Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-28 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
SPF needed terminals. I was at IBM in 1978 and SPF didn't seem all that old. Terminals were in short supply so punch using TYPRUN=COPY was the go... On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:17 AM, J R jayare...@hotmail.com wrote: It was at an IBM internal site. It may have been before SPF's official

Re: to use wildcard characters in JCl

2014-07-28 Thread Mitko Iakimov
Based on the DFSORT example provided: you can use another way to substitute System symbols and pass the output to FTP //MODIFY EXEC PGM=EZACFSM1 //SYSINDD * ftp statements PUT

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shane Ginnane wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:34:50 -0500, I wrote: I'm probably less than half the age of some (most ???) on this list, Ok,ok, that was a bit of a stretch ... :0) Hehe.. Good one. Shena ... Shena? Be extremely careful when posting on a Sunday! ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus

Re: Monitoring Solution for mainframe

2014-07-28 Thread Charles Mills
That is EXACTLY what the fairly new IBM product zAware (you can Google it) does: watches for console message anomalies and highlights them (in the general sense of the word highlight; I don't mean it makes them brighter on the console). Well, it does everything except fit your budget

EDITING DFHSM DSN CREATED FROM HSM COMMAND

2014-07-28 Thread willie bunter
Good Day, I am trying to edit the output from a AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS(MIGRATION) NOFIX Here is an example of the output : /* ERR 36 BACKUP VERSION ENTRY HSM.BACK.T253700.TSO.FOCUS.H9347 CONTAINS 0, SHOULD CONTAIN 020 /* FIXCDS B TSO.FOCUS.FOCEXEC.DATA VERIFY(X'0088' X'')

Re: Monitoring Solution for mainframe

2014-07-28 Thread Rob Scott
Peter, If you are just looking to intercept messages (WTOs) and process them for notification, then I would suggest that you take a look at SyzMPF/z and SyzMAIL/z on www.syzygyinc.com . If you are after a low cost z/OS monitoring product that can process WTO messages and also perform

Re: Monitoring Solution for mainframe

2014-07-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Charles Mills wrote: That is EXACTLY what the fairly new IBM product zAware (you can Google it) does: Indeed. While it is *free* (sort of, but see below my question), you need some preparation work (optionally setup a LDAP Server to name one) before you can start use it. Talk with your

Re: to use wildcard characters in JCl

2014-07-28 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Look at the JZOS sample program ZipDataSets. It uses Z/os catalog services and allows wild card patterns to be specified for the input datasets (passed in the parm field) which can be either MVS or HFS files. The output is a zip file which can be ftp’d

Re: Monitoring Solution for mainframe

2014-07-28 Thread Charles Mills
Is zAware free? That was not my impression but I could easily be wrong. From https://share.confex.com/share/121/webprogram/Handout/Session13580/SHARE%2013580%20Setting_up_IBM_zAware_2013Aug.pdf Prerequisites to defining a zAware partition: Purchase and install the zAware Feature Codes (FC)

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-28 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) writes: Sounds a bit like a z/VM DCSS. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#85 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses an issue with DCSS (and each virtual address space not being able

Re: Monitoring Solution for mainframe

2014-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
What version of z/OS are you running? Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of mf db Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Monitoring Solution for mainframe Hi I am

Re: Monitoring Solution for mainframe

2014-07-28 Thread Bob Shannon
zAware is not designed to act on individual messages which the OP requires. zAware analyzes a preponderance of messages to discover trends. zAware runs in a separate partition (aka LPAR) and, IMO, isn't cheap. The OP needs some form of automation, not zAware. Bob Shannon Rocket Software

Re: Monitoring Solution for mainframe

2014-07-28 Thread Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]
We use MPF message exits. We have a small operations staff and they don't watch the MVS console so we needed a way to notify them if something was happening. We setup a simple MPF exit program to start a batch job and pass the message to it. The batch program then decides what to do with the

Re: Monitoring Solution for mainframe

2014-07-28 Thread Charles Mills
Macht nichts but I interpreted reports all the exceptional messages to the mainframe operators not as automation but exception processing. I'm not by any means a shill for zAware -- I own a product that peripherally competes with it -- but I think that the identification of exceptional

Re: Monitoring Solution for mainframe

2014-07-28 Thread John Eells
Charles Mills wrote: Is zAware free? That was not my impression but I could easily be wrong. zAware is a priced feature of zEC12 and zBC12 servers. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com --

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 22:01:02 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote: There is some sharing across address spaces via z/OS Unix of program objects that live in the file system, using what I think of as shared private. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design Is this only as a consequence of fork(), or

Re: Monitoring Solution for mainframe

2014-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
If the OP wants to look at the CBTTAPE.ORG site and search on TSSO or MPF or WTO or SYSLOG - there are probably some examples for what he wants to do. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent:

Re: EDITING DFHSM DSN CREATED FROM HSM COMMAND

2014-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
Did you write the AUDIT to an output datasets? Are you using a REXX with File tailoring functions from ISPF (FTOPEN, FTINCL, FTCLOSE, EDIT for example) to generate HSEND commands? Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: Monitoring Solution for mainframe

2014-07-28 Thread Bob Shannon
but I think that the identification of exceptional situations is exactly what it claims to do. The OP doesn’t want the exceptional situation identified, he already knows what it is. He wants it automated. zAware is the wrong tool for the stated problem. Bob Shannon Rocket Software

Re: EDITING DFHSM DSN CREATED FROM HSM COMMAND

2014-07-28 Thread Willie Bunter
Lizette, Yes, I wrote the output to a dsn : Here is it is AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS(BACKUP) NOFIX - ODS(PT2001.AUDIT.DATASET.CONTROLS.BCDS1) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: EDITING DFHSM DSN CREATED FROM HSM COMMAND

2014-07-28 Thread Staller, Allan
Are you opposed to the FIX (as opposed to NOFIX) operand of the Audit command? snip I am trying to edit the output from a AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS(MIGRATION) NOFIX Here is an example of the output : /* ERR 36 BACKUP VERSION ENTRY HSM.BACK.T253700.TSO.FOCUS.H9347 CONTAINS 0, SHOULD CONTAIN 020

Re: EDITING DFHSM DSN CREATED FROM HSM COMMAND

2014-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
And what is the answer to my other question? Are you using a REXX to edit the ODS and using ISPF File Tailoring to make it what you what? I always use an REXX/ISPF File tailoring function with this type of requirement. And the others are correct - you could change NOFIX to FIX and just let

Re: Monitoring Solution for mainframe

2014-07-28 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.bsp-gmbh.com/turnkey/cookbook/bsppilot.html On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:25 AM, mf db dbajava...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am looking for a mainframe monitoring software which reports all the exceptional messages to the mainframe operators. I know a few products like Omegamon or OPS/MVS

Re: Find member in Linklist through JCL?

2014-07-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:12:09 +0100, CM Poncelet ponce...@bcs.org.uk wrote: FWIW You can specify ISPPROF as either '//ISPPROF DD SPACE=(TRK,(1,1,1)),DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0)' or as '//ISPPROF DD LIKE=userid.ISPF.ISPPROF' without preallocating and then deleting it. I think the reason

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-28 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Paul Gilmartin) writes: Understood. When I first explored the S/370 instruction set, it appeared to me that the S/360 designers had anticipated support for location-independent code (as envisioned by Lynn Wheeler), but software never realized

Re: EDITING DFHSM DSN CREATED FROM HSM COMMAND

2014-07-28 Thread willie bunter
Lizette, No I was not using REXX to edi tthe ODS. I was looking at manually editing the dsn via 3.4. I will run the AUDIT with the FIX as suggested. Thanks to you and Alan for responding. On Mon, 7/28/14, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com

Re: EDITING DFHSM DSN CREATED FROM HSM COMMAND

2014-07-28 Thread Willie Bunter
The reason I am hesitant to use the FIX command is that I am not sure if it would impact HSM i.e. cause a slow down on other functions. This is why I was looking at running the FIXCDS for each dsn. Would you know if there could be any impact on HSM?

SAVING FORWARDING POSTS FROM IBM ARCHVIE

2014-07-28 Thread John Dawes
G'Day, Is there a way of saving (in my YAhoo email INBOX) and forwarding posts to my colleagues while browsing the ARCHIVES? Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Find member in Linklist through JCL?

2014-07-28 Thread Skip Robinson
It's been decades since I've touched the shareware version of PDS command. Besides FINDMOD, there are a few other functions in the Serena incarnation that require APF authorization. Is APF not an option for PDS 8.5? If not, then never mind. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison

Re: Find member in Linklist through JCL?

2014-07-28 Thread CM Poncelet
Sure, I hadn't noticed that. Mark Zelden wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:12:09 +0100, CM Poncelet ponce...@bcs.org.uk wrote: FWIW You can specify ISPPROF as either '//ISPPROF DD SPACE=(TRK,(1,1,1)),DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0)' or as '//ISPPROF DD LIKE=userid.ISPF.ISPPROF' without

RMDS

2014-07-28 Thread Roff, Donna
Hi, Is anyone here familiar with RMDS (Report Management Distribution System) ? We have a question about security on one of the RMDS commands available against a report. ACF2 protects the MVS datasets but this is for the actual report. (This is my first post. I don't know if I need to put any

Re: RMDS

2014-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
No introduction needed. And welcome What version ofz/OS. ;RMDS and ACF2 Just post with enough info so we can understand the question. Lizette -Original Message- From: Roff, Donna dr...@fisa.nyc.gov Sent: Jul 28, 2014 12:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: RMDS Hi, Is anyone

Re: RMDS

2014-07-28 Thread Sri h Kolusu
May be this will help Chapter 16 in Administration Guide http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DBNA3000 or this one http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DBNC3000 Kolusu IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 07/28/2014

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-28 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:07:16 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 22:01:02 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote: There is some sharing across address spaces via z/OS Unix of program objects that live in the file system, using what I think of as shared private. Peter

Re: ALTERING DEVTYPE IN THE CATALOG ENTRY

2014-07-28 Thread retired mainframer
Since a 3490 compatible drive can read a 3480 cartridge, you can read the tapes.For safety sake, I would write protect the cartridges before mounting them. The only thing your user needs to do is add UNIT=3490 and VOL=SER=(V05234,V07289) to the JCL to bypass the catalog search. I would

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3699753162619660.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/25/2014 at 03:48 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: As Joe D'Alessandro pointed out, with a citation in the PoP, there's considerable hardware support for this function. You don't need

Re: Beginners question about SHARE

2014-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 01c501cfa8c8$cf19e4e0$6d4daea0$@mcn.org, on 07/26/2014 at 07:57 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: I apologize to anyone who is not familiar with exaggeration, We are all too familiar with it. a figure of speech used for emphasis or humor. Perhaps you should consult your dictionary

Re: to use wildcard characters in JCl

2014-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 019f01cfa8dd$76f35110$64d9f330$@mindspring.com, on 07/26/2014 at 07:25 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said: It might be possible to have a program (Cobol, pl/1, etc.) or script (REXX, clist, Unix Perl, etc.) generate the JCL and create the wild card function that way. ISPF

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAJFODxdM+71r-S=1WmFLuR5JVAiu=HdeNWeY=urbsmy4hbl...@mail.gmail.com, on 07/27/2014 at 07:44 AM, Hobart Spitz orexx...@gmail.com said: For those who may be confused, this may make things worse :-) : SPF EDIT was originally[1] part of Structured Programming Facility (SPF) and System

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6349490815335683.wa.ibmmaintpg.com...@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/27/2014 at 07:34 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au said: I'm probably less than half the age of some (most ???) on this list, but I use it as a tool of last resort. Much like vi ... TSO EDIT is much more user friendly than

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 829975020fe05747b35aa575a61a6ac114642...@dm1prd6402mb047.021d.mgd.msft.net, on 07/27/2014 at 01:52 PM, Tim Zielke tim.zie...@aon.com said: This is a simplistic approach for sure, Actually, it's a complicated approach. The simple approach would be to add support for using shared virtual

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 20140727161841.6082708.34835.16...@yahoo.ca, on 07/27/2014 at 12:18 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said: ISPF (then called SPF) was introduced with MVS in 1974. FSE to my knowledge was introduced latrr. There was a product from ASI called FSE and, I believe, a freebie with the same

Re: JES3 job ids

2014-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3119503832839520.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/27/2014 at 08:59 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: They didn't *need* to make it inconsistent. No, but is there a business case for developing the infrastructure to keep such things

using TSO edit command

2014-07-28 Thread John Norgauer
For the seasoned sysprog: Can TSO edit command be used against a PDS. If so, what is the format of the command. I was experimenting with the command and can not edit a member in a PDS. Thanks., -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: using TSO edit command

2014-07-28 Thread Ed Finnell
There are some limitations to LRECL and size in bytes. Did you get an error message? Edit pds.cntl(test) Should put you into userid.pds.cntl member test For non-userid then you have to tick-it 'SYS1.PARMLIB(MYCMND)' In a message dated 7/28/2014 5:07:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

Re: using TSO edit command

2014-07-28 Thread Steve Comstock
On 7/28/2014 4:06 PM, John Norgauer wrote: For the seasoned sysprog: Can TSO edit command be used against a PDS. If so, what is the format of the command. I was experimenting with the command and can not edit a member in a PDS. Thanks.,

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-28 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 20140727161841.6082708.34835.16...@yahoo.ca, on 07/27/2014 at 12:18 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said: ISPF (then called SPF) was introduced with MVS in 1974. FSE to my knowledge was introduced latrr. There was a

Re: using TSO edit command

2014-07-28 Thread Ed Gould
Ed, 255 (vb) is my recollection. Ed On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: There are some limitations to LRECL and size in bytes. Did you get an error message? Edit pds.cntl(test) Should put you into userid.pds.cntl member test For non-userid then you have to tick-it

Re: using TSO edit command

2014-07-28 Thread John Norgauer
Thanks... emode got me into the edit -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: using TSO edit command On 7/28/2014 4:06 PM, John

Re: using TSO edit command

2014-07-28 Thread Steve Comstock
On 7/28/2014 4:36 PM, John Norgauer wrote: Thanks... emode got me into the edit You're welcome. We actually have a short lecture and lab on TSO edit in our CLIST class (but not our REXX class): http://www.trainersfriend.com/TSO_Clist_REXX_Dialog_Mgr/A650O.HTM -Steve Comstock

Re: using TSO edit command

2014-07-28 Thread Ed Finnell
Haven't used it in while, but the help was decent. As a line mode thingy remember doing TOP to position back at the beginning-often! In a message dated 7/28/2014 5:37:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jcnorga...@ucdavis.edu writes: Thanks... emode got me into the edit -Original

Re: Beginners question about SHARE

2014-07-28 Thread Charles Mills
Cite ONE post where I badmouthed SHARE or apologize. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 8:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Beginners question

Re: to use wildcard characters in JCl

2014-07-28 Thread Frank Swarbrick
That's not really 'wildcarding'.  In any case, I use MacKinney Software's JES Report Broker for this.  Would be nice of the IBM FTP client had an option to append values based on symbols/variables, but it doesn't. From: Rajesh Janakiraman

Re: using TSO edit command

2014-07-28 Thread Ed Gould
Ed: I don't remember that as an option on our system (TOP) but its been 30 years so my memory must have dropped a few bits since then. What I do remember is doing a L 1 Ed On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: Haven't used it in while, but the help was decent. As a line mode

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8027530609612802.wa.ibmmaintpg.com...@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/27/2014 at 07:53 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au said: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:34:50 -0500, I wrote: I'm probably less than half the age of some (most ???) on this list, Ok,ok, that was a bit of a stretch ... :0)

Re: to use wildcard characters in JCl

2014-07-28 Thread Ed Gould
Frank: I think if you need to use system symbols you need the C/I and that means no SVC 99 support either. Ed On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: That's not really 'wildcarding'. In any case, I use MacKinney Software's JES Report Broker for this. Would be nice of the

Re: using TSO edit command

2014-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In fa26a2cb30dc4fad9925d39f82bf8...@dm2pr08mb720.namprd08.prod.outlook.com, on 07/28/2014 at 10:06 PM, John Norgauer jcnorga...@ucdavis.edu said: Can TSO edit command be used against a PDS. Of course; that's a lot more common than editing a PS data set. I was experimenting with the command

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-28 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Structured Programming Facility was how we named it back in 1978. I was thrilled to think that IBM had a product for Structured Programming. Having cut my teeth on the excellent Jackson Structured programming techniques, alas it wasn't that at all but merely a code indenter to line up block

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:35:39 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 6349490815335683.wa.ibmmaintpg.com...@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/27/2014 at 07:34 AM, Shane Ginnane said: I'm probably less than half the age of some (most ???) on this list, but I use it as a tool of last resort. Much like