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2013-08-05 Thread George Young
On top of everything, we don't think she took her Sunday AM pills, which did not help. Life goes on.. keep smiling. Love Peggy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: COBOL ? - emulating recursive PERFORM statement

2013-08-05 Thread John Chase
On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 09:00:02 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com wrote: LOL, Didn't say it was my hands! Have you heard me play the violin? Been playing 50 years and still awful. Even worse than Jack Benny? :-D -jc-

Securing OSA-ICC Consoles

2013-08-05 Thread Joe Messineo
We have been using OSA-ICC to emulate consoles for several years.This has been done on a private network within the data center. We now have the requirement to monitor the mainframe from a remote site. OSA-ICC does not have an option to secure the Console traffic from the client to the

Testing SSH file transfers

2013-08-05 Thread Campbell, Breck
Hi List, I'm trying to test transferring files from a SSH server to out mainframes, and need a SSH deamon for my windows XT system. Does anyone out there have any suggestions? It would be nice if it was a share-ware application. Breck Campbell Systems Developer II State of Vermont Dept

Re: Testing SSH file transfers

2013-08-05 Thread John McKown
Cygwin in totally free and _should_ work. I don't use the SSH server, but I do some other parts of the package. It is a port of OpenSSH. http://cygwin.com/install.html Minimal packaging of the above. http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/ Lots more variations on the above if you Google on OpenSSH

Re: Testing SSH file transfers

2013-08-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:57:37 -0500, John McKown wrote: Cygwin in totally free and _should_ work. I don't use the SSH server, but I do some other parts of the package. It is a port of OpenSSH. http://cygwin.com/install.html Minimal packaging of the above. http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/ Lots

Re: COBOL ? - emulating recursive PERFORM statement

2013-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 51fe9ebe.8060...@valley.net, on 08/04/2013 at 02:34 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net said: English has more homonyms than other languages I know, and it is imprecise; it could be improved by introducing gender specific articles That would open several other cans of worms. Also,

Re: COBOL ? - emulating recursive PERFORM statement

2013-08-05 Thread Campbell, Breck
In Spanish, I believe that a child of unknown gender would be referred to in the masculine. As would a group of mixed gender, but now you are getting into something that is cultural in its use and not purely linguistic. Breck -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: C issue - 'struct stat'

2013-08-05 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Ze'ev, I would like to chime in and say that you started in exactly the right place for those of us who work where there is no unix file system space regularly made available to application programmers. ISV's and SP's can allocate and populate unix file systems at will, while ordinary

Re: Securing OSA-ICC Consoles

2013-08-05 Thread Skip Robinson
I think the answer is the same for OSA-ICC as for all other 'outside' accesses to the mainframe: VPN. Let RSA do the heavy lifting. By the time you reach the console, you have already been validated. You can also access HMC in the same way. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison

Re: C issue - 'struct stat'

2013-08-05 Thread John McKown
I _knew_ I was unusual. I have set up BPX.NEXT.USER and automount on z/OS UNIX to automatically create a UID and make a ${HOME} for any RACF id which does UNIX work. Not that any of our programmers actually _use_ UNIX. Or are even aware that it exists on z/OS. Almost all of the adventurous

Re: Securing OSA-ICC Consoles

2013-08-05 Thread John McKown
We do it differently. Instead of a VPN, we use a Windows Terminal Services Gateway. We connect to that and it automatically connects us to our in-house desktop. We used to use a VPN, but it was replaced with the TSG server. I guess because the F5 VPN wasn't Microsoft!. A common reason why we

Re: Testing SSH file transfers

2013-08-05 Thread Mark Post
On 8/5/2013 at 09:57 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Cygwin in totally free and _should_ work. I don't use the SSH server, but I do some other parts of the package. It is a port of OpenSSH. I do use the SSH server from Cygwin. It does work as you would expect. Mark Post

Re: Testing SSH file transfers

2013-08-05 Thread Campbell, Breck
Thanks for the advice, I'll try using Cygwin. Breck -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 11:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Testing SSH file transfers On 8/5/2013

Re: COBOL ? - emulating recursive PERFORM statement

2013-08-05 Thread John Gilmore
All of the romance langhuages, Latin dialects, have a default gender where the distinction is made, which is not always the case. In Italian, which is the closest of them to Latin, 'the victim' is always la vittima, feminine, regardless of that victim's sex. Or again, 'the dog' is by default il

Re: editor (again) (was: C issue - 'struct stat')

2013-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 51ff03c9.8010...@gmail.com, on 08/05/2013 at 09:45 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said: I'm not sure but whoever it was knows what they are doing. It's a very good implementation. It even handles the newline fiasco. The EBCDIC character that corresponds to an ASCII LF is

Re: COBOL ? - emulating recursive PERFORM statement

2013-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cae1xxdhuxauskeet8gxeqafkouhpqyy2jc4ttghxd0qk9b+...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/04/2013 at 03:17 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said: In fact, in my experience anyway, context almost always clarifies what is meant. The ambiguity is formal, not substantive. There is enough substantive

Re: COBOL ? - emulating recursive PERFORM statement

2013-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8136429985448566.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 08/04/2013 at 03:34 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: ... any number of users? Or any number of virtual machines? In VM a CP user and a virtual machine are equivalent. Besides, adding the users of an OS in a virtual

Re: Securing OSA-ICC Consoles

2013-08-05 Thread Joe Messineo
Well I don't want to complicate things for the operators. Right now the console just comes on when they IPL the system. So the security is the physical computer room. So any solution would require it to be seamless for our operations staff. I really don't want to add any additional

Re: editor (again) (was: C issue - 'struct stat')

2013-08-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:34:56 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: The problem is Unix, not EBCDIC. The ASCII LF is *not* a new line function, but half of a new line function. The DOS CRLF convention reflects ASCII. '15'x is a correct translation of the Unix new line but not of the ASCII LF. '25'

Re: editor (again) (was: C issue - 'struct stat')

2013-08-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:16:25 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Linux iconv ITYM GNU iconv. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

dfhsm expirebv command idles even though expirebv not held

2013-08-05 Thread Michael Bieganski
Hello, I've issued this tso hsend cmd: hsend expirebv abarsversions(agname(bkmcics) retainversions(0)) display and have been waiting for over an hour for the response to the terminal. When I issue an tso hsend q req, I see but only a tape being recycled, and MWEs ahead of my simple request:

Re: dfhsm expirebv command idles even though expirebv not held

2013-08-05 Thread Darth Keller
Any chance the tape is in use on another LPAR or in another function? In my experience this is usually the case. ddk / Hello, I've issued this tso hsend cmd: hsend expirebv abarsversions(agname(bkmcics) retainversions(0)) display and have been waiting for over

Re: editor (again) (was: C issue - 'struct stat')

2013-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6327543196613690.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 08/05/2013 at 11:16 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: All of which is comparable to, and irrelevant as, quibbling about whether, in EBCDIC, x'F1' is a real representation of the CCW to skip to top-of-form. Good

Re: COBOL ? - emulating recursive PERFORM statement

2013-08-05 Thread John Gilmore
Shmuel wrote: | There is enough substantive ambiguity | to enrich the legal profession. and I think not. There is, however, much language that can be argued to have a meaning different from that its speaker/writer intended, particularly when that language is wrenched out of its context. The

Re: MVS ROUTE command is a bad influence on DB2 ERLY code

2013-08-05 Thread Jim Mooney
Thanks Don and Elardus for your replies. I don't get a RACf msg during any of this, so I don't think it's involved. We have a shared RACF DB. I use the same logon id with the same authority on both lpars. I just get different results when I issue it locally. As far as automation goes, we do

Re: MVS ROUTE command is a bad influence on DB2 ERLY code

2013-08-05 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
If you issue the D OPDATA command on each LPAR what results do you get ? Jerry Whitteridge Lead Systems Programmer Safeway Inc. 925 951 4184 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

TS7740 data split on backend

2013-08-05 Thread Munish Sharma
Hello Good People.. I am working on a system, where the TS7740 VTS is shared by two systems(2 LPARS, with no dasd or VTS drives shared, with different Virtual tape ranges ). As both systems using the same VTS, the person who did the installation decided to keep the TAPESGRP names same on both

Re: MVS ROUTE command is a bad influence on DB2 ERLY code

2013-08-05 Thread Jim Mooney
Thanks very much for the input. I can't get to our DR system today, but I suspect it's similar to this, which I get on our prod system: D OPDATA IEE603I 16.32.21 OPDATA DISPLAY 529 PREFIX OWNER SYSTEM

Re: MVS ROUTE command is a bad influence on DB2 ERLY code

2013-08-05 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
The command char is registered with the subsystem definition - I suspect (but don't know) that when you look at the OPDATA between the 2 systems (run the command on each ) you will see a difference. Why Route gets involved is each system is processing the command according to what is defined

Re: COBOL ? - emulating recursive PERFORM statement

2013-08-05 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 8/5/2013 4:25 PM, John Gilmore wrote: and I think not. There is, however, much language that can be argued to have a meaning different from that its speaker/writer intended, particularly when that language is wrenched out of its context. Frequent road sign: $100 FINE FOR LITTERING So if I

Re: C issue - 'struct stat'

2013-08-05 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
I would like to chime in and say that you started in exactly the right place for those of us who work where there is no unix file system space regularly made available to application programmers. ISV's and SP's can allocate and populate unix file systems at will, while ordinary application

Re: C issue - 'struct stat'

2013-08-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 20:52:11 -0500, Ze'ev Atlas wrote: For subsequent releases, I may opt for two versions, one with PDS, etc. to accommodate you and the CBT-TAPE crowd, and the other perhaps using the Unix side to get more in sync with the original product and to accommodate sysprogs who might

Re: Securing OSA-ICC Consoles

2013-08-05 Thread Timothy Sipples
Joe Messineo writes: Well I don't want to complicate things for the operators. Right now the console just comes on when they IPL the system. So the security is the physical computer room. So any solution would require it to be seamless for our operations staff. I really don't want to add any

Re: C issue - 'struct stat'

2013-08-05 Thread David Crayford
On 6/08/2013 12:07 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 20:52:11 -0500, Ze'ev Atlas wrote: For subsequent releases, I may opt for two versions, one with PDS, etc. to accommodate you and the CBT-TAPE crowd, and the other perhaps using the Unix side to get more in sync with the original

Re: MVS ROUTE command is a bad influence on DB2 ERLY code

2013-08-05 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
The command char is registered with the subsystem definition - I suspect (but don't know) that when you look at the OPDATA between the 2 systems (run the command on each ) you will see a difference. Why Route gets involved is each system is processing the command according to what is