEWTM interface that
:>invokes IEFU83? Or does it (ever?) use the branch entry or x-memory branch
:>entry t
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Hi, all.
I’m writting an assembler program and I would like to get some informations
that are specified on parameter SUBSYS=.
Example:
//AEXEC PGM=MYPROG
//DD1DDSUBSYS=(ABCD,EOSGRP10,,,,20090102,121110)
//DD
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I would add that this command should be done against your MASTER catalog
to get all aliases... This should show you all aliases along with their
associated user catalogs. Depending on your system this can be a
lengthy output.
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On 14 July 2010 10:03, Ken Porowski wrote:
24/7, 365 from a financial CEO? Do the math!
This was one of the best apologies I have seen, even giving some details of
escalation process.
-Original Message-
Timothy Sippl
Before this goes any more off-topic :-)
I am also willing to make a few exceptions if I deal with someone from this list
or if I can see that someone honestly tries but that no one ever educated
them properly in the first pl
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Now I know Rob is good, but If I worked for a vendor I'd reckon I'd want
to keep my head down in case I got on the other end of a phone call with
Barbara ...
Lots of fun ... ;-)
Shane ...
On Wed, Jul 14th, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Rob S
YGIIGAM, but it certainly sounds like it.
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YGIIGAM ?
Rick
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For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / a
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Based on a follow-up item:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9179121/IBM_takes_blame_for_massive_bank_system_failure
The short answer is: yes. It was an operator error.
Now, I'll sit back and enjoy the debate on the questi
Sure do miss JOBCAT and STEPCAT capability; was a wonderful way to never know
exactly what...
John Donnelly
National Semiconductor Corporation
2900 Semiconductor Drive
Santa Clara, CA 95051
408-721-5640
408-721-8364 Ce
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Everyone has rules and many of them don't seem reaonable to the people
who didin't have a hand in making them or solving the problems that
occurred before the rules were created. At your previous work site, they
could read a thum
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Would people agree with the following?
If a vendor were shipping a product that resided in two datasets,
FOO.THIS and FOO.THAT, best practice would be to recommend that the
installer either create a user catalog named FOO or
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Is there a way to syntax JES2 statements
We are trying a new config, the old one starts ok
The new one gets the cancel or end option and we cant
determine the error.
There
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Ted,
Well, I don't know what else to say Ted. These are real world examples that
provided significant IO and IO Time reduction for Banking and Credit Card
applications. I did not say "I recommend" these techniques, I sa
I'm wondering if your primary rule of not compressing a file unless it
will exceed its architectural limit may have blocked the opportunity for
you to come across cases where compression is not a waste of time.
Synchronous remote cop
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Hi all
We are installing z/OS 1.11 using Serverpac.
Normal we issue 'CH S 100 * 100' command to increase the all datasets
shipped on the RES volume.
Could you tell us how to make sure which dataset on the RES volume
really need to increase?
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The formal proof applies to PKZIP regardless of its internal complexity.
While your statement sounds plausible, it's not compelling.
If you treat PKZIP as a black box.
IE: data in -- compressed out.
Then the formal p
I've done the same thing in past implementations, but I used multiple
ECB's that the mother task and daughter task used to communicate results
and orders back and forth. I would post one of those "other" ECB's to
tell the subtask to shut down and when the ECB in the ATTACH parm list
was posted,
:
That is interesting. I thought that one of the attributes of the
Huffman algorithm was that expansion due to the substitution was
impossible ...
Not impossible; rather, inevitable. Think pigeonhole principle.
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In certain isolated cases, any record may GROW instead of shrink when
going
through the ARCHIVER's compaction process (using the Huffman algorithm).
That is interesting. I thought that one of the attributes of the
Hu
I've "unbuttoned" the "ARCHIVER" (CBTTAPE file 147) for some upgrade
work, thanks to a problem I've discovered. This problem is due to the
limit on the LRECL/BLKSIZE of any non-VSAM dataset being processed. In
certain isolated cases, any record may GROW instead of shrink when going
through the
The best anti-virus software I've found so far is Linux. :-) And, it's FREE!
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I maintain that a properly tuned version of I
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How does a catalog get to be any where near 4 Gig (or even 2)?
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Haven't you ever heard the term "putting all your eggs into one basket"
?? 'Nuf said?
Rick
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Very occasionally.
In around 2007, I had an archive-to-CD prototype running. You gave it a
list of MVS datasets and it would offload them to a PC (after converting
to AWS format). The PC burned a pair of CDs and compared th
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I guess that means you don't have someone like a Bill Fairchild on staff
then John ... ;-)
Just how many sysprogs do you reckon have had a go at writing channel
programs to hit offline volumes ...
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They taught all the obscure utilities like IEBCOMPR and IEBDG.
Outside of that set of courses, I've never used either in the Real World,
ever.
Quoted below is the funniest part of the article.
*This document is the
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In , on 06/30/2010
at 08:42 AM, Mark Zelden said:
[1] Many people don't realize that at the same time the started jobs
support came in, enhancements were made to the START command to
support JOBCARD parameters.
I
Greatly appreciated. Thanks, Steve.
Rick
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Steve Comstock wrote:
Rick Fochtman wrote:
A great number of you kind ladies and gentlemen have shared private
E-Mail addresses with me in the past. I would be highly
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Weird! Anybody here use IEBCOMPR?
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I think I used it once. About 30 years ago. AFAIK, it hasn't
significantly changed since then.
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The book is called dz9zr006.pdf on my IBM-Books CDROM which was
delivererd with z/OS 1.10
Same PDF book, SA22-7832-06, in 'SK3T-4269-21' CDROM set.
HTH!
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I don't think you'll find what you are looking for (a pros/cons list).
It's mostly common sense.
There is paragraph in DFSMS Managing Catalogs in the "planning a
configuration" chapter that states this:
"For ease of
Either the 1.10 or 1.11 collection for z/OS
Rick
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:20:48 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:
Where, in the CD-COM collection, has he hidden the "Principles of
Operations" manual? I don't have WEB access
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Even easier than you wrote...
/* rexx - "zero" a PDS Directory */
ARG dsn
"ALLOC F(PDSDIR) DA("dsn") SHR REUSE RECFM(F)", /* pds directory */
"DSORG(PS) LRECL(256) BLKSIZE(256)"
"EXECIO 1 DISKRU PDSDIR (ST
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PS: no unethical persons were harmed while writing this post... ;-D
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Why not?? :-)
Rick
There was a time, not very long ago, when ad-hoc use of INTRDR was
deprecated (controlled?) because they were a finite resource. I suspect
one could still create pretty much havoc by OPENing INTRDRs up to a
system limit, a
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I just have to ask this one question.
How difficult is it to get the number of directory blocks from a PDS in
a _ program (where the blank can be filled in with COBOL, PL/1,
REXX, etc., but not HLASM/ASM) and then open the da
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Until IBM provides a language or variant such as a systems flavor of
C/C++ that has access to all of the facilities (including the peculiar
linking conventions for some JES exits, any management that does not
keep access to a
Arrested the managers of a company that sold 'software' poisoned 1,000
companies. Fraudsters introduced "errors controlled" for the system to
fail at a particular dateDUVA JESUS - Madrid - 22/06/2010
VoteResult 147 votes. The Guardia Civil have arrested three managers of
a company that sells c
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Management may know something you don't. Management may know that very
few of their staff knows BAL. And if a program blows up in the middle of
the night (or any other time) no one may be available to debug it. I
have see
john gilmore wrote:
--
Mr. MacNeil's latest defense of his 5% rule is a farrago of nonsense
salted with radical internal contradictions.
He begins with the wholly appropriate, albeit banal, observation t
I think on of the best learning methodz is having a good boss. My first
job as a sysprog around 1978 at Milwaukee County, I had a really good
boss. He would call me into his office, and tell me about a new project
he had for me. He'd tell me things to watch out for, show me the manual
and wh
I was unaware of Mr. Smith's involvement.
Rick
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Ed Finnell wrote:
In a message dated 6/25/2010 5:31:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rfocht...@ync.net writes:
with Bruce Leland, the original author, for about 25 years.
Author(s) Mike Sm
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After all what is a consultant anyway. Just someone who has read the
manual
because nobody else wants too and more often than not its the client's
manual anyway or through the client's internet.
Well, I'm sure ther
I give up. I'm starting to wonder who assembles the CD-ROM collection of
manuals and whether that person has an IQ above room temperature.
Where, in the CD-COM collection, has he hidden the "Principles of
Operations" manual? I don't have WEB access from work and I need that
manual!
Rick
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My take is that most of the execution time of any given unit of work
such as a job step or CICS transaction is spent executing system code
including access methods, CICS and DB2 supplied code. An SQL statement
presu
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I don't even know how to subset this message to formulate a response.
So, I'm replying intact.
But, my point is, while the percentage may not believed, how many users
write access methods, terminal handlers, abend handle
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We have had PanValet continuosly licensed ever since the PanSophic
days. Yes, a PAN2 of that vintage issued a hardware reserve for the
duration of the run. I think that was fixed in 14.2, but not sure of
the exact release. I
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