Re: Detect Tape Volume Switch

2016-02-05 Thread Chris Cantrell
Thanks Steve. The program is currently written in COBOL. I was hoping I could get to a storage area that I could examine after each read to determine if the volumw has changes. I don't mind having an assembler called routine. However, I'm the only one in my area that knows any assmebler.

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 11:20:16 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >The 3584 has numbered SCSI element numbers for every slot, including >those occupied by the drives themselves. Moving a tape from its current >location in the library to the correct SCSI element effectively mounts

Re: Can date be changed under z/OS USS environment?

2016-02-05 Thread Charles Mills
You want to change the date, like change February 5 to March 5? You're not talking about the time zone and local time adjustment? I'm surprised that USS and legacy MVS are getting dates from different places, but anything is possible in the wonderful world of VM. Charles -Original

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
linda.lst...@comcast.net (Linda) writes: > I had an Apple ][ with an acoustic coupler. It auto dialed over a > regular telco dial tone line using a program loaded from a cassette > player, or if one could afford it, from an early floppy drive. The > college I went to had a Univac 90/70d. The were

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Skip Robinson
I apologize for totally missing the context of the question. I was thinking recovery. We had the same problem when we installed new z12s in our brand-new data center in 2013. We actually waited (months!) to get DWDM DASD mirroring in operation so we could populate our DASD that way. It did not

Restore at DR site when no mirroring was Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Clark Morris
On 4 Feb 2016 21:58:50 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >I'd like to suggest an alternative recovery strategy. Once upon a time it made >sense to devote a tape or two to standalone restore. We kept a couple of >cartridges in a drawer just in case. Two problems evolved over time. > >1.

Re: Restore at DR site when no mirroring was Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Mike Schwab
We mirror VTAPE, no DASD. We have a single DASD rescue system up. We restore a volume with a catalog of our backup tapes. Then we restore our non-sms system volumes using the catalog, init sms volumes for logical restores. IPL with DR parmlib, restore data sets. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:51

Re: Question about secondary maintenance companies

2016-02-05 Thread Longabaugh, Robert E
At Sterling Software Storage Management Division, we used SMS in Irvine, CA from around 1997-2001. The only concern was that they didn't consider our work "production", even though that is where we created our distribution tapes. Fortunately we were able to drive down there from San

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Brennan
I used cat/grep/awk because I saw it used so often by people in the unix/linux team I used to work with. Maybe it was just a quirk of that group, or like our JCL where once someone codes it everyone else copies it. Bill Woodger wrote: Tom, I think if you use that cat to grep to awk as an

Re: Catalog VVDS confusion

2016-02-05 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
I was unable to find an exact answer to my question, but I found a number of references that in general suggest possible lurking problems. Introduction to Catalogs in manual z/OS DFSMS Managing Catalogs: "To successfully perform all possible operations on a cataloged data set using the

IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Bill Woodger
I like using lines, I like to be able to read the code. SORT FIELDS=COPY OMIT COND=(1,80,SS,EQ,C'ted03') INREC PARSE=(%=(ENDBEFR=BLANKS, FIXLEN=30, STARTAT=NONBLANK, STARTAFT=BLANKS), %=(ENDBEFR=BLANKS,

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 06:43:59 -0600, Bill Woodger wrote: >the original "IBM PC-type" (although pre-dating the IBM PC) operating system >from Microsoft. There was no operating system from Microsoft that predated the IBM PC. -- Tom Marchant

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Mike Schwab
CP/M 86 was available but IBM couldn't get a license. They hired Microsoft to write DOS and they bought QDOS to get started. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Bill Woodger wrote: > Well, two things: Yes there were, and with several names, and I'd now only > say possibly

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Steve Finch
We do the manual cartridge move from a slot to a tape drive on a regular basis. Never tried the IPL part Steve Finch Recovery Point Systems -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/5/2016 10:56 AM, Steve Finch wrote: We do the manual cartridge move from a slot to a tape drive on a regular basis. Never tried the IPL part II II IITT IITT IITT IITT II

IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Bill Woodger
Well, two things: Yes there were, and with several names, and I'd now only say possibly MS-DOS. Although MS-DOS possibly/probably wouldn't have existed without IBM; the much later appearance of the IBM PC in the UK than in the US also influenced my typing, as there were any number of

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 11:53:00 -0600, John McKown wrote: >On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Tom Marchant < >000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >> On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 06:43:59 -0600, Bill Woodger wrote: >> >> >the original "IBM PC-type" (although pre-dating the IBM PC) operating

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Tom Marchant < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 11:53:00 -0600, John McKown wrote: > > >On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Tom Marchant < > >000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 5 Feb 2016

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/5/2016 9:40 AM, Gibney, David Allen,Jr wrote: Have your DS8xxx brought to your current location, hook it up and populate, power down, disconnect and ship it to the new place Haha! I didn't see the winking smiley ( ;-) ) but I assume it's there: 1. Purchase and install new FICON

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Skip Robinson
One more point on standalone restore. IPLing from a tape volume basically assumes that the tape is non-labelled. That is, the first record read is expected to be a bootstrap record. If a tape has labels, the first load will fail, but the tape will be positioned at the next block. So IPL again

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Lester, Bob wrote: > Hi John, > > Commodore 64 anyone? :-) > > Do you know what OS it ran? > ​Some variant of Microsoft BASIC, in ROM.​ > > Was the HW an x86? Motorola? Apple? > ​Motorola 8 bit​ 6510 CPU. Apple ][ was

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
Have your DS8xxx brought to your current location, hook it up and populate, power down, disconnect and ship it to the new place > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Skip Robinson > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 9:13

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Tom Marchant < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 06:43:59 -0600, Bill Woodger wrote: > > >the original "IBM PC-type" (although pre-dating the IBM PC) operating > system from Microsoft. > > There was no operating system

Re: Catalog VVDS confusion

2016-02-05 Thread Gerry Tracey
Hi, I have had problems with Rocket Softwares CSL doing a Repro Mergecat when the backward pointer was incorrect. Sent from my iPhone > On 5 Feb 2016, at 10:29, Peter Ten Eyck wrote: > > I was unable to find an exact answer to my question, but I found a number

IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Bill Woodger
awk can do everything itself. grep can take a (single) file as input. No *nix-person is going to do cat of one file into grep and then into awk. cat of two files would be good, (concatenation in the JCL) and that would be fine input for grep, but then head, or tail, or something else like that.

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Bill Woodger wrote: > awk can do everything itself. grep can take a (single) file as input. No > *nix-person is going to do cat of one file into grep and then into awk. cat > of two files would be good, (concatenation in the JCL) and that

Re: Catalog VVDS confusion

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:33:31 -0600, Peter Ten Eyck wrote: >In z/OS 1.13 we have "usable" dataset (currently used by a CICS region) that >has its >VVDS entry pointing to a different user catalog than the one related to by its >master >catalog alias. > >This is not correct. Under what

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Ed - I forget if you have any z/VM systems. You might be able to use the z/VM starter DVD to ipl a /zVM system to then access the tape library libraries and do your restores of the z/OS pack Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Skip Robinson
The DASD route is unrealistic on several grounds as noted. I think tape has to be the solution. Could IBM (or intermediate reseller) loan a 'standalone' tape machine just for installation? We get loaner hardware on (rare) occasions as needed. This is a one-time problem that needs a one-time

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > CP/M 86 was available but IBM couldn't get a license. They hired > Microsoft to write DOS and they bought QDOS to get started. > > ​Yeah. Worst mistake Gary Kindall ever made. Just think, if he'd hadn't "blown off"

Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi John, Commodore 64 anyone? :-) Do you know what OS it ran? Was the HW an x86? Motorola? Apple? I had a buddy (years ago, of course), that did strange and wonderful (at the time) things with several of them connected together. No cases, wires everywhere, but

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/4/2016 11:58 PM, Crispin Hugo wrote: I have not tried this personally but IBM System Storage TS3500 Tape Library GUI under section Cartridges allows one to select cartridge in Library and move it to a specific slot, the slot can be any of the cartridge drives in the Library. I assume

Re: Count smf type 30-5 records

2016-02-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Sri h Kolusu wrote : >>If you want DFSORT to extract the values from Raw SMF data then what fields >>correspond to Userid, Jobname(SMF30JBN ??) and Date from the SMF-30 Record >>mapping? Remember the raw smf have variable length segments where the offset >>and the length are stored in the

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Crispin Hugo
Please let me know how it goes ! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: 05 February 2016 08:18 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How?? On 2/4/2016 11:58 PM,

Re: Obtaining current ASID in REXX

2016-02-05 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Thanks Roberto, I can use JOBID to get this working too! – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Roberto Halais Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 2:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Obtaining current ASID in REXX

2016-02-05 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Thanks Elardus. Please ignore my verbal incompetence. What I meant hopefully came through though - cancel all ASID's except the active one. There is an fix from CA for this already but I'm just taking as an opportunity to learn something, hopefully by not having to spend way too much time

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Lindy Mayfield
You may find this of interest. Fred Brooks talks about JCL. I couldn't find the original online, but I probably could if I tried harder. http://lilliana.eu/downloads/jcltalk.txt Cheers, Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
Well, it is a bit more complicated :) and I'm glad you found a better way. Further below. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 10:44 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >

Re: Catalog VVDS confusion

2016-02-05 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
There is a VVDSFIX (not officially supported/use at own risk) available from IBM. Also, the two ISV catalog tools (Dino and CR+) can fix these errors. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Gerry Tracey > Sent: Friday,

Re: Detect Tape Volume Switch

2016-02-05 Thread Steve Thompson
On 02/05/2016 04:44 PM, Chris Cantrell wrote: Thanks Steve. The program is currently written in COBOL. I was hoping I could get to a storage area that I could examine after each read to determine if the volumw has changes. I don't mind having an assembler called routine. However, I'm the only

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/5/2016 12:09 PM, Robert Haimowitz wrote: You no longer need an ICKDSF IPL tape with the current DFDSS. Bob Excellent. And, since this is z/OS 2.2 it should work fine... :-\ -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Ed Finnell
How about a virtual training aid that has Tape Gui and Internal Library stack? Seems like a summer project for an intern. In a message dated 2/5/2016 3:49:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, alan_altm...@us.ibm.com writes: and can click on HELP or the actual buttons, you're going to have

Can date be changed under z/OS USS environment?

2016-02-05 Thread Jasi Grewal
Greetings, We did a small test of changing dates within z/OS Guest System and we were able to change under TSO but under Unix Environment, it continues to show z/VM Host date and when I type in date under USS environment. Is that because of UTC? and we cannot change date under Unix environment.

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/5/2016 1:49 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: Ed, I don't think it's up to z/OS to document how to move cartridges around in every tape library, nor appropriate for it to do so. Perhaps not, but that's what they do. Don't worry, I won't send the same RCF in for z/VM. Your comment got me to

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 12:28:13 -0600, John McKown > I stand corrected. But Xenix was not a "PC-type operating system", but a >> port of Unix. >> > >​Ah. Difference in viewpoint. My machines at home run Linux. I run Gnu/Linux too. What I meant was that Xenix was not like MS-DOS. And the post that I

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 19:02:30 +, Lester, Bob wrote: >Commodore 64 anyone? :-) >Do you know what OS it ran? >Was the HW an x86? Motorola? Apple? No. No, and no. The C-64 used an MOS Technology 6510. It was essentially the same processor as the 6502 used in the Apple II and Atari 400

Re: Can date be changed under z/OS USS environment?

2016-02-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-02-05 15:35, Jasi Grewal wrote: > Greetings, We did a small test of changing dates within z/OS Guest System and > we were able to change under TSO but under Unix Environment, it continues to > show z/VM Host date and when I type in date under USS environment. > > Is that because of UTC?

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/5/2016 11:15 AM, Skip Robinson wrote: One more point on standalone restore. IPLing from a tape volume basically assumes that the tape is non-labelled. That is, the first record read is expected to be a bootstrap record. If a tape has labels, the first load will fail, but the tape will be

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Lindy Mayfield
I found it here, at about 1:50. http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/mainframe-computers/7/162/2270 -Lindy -Original Message- From: Lindy Mayfield Sent: perjantaina 5. helmikuuta 2016 20.44 To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: IBM Destination

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
bles...@ofiglobal.com (Lester, Bob) writes: > ​Yeah. Worst mistake Gary Kindall ever made. Just think, if he'd hadn't > "blown off" IBM, I'd be cursing his memory (he's deceased) instead of > Bill Gates. Or maybe not, I ran CP/M-80 back in the day. I really > enjoyed it. But, then, I enjoyed

Detect Tape Volume Switch

2016-02-05 Thread Chris Cantrell
I have a process which determines the VOLSERs belong to a file and then dynamically allocates each tape individually to determine exactly what data is on each of the individual VOLSERs. Our system programers implemented a change last year which caused z/OS (2.01) to add the missing VOLSERs to

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Clifford McNeill
Also don't forget the stand alone ICKDSF IPL tape to init the disk drives before a stand alone DFDSS IPL to restore the tapes. Cliff McNeill From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Skip Robinson

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread John Eells
Bob beat me to it! But I'll add this: ...when you specify NOVERIFY (or NVFY) on the RESTORE command. Robert Haimowitz wrote: You no longer need an ICKDSF IPL tape with the current DFDSS. Bob -- John Eells IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com

Re: Detect Tape Volume Switch

2016-02-05 Thread Steve Thompson
On 02/05/2016 03:45 PM, Chris Cantrell wrote: I have a process which determines the VOLSERs belong to a file and then dynamically allocates each tape individually to determine exactly what data is on each of the individual VOLSERs. Our system programers implemented a change last year which

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lester, Bob wrote: > Commodore 64 anyone? :-) I owned one then - with speed of 1.0?? MHz. Played games, learned myself Assembler, prolog, basic (slow and yucky!), logo (?spelling? that turtle thing language - actually a vector based drawing program). There were a lots of new

Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

2016-02-05 Thread Robert Haimowitz
You no longer need an ICKDSF IPL tape with the current DFDSS. Bob Robert Haimowitz IBM Development Support Team (DST) Poughkeepsie IBM z Systems and z/OS Enablement Phone: 1-919-486-3288 (tie line 526-3288) Internet: ha...@us.ibm.com From: Clifford McNeill To:

Re: Error ICE007A on ICETOOL OMIT sentence

2016-02-05 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Hilario, As Bill pointed out you cannot have both INCLUDE and OMIT COND in the same step. If you want both you need to move one of them to OUTFIL. Check this link which illustrates the processing order for record handling, exits, statements, and options. Use this diagram with the text

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 02/05/2016 11:56 AM, Bill Woodger wrote: > Well, two things: Yes there were, and with several names, and I'd now only > say possibly MS-DOS. Although MS-DOS possibly/probably wouldn't have existed > without IBM; the much later appearance of the IBM PC in the UK than in the US > also

Re: IGD17279I due to insufficient space

2016-02-05 Thread Neil Duffee
Caveat: as a daily digester, my responses are always behind-the-times... The messages are perfectly correct and expected. Your culprit is MB(86000) which would be similar to requesting CYL(11). None of the listed volumes have the required 86Gb of free space. Rather they all show

IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Bill Woodger
On Thursday, 4 February 2016 22:08:31 UTC, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > No, they are not; not even as RAM disk files. A pipe communicates directly > between processes (like "tasks"). A DOS partisan once explained his > misunderstanding of pipes to me that way: > > CAT reads /etc/passwd and

Re: Obtaining current ASID in REXX

2016-02-05 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Thanks Lucas, this looks like NetView REXX (?). I have this part ready and waiting for the ASID-identifying bit :) I can now make it work with Roberto's snippet to get the JOBID. – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Obtaining current ASID in REXX

2016-02-05 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Thanks Lizette, I believe I'm signed up to that list as well, just forgot I could post there! – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 5:09

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Ed Gould
Bill: There was a product from IBM called PCF and it would let you string out tso commands with a ";" between each command and you could do what you are talking about I just remembered it a 445A . ex: alloc (systut1)da(in.contl) shr;alloc (sysut2) da(out.data) new sp(1 1) trk;alloc

Re: Obtaining current ASID in REXX

2016-02-05 Thread Steve Horein
Towards the bottom of this list of documents there are titles with "Data Area" in them. http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/v2r2pdf/#IEA They will (indirectly) explain why/how that bit of Rexx works. The journey always begins at home: "The PSA maps the storage that starts at

Re: Java (was: DFSORT - SMF Records - GMT To EST)

2016-02-05 Thread Scott Chapman
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 11:41:52 +1100, Andrew Rowley wrote: >I am using JZOS to run Java as a batch job, and these are my tests for >general processing of SMF data rather than time zone conversion >specifically. It wouldn't surprise me if the batch job is better than

Re: Obtaining current ASID in REXX

2016-02-05 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Good news! I plunged into the "depths" of the ASCB and found what I needed.. /* REXX */ ascb = C2D(Storage(224,4)) ascbasid = C2X(Storage(D2X(ascb+36),2)) Say 'ascbasid='ascbasid LOL, can't believe it was this easy. – Vignesh

IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Bill Woodger
Ed, I'm fairly sure Paul was referring to the original "IBM PC-type" (although pre-dating the IBM PC) operating system from Microsoft. This had "pipes" but they weren't really pipes. Instead of passing each piece of output to the next process, so that multiple processes are all active,

IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Bill Woodger
Tom, I think if you use that cat to grep to awk as an example, you'll get confusion from the students. They'll say "why don't you just do it in awk?" or even reel off an obscure Perl one-liner. Using ls into grep into tail may be more realistic. On Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:00:36 UTC, Tom

Re: Sort Job

2016-02-05 Thread Ron Thomas
ok that is fine bill, i was able to code the required sort card . Thanks! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 00:02:37 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: > >-SNIP- >The three jobsteps can be cut down to one if you use the "new" >control cards in sort. >Ask the sort people too show you how. > But does that make a good beginners' introduction to JCL? -- gil

Error ICE007A on ICETOOL OMIT sentence

2016-02-05 Thread Bill Woodger
From the DFSORT Application Programming Guide description of INCLUDE: "You can specify either an INCLUDE statement or an OMIT statement in the same DFSORT run, but not both" -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Error ICE007A on ICETOOL OMIT sentence

2016-02-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
Did you look at the syntax diagram for continuing control cards in DFSORT? What did it say? https://www-304.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.icea100/ice2ca_Continuation_lines.htm?lang=en Or Tiny URL http://tinyurl.com/jce63eh Check the control statements for

Re: Error ICE007A on ICETOOL OMIT sentence

2016-02-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Hilario Garcia wrote: >//STEP0010EXEC PGM=ICETOOL >//TOOLMSGDD SYSOUT=* >//DFSMSG DD SYSOUT=* >//VLSHCNTL DD * > OPTION COPY,VLSHRT > INCLUDE

Error ICE007A on ICETOOL OMIT sentence

2016-02-05 Thread Hilario Garcia
Hello, I need to omit records with some users that are located on SMF type 30 records. The code that I have is: //STEP0010EXEC PGM=ICETOOL //TOOLMSGDD SYSOUT=* //DFSMSG DD SYSOUT=* //VLSHCNTL DD *

Error ICE007A on ICETOOL OMIT sentence

2016-02-05 Thread Bill Woodger
You can't have both INCLUDE and OMIT in the same step. You'll need to work your omissions into the INCLUDE or your inclusions into the OMIT. On Friday, 5 February 2016 13:13:41 UTC, Hilario Garcia wrote: > Hello, > > I need to omit records with some users that are located on SMF type 30 >

Re: Count smf type 30-5 records

2016-02-05 Thread Hilario Garcia
Hello Elardus, Thank you very much for your solutions. It's works fine. Kind Regards. Hilario -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 00:16:41 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: > >The part I think you are missing is that cat and grep and awk are >system commands and as such are included in UNIX >Z/OS has no real equivalence (unless you are talking OE then that is >a whole separate discussion). > Actually, IEBGENER for

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 03:11:34 -0600, Bill Woodger wrote: > >> ... A DOS partisan once explained his >> misunderstanding of pipes to me that way: >> >> CAT reads /etc/passwd and writes to temporary file TEMP1. >> When CAT terminates, GREP reads TEMP1 and writes TEMP2 >> When GREP

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 04:57:49 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: > >There was a product from IBM called PCF and it would let you string >out tso commands with a ";" between each command and you could do >what you are talking about I just remembered it a 445A . ex: alloc >(systut1)da(in.contl) shr;alloc

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 06:55:25 -0600, Bill Woodger wrote: >Tom, > >I think if you use that cat to grep to awk as an example, you'll get confusion >from the students. They'll say "why don't you just do it in awk?" or even reel >off an obscure Perl one-liner. > Or DFSORT. /* ( but not in one

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 13:19:25 -0600, John McKown wrote: >the grandfather of them all ... >was the Imsai 8080. Not to mention many other CP/M-80 machines, such as >Comemco and Altair 8800. ITYM Cromemco. The IMSAI was a clone of the Altair. If you want to think of one as the "Grandfather", it

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Linda
I had an Apple ][ with an acoustic coupler. It auto dialed over a regular telco dial tone line using a program loaded from a cassette player, or if one could afford it, from an early floppy drive. The college I went to had a Univac 90/70d. The were 4 student dialup numbers. I could get into one

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 14:00:29 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >8 bit MOS Technology 6510 with 64KB memory - Loosely based on Motorola AFAIK. Depends on what you mean by "based on". The 6502 was designed by some of the same people who designed the 6800 at Motorola, but it was a rather different