Re: JCL System symbols

> ——SNIP-- > Only concern would be users creating datasets with DATE/TIME entries and > there is no cleanup. > > So you could have a user create 365 Date datasets * hhmmss entries and then > not have a process to DELETE the things no longer needed. > > I

Re: "xkcd" on doing a code quality review.

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Re: JCL System symbols

Which is what DFHSM and MGMCLAS's with expriation controls set are for. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 9:06 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: JCL System

Re: JCL System symbols

If a user has to do an EXPORT, SET SYMBOL=xxx That takes effort If they can code //DDLBL DD DSN=D Then much less effort. And the other concerns presented are still true 1) Where is the JCL converted 2) Is the JCL converted on the submitting system or a different system? 3) How is

Re: JCL System symbols

On 2017-05-05, at 10:05, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > IBM's reluctance to provide system symbol support in *batch* is well > motivated. From the beginning of system symbols, they were honored only in > STC and TSU. In batch they were ignored. The problem with batch is that a > number of key

Re: JCL System symbols

Agree, for me, being a storage admin in a previous life I had the Storage admin here add migration rules to migrate these datasets that have not been referenced in 10 days. Carmen From: "Lizette Koehler" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017

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Re: "xkcd" on doing a code quality review.

Pommier, Rex wrote: And the reviewees keep coming back for more abuse? :-) No, I usually get fired before the next review... :) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jack J. Woehr Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 9:49 AM To:

Re: "xkcd" on doing a code quality review.

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On Thu, 4 May 2017 22:56:47 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote: >On 05/02/2017 05:15 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: >> On Wed, 3 May 2017 00:05:31 +0200, R.S. >> wrote: >> >>> The topic was discussed recently, but I haven't found in the listserv >>> archives an

Re: "xkcd" on doing a code quality review.

In case you missed 1 & 2: https://xkcd.com/1513/ https://xkcd.com/1695/ - my favorite sas On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote: > And the reviewees keep coming back for more abuse? :-) > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: JCL System symbols

The REXX MVSVAR function with the 'SYMDEF' parameter will display the Static and Dynamic System Symbols assigned to your system. No special authority required! You have to supply the Symbol Name to extract. Here is a REXX program to extract and display the currently defined, (at least as of

Re: JCL System symbols

My earlier post did not consider dynamic system symbols. There is an excellent chart at https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieae200/dynpsm.htm listing (I suppose all) supported dynamic symbols in z/OS V2R2. Most are date related. Some of these symbols

Re: JCL System symbols

@Lizette: If that's your only concern, then you have no concerns. There's no connection between JCL symbols and users creating lots of datasets. What I do is use an IEBEDIT (IEBGENER also fine) job to submit the actual job from //SYSUT1 DD DATA,SYMBOLS=EXECSYS to the INTRDR. Voila, full symbol

Re: JCL System symbols

Seems to me that they could have just added the "SYMBOLS=" keyword to JOB and PROC like they did for DD *. Making it an option specified only in JESPARMs is pretty non-optimal. sas On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote: > I am still running z/OS 1.13 and

Re: JCL System symbols

My bad. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Nims,Alva John (Al) Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 12:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JCL System symbols I am still running z/OS 1.13 and the MVS "DISPLAY SYMBOLS"

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Re: "xkcd" on doing a code quality review.

And the reviewees keep coming back for more abuse? :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jack J. Woehr Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 9:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "xkcd" on doing a code quality review.

Re: JCL System symbols

I am still running z/OS 1.13 and the MVS "DISPLAY SYMBOLS" will only display "Static" system symbols, it does not show what dynamic symbols are available Same with TASID & SHOWZOS, they only show the "Static" symbols. FYI: IPLINFO from Mark Zelden, only shows Static. Don't know MXI. Al Nims

Re: JCL System symbols

Only concern would be users creating datasets with DATE/TIME entries and there is no cleanup. So you could have a user create 365 Date datasets * hhmmss entries and then not have a process to DELETE the things no longer needed. I will use the inappropriate term - ga-zillions of datasets in

Re: JCL System symbols

IBM's reluctance to provide system symbol support in *batch* is well motivated. From the beginning of system symbols, they were honored only in STC and TSU. In batch they were ignored. The problem with batch is that a number of key factors affecting symbols are unpredictable. So when and how

Re: JCL System symbols

Bill Ashton, Just in case if your shop has SYSSYM=DISALLOW for the jobclass you running, here is an alternative of getting the desired results. //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=EZACFSM1 //SYSOUT DD DSN=&,DISP=(,PASS),SPACE=(TRK,(1,1),RLSE) //SYSINDD DATA,DLM=@@ ALLOC DSNAME('ASHTON.D') -

Re: JCL System symbols

The OS command D SYMBOLS will display all system symbols including those defined by the installation. If you don't have console authority, I'm not sure how to get that display. ;-( . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program

Re: JCL System symbols

Strange mindset, afraid of change - I don't see any concern or auditing issues. Been slow to change that status quo - I'm trying :) Carmen - Original Message - From: "Paul Gilmartin" <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, May

Re: JCL System symbols

On Fri, 5 May 2017 10:00:12 -0400, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >Good point, sorry to make the assumption , for the most part we DISALLOW >systems symbols in batch > Why? Cui bono? Is there a performance or security concern? -- gil

Re: "xkcd" on doing a code quality review.

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Re: "xkcd" on doing a code quality review.

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Re: JCL System symbols

Good point, sorry to make the assumption , for the most part we DISALLOW systems symbols in batch from the SDSF JC display COMMAND INPUT ===> SCROLL ===> PAGE PREFIX=* DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SYSNAME= NP CLASS v JesLog XBMProc DupJob JobRC Active SysSym DsEnqShr A (NOSPIN) NO MAXRC YES

Re: JCL System symbols

TASID, MXI, SHOWZOS -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JCL System symbols Just out of curiosity, is there a way for those

Re: JCL System symbols

Just out of curiosity, is there a way for those of us without console authority to get the current list of symbols on the system? I tried the SDSF SYM command suggested earlier, but SDSFAUX is not running on our system so it fails. If it matters, we are z/OS 2.1 here. Peter -Original

Re: JCL System symbols

just now reading the rest of you response, sorry A.D.D. kicking in I think I found what I needed searching for using symbols in JCL and brought me to the KB, to see what system symbols are available on your system MVS command 'D SYMBOLS' Carmen - Original Message - From: "Bill

Re: JCL System symbols

Or you can enter D SYMBOLS from the console (SDSF Line command or MVS operator command) Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 6:55 AM > To:

Re: JCL System symbols

For system symbols - make sure you have the ability to create them. They are documented in the MVS INIT and Tuning https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieae200/dynpsm.htm Make sure on the JES2 JOBCLASS definition in JES2 you verify how this is coded

Re: JCL System symbols

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Bill Ashton wrote: > Carmen, that's just what I need - thanks so much! > > On a related note, is there a way to find out all the system symbols, so I > don't have to keep asking one-off questions here? > ​

Re: JCL System symbols

SYM command in SDSF is you are current... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Ashton Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 9:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JCL System symbols Carmen, that's just what I need -

Re: JCL System symbols

Excellent, glad I could help Carmen - Original Message - From: "Bill Ashton" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 8:50:17 AM Subject: Re: JCL System symbols Carmen, that's just what I need - thanks so much! On a related note, is there

Re: JCL System symbols

Carmen, that's just what I need - thanks so much! On a related note, is there a way to find out all the system symbols, so I don't have to keep asking one-off questions here? Thanks! B On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > Bill I have a proc that starts

Re: JCL System symbols

Bill I have a proc that starts @ IPL time to copy parmlib datasets to a backup using date time i use this //CLEAN EXEC PGM=IDCAMS, //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD *,SYMBOLS=EXECSYS < DEL 'ATTS.PROD.' /* //IPLINFO EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M,PARM='IPLINFO', //

JCL System symbols

Hi again...I have searched, and must be looking for the wrong thing, so I hope you can help me. Is there a system symbol I can use in my DSN that has the current date in it? I understand the implications of cross-date boundaries, etc., and am looking to try something using the date in my dataset

"xkcd" on doing a code quality review.

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On Thu, 4 May 2017 07:44:48 -0500, Bruce Wells wrote: >On Wed, 3 May 2017 08:38:23 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>It should improve in z/OS 2.3: >> >>

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

On Wed, 3 May 2017 10:29:14 +0200, James Wellingtin wrote: >Hey >I know this here might be a bit of a nasty question to ask >Have a customer who has intensions of migrate to another platform than IBM >Mainframe, don't know what ? >They have asked MetaWare to be the