Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-10 Thread John Dawes
Charles, I tried your suggestion and it was an excellent one. I was able to download the pds. Thanks to all for responding. Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C:\FTP 12.34.56.78 [or whatever your mainframe's IP address or URL is] userid password lcd whatever Windows folder

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/05/2006 at 01:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: My mistake; I meant FTP client, as you inferred below. Then what you meant was correct, as I know of an FTP client that will accept a URL[1]. Ummm. Is there a specification for the UI of an FTP client?

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/04/2006 at 06:54 AM, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The first definition I found was An acronym for Uniform Resource Locator, this is the address of a resource on the Internet. An apple is a fruit and an orange is a fruit, but an apple is not an orange. An

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/04/2006 at 09:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: (Beware of typing Whitehouse and expecting to find W's home page.) Some might consider whitehouse.com to be the more reputable of the two. Conversely, I would not be surprised if some browsers attempt to

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said: Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 11:30:56 -0300 Conversely, I would not be surprised if some browsers attempt to interpred FTP URLs. I would be surprised if any current browser *failed* to support the FTP scheme. My mistake; I meant FTP

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-04 Thread TISLER Zaromil
- snip - C:\FTP 12.34.56.78 [or whatever your mainframe's IP address or URL is] Host name, not URL. FTP will not be able to parse a URL. - snip - I am not sure if I have tried FTP with URL instead of host name, but linux FTP clients (ftp, lftp, ncftp), default Windows 2000

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/04/2006 at 09:57 AM, TISLER Zaromil [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am not sure if I have tried FTP with URL instead of host name, but linux FTP clients (ftp, lftp, ncftp), default Windows 2000 FTP, and z/OS 1.7 FTP allow the use of URLs I suggest that you consult the

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-04 Thread TISLER Zaromil
Shmuel, That's nice, but 192.168.243.49 is not a URL. Sorry and thank you for correcting me. Zaromil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-04 Thread Juraschek, David F
I didn't see anyone mention that you can also use DFDSS (or your favorite backup - FDR perhaps) to make a dump of the dataset(s). So, backup to a sequential disk file. Then FTP this to your destination system and restore. It's essentially the same as the XMIT option, just using a different

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 4 May 2006 06:54:48 -0700, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first definition I found was An acronym for Uniform Resource Locator, this is the address of a resource on the Internet. Would not FTP hosts qualify as a resource on the Internet? See also

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 4 May 2006 09:44:39 -0400, Juraschek, David F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't see anyone mention that you can also use DFDSS (or your favorite backup - FDR perhaps) to make a dump of the dataset(s). So, backup to a sequential disk file. Then FTP this to your destination system

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-04 Thread Jim Keohane
@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Help : FTP A PDS On Thu, 4 May 2006 09:44:39 -0400, Juraschek, David F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Not if the different packaging tool uses variable length records that can't be reconstructed from a bit stream. -- gil

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-03 Thread Dave Salt
From: John Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a new member to your board and I have heard great things about it. Can anybody please tell me if and how I can FTP a whole PDS/PDSE? I have this pds with about 39 members. I would like to FTP them to my hard drive. By far the easiest method I've

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-03 Thread Bob Shannon
I am a new member to your board and I have heard great things about it. Can anybody please tell me if and how I can FTP a whole PDS/PDSE? I have this pds with about 39 members. I would like to FTP them to my hard drive. Others have responded, but I just wanted to point out that this

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-03 Thread TISLER Zaromil
- snip - C:\FTP 12.34.56.78 [or whatever your mainframe's IP address or URL is] userid password lcd whatever Windows folder you want to put the members in cd my.PDS.name mget * [hit enter for every prompt - alternatively use the prompt command first to turn off prompting] - snip

WSA (was: Help : FTP A PDS)

2006-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Dave Salt said: Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 01:06:29 + By far the easiest method I've found for transfering files to and from a mainframe is using the ISPF Workstation Agent (or WSA for short). Installing For what workstation platforms is this available. E.g. OS X?

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-03 Thread Jim Keohane
PDS's DCB characteristics. - Original Message - From: Bob Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 6:10 AM Subject: Re: Help : FTP A PDS I am a new member to your board and I have heard great things about

Re: WSA (was: Help : FTP A PDS)

2006-05-03 Thread Dave Salt
From: Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] For what workstation platforms is WSA available. E.g. OS X? Linux for z/Series? Is the source code available so it can be ported to such other platforms? According to ISPF option 3.7.1, the Workstation Agent can be downloaded to Windows, AIX, HP UX, and

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-03 Thread Steve Bireley
Seagull Software has a free Windows FTP client that handles PDS's well. You can get it from Cnet, ZDnet, or directly from the Seagull website at .seagullsoftware.com. Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: WSA (was: Help : FTP A PDS)

2006-05-03 Thread Kirk Talman
Unfortunately, if one does this without other work one gets No connection when one takes option 2 (Download/upload ISPF library, partitioned, or seq data set) from the Download Data Set to Workstation panel (3.7). What is the other work to be done? IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Steve Bireley said: Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 10:58:19 -0400 Seagull Software has a free Windows FTP client that handles PDS's well. .seagullsoftware.com. What does it mean that it handles PDS's well? All I can think of is that it has facilities to rename

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-03 Thread Tim Hare
Well, since the one reason I can think of to download a mainframe load module is to upload it to a different mainframe, two accounts will be needed no matter what, so I think your first point is moot. I believe, but haven't tried it, that z/OS FTP allows you to specify that one FTP server

Re: WSA (was: Help : FTP A PDS)

2006-05-03 Thread Dave Salt
From: Kirk Talman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, if one does this without other work one gets No connection when one takes option 2 (Download/upload ISPF library, partitioned, or seq data set) from the Download Data Set to Workstation panel (3.7). What is the other work to be done? I'm

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-03 Thread Jim Keohane
: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Help : FTP A PDS Well, since the one reason I can think of to download a mainframe load module is to upload it to a different mainframe, two accounts will be needed no matter what, so I think your first

Re: WSA (was: Help : FTP A PDS)

2006-05-03 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 11:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, if one does this without other work one gets No connection when one takes option 2 (Download/upload ISPF library, partitioned, or seq data set) from the Download Data Set to Workstation panel (3.7). What is the other

Re: WSA (was: Help : FTP A PDS)

2006-05-03 Thread Dave Salt
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 11:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, if one does this without other work one gets No connection when one takes option 2 (Download/upload ISPF library, partitioned, or seq data set) from the Download Data Set to Workstation panel (3.7). What is the other

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Tim Hare said: Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 11:22:34 -0400 Well, since the one reason I can think of to download a mainframe load module is to upload it to a different mainframe, two accounts will be needed no matter what, so I think your first point is moot. Think

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-03 Thread Jim Keohane
@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Help : FTP A PDS In a recent note, Tim Hare said: Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 11:22:34 -0400 I believe, but haven't tried it, that z/OS FTP allows you to specify that one FTP server transfer files to a different FTP server, which

Re: WSA (was: Help : FTP A PDS)

2006-05-03 Thread Kirk Talman
I assume the messages below mean tcp/ip not available. Ping gets messages indicating it is an authorized command. LSCX471 WARNING ERRNO = ENETDOWN Generated in SOCKET called from line 11219 of @@047041(NF) , off et 000166 C++ name: DtTCPCLIENT::BeginOperation

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/02/2006 at 05:22 PM, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm going to guess that I can re-phrase your question as How do I initiate an FTP on my Windows system that will copy all of the members of a PDS to my PC's hard drive? In whch case he'd better not try it

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/03/2006 at 08:34 AM, John Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am a new member to your board ITYM mailing list. tell me if and how I can FTP a whole PDS/PDSE? There are two different ways. If you're transferring files between two z/OS systems, then you can FTP the

Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-02 Thread John Dawes
G'Day I am a new member to your board and I have heard great things about it. Can anybody please tell me if and how I can FTP a whole PDS/PDSE? I have this pds with about 39 members. I would like to FTP them to my hard drive. Thanks mates. John

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-02 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Help : FTP A PDS G'Day I am a new member to your board and I have heard great things about it. Can anybody please tell me if and how I can FTP a whole PDS/PDSE? I have this pds with about 39 members. I would like to FTP them to my hard drive

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-02 Thread Charles Mills
version was free, last I knew. Google knows where to find it. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Help : FTP A PDS G'Day I am a new

Re: Help : FTP A PDS

2006-05-02 Thread Charles Mills
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Help : FTP A PDS I would like to FTP them to my hard drive. FTP always has two ends. The ends make a difference! The end where you initiate the transfer is called the client; the other end is called the server. Either end could be the from end or the to end