The circumvention is to establish really good relations with an IBMer who will
have access to
Blue Pages.
Then make damn sure every request you make is fully justified in IBM's interest
as much as
yours.
It worked for me for many, many years. Some IBMers - especially the executives
- do
SVS was bizarrely popular in Germany, and lived on there for longer than almost
anywhere. IBM
Bonn produced an _excellent_ SVS 1.7K DLIB tape that really was well sorted out
and I had over
a dozen customers using it.
One customer - Maizena in Heilbronn, part of Knorr and manufacturers of the
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:27:43 -0600, Wallace, Jason
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think our operators missed it the first time because it was white. It
happened at noon when the full-time operators were at lunch, and the
student employees (part timers) usually ignore everything except tape
mounts and
In a message dated 3/2/2007 2:17:10 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
them to determine how to react to some messages, i.e. if a tape mount (which
is red) wasn't satisified in a certain time period then a red reverse
blinking message was output along with an alert
We were also having a lot of problems with the large volumes of SMF data we
produce (though it was CICS data we us) and associated contention issues.
What we did was increase the size of the MANx datasets so they could never
fill them in 30 mins and have our DUMPXY's run every 30 mins to clear
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Day
The thing that has baffled me about outsourcing is how do
companies actually save money since now the outsourcer
includes in its costs marketing expenses and profits.
Salary for a programmer in
Thanks Sam! Great info (as usual). Since we are z/OS 1.6 I haven't
made the leap yet en mass, but I have been running zFS since z/OS 1.4.
Is your root a zFS?
Mark
--
Mark Zelden
Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead
Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO
I'm at a loss. If I use a 'cd' command from ishell, it appears to have no
effect. I don't get any message at all, but a subsequent 'pwd' still shows
root (which is specified in my RACF OMVS segment as HOME). But if I issue a
'cd' command from TSO OMVS, it works.
I've done several searches and
Hello All.
Input Fields:
Volser: 3-8
STATUS $ 71
DSN: $ 10-53
Location: $ 55-62
IF STATEMENTS:
IF (STATUS = 'M' AND VOLSER NE '.' AND DSN NE ' '
OR LOCATION NE 'OAM' OR LOCATION NE 'DYLT');
I do not want any Locations of OAM or DYLT. BUT, I am getting records for
them and also records
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bruce Hewson
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:54 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Outsourcing perils was Re: sysprog demand in USA
Hello Howard,
what our and we ?!?!
I work outside my
Good Morning. I have a production VSAM TRANSPARENCY problem. Due to a
storage issue we had to IPL and now VSAM TRANSPARENCY does not work.
This is the error from CAIRIM startup:
DVS0004E -VT21- DVVSIPR PRIV.AREA LOAD DVVSS21 MODULE
DVS0003E -VT21- DVVSIPR UNSUCCESSFULLY INITIALIZED
Many of
When you enter a command from ishell it creates a new shell, runs the
command, and then goes back to your original shell. Changing the current
directory by issuing a command on the command line has no effect on the
current shell environment.
Jon L. Veilleux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(860) 636-2683
Debbie Mitchell wrote:
I'm at a loss. If I use a 'cd' command from ishell, it appears to have no
effect. I don't get any message at all, but a subsequent 'pwd' still shows
root (which is specified in my RACF OMVS segment as HOME). But if I issue a
'cd' command from TSO OMVS, it works.
I've
DVS0004E'' - DVVSIPR a LOAD DVVSSPR MODULE
Explanation: If a is UNABLE TO, DVVSSPR does not
reside in the Link Pack Area (LPA). If a is
PRIV.AREA, the DVVSSPR module has been loaded into MVS Private
Area rather than
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie Mitchell
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: ishell vs. OMVS behavior
I'm at a loss. If I use a 'cd' command from ishell, it
appears to
In a message dated 3/2/2007 8:35:48 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
IF (STATUS = 'M' AND VOLSER NE '.' AND DSN NE ' '
OR LOCATION NE 'OAM' OR LOCATION NE 'DYLT');
Bad logic...
If A and B then do, Both must be TRUE.
If A or B then do, only one must be TRUE.
Welcome to the brave world of Augustus DeMorgan (you'll learn to hate
him) - operators are reversed by negatives
Carol Srna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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03/02/2007 09:14 AM
Please respond to
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
I don't understand what you're saying. At entry to ishell is
the place where you specify the directory you want to work in:
-
UNIX System Services ISPF Shell
Enter a pathname and do one of these:
- Press Enter.
- Select an action bar choice.
-
On 1 Mar 2007 21:57:44 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Hello Howard,
what our and we ?!?!
I work outside my country of citizenship, in an Asian country, for a global
multi-national company, which happens to be headquartered in USA.
We run applications for my host country and also
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Phil Payne wrote:
They had Memorex Double Density 3350s with IDI - Intelligent Dual Interface.
Was ever
anything so inappropriately named? A status bus parity check - a common
occurence - caused
all IDI-linked controllers to forget all owed interrupts. Total system hang.
SVS had a MIH,
Phil, I'd LOVE to find the source code for those systems, to add to my
archives. G
Phil Payne wrote:
SVS was bizarrely popular in Germany, and lived on there for longer than almost
anywhere. IBM
Bonn produced an _excellent_ SVS 1.7K DLIB tape that really was well sorted out
and I had over
On 1 Mar 2007 21:57:44 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Hewson)
wrote:
what our and we ?!?!
I was responding to someone objecting to outsourcing for security
reasons - I hope that my answer applies to a variable we.
In the example of defeating the USSR, it was the wealth of the West
that won -
Back on January 24, 2007, I appended here that I'd put the z/OS R8
coexistence PTFs in the z/OS R5, R6, and R7 ZOSGEN PSP buckets. The
addition of these PTFs to the PSP buckets made it possible to
programmatically determine if you had the appropriate coexistence service on
your current system for
Debbie, ISHELL is not a 'normal' shell environment. You navigate
directories by using the ISPF interface not the command line.
If you want to get to a directory you can type it's fully qualified path
on the four blank lines on the main ISHELL panel, or, you can type the
first directory and use
I don't get any message at all, but a subsequent 'pwd' still shows root
Broken as designed.
The command issues the cd as a separate process.
That process goes to the correct directory and then terminates.
So, you are back where you started.
That's why you have the directory stuff on the ishell
CICS by default produces giant volumes of SMF data, and much of it is
probably never even looked at. I've seen sites where CICS was
responsible for well over 80% of the SMF data, and all they extracted
from it was transaction cpu and response time, a few bytes worth of data
per kilobyte produced.
RESENT
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Carol A Srna/MI/CMA
03/02/2007 10:51 AM
To
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
cc
Subject
Re: SAS IF Statement with ANDs and ORs
Many thanks to all who responded, both ON/OFFline.
Larry K.
L.
Have you tried to use the tools dropdown. You can run scripts from there.
Jim McAlpine
On 3/2/07, Debbie Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't understand what you're saying. At entry to ishell is
the place where you specify the directory you want to work in:
-
Once Again Hi All. Last night this message appeared on the master
console. I allocated another COMMON PAGE dataset larger and IPLed. We
came back up. Did I have to IPL? Why would our PAGE datasets be so full?
The last IPL was Sept. 2006.
Any ideas or explanations are greatly appreciated. We
Thank you all for your clarification. A coworker was trying to run an IVP
and the only way he knew how to do anything in OMVS/USS was through ishell.
When it wasn't working, I got caught up in this tangent. Now at least I
understand a little better what ishell does/doesn't do well and I will
Based on the ASM display below, it would seem that you ran out of common
pgspc.
You are in serious danger of another un-scheduled IPL based on your
posting below.
1) PLPA overflowing to common. This is not an issue. Many shops set up
to run
this way. Check the archives.
2) COMMON 97% full.
I have a situation where I went into the ISMF Panel 7 to test the ACS code with
my dataset name.
The test showed me the SC, SG, DC, MC that would be used and it was correct.
When I ran my job, the file was placed elsewhere, not using the SC, SG, DC, or
MC that test showed it would.
Has
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:18:02 -0500, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a situation where I went into the ISMF Panel 7 to test the ACS code
with my dataset name.
The test showed me the SC, SG, DC, MC that would be used and it was
correct.
When I ran my job, the file was placed
There have been no changes to the ACS routines. The ACS code has been running
as is for 6 months.
I am just curious if it could happen that the ACS TEST Function does not show
what happens when it really runs.
I was under the impression that TEST should show me what will really happen.
For
Not only is it Danger Danger Will Robinson - but the robot's arms are
flailing around and Dr. Smith is crying Ooh the pain
You either have not enough local page datasets for your workload or
there are one or more address spaces that are chewing up your auxiliary
storage.
Coupled with that
I'm curious, normally when I'm putting maintenance on the operating system
and I receive the dreaded D37 abend on a load library where the library
can't be comressed any further, I will allocate a new larger library with
all the same attributes and use IEBCOPY to copy everything over. My
question
Allan,
Rob Scott's answer is probably what is happening to you.
As an example, we just went through the same sort of problem. A vendor
monitor was issuing getmain for some function, and never issuing
freemain when finished with the storage. It built up over time to the
point that the monitor
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:51:50 -0500, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was under the impression that TEST should show me what will really
happen.
Lizette
It should. Is the CDS name of the SCDS on the option 7 screen where you
type 4 to test the same as the one that is activated
As far as SMS is concerned, no changes. ACDS, SCDS, ACS Code all the same for
the last 6 months. No changes to this particular problem.
Should look like this:
Data Set Name . . . . : SYSM.SYNCSORT.R1M2.SMPTLIB.BSSIB12.F2
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:18:32 -0500, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the actual allocation it gets a DATACLAS of ACTM, but TEST show NULL
Lizette
The file types are different between F1 F2. F1 is a PS and F2 is a PO.
Try the test again with a Dsorg of PO and see what happens.
Humor us and post the data class ACS routine.
You do have the DATACLAS field on the Test Case panels BLANK, don't
you?
Bob Richards
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:19 PM
To:
In a message dated 3/2/2007 12:27:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As far as SMS is concerned, no changes. ACDS, SCDS, ACS Code all the same
for the last 6 months. No changes to this particular problem.
Isn't there an SMPTLIB parm for SMP/E that specifies
snip
ob Scott's answer is probably what is happening to you.
As an example, we just went through the same sort of problem. A vendor
monitor was issuing getmain for some function, and never issuing
freemain when finished with the storage. It built up over time to the
point that the monitor had
My question is since the blksizes of the datasets are identical is it ok to
just use IEBCOPY without COPYMOD? I'm assuming I would only need copymod if
the blocksize were different and the modules needed re-blocked
Why worry?
Just do it!
It couldn't hurt.
What do you think you're gaining by
The DC routine is over 600 lines long. I do not see that appropriate for the
list. Besides after that you would ask for the SC, MC, and SG stuff.
So thanks, but I will go another route.
However, from the response I have, I see that this is not normal.
I will open a PMR to SMS and see what
I was just curious, when using ISPF 3.3 its default is to only use copymod
if the blocksizes differ. If no copymod is ok with ISPF I guess its ok with
me. I've never had any issues not using copymod on load libraries.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
There is a broadcast headline message on the IBM ResourceLink web site
today announcing downtime tomorrow March 3, 2007 starting at 11 pm eastern
standard time and ending March 4, 2007 at 2 pm eastern standard time.
This is of particular significance to those who might be planning to place
Hi, All,
A couple Sundays ago we deployed z/OS 1.7 to Production, and shortly
thereafter learned the hard way that we had omitted one loadlib from
the link list. We dynamically added the missing library, and I issued
an LLA REFRESH.
We also have a couple application loadlibs managed by LLA
Lizzette,
If you change the CDS name to 'ACTIVE', your test case will be run against
what is
actually in use. If you have different results, you should check out the
date and time
each routine was last translated between the source CDS and the active CDS
on
ISMF panel 7 | 5 (Display).
Regards,
You need to open a PMR with IBM. If it were me, I'd start with component
5752SC1CJ Contents Supervision.
Brian
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:47:34 -0600, Chase, John wrote:
Hi, All,
A couple Sundays ago we deployed z/OS 1.7 to Production, and shortly
thereafter learned the hard way that we had
On 3/2/2007 3:01 PM, Chase, John wrote:
The question: Why does LLA REFRESH request / require UPDATE access to
loadlibs, instead of just READ?
I don't know for sure, but I think it's likely that the designers
decided that, for security or integrity reasons, only someone authorized
to update
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:47:34 -0600, Chase, John wrote:
The question: Why does LLA REFRESH request / require UPDATE access to
loadlibs, instead of just READ?
See note 5:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICHZA760/7.17?SHELF=ICHZBK61DT=20050713233738
Norbert Friemel
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:29:28 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
Phil Payne wrote:
They had Memorex Double Density 3350s with IDI - Intelligent Dual
Interface. Was ever
anything so inappropriately named? A status bus parity check - a common
occurence - caused
all IDI-linked
Clark Morris wrote:
So the jackasses will have cost the company far more than the 20
million dollars by their opposition. Does anyone really think that 54
gigabytes per volume is going to be other than totally inadequate in
the next ten years? Laptops now have 100 gigabytes and up on a single
Clark Morris wrote:
So the jackasses will have cost the company far more than the 20
million dollars by their opposition. Does anyone really think that 54
gigabytes per volume is going to be other than totally inadequate in
the next ten years? Laptops now have 100 gigabytes and up on a single
On 3/2/2007 3:33 PM, Brian Peterson wrote:
You need to open a PMR with IBM. If it were me, I'd start with component
5752SC1CJ Contents Supervision.
Why would he need a PMR? It's working as it's documented to work.
Walt Farrell, CISSP
z/OS Security Design, IBM
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 15:00 -0700, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
actually I used similar argument as part of the original
justification ... projecting enormous total life-cycle cost savings by
moving to FBA ... in addition to a whole variety of performance
improvements that would come as part of
The limit for CKD volumes is a little more than 54GB. I come up with a
number closer to 500GB. Past that and IBM will need to go to logical
volumes on a physical volume. The reason is the CCHHR count field.
Max CC is , which give 65536 cylinders (don't forget cylinder 0)
Max HH is E, which
Sorry - you are correct, of course.
Brian
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:23:01 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote:
On 3/2/2007 3:33 PM, Brian Peterson wrote:
You need to open a PMR with IBM. If it were me, I'd start with component
5752SC1CJ Contents Supervision.
Why would he need a PMR? It's working as it's
Did you get any other messages? With the local page data sets this full you
should have experienced an Auxiliary Storage Shortage (IRA200E), since this
occurs when 70% or greater of all available slots are in use. If your page
data sets are all of comparable size you were already at almost
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:02:38 -0600, Debbie Mitchell wrote:
Thank you all for your clarification. A coworker was trying to run an IVP
and the only way he knew how to do anything in OMVS/USS was through ishell.
When it wasn't working, I got caught up in this tangent. Now at least I
In a message dated 3/2/2007 4:58:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
surfaced rather suddenly since it is unlikely that you ran in this state for
any length of time. You should have also received message IRA203E which
indicates the heaviest Auxiliary Storage users.
Blaicher, Chris wrote:
The limit for CKD volumes is a little more than 54GB. I come up with a
number closer to 500GB. Past that and IBM will need to go to logical
volumes on a physical volume. The reason is the CCHHR count field.
Max CC is , which give 65536 cylinders (don't forget
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:01:30 +0100, CAPRON Romain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
DEFINE CLUSTER (NAME(SYS1.VVDS.Vvolser) -
NIXD VOL(volser) -
TRK(45,1))
That seems to me to be kind of a strange way to allocate them.
The default allocation is TRK(5,5) That allows for a
What I thought would be a longer term employment as a contractor, and
possibly a full time position, is ending in 2 weeks. Back to unemployment
again. They didn't have as much work as they thought, and a new hire in the
mainframe middleware department has been doing a lot in the z/OS areas.
Blaicher, Chris wrote:
The limit for CKD volumes is a little more than 54GB. I come up with a
number closer to 500GB. Past that and IBM will need to go to logical
volumes on a physical volume. The reason is the CCHHR count field.
Max CC is , which give 65536 cylinders (don't forget
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:35:23 -0600, Blaicher, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The limit for CKD volumes is a little more than 54GB. I come up with a
number closer to 500GB. Past that and IBM will need to go to logical
volumes on a physical volume. The reason is the CCHHR count field.
Max CC is
I recently purchased a number of unused disk packs for the RD-281/
drive. These contain 11 14 platters, with the top platter being
double layer (two platters stuck together). The bottom shield has 20
notches along the perimeter, with one being a double notch. The IBM
p/n is 3904903, and they are
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 18:11 -0600, Richard Peurifoy wrote:
This is probably easier than FBA at this point, but I don't
really know.
Introducing a new DASD architecture should be a doddle. New playing
field - the old world doesn't even need to know it exists.
If they can slip media manager
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/02/2007
04:35:23 PM:
The limit for CKD volumes is a little more than 54GB. I come up with a
number closer to 500GB. Past that and IBM will need to go to logical
volumes on a physical volume. The reason is the CCHHR count field.
No need for a dump this can be done using active.
Roland
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,
On 2 Mar 2007 14:42:07 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blaicher,
Chris) wrote:
The limit for CKD volumes is a little more than 54GB. I come up with a
number closer to 500GB. Past that and IBM will need to go to logical
volumes on a physical volume. The reason is the CCHHR count field.
Max CC is
All right. Damn extra keystroke. Should have checked that. :(
Nothing like embarrassing yourself to the world.
Christopher Y. Blaicher
BMC Software, Inc.
Austin Development Labs
(512) 340-6154
The comments made are my personal opinions. BMC Software, Inc. makes no
representations or promises
George,
If the blocksizes are the same, IEBCOPY without copymod works fine. I think
you can copy to an equal or larger BLKSIZE without having to use copymod.
Eric Bielefeld
Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer
TekSystems
Dodgeville, Wisconsin
414-475-7434
- Original Message -
From: George
In a message dated 3/2/2007 8:16:31 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No need for a dump this can be done using active.
Yeah, but if all the terminals are locked up...
BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free
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At 11:40 +1000 on 03/03/2007, Shane wrote about Re: FBA rant:
Introducing a new DASD architecture should be a doddle. New playing
field - the old world doesn't even need to know it exists.
If they can slip media manager code in under the covers, why can't
they also add new functionality just
At 18:22 +1100 on 02/19/2007, Ken Brick wrote about Re: IBM S/360
series operating systems history:
DOS/VS R27 1972-73 timeframe - check when the small 370'e (135 145)
become available
That was DOS/370 R27. It was NOT a VS system (that was R28 I think).
This ran on 370 135/145 BEFORE the
At 20:55 -0500 on 02/20/2007, Thompson, Steve wrote about Re: IBM
S/360 series operating systems history:
I had a friend
who worked for Holiday Inns at Holiday City in Memphis back about 1977
where they were still running TOS (I think he had 128K) with 2311 disk
drives (if I remember the model
At 13:05 -0500 on 02/19/2007, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about
Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history:
Second, you list releases of OS/360 that have nothing to do with
OS/360: OS/360 BOS-8k, OS/360 BPS, OS/360 TOS, OS/360 BOS-16k
and OS/360 DOS-16k. BPS/360 was not much more than a
At 15:08 -0800 on 02/20/2007, Charles Mills wrote about Re: IBM S/360
series operating systems history:
TOS was a piece of work! Every time you linkedited a program (all executable
programs in DOS/TOS in those days lived in SYSRES) it copied the SYSRES from
tape to tape, kind of like a good
At 18:53 -0500 on 02/28/2007, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote
about Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history:
MVT was first virtualized in early 1974 as OS/VS2 Release 1, better known as
SVS (Single Virtual Storage). A fuller version, OS/VS2 Release 2, was
available a year or so
If you have OMEGAMON you can track CSA usage, or, you can take
a dump and use IPCS to see who is using it.
No need for a dump this can be done using active.
Sorry to disagree, but these points are irrelevant. There is nothing here to
suggest that CSA itself is becoming full, but only that
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