Re: Z/OS ATOPCEED

2016-05-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
As others have pointed out, please post messages for this issue. Did the users who could not logon get CSV message? If so, post the entire message and text. If ATOPCEED is a started Task, you should be able to view the JOBLOG for the STC and see what it does. If you need more info on

Re: How expensive is AMODE switching?

2016-05-04 Thread Walt Farrell
It would need to purge the pipeline, wouldn't it? I would think that all the operand addresses for instructions in the pipeline would need to be recalculated. And I suspect it might affect instruction interlocks and out-of-order instruction execution, too.

Re: How expensive is AMODE switching?

2016-05-04 Thread Charles Mills
... or there's some implication of AMODE switching that has not occurred to us. "It takes that long because it must _." I would think the cost might depend on how you measured it. (Doesn't it for every instruction nowadays!) I could certainly see SAMxx invalidating any branch prediction,

Re: How expensive is AMODE switching?

2016-05-04 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
All I can say is WOW, also. There are only two reasons I can think of to have it cost that much. 1) It is a milli-code instruction, or 2) It purges the pipeline. If that time is for each instruction, then I tend to think it is milli-code. If the time is for a SAM64/SAM31 pair, then I think

Re: How expensive is AMODE switching?

2016-05-04 Thread Charles Mills
Wow! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 2:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How expensive is AMODE switching? On 5/4/2016 1:49 PM, Jerry Callen wrote: >

Re: How expensive is AMODE switching?

2016-05-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 4 May 2016 15:49:05 -0500, Jerry Callen wrote: >Before I sit down and write a test program to time it, can anyone tell me how >expensive the AMODE switching instructions are (SAM31/SAM64)? I have an >AMODE-64 function that needs to execute a short segment of AMODE-31 code in a >loop (I

Re: How expensive is AMODE switching?

2016-05-04 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/4/2016 1:49 PM, Jerry Callen wrote: Before I sit down and write a test program to time it, can anyone tell me how expensive the AMODE switching instructions are (SAM31/SAM64)? Our zHISR benchmark averages the time required to switch from 31-bit mode to 64-bit mode and back again,

Re: How expensive is AMODE switching?

2016-05-04 Thread Charles Mills
I would think not much at all (but what I think and $4 will get you a coffee at the Poughkeepsie Starbucks). How hard long could it take to start using all of the bits of the registers for addressing rather than half of them? I would guess it might cause a refresh of the data cache, but that is

How expensive is AMODE switching?

2016-05-04 Thread Jerry Callen
Before I sit down and write a test program to time it, can anyone tell me how expensive the AMODE switching instructions are (SAM31/SAM64)? I have an AMODE-64 function that needs to execute a short segment of AMODE-31 code in a loop (I know this sounds wacky, but there is actually a reason why

Re: ADR309E Message during Restore

2016-05-04 Thread Ward, Mike S
Larger number in fewer bytes. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 1:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ADR309E Message during Restore On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:01 PM,

Re: ADR309E Message during Restore

2016-05-04 Thread Carlos Bodra
Thanks very much for this. Really I don´t guess about to read 2721 as hexa number but a normal number since it isn´t in x'' or 0x. 0d0b is clear that is hexa number but 2721 isn´t. Any way thanks again. CARLOS BODRA IBM Certified zSystem São Paulo - SP - BRAZIL Em 04/05/2016 15:16,

Re: Z/OS ATOPCEED

2016-05-04 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shashi Kumar wrote: >please any one knows about ATOPCEED in zos. What is that thing ATOPCEED? >.because we had a issue in one of our client system... Please describe the issue. >which someone refreshed LLA... With what command? Please post the command and messages from that. >it was causing

Re: Z/OS ATOPCEED

2016-05-04 Thread Blake, Daniel J [CTR]
Without seeing the messages your users are getting I'd say you have a LNKLSTed library in extents. Thank You ;-D an Blake   -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shashi Kumar Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 2:40 PM To:

Re: Z/OS ATOPCEED

2016-05-04 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/OCIO/ITSO) (CTR)
Can you please paste in the snippets of the log to show us what you mean? It sounds like ATOPCEED is a started task on this system, but I have never heard of it? Refreshing LLA would simply be an F LLA,REFRESH command in the log? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Z/OS ATOPCEED

2016-05-04 Thread Shashi Kumar
Hi, please any one knows about ATOPCEED in zos. if yes please let me know..because we had a issue in one of our client system...which someone refreshed LLA...it was causing 50 user can't able to login in one module...when we checked in syslog, command issued by ATOPCEED...is this is operator

Re: ADR309E Message during Restore

2016-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 4 May 2016 13:16:38 -0500, John McKown wrote: >On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:01 PM, J R wrote: >> In light of this confusion, one wonders why the developer opted to format >> the message in hexadecimal. > >​At the very least, he should have either done a x'' like HLASM or a >0x like

Re: ADR309E Message during Restore

2016-05-04 Thread John McKown
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:01 PM, J R wrote: > In light of this confusion, one wonders why the developer opted to format > the message in hexadecimal. > ​At the very least, he should have either done a x'' like HLASM or a 0x like C.​ > > Sent from my iPhone > > >

Re: ADR309E Message during Restore

2016-05-04 Thread Greg Dyck
On 5/4/2016 10:41 AM, Carlos Bodra wrote: SOURCE AND TARGET DEVICE CAPACITIES DO NOT MATCH. CYLINDER CAPACITY OF SOURCE VOLUME 2721, TARGET VOLUME 0D0B. This tells me that source volume has 2721 cylinders and target volume has 3339 cylinders (0d0b). No, the source volume has 10017 cylinders

Re: ADR309E Message during Restore

2016-05-04 Thread J R
In light of this confusion, one wonders why the developer opted to format the message in hexadecimal. Sent from my iPhone > On May 4, 2016, at 13:56, Greg Dyck wrote: > >> On 5/4/2016 10:41 AM, Carlos Bodra wrote: >> SOURCE AND TARGET DEVICE CAPACITIES DO NOT MATCH.

Re: ADR309E Message during Restore

2016-05-04 Thread Roach, Dennis
You cannot do a full volume restore, so stated in the messages manual. What you can safely do is a selective data set restore. If you want to live dangerously, you could restore by track address. Dennis Roach, CISSP, PMP IAM Access Administration – Consumer – Senior Analyst 2929 Allen Parkway,

Re: ADR309E Message during Restore

2016-05-04 Thread Staller, Allan
If this was a logical dump, you could restore the individual datasets. Execute the restore job with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' to get a list of the individual datasets. If this is a physical dump, you have no choice. You *MUST* provide at least a 3390-9 to restore successfully. X'2721' is 10017

Re: ADR309E Message during Restore

2016-05-04 Thread Warren, Cliff
It appears you are trying to restore a 3390 mod 9 to a 3390 mod 3. The 2721 you have listed below is hex for 10,017 which is the number of cylinders in a mod 9. In order to do a full volume restore your target volume will also need to be a 3390 mod 9 -Original Message- From: IBM

ADR309E Message during Restore

2016-05-04 Thread Carlos Bodra
Hello I´m trying to restore a full volume backed up with ADRDSSU utility and during restore I´m getting following message: SOURCE AND TARGET DEVICE CAPACITIES DO NOT MATCH. CYLINDER CAPACITY OF SOURCE VOLUME 2721, TARGET VOLUME 0D0B. This tells me that source volume has 2721 cylinders and

Reddit AMA - Richard Cebula

2016-05-04 Thread Cannaerts, Jan
For those interested, Richard Cebula, HLASM Development and Support Engineer is doing an AMA (Ask Me Anything) on reddit; https://www.reddit.com/r/mainframe/comments/4hud37/i_am_richard_cebula_ibm_high_level_assembler/ -- Jan

AW: Re: High number of samples seen in IEAVEPS1. What does this tell me?

2016-05-04 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>>MA-Tune finds the TCB not dispatched and >>looks at the OPSW in the RB, which points to PAUSE. >I find it hard to believe that a sampling program looks at "RBOPSW" of >something that is not running. That has been pure guessing; I have no clue how sampling programs get to know what happens

Re: SMPE ACCEPT will sometimes DELETE .Fx install files..... sometimes it won't, why?

2016-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 4 May 2016 08:23:11 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: > >> ... the ACCEPT job will sometimes cleanup ... >> The "sometimes" is puzzling. But is he always using the same CSI? And similar SMPCNTL? >... The default NOPURGE says "Do not purge ..." >... , then update your active OPTIONS entry

Re: Scheduled STCs running as instream procs?

2016-05-04 Thread Dan D
My test system is z/OS 2.2 but the message I indicated has been there for a long time (before 1.13 ;-) ) I was thinking that your started job's JCL was ... //WTOTEST JOB ...etc. ... //STEPNAME EXEC WTOPROC If that was your JCL then you'd have a message in JESYSMSG indicating where WTOPROC was

Re: SMPE ACCEPT will sometimes DELETE .Fx install files..... sometimes it won't, why?

2016-05-04 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 5/3/2016 4:17 PM, Paul Gamble wrote: I'm starting to notice with some IBM product updgrades (ie Tivoli OMEGAMON XE products) that the ACCEPT job will sometimes cleanup after the ACCEPT job is run deleting all the .Fx install files. This is usually associated with the IGD105I msgid: IGD105I

Re: Dataset space information

2016-05-04 Thread Mike Shaw
On 5/3/2016 7:42 PM, michelbutz wrote: For CVAF I need the DEB of the VTOC > Michael: If you use the technique I mentioned previously, the address of the DEB for the VTOC is available in the DCB after you OPEN the VTOC, but by then you are all set up to read the VTOC sequentially without

Re: High number of samples seen in IEAVEPS1. What does this tell me?

2016-05-04 Thread Peter Relson
>MA-Tune finds the TCB not dispatched and >looks at the OPSW in the RB, which points to PAUSE. I find it hard to believe that a sampling program looks at "RBOPSW" of something that is not running. As to the question/answer about disablement: while the application itself is not disabled,

Re: Scheduled STCs running as instream procs?

2016-05-04 Thread Willy Jensen
Hm, interesting. My started job starts with this: //WTOTEST JOB (1),'WTOTEST', // CLASS=A,REGION=32M //* . . . etc etc SDSF shows the following files: JESMSGLG JESJCL JESYSMSG SYSTSPRT TB No SYSMSGS. The JESMSGS

Re: Dataset space information

2016-05-04 Thread Willy Jensen
I would recommend the VTOC program from CBTTAPE.ORG file 112. It can provide a lot of information, including the CCHHR of the dataset. You can filter by datasetname and volser. Willy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Dataset space information

2016-05-04 Thread retired mainframer
If all you want to know is how the dataset is allocated on the DASD, the TSO LISTDS command with the LABEL operand will display the DSCB including the extents. The display is in a pseudo-dump format and the DFSMSdfp Advanced Services manual shows the internal structure. > -Original