Re: maintaining PARMLIBs over several sysplexes

2017-02-17 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Three parmlibs: SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB: The same across 50-odd LPARs across 3 plexes. IBM/usermod maintained. SYS1.PARMLIB: same story. Site maintained. SYS1.PARMLIB. is specific to the plex, but except for the mount statements in BPXPRMxx there's only some transient SLIP members in there. The first

Re: JCL IF Condition - I'm Missing Something

2017-02-17 Thread scott Ford
Gil: Heres what I did: //BUILDLIB JOB SYSTEMS,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=A,PRTY=8, // NOTIFY=,REGION=4096K //*--* //* BUILD IDF-TSS PRODUCT LIBRARIES * //*--* //MYLIBS JCLLIB

Re: Unterse for 64 bit LINUX?

2017-02-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 February 2017 at 14:55, Gary Jacek wrote: > > Is there software available for 64 bit LINUX that is compatible with a file > that is tersed using AMATERSE > on zOS 2.1 ? 64 bit Linux on what platform? Intel? z? ARM? > The vendor who wants to unterse the file has

Re: JCL IF Condition - I'm Missing Something

2017-02-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:16:40 -0600, John McKown wrote: >On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 1:03 PM, George, William wrote: > >> The JCL below >> 1. Sets symbolic = "A" >> 2. checks if a dataset exists, >> 3. if it does exist it changes the symbolic = "B" >> 4. for the dataset used

Re: Unterse for 64 bit LINUX?

2017-02-17 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
CBTTAPE.ORG File 892 //***FILE 892 is TERSE for platforms other than z/OS, and it //* should be compatible with TERSE for z/OS that //* comes from IBM. Since several different versions //* are included here, we have packaged them as a zip //* file with

Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S

2017-02-17 Thread Jim Mulder
The engineers tell me that for GP engines, LPAR dispatches the core as SMT-1 regardless of whether the partition is SMT-1 (PROCVIEW CPU) or SMT-2 (PROCVIEW CORE). And I wouldn't expect there to be much zIIP eligible work during system initialization, It is true that in PROCVIEW CORE, there are

Re: KC!? Susan Shumway?

2017-02-17 Thread Susan Shumway
Re: your complaint of the day, I did some investigation. We moved the HLASM documentation out of the z/OS V2R2 KC and now instead point to the HLASM KC (https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSENW6). This is to prevent duplication, etc. However, while evidence of the HLASM documentation

Re: Unterse for 64 bit LINUX?

2017-02-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:55:52 -0700, Gary Jacek wrote: >Is there software available for 64 bit LINUX that is compatible with a file >that is tersed using AMATERSE on zOS 2.1 ? AMATERSE running on MVS 3.8 under Hercules? :) -- Tom Marchant

Re: maintaining PARMLIBs over several sysplexes

2017-02-17 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Hey there mate, As you already know my current customer's process, I will talk about a previous experience that applies to the scenario mentioned. Customer had 3 Parallel Sysplexes: - SYSPLEX A w/ 4 LPARs (3 prod/1 test) => 3 production systems used shared SYS1.PARMLIB. Test system had its own

Re: SAG - QVS vs. D M=CPU [was: Layout CPC serial number z13S]

2017-02-17 Thread Neil Duffee
Caveat: daily list digestion leads to backups in responses... *grin* Brian: You may already know [1] but SAG actually uses the QVS interface to query the machine. There is a sample NATQVS program [2] where you can see the results it reports. Perhaps, if the old machine is still available,

Re: JCL IF Condition - I'm Missing Something

2017-02-17 Thread J R
Did you mean RC > 0 ? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2017, at 14:29, Hardee, Chuck > wrote: > > William, > > Here's a modified version of your test without SETs: > > //* > //CKEXIST1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS

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2017-02-17 Thread Edward Gould
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Re: Wlm and adabas\complete

2017-02-17 Thread Neil Duffee
Caveat: list digestion leads to delayed responses... I'm surprised Lizette hasn't piped up already but I'll pass along that you would probably get a better response via sa...@listserv.uark.edu which is where the SAG clients hang out. I've cc:'d them in this message. Since we were DB2, Adabas

Unterse for 64 bit LINUX?

2017-02-17 Thread Gary Jacek
Hello list Is there software available for 64 bit LINUX that is compatible with a file that is tersed using AMATERSE on zOS 2.1 ? The vendor who wants to unterse the file has tried Google but cannot find any leads. Gary Jacek - TELUS IT - Western Canada IT Services - tel (604) 695-6282

Re: JCL IF Condition - I'm Missing Something

2017-02-17 Thread Hardee, Chuck
William, Here's a modified version of your test without SETs: //* //CKEXIST1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * LISTCAT ENTRIES('S01CH.TEST.LOADLIB') /*

Re: JCL IF Condition - I'm Missing Something

2017-02-17 Thread George, William@FTB
Thanks. I guess I'll have to attack the setting of the suffix differently then. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim Brooks Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 11:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JCL IF

Re: JCL IF Condition - I'm Missing Something

2017-02-17 Thread Jim Brooks
The SET statement is not executed conditionally. For example, if the SET statement appears in an IF/THEN/ELSE/ENDIF statement construct, the value is assigned to the symbolic parameter regardless of the logic of the construct. Regards, Jim On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:03 PM, George, William@FTB

Re: JCL IF Condition - I'm Missing Something

2017-02-17 Thread George, William@FTB
Thanks John Actually I did see in my research of what I could be missing so one of my tests I placed another SORT step inside the THEN - ENDIF condition and it too was processed. That is, as mentioned the THEN condition always processed when the CHECKIF return code was RC=0. I probably should

Re: JCL IF Condition - I'm Missing Something

2017-02-17 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 1:03 PM, George, William@FTB wrote: > The JCL below > > 1. Sets symbolic = "A" > > 2. checks if a dataset exists, > > 3. if it does exist it changes the symbolic = "B" > > 4. for the dataset used in the Step3. > >

Re: Maximum size of a PDSE library?

2017-02-17 Thread Mike Schwab
I think a PDSE can only exist on one volume, so a 1TB limit (so far). 64K track limit does not apply. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieab600/xddspace.htm On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >

JCL IF Condition - I'm Missing Something

2017-02-17 Thread George, William@FTB
The JCL below 1. Sets symbolic = "A" 2. checks if a dataset exists, 3. if it does exist it changes the symbolic = "B" 4. for the dataset used in the Step3. However, processing ALWAYS falls into the THEN path even when the RC = 0. What am I missing? Note: this is just

Re: maintaining PARMLIBs over several sysplexes

2017-02-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
One shop I was at we only had 2 parmlibs. One shipped by IBM and the other maintained by the MVS group. The one maintained by the MVS Group managed 36 images and 16 plexes at the time. So the suffixes were very important. XX all plexes X1 Specific to LPAR1 in a plex X2 Specific to LPAR2

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: maintaining PARMLIBs over several sysplexes

2017-02-17 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
We maintain in concatenation order: SYS1.<-- Does Not Roll SYS1.<-- Does Not Roll SYS1.PARMLIB<-- Common Routines or altered routines from IBM.PARMLIB, Rolls SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB<-- Vanilla IBM Shipped Parmlib members NEVER Edited. Rolls SYS1.SYSPROG.PARMLIB<-- Sysprogs testing parmlib at bottom of

Re: maintaining PARMLIBs over several sysplexes

2017-02-17 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
We have a Sandbox system in it's own sysplex and a primary sysplex with two LPARS. Each LPAR has it's own SYS1.PARMLIB, it used to share and they used the LPAR # as part of the suffix to members, i.e., COMMND10 for LPAR 1, COMMND20 for LPAR 2, it is still used that way, but now the

Re: IBM's 12-month SVC period replaced with MVM

2017-02-17 Thread Al Sherkow
Minor point: April 10, 2017 will bring a new release of SCRT, not a new Version. Customers are required to use the most recent version but you do not need to install an SCRT release unless you need the functionality of that release. Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd. Consulting

Re: Maximum size of a PDSE library?

2017-02-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the reference, Tom. But what about total PDSE size? Can it exceed 4Gb uncompressed? Obviously compression is a viable option too, but it would be helpful to know the actual cylinder/Gb size limit (assuming there is one). Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: maintaining PARMLIBs over several sysplexes

2017-02-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
only one sysplex here sorry, but almost the same setup as Allan SYS1.plexname.PARMLIB - for all members, common and LPAR specific using members for each lpar part of migration - user modified parms of IBM's parms SYS1.PARMLIB - EMPTY on the SYSRES automatically concatinated at IPL time

Re: maintaining PARMLIBs over several sysplexes

2017-02-17 Thread Allan Staller
SYS1.LPAR.PARMLIB (unique to this LPAR in plex. Never moves). SYS1.PARMLIB (common to all LPARS in plex. Never moves). SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB (on sysres for all LPARS in plex. Changes w/IBM maint. Always moves) Synchronization/promotion between Plexes is an exercise in change control.

Re: maintaining PARMLIBs over several sysplexes

2017-02-17 Thread Grinsell, Don
We use a common parmlib for those members that can be the same and concatenate an lpar specific one for those that can't. However, we only have to manage 4 lpars, so it's not too onerous a task. -- Donald Grinsell, Systems Programmer Enterprise Technology Services Bureau SITSD/Montana

maintaining PARMLIBs over several sysplexes

2017-02-17 Thread Mike Cairns
Hi all - it's been a long time since I posted a question here, looking forward to hearing from you all. Question about your local policy/practice: When faced with the task of maintaining multiple PARMLIBS over a few related sysplexes (sandpit, development, production), do you: Prefer to try

Re: Maximum size of a PDSE library?

2017-02-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:15:40 -0500, Farley, Peter wrote: >2. Can PDSE's be allocated as Address Extended files on an EAV volume? Yes. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_1.13.0/com.ibm.zos.r13.idak100/eav3pl.htm -- Tom Marchant

Maximum size of a PDSE library?

2017-02-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I read in DFSMS "Using Datasets" that a PDSE can have up to 123 extents, but I am not finding any specific limits on total PDSE dataset size. Specific questions for non-program-object ("data") PDSE's: 1. Are PDSE's limited to 4Gb total size? 2. Can PDSE's be allocated as Address

Re: IBM's 12-month SVC period replaced with MVM

2017-02-17 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-02-17 o 10:39, Timothy Sipples pisze: I can add a few more comments to Al's nice summary: [...] 2. One of MVM's operational implications is that you might not be required to delete all copies of a previous, retired version as long as you remain licensed for the current version.

Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S

2017-02-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
all attempts to respond via email fails - Peter; I'm going to assume you're asking me? we have a z13s U03 5 MSU's on a TEST LPAR I have 1 shared GP engine and one shared Ziip, IPLing was very slow, so slow that some processes that use USS services took so long to initialize other tasks

Re: "Fraud detection failure" messages

2017-02-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Yes - I'm getting This message was created automatically by the mail system (ecelerity). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: >>> IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu (reading BANNER):

Re: Dynamic Exit and SDSF DYNX

2017-02-17 Thread Peter Relson
>Why are the LoadPt and ModLen for the IPL-loaded Exits >not shown in either DYNX or the DIAG output? It is not related to IPL-loaded vs not. It specifically is LPA vs not. For an exit routine in LPA, the system does not have any interest in the load point or the length. Dynamic exits itself

Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S

2017-02-17 Thread Peter Relson
>we've tried to test this options on a small test LPAR sharing >one zIIP engine, we did not like the results, Could you please elaborate on what you did not like about the results? Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design --

Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S

2017-02-17 Thread Ron van der Zande
Thanks all for the answers. Got another company having 84 as start of serial number so looks ok for me now. Regards Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: IBM's 12-month SVC period replaced with MVM

2017-02-17 Thread Timothy Sipples
I can add a few more comments to Al's nice summary: 1. Multi-Version Measurement also applies to z/VSE and its associated IBM products, and to "IPLA" products such as z/VM, WebSphere Application Server for z/OS, OMEGAMON products, etc., etc. 2. One of MVM's operational implications is that you