Re: Ordering WebSphere Developer for zSeries

2005-07-18 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples > > [ snip ] > Price fixing is illegal in many > states and countries, including the United States. Bought any gasoline lately? -jc- ---

Re: Ordering WebSphere Developer for zSeries

2005-07-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:08 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: SNIP I think it's unlikely that all of your programmers should learn Java. However, a few probably should. Take a bureaucratic lesson from your Windows "friends" who are probably nickel and diming you

Re: Ordering WebSphere Developer for zSeries

2005-07-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
>> 1. That's fantasy^H^H^H^H^H^H^H list price. >I hate that. Why isn't it a "just give the price" scenario? The price >depends on my negotiation skills? Is this a bazaar in Mexico? I gather you've never purchased a car in Peoria. :-) It's because of quantity discounts. The IBM Passport Advantage

Re: Ordering WebSphere Developer for zSeries

2005-07-15 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:47 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Ordering WebSphere Developer for zSeries > > > > 1. Tha

Re: Ordering WebSphere Developer for zSeries

2005-07-14 Thread Timothy Sipples
>Thanks for the link. For us, the price is simply too great. I won't go >into detail, but at a cost of $7,000 ($5,500 WSED + $1,500 EGL) per >programmer, that is way too expensive. That is, given the management >mind set around here ("Windows Everywhere!!!"). We have about 70 >programmers. All of w

Re: Ordering WebSphere Developer for zSeries

2005-07-14 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:58 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Ordering WebSphere Developer for zSeries > > > > OK, g

Ordering WebSphere Developer for zSeries

2005-07-14 Thread Timothy Sipples
>> Putting on my IBM hat here...have you looked at WebSphere >> Developer for >> zSeries (aka WSED)? With that, you have the option of doing >> COBOL, PL/I, or >> Assembler development locally on the workstation >[] >I tried looking at WSED, but I cannot figure out how to get a simple >p