Actually Shmuel, according to IBMLINK on the web, it is Electronic
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 04/19/2007
at 03:44 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I don't know anything
about Bookmangler, but isn't is derived from DCF?
BookMaster was implemented as a set of Script Macros, similar to the
GML Starter Set but more comprehensive. BookManager/BUILD extended
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/24/2007
at 11:28 AM, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Strange. ISTR using TSO under Release 18.6 of MVT. Communications
were via TCAM.
Well, communications was via TCAM.
Wrong, oh how wrong! The Master Scheduler was the boss of
allocation and was invoked by
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 04/24/2007
at 03:28 PM, Kirk Talman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Was SVC 99 the other name for the DAIR (dynamic allocation interface
routine(s?)) or did it replace them?
No.
In S229-3169-3 (1971Jul no release) SVC32 shows parm of R1--UCB
list but no mention of DSN,
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/18/2007
at 11:08 AM, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Something is wrong with the second syntax
Nothing is wrong with the syntax.
Is DSN in an authorized library? Is it in the authorized commands
table?
Something is wrong with the second syntax , can you please
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/13/2007
at 06:09 AM, Nasuh KARAHALLI [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Good news, focused on the datasets in our logon procedure and clists
and been tracking every dataset one by one. In logon clist ISPPDF
delivered in CPAC.CMRPROC there exists a tso related load module
In a recent note, Ed Gould said:
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:43:21 -0500
There is also the poor design of Tape Labels where you have only 17
positions to store the last 17 characters of 18-44 character long
There must be a history behind this decision. Can anyone share it?
Is it
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J.)
[ snip ]
Take it out, take it out, take it out, remove it! ...
Ooh, another Oscar Brand fan! :-)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 5:55 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS 1.8 reliability question
If you're up to z/OS 1.5 or better then you could always set
Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
In a recent note, Ed Gould said:
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:43:21 -0500
There is also the poor design of Tape Labels where you have only
17
positions to store the last 17 characters of 18-44
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In a recent note, Ed Gould said:
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007
Thank you listers, I was able to download it.
Regards,
Vinod Kumar
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Paul Gilmartin wrote:
In a recent note, Rob Scott said:
Subject: Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes
Haven't you two guys just re-created the apocryphal IEFBR14 APAR ?
I find the word apocryphal well-chosen insofar as the many times I've heard
this story I can't
But why does the deficiency persist into the 21st century?
Backward compatability?
Lack of programming staff?
Priority of other issues?
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 07:01:06 -0400, Bob Shannon
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In our shop FEKFRSRV is in a service class of SYSOTHER even though I
explicitly defined it to go into another service class. I assumed it was
an STC. What do I have to do to get this thing out of SYSOTHER? TIA.
Bob,
Is
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 07:30:52 -0500, McKown, John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought the clock started when I first ordered 1.8. I.e. order 1.8
on ??? and you'd better be off of 1.6 by ???+nnn days (or whatever). I
will admit that I've never had to work with marketting much, so I don't
know the
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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:07 AM
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Subject: Re: z/OS 1.8 reliability question
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 07:30:52 -0500, McKown, John
[EMAIL
In case the above subject interests anyone, IBM has published a paper entitled
z/OS IP Network Security: Capacity Planning for zIIP Assisted IPSec.
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27009459amp;aid=1
Interesting read I must say.
Have fun and good luck.
Gary Green
On 4/25/2007 8:24 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Is it sufficient explanation that storage used to be expensive?
But why does the deficiency persist into the 21st century?
Perhaps because it's difficult to change standards and get everyone to
recode their applications, especially across different
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/24/2007
at 03:18 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Not if the changes also retained information about where each member
ends.
Are you taking about modifying the directory structure? If not, they
have to find it before they can retain it. If so, they'd have
On 25 Apr 2007 05:24:30 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:
Is it sufficient explanation that storage used to be expensive?
But why does the deficiency persist into the 21st century?
Change is expensive.
That said, a big reason that OS-X has fewer vulnerabilities than
Windows
Forwarded for a colleague
Late last year, we migrated from several strings of Fujitsu
Spectris DASD to a single EMC-DMX3 disk subsystem.
The question is whether we still need to run our regularly
scheduled ADRDSSU DEFRAGs against
Because of their lax security measures, they now face several lawsuits.
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci1252778,00.html?track=NL-102ad=584963USCAasrc=EM_NLN_1351918uid=1900046
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My guess is that we do, because it still looks like (E)CKD to z/OS.
Yes. You have to.
We have a DS8300, and we are still running DEFRAG.
The problem is due to the same ECKD limitations being carried forward.
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From: John Benik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: RMM Discrete profiles
We are trying to find the best way to stop using discrete profiles for at
least
our virtual tape environment. What is the
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From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: Do we have to defrag MVS volumes on newer generation disk
arrays?
My guess is that we do, because it still looks like (E)CKD to z/OS.
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Because of their lax security measures, they now face several lawsuits.
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci1252778,00.html?track=NL-102ad=584963USCAasrc=EM_NLN_1351918uid=1900046
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Subject: Re: FW: Do we have to defrag MVS volumes on newer generation
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Chase, John wrote:
Forwarded
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Subject: Re: Not mainframe but the latest in the TJMax fisaco
Always looking at the flip-side huh Rick...? GGG
As an aside...
This particular situation makes me wonder... How large can some of the data
stores on the other platforms grow to and how easy is it to process those
records?
Yesterday I needed to sort about 46 million SMF records, the same
Here's what I received from the security group regarding BLP.
If your system supports BLP processing, RACF provides installations with
the ability to control the use of the BLP option on JCL DD statements. To
control who can use BLP, take the following steps:
1. Activate the TAPEVOL
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Always looking at the flip-side huh Rick...?
Two possibilities that I can think of (perhaps more) ...
The FEKFRSRV task is not really an STC, but a (1) APPC task of a (2) USS
task. In case (1), this task name should be placed in the ASCH subsystem
entry under WLM option 6. In case (2), this task should be placed in the
OMVS subsystem
I guess a security mind-set is necessary at appropriate levels of the
organization, and this organization appears to have had no such mind-set.
BACK patting
Back in the mid 90's I designed and wrote a small system for one of the
brokerage houses. This system replaced the then current method of
Yeah... Makes perfect sense. I did not think about it like that.
Thanks.
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Where can we get volume 6? Searched the Redbooks site to no avail.
Thanks, Mac.
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:13:15 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/24/2007
at 03:18 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Not if the changes also retained information about where each member
ends.
Are you taking about modifying the directory structure? If
Avivah Litan, vice president of research with Stamford, Conn.-based Gartner
Inc., has called the TJX breach the largest online burglary ever.
If Gartner says it, it must be true then :-)
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:10:15 -0700, John R. Ehrman wrote:
The new updated to the z/Architecture Principles of Operation is now
available at
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/a2278325.pdf
With the new instructions, I now count 751 instructions documented in the
POO. That's up a lot
Gary Green wrote:
Always looking at the flip-side huh Rick...? GGG
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My job for 23 years was, in part, to play Devil's Advocate and help
find holes in others' solutions.
I have to admit: I rather enjoyed it at
--snip
Avivah Litan, vice president of research with Stamford, Conn.-based Gartner Inc.,
has called the TJX breach the largest online burglary ever.
If Gartner says it, it must be true then :-)
One of the good intangibles about z/OS (and, MVS/ESA, and MVS/XA, and.. )
reliability is that when you call support with a problem, they usually
work on the problem. With those other guys and even with some vendors on
z/OS who code on other platforms and then port to z/oS, you often spend
the
snip-
The new updated to the z/Architecture Principles of Operation is now
available at
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/a2278325.pdf
With the new instructions, I now count 751 instructions documented in the
POO. That's up a lot
Rick Fochtman Wrote:
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My job for 23 years was, in part, to play Devil's Advocate and help
find holes in others' solutions.
I have to admit: I rather enjoyed it at times. Wasn't overjoyed when my
solutions had problems but
Mac - that publication is not available yet but the good news is that IBM
does plan to do it (at least at one point they did).
here is a page with links to all the ABC publications
http://www.lbdsoftware.com/abcs.html
Cheers
Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist
Enterprise Platform Services,
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:16:47 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:
With the new instructions, I now count 751 instructions documented in the
POO. That's up a lot from the (IIRC) 143 for S/360.
It's called evolution, son. Like it or not, we're stuck with it and it
can be a good thing, in spite of
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snip
That wasn't a complaint. Actually, I do like it, even
Hello: Is there a way to prevent the SYSDSN ENQ from being removed when you
dynamically de-allocate a data set?
There is the parameter S99NORES to prevent the ENQ from being done when the
data set is allocated, but no corresponding parameter on the de-allocation.
Thank you.
Paul Schuster
On 25 Apr 2007 12:41:18 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John)
wrote:
Paraphrasing: Having so many instructions will simply confuse the
programmer! Better to have one, true way than many.
http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2007/04/the_virtues_of_monoculture
html
This article is basically
Tim Hare wrote:
One of the good intangibles about z/OS (and, MVS/ESA, and MVS/XA, and.. )
reliability is that when you call support with a problem, they usually
work on the problem. With those other guys and even with some vendors on
z/OS who code on other platforms and then port to z/oS, you
I'm inclined to agree; continue the DEFRAG operations.
Depends. If you defined / migrated all of the DASD to say ... mod-27 or
larger, you probably never need to worry about contiguous space. :-)
Mark
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Couldn't agree more Rick! In the good ole days - maybe 20 years back - when
Gartner spoke, people listened. Unfortunately, their current 'experts' have
probably never seen a mainframe, nor could they spell it.
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snip
*They* have a culture of attempting to reproduce errors on
In a message dated 4/25/2007 1:41:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With the new instructions, I now count 751 instructions documented in the
POO. That's up a lot from the (IIRC) 143 for S/360.
I do something similar, but less time-consuming. I look at the number
Paul,
There is a way: SVC screening, but not for the faint of heart, nor do I
recommend it.
Tom Harper
NEON Enterprise Software, Inc.
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Gee, the POO I use (paper) tops out at around 175 pages...
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In a message dated 4/25/2007 3:19:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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Gee, the POO I use (paper) tops out at around 175 pages...
How does it check for floating point decimal?
** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Just 'cause it's 37 years out of date is no reason to pick on it...
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The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That makes sense. But continuing that thought, I see Apple, which
doesn't try to make its OS be all things for all
John McKown writes:
This article is basically about why Microsoft is better than Linux in
some ways. Linux has too many competing ways to do something whereas
Microsoft is usually monolithic. And lack of choice is superior
because choice leads to confusion.
without necessarily subscribing
You need only one instruction: DOIT
The rest is just operands and microding
g,d, r
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Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That makes sense. But continuing that thought, I see Apple, which
doesn't try to make its OS be all things for all people
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/05/2007
at 06:05 AM, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
For some reason, PL/I shops have tended to keep object code and they
do a lot of re-linking
Because it's less hassle and more efficient. But that doesn't require
extraneous recompiles.
1. If you call
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/05/2007
at 11:00 AM, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
My memory may be pretty hazy here, but wasn't the 2302 a fixed-head
design ??
No. The 1301, 1302 and 2302 were moving-head disks. You may be
thinking of the 2301 and 2303, which were fixed head drums,
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 04/05/2007
at 10:51 AM, Thompson, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
And wasn't it NIH
NIH isn't OSI or SSI. NIH Wylbur was not the only competition.
Tell me again what your experience is to know all this?
You mean other than using both OBS Wylbur and SuperWylbur? But
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/11/2007
at 08:05 AM, IBMsysProg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
ISAM or Indexed Sequential Access Method was about the second access
method produced by IBM for data storage and retrieval especially for
new fangled devices called disk drives
FSVO newfangled; IBM's first
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/19/2007
at 02:05 PM, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Oh, oh. An assumption I've had for many years is about to get shot
down.
But not the assumption you were thinking of ;-)
What does an SVCDUMP give you that an MDUMP doesn't?
What did you think that
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:51:56 -0500 Paul Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
:Hello: Is there a way to prevent the SYSDSN ENQ from being removed when you
:dynamically de-allocate a data set?
:There is the parameter S99NORES to prevent the ENQ from being done when the
:data set is allocated, but no
Paul,
A better way to do this is to issue your own ENQ and then use S99NORES
to prevent allocation from issuing the ENQ/DEQ.
Tom Harper
NEON Enterprise Software, Inc.
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: sysdsn enq
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:51:56 -0500
Someone asked the question about what good are reading tapes NL. There are
valid reasons and these go back to the early years before diskettes, etc, when
people wanted to tansfer data. Early, early on the universal mode of transfer
was 7-track tape, BCD, Even-parity with no labels. People have
On 4/25/2007 3:52 PM, Paul Schuster wrote:
Hello: Is there a way to prevent the SYSDSN ENQ from being removed when you
dynamically de-allocate a data set?
There is the parameter S99NORES to prevent the ENQ from being done when the
data set is allocated, but no corresponding parameter on the
In a recent note, Walt Farrell said:
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:28:23 -0400
Hello: Is there a way to prevent the SYSDSN ENQ from being removed when you
dynamically de-allocate a data set?
Out of curiosity, why would you want to do that? What purpose does it
serve to hold the
After all, batch processing FREEs all data sets between steps, but continues
to hold the ENQ if a subsequent step uses the same data set name.
I don't thinks that's accurate.
DSN allocation is not cleared until EOJ.
Hence the scramble with GDG's in a job, especially if you create more than one
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/25/2007
at 01:33 PM, Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Probably not. There is already space in the directory for user
data and IEBCOPY can already deal with that just fine. They would,
however, break every program that uses the user data area in the
directory
On Apr 25, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
In a recent note, Ed Gould said:
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:43:21 -0500
There is also the poor design of Tape Labels where you have only 17
positions to store the last 17 characters of 18-44 character long
There must be a history
Ryerson University in Toronto, Canada has announced a new certificate
program focusing on z/OS technology that will start up in the fall.
http://www.ryerson.ca/ce/mainframe
Nice to hear some good news for a change.
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In a message dated 4/25/2007 10:04:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ryerson University in Toronto, Canada has announced a new certificate
program focusing on z/OS technology that will start up in the fall.
Maybe they're getting better, we had a CE go to 9370
At 19:35 -0600 on 04/25/2007, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: sysdsn enq:
After all, batch processing FREEs all data sets between steps, but
continues to hold the ENQ if a subsequent step uses the same data
set name.
Unfortunately due to a poor design in the ENQ support code it can be
forced
Ryerson University in Toronto, Canada has announced a new certificate program
focusing on z/OS technology that will start up in the fall.
It was actually supposed to start in the spring, but there wasn't enough
interest, so it got post-poned.
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IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/25/2007
11:37:30 AM:
What does an SVCDUMP give you that an MDUMP doesn't?
What did you think that an MDUMP is? The dump that ABEND takes for
SYSMDUMP, like the dump that the DUMP and SLIP commands take, is an
SVC dump.
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