IBM has published z/OS v2.1 preview at
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=877letternum=ENUSZP13-0013
There is also a preview of z/VM v6.3 at
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 10:16:38 +0200, GADI wrote:
IBM has published z/OS v2.1 preview at ...
And just today I was discussing who might be ESP candidates here in Aus.
So z/OSMF rolls on - IBMs push to quarantine all us old souls (???) in the
chook pen.
The RMF records for Linux (on z, zBX) looks a
snip John's post of JES enhancements
Lots of JES2 and JES3 work being done, a lot of it pointing to convergence
of the two products.
Interesting stuff.
Cheers,,Steve
Steven F. Conway, CISSP
LA Systems
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Phone: 703.295.1926
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Creating JES2 was a half ASP job.
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On 2/5/2013 6:44 AM, Richard Pinion wrote:
Creating JES2 was a half ASP job.
Actually, my understanding was that it went the
other way: lots of HASP code was lifted into
ASP. There was probably some borrowing in the
other direction, too, I would imagine.
(For the relative newcomers in the
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh*t.
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On Mon, Feb 4,
Is this release in fact to be denominated 2.1?
Doing so would break with IBM's tradition of beginning the numbering
of new versions with 2.0 and the like (and it would be one more
instance of dumbing down).
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
Love it
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On Feb 5, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Richard Pinion rpin...@netscape.com wrote:
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh*t.
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 06:59:41 -0700, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com
wrote:
On 2/5/2013 6:44 AM, Richard Pinion wrote:
Creating JES2 was a half ASP job.
Actually, my understanding was that it went the
other way: lots of HASP code was lifted into
ASP. There was probably some borrowing in
That is: blind them with brilliance, in order to be alliterative. grin/
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Richard Pinion rpin...@netscape.com wrote:
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh*t.
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There was no z/OS 1.0. It went from OS/390 2.10 to z/OS 1.1.
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Is this release in
John Gilmore wrote:
Is this release in fact to be denominated 2.1?
Yes. It is true. Delivery schedule and lifetime of z/OS levels have also
changed. Check with big blue for details.
Groete / Greetings
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:08:53 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
Is this release in fact to be denominated 2.1?
Doing so would break with IBM's tradition of beginning the numbering
of new versions with 2.0 and the like
That's version 2, Release 1.
I don't think I've ever seen any release of IBM software
All this has become tedious.
I write as I think appropriate, and I shall continue to do so.
Dumbing down what I post in deference to the sensibilites of the
subliterate would be patronizing too.
As I have said before, those who do not wish to see what I write have
a simple, effective remedy
On 2/5/2013 6:20 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:08:53 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
Is this release in fact to be denominated 2.1?
Doing so would break with IBM's tradition of beginning the numbering
of new versions with 2.0 and the like
That's version 2, Release 1.
I don't
OK now Gilmore, that last sentence made my head spin. .more
coffee, more coffee...
On 2/4/2013 6:14 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
Working habits and methods vary widely. Results are crucial, the path
taken to reach them is not.
Haruspicina is messy; but If, improbably, an augur
I was wrong, and those who responded correcting my error were right.
In the old days of versions and modification levels, zero-origin
numbering was used; and it is still used in numbering manuals; but
that is another, different practice.
A foolish consistency is, after all, the hobgoblin of
Not that anybody likely cares, but I don't mind use of unusual words,
so long as they are accurate. Would I use them? Perhaps so, perhaps
no. If I am really trying to explain something to a newbie, or a
non-native speaker, then I likely wouldn't. And I especially would not
if a person is having a
John Gilmore wrote:
I was wrong,
No, but perhaps being confused just like me who expected z/OS v1.14, v1.15,
v1.16, etc.
When I asked, at a zEC12 announcement venue, that question to an IBMer, I got a
reply about delivery schedule, etc.
So, I think it is a time for that big blue one for a
On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 19:14:58 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
Working habits and methods vary widely. Results are crucial, the path
taken to reach them is not.
Haruspicina is messy; but If, improbably, an augur got good results by
framing a cloud bank with his lituus, I would applaud.
Sometimes one
No, but perhaps being confused just like me who expected z/OS v1.14, v1.15,
v1.16, etc.
How far in advance of GA do you expect IBM to announce things such as version
changes? If you knew six months earlier would you have done anything
differently?
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
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What about companies not running a Z9 ?
You mean, like a 3081?
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On 2/5/13, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 07:27:11 -0600, John McKown wrote:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=877letternum=ENUSZP13-0013
In z/OS V2.1, a
Hi
Searching for a simple tool , which can load a number of modules to an
address space and starts a server.
(for example the HTTP server) .
For a number of different servers, we noticed that the performance would
be better, if the called programs would be preloaded.
An option would be to
We've got a weird one. The tester is getting a dynamic allocation error.
The message from Endevor is:
C1A0010E ALLOCATION ERROR RC=9700-03E9, DDNAME=
I can find the 9700. But I can't find any 03E9 in any IBM manual. Also, I
don't know why the DDNAME is blank. From looking at the SCL processor,
John McKownwrote:
The message from Endevor is:
C1A0010E ALLOCATION ERROR RC=9700-03E9, DDNAME=
What is the level of Endevor and your z/OS?
From looking at the SCL processor, each time the DSN is referenced, it is
the only DSN in the DD statement.
Is that DSN the only one in the TSO? Ie, no
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 10:33:56 -0600, John McKown wrote:
Well, if the library is executable code in a PDS, you can put the library
into the LLA. This means that the first time a module is loaded, it will be
cached in LLA. Subsequent loads will come from LLA. So you could do the
preloading by running
3 options
1 - Upgrade your box.
2 - Stay on 1.13 forever.
3 - Move off the Mainframe.
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Endevor is release 12. Can't go to 15 do to some problems; which requires
changing some SCL; which is what this is trying to test. z/OS is 1.12.
User is in split screen, but only using Endevor in one screen.
The first reference to the dataset in the SCL is
I'm pretty sure it caches the module.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 10:33:56 -0600, John McKown wrote:
Well, if the library is executable code in a PDS, you can put the library
into the LLA. This means that the first time a
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:27:50 +0100, Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
Searching for a simple tool , which can load a number of modules to an
address space and starts a server.
(for example the HTTP server) .
For a number of different servers, we noticed that the performance would
be better, if the called
This is an old discussion. Why is storage allocated in doublewords on
doubleword boundaries? This is done because the most exigent
historical alignment requirements are met by doing so. (Very
specialized quadword-alignment requirements do now sometimes arise.)
Storing current length in a
On 02/05/2013 10:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 10:33:56 -0600, John McKown wrote:
Well, if the library is executable code in a PDS, you can put the library
into the LLA. This means that the first time a module is loaded, it will be
cached in LLA. Subsequent loads will come
Hi
In our cases the servers are using a relative small number of large
modules very often .
The LLA VLF would help, but is a sever specific case and not a
system-wide case.
I see also that the code would be not very complicated, but maybe there
is a code for this somewhere...
On
Hello,
Am I the only one who misses the rationale behind the z/OS installation and
maintenance of SAS 9.2 (and now 9.3) using the Software Depot? I imagine it
would be more palatable if it was straight foward and error free. Also, has
anyone evaluated (or converted to) the World Programming
I found this in QuickRef - A dynamic allocation error occurred for the named
data set. Refer to the
appropriate IBM documentation for your operating system for a definition
of the return and reason codes. If DDname and DSname are blank; then the
data set that failed to allocate is
Might well be both. There are a dozen or so companies with trademarks on
MVS. Here's one
MVS
Goods and Services IC 006. US 002 012 013 014 023 025 050. G S: Metal
fasteners, namely, threaded fasteners, metal wheel fasteners, nuts, nuts for
special applications, nuts for mounting axle bearings,
We had a similar problem with IBM's XML parser, which is huge and was
constantly being reFETCHed.
At startup time we went through a list of programs and loaded them and threw
away the returned address.
These modules are now loaded with a use count of 1.
All subsequent LOADs/FETCHes finds them
Many thanks to both of you!
That at least points me in the right direction. Unfortunately, there is no
dump, so I would have problems finding the IGD1001I message. But I guess
that I can do something with the ACS routines. I'll look up that C1SORTIO
in the manuals, too
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at
SYS13036.T095110.RA0.TSH012.COBLST
At a quick glance this looks like a temporary dataset. Could you have two
similarly named trying to be allocated within the same second 09:51:10?
Mike Wawiorko
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Interesting bit in the announcement:
In z/OS V2.1, support is planned to allow the Hardware Management Console
Integrated 3270 Console on System z and zEnterprise servers to be used as a
z/OS console during and after IPL. This capability is intended to add another
backup console and to allow
Hi
Thank you Ron.
( I will do this, I'm happy to find somebody with the similar problem)
On 05.02.2013 18:36, Ron MacRae wrote:
We had a similar problem with IBM's XML parser, which is huge and was
constantly being reFETCHed.
At startup time we went through a list of programs and loaded
Btwrong! Jack posted a link with the gory details a few years back
but can't find it. (Maybe it's a .pdf) It really was Half-ASP. Got cleaned
up to become Houston-ASP.
In a message dated 2/5/2013 8:00:13 A.M. Central Standard Time,
st...@trainersfriend.com writes:
Actually, my
Gil:
Like z/PDT ...because 1090 is emulation, I think it can run emulating a z9..
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
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From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com
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Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 11:00 AM
One of my first SHAREs the UNIJES project was kicking off. Think one of my
associates was on the team. I got trolled into SPF. Bob Shannon said due
to politics UNIJES eventually got scrubbed
The 'SUMMA CUM JES' badge was interesting. #441 1171 and 1172 at
_www.mxg.com_
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 10:08:25 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
My experience with my children confirmed these notions. I never used
a subset of my vocabulary in talking with them, and in the upshot they
acquired my vocabulary early on.
st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) writes:
Actually, my understanding was that it went the
other way: lots of HASP code was lifted into
ASP. There was probably some borrowing in the
other direction, too, I would imagine.
(For the relative newcomers in the group,
HASP was the
I know of at least a few people on this list that will love this one:
The ISPF editor is planned to allow regular expressions to be specified as
arguments to the FIND and CHANGE commands.
I've even used Doug Nadel's FINDRX macro a few times, but admit I still
don't really get regular
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:05:04 -0600, Paul Peplinski paul.peplin...@wpsic.com
wrote:
Hello,
Am I the only one who misses the rationale behind the z/OS installation and
maintenance of SAS 9.2 (and now 9.3) using the Software Depot? I imagine it
would be more palatable if it was straight foward
I had the same thoughts, but decided posting them wasn't the best thing.
This thread, which I started, goes to show how off topic things can get around
here!
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Silvio Camplani sysp...@silvio.fastmail.fm wrote:
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Paul
But, has admitted to deliberately clouding the issues and refuses to change his
style.
Why deliberately confuse when 'communicating'?
.
Professor: Anybody who expresses himself and cannot make themselves understood
is an idiot!
Do you understand?
Voice from class: No sir!
This is forum to
Eric,
Yeah...agreed, but a they saw , the famous group they, everyone is entitled
than opinion, whether its appropriate or not is a a different story ...
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understand. - Chinese Proverb
I think you're going to like them, Mark. Not that I've found a system to
play with this on yet.
Cheers, Martin
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I wonder which version of Regular Expressions this will use. Basic or
Extended or Perl Compatible.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.comwrote:
I think you're going to like them, Mark. Not that I've found a system to
play with this on yet.
Cheers, Martin
Yes, I got the 3590, which is a DSS restore to traditional z/OS PDS datasets
followed by jobs to create and populate the zFS dataset). So far, so good but
the Hot Fix process is still a Depot process fraught with z/OS limitations and
errors. I'm working through the issues now, but I didlike
We don't do SAS at all any more. I've not had any problems with installing
z/OS 1.12 via Internet delivery. Nor any RSU. I've also installed products
from CA with no problems using their, different, method. Sounds like SAS
Institute may not have done it very well.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:31 PM,
On 2/5/2013 12:44 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) writes:
Actually, my understanding was that it went the
other way: lots of HASP code was lifted into
ASP. There was probably some borrowing in the
other direction, too, I would imagine.
(For the relative
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 14:27:19 -0600, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
wrote:
I wonder which version of Regular Expressions this will use. Basic or
Extended or Perl Compatible.
I would guess the same thing that z/OS Unix supports. Basic -
like everything is in z/OS Unix. :-)
sed -E will use Extended regular expressions. Personally, I like PCRE. But
I will make do even with basic regexps. Of course, I will never see z/OS
2.1.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 14:27:19 -0600, John McKown
Mike Wawiorko wrote:
SYS13036.T095110.RA0.TSH012.COBLST
At a quick glance this looks like a temporary dataset. Could you have two
similarly named trying to be allocated within the same second 09:51:10?
snip
If so...it's worth a look at the ALLOCxx parmlib support we added in
z/OS V1.12,
We have been backing up millions of unnecessary datasets. I am changing HSM to
not back them up but would like a reasonably easy way to delete the millions of
backups that already exist.
Is there anything short of generating millions of lines of JCL. Is there any
way to get HSM to delete these
Uriel,
I think David's on to something here.
HSM will not delete a dataset that is supposed to have a backup but doesn't.
Check your HSM space management job output and look for code 53 errors. These
are delete candidates that don't have backups so HSM can't delete them. Do your
datasets
Dana Mitchell wrote:
Interesting bit in the announcement:
In z/OS V2.1, support is planned to allow the Hardware Management Console
Integrated 3270 Console on System z and zEnterprise servers to be used as a
z/OS console during and after IPL. This capability is intended to add another
backup
Look up the HDELETE command for migrated data sets; HBDELETE for backup
data sets. I'm at home now. I have some helper stuff at work. I'll look for
some stuff tomorrow.
On Feb 5, 2013 4:25 PM, David G. Schlecht dschle...@admin.nv.gov wrote:
We have been backing up millions of unnecessary
Hi Rick,
I know of no problem, but I have not tried it myself either. None of the
font libraries on my test system are currently PDSE.
The Infoprint documentation makes no mention of the term PDSE.
However, the PSF documentation does say that resources, including fonts,
can be in PDSE
Should go away during the first management cycle after you change the
number of backups for the management class (or change the dataset to a
different management class).
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:24 PM, David G. Schlecht
dschle...@admin.nv.gov wrote:
We have been backing up millions of
Charles,
Like that one..MVS is a faster company
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
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understand. - Chinese Proverb
On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
Might well be both. There are a dozen or
On 5 Feb 2013 07:58:30 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
In the discussion below, I note that once again the JES2 customers get
more new function than those using the higher priced JES3.
Clark Morris who still nurses a grudge because JES3 customers had to
buy BDT(Bulk Data Transfer) to
Tom:
How about MVS 2.0 ?
Ed
On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:08:53 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
Is this release in fact to be denominated 2.1?
Doing so would break with IBM's tradition of beginning the numbering
of new versions with 2.0 and the like
In z/OS V2.1, z/OS DFSMS and Allocation processing are planned to be
enhanced to allow you to specify that all the members of a generation
data group (GDG) be returned in order from oldest to newest when the
generation data set (GDS) name is specified without a generation
number. This is
Am I the only one who misses the rationale behind the z/OS installation and
maintenance of SAS 9.2 (and now 9.3) using the Software Depot? I imagine it
would be more palatable if it was straight foward and error free. Also, has
anyone evaluated (or converted to) the World Programming System
Hello,
This could be simple or Dumb question and I apologize for it :) . I have
written ACS routine based on the filtlist criteria but i am just curious to
know if it is possible to write ACS routine(STORCLASSTORGROUP) based on
user's racf group ? Intention is just to make sure that a user
Try msg $HASP100. it tells you the origin of the message at the end of the
text. SDSF status screen keeps this information under SUBUSER field, so you
can develop a small rexx program to collect this if the jobs are still on
spool. I would also look at SMF.
ITschak
2013/2/6 גדי בן אבי
I would prefer SMF.
I couldn't find it in SMF type 30.
Could it be somewhere else?
Gadi
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This is documented in SC26-7402-xx. Chapter 16.3 Read-Only Variables,
shows that GROUP is what you are looking for.
Kees.
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To:
W dniu 2013-02-06 07:19, Jake anderson pisze:
Hello,
This could be simple or Dumb question and I apologize for it :) . I have
written ACS routine based on the filtlist criteria but i am just curious to
know if it is possible to write ACS routine(STORCLASSTORGROUP) based on
user's racf group ?
W dniu 2013-02-06 07:53, גדי בן אבי pisze:
Hi,
Is there a way to produce a report that will show all of the jobs submitted by
a certain task (Control-M).
ControlM has quite good logs which show you the above and much more.
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