In [EMAIL PROTECTED]@sbcglobal.net, on
09/04/2008
at 09:57 AM, Ron Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
rant on
Isn't it about time the ISMF developers realized that Mod 4 is not the
limit to the number of lines on a screen! G...
rant off
Especially since IBM has had ISPF support for 62 line
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/04/2008
at 07:04 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Well, as unaccustomed to hearing me praise MVS as readers of this list
are, I have free choice between MVS and CMS. I rarely touch CMS:
While I refer to CMS as Clumsy Monitor System, I've wanted a
note that the first web server outside of europe was on the
slac vm system
True, although it's also true it was the first Web server anywhere outside
CERN and anywhere outside Switzerland. So it's an even more impressive bit
of history. Apparently someone(s) from SLAC attended a conference at
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Sipples) writes:
note that the first web server outside of europe was on the
slac vm system
True, although it's also true it was the
Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
one of the large vm370-based timesharing commercial bureaus
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#timeshare
had its main datacenter not very far from SLAC. That organization had
also hosted the SHARE online computer conferencing (VMSHARE) since
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:45:07 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote:
... HTTP has been
running on mainframes longer than on any other system with the sole
exception of the defunct NeXT operating system.
Really? That's surprising.
--
Tom Marchant
In a message dated 9/4/2008 7:35:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Really? That's surprising.
Defunct but not forgotten?
_http://lowendmac.com/orchard/05/next-computer-history.html_
(http://lowendmac.com/orchard/05/next-computer-history.html)
in
corporateland.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:45 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe?
I cannot think of any earthly (or even unearthly
In a message dated 9/4/2008 8:43:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
IE won't be so perfect under a '100% compliant' browser. That, I am
told, is a key reason why Firefox et al is not widely accepted in
corporateland.
Part II was the IBMLINK question. Deal or No
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Sipples) writes:
I cannot think of any earthly (or even unearthly) reason why Google Chrome
would not already be 100% compatible with all the HTTP(S) implementations
available on System z. It's a ubiquitous protocol, and HTTP has been
running on mainframes longer than
Hal Merritt wrote:
Some that I think reasonably credible charge that IE does not implement
things 100% 'correctly'. That means that code that works perfectly under
IE won't be so perfect under a '100% compliant' browser. That, I am
told, is a key reason why Firefox et al is not widely accepted
Personally I think we should have put a lot more effort into TSO and ISPF.
That's just a gut feeling... I can't give specifics. It's just knowing how
good CMS is that makes me feel that way about TSO. (And given that a lot
of my TSO usage is actually inside Batch I could see my Batch
Of
Martin Packer
Sent: 04 September 2008 16:55
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe?
Personally I think we should have put a lot more effort into TSO and ISPF.
That's just a gut feeling... I can't give specifics. It's just knowing how good
CMS is that makes me feel
In a message dated 9/4/2008 11:03:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
using some sort of GUI interface - however what I have found is that the
people using the software that I write get WAY more excited at the ISPF
interface functions than the web/java stuff.
Some
Rob,
Similarly our Mainframe Copy products operate through an ISPF interface. I
used to love all the oohs and aahs when customers realized they could do
stuff in TSO, rather than GUI or thousands of line commands.
Sometimes I think the main enemy of TSO is the default model 2 definition
that
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Finnell) writes:
Some of the ex-IBMers at SHARE claimed a CMS for MVS back in mid-eighties
that was 'shelved' for 'market considerations'
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Packer) writes:
Personally I think we should have put a lot more effort into TSO and ISPF.
That's just a gut feeling... I can't give
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Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
somewhat related, I had proposed an advanced technology new kernel
project (i.e. which was the basic theme for the
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:03:08 -0400, Rob Scott wrote:
We all know that the PHBs are telling everyone that TSO and ISPF are dead and
that we should all be using some sort of GUI interface - however what I have
found is that the people using the software that I write get WAY more excited
at the
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:52:53 EDT, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I's just wondering what the ramifications of _www.google.com_
(http://www.google.com) new browser 'Chrome' is having on M/F WEB apps.
Guess I'm scared to
try it on home PC due to click harvesting, but it's a brave new
I cannot think of any earthly (or even unearthly) reason why Google Chrome
would not already be 100% compatible with all the HTTP(S) implementations
available on System z. It's a ubiquitous protocol, and HTTP has been
running on mainframes longer than on any other system with the sole
exception of
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