CFSIZER no longer available?

2018-06-07 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
Hello; I wanted to use the IBM WEB BASED tool CFSIZER at http://www.ibm.com/systems/support/z/cfsizer/ and specifying SMF. After filling in the criteria and depressing the SUBMIT I am directed to https://www.ibm.com/it-infrastructure/z This is a recent change in behavior. Has this tool

Re: RACF protection of a volume

2018-06-07 Thread Timothy Sipples
Todd Burrell wrote: >Hopefully this is not a stupid question - but >is it possibly via RACF (maybe with DASDVOL) >to allow a particular system to have only read >access to a DASD volume? We have a need to >possibly vary some devices onto a system in one >plex while it is being updated on another p

Re: Stack Exchange mainframe proposal

2018-06-07 Thread David Crayford
On 7/06/2018 7:36 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 15:50:34 +0800, David Crayford wrote: The good thing about Stack Exchange is that moderators can jump in an close a thread when it starts to drift and delete answers/comments that are inappropriate. Censors. Terrific. Doesn't IBM-M

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Odd thing about CICS people is that they don't install REXX/CICS when it's basically *free* with CICS. The DB2 interface is simple, CICS commands and CICS APIs are a snap. It can read and write a PDS or flat file. TSQ browse/write/delete is simple and it has a full screen interface similar to ISPF

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-07 Thread Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
Rammstein Thanks, Tom Savor -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 12:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Timothy Sipples
Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >You missed REXX/CICS. Am I the only person who uses this variant? John McKown wrote: >I don't have that product and so cannot code for it. You have it if you have CICS Transaction Server for z/OS, which includes the functions that were previously in the CICS REXX Runtime

Re: Where is the WLM website???

2018-06-07 Thread Edward Finnell
Yeah, I accused them of using their own software. This should not be a fool's errand. "Hey y'all watch this" usually does not lead to expected results. Do you have "Project Planing Software"? Can you drive it? M$ just bought github! In a message dated 6/7/2018 9:01:37 PM Central Standard Time,

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-07 Thread David Crayford
On 8/06/2018 3:15 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: It's amost Friday, right. At least here in Zurich Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not think. rap music? Isn't this a contradiction in terms ;-) What do you listen to, Beethoven? Ramstein? :) Apologies to all the

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hi Skip, Looks like you tried PPRC over "long distance" and had a bad exp back then. PPRC-XD should work fine for actual long distance, assuming that the LPAR itself can get an outage to let the final delta synchronize. – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mai

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hi Jerry, Replication over IP is really cool and simple; I suppose it needs the same trick to make the TDMF copy consistent as is required for PPRC-XD (quiescing all workload), in TDMF's case because it's host-based. Let's say ther's channel extension between A <-> B, and PPRC / PPRC-XD is used

Re: CSSMTP debug No Brackets Allowed

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2018-06-07, at 20:05:25, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > Here's my test code page generator: > Oops. Trying again: -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with th

Re: CSSMTP debug No Brackets Allowed

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 19:28:25 -0600, Roger Bolan wrote: >OK. I'm at my desk. >Using a PCOMM session defaulting to 1047. >In ISPF Browse, using DISPLAY CCSID 1047 >I see "010:MLCFGPROCESSCONFIGSTMT:TOKENARRAYÝ0M 5 Ý1M , I 7," >but if I use DISPLAY CCSID 037 >I see "010:MLCFGPROCESSCONFIGSTMT:TOKENAR

Re: Where is the WLM website???

2018-06-07 Thread Tom Conley
On 6/7/2018 12:02 PM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: I'll pass these comments on to the initiative leads so that they're aware of the specific problems and can hopefully direct resolutions ASAP. if your faint-hearted, don't read on. Someone better go off and kick'em in the ... and tell thos

Re: CSSMTP debug No Brackets Allowed

2018-06-07 Thread Roger Bolan
OK. I'm at my desk. Using a PCOMM session defaulting to 1047. In ISPF Browse, using DISPLAY CCSID 1047 I see "010:MLCFGPROCESSCONFIGSTMT:TOKENARRAYÝ0M 5 Ý1M , I 7," but if I use DISPLAY CCSID 037 I see "010:MLCFGPROCESSCONFIGSTMT:TOKENARRAY[0] 5 [1] , I 7," and I can see the brackets. Oddly, when

Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Ron hawkins
Jesse, Round trip delay time is the same on ESCON and Fiber Channel, but the mother-may-I nature of ESCON protocols used to pump-up the droop factor, even at 10km. Fiber Channel links changed the viability of synchronous at metro distances substantially. Personally, I think that the myth of ze

Re: RACF protection of a volume

2018-06-07 Thread Rob Schramm
Nice. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 5:33 PM Marna WALLE wrote: > I was thinking of possibly another method that you could look at...how > about making that volume have a READ-ONLY attribute in HCD? Read up on > this, as there are some restrictions. > > Marna WALLE > z/OS System Installation and Migrat

Re: Use of dynamic system symbols in JCL

2018-06-07 Thread Steve Horein
Thanks! I commented out that statement and got the same results to see with my own eyes. I also missed Sean's confirmation that "all is well" based on jobclass updates. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 2:34 PM Peter Hunkeler wrote: > >Are you specifying "EXPORT SYMLIST" in your JCL? > > > That one is not

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread Webster, Chris
In ISPF if you open the calendar in the status area and (for my setup) double click on the 'Day of year' a pop-up allows you to get any ddd/ converted. Standard Date - Enter the day and year below:

Re: Why are highly busy zIIPs worse than highly busy CPs?

2018-06-07 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 06/07/2018 02:26 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > There are some statements around zIIP utilization which I read here and > there. Statements like: > > - "You should not utilize one zIIP more than 30%, two zIIPs more than 60%..." > - "A task may become delayed for up to 3.2 ms (actually ZIIPAWMT) be

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-07 Thread Mark Regan
I've determined that rap music is very boring, to me anyway. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:15 PM Peter Hunkeler wrote: > It's amost Friday, right. At least here in Zurich > >Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not > think. > > > rap music? Isn't this a contradiction in te

How mainframes put muscle behind autonomous data maintenance software | Network World

2018-06-07 Thread Mark Regan
https://www.networkworld.com/article/3279949/data-center/how-mainframes-put-muscle-behind-autonomous-data-maintenance-software.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv

Re: RACF protection of a volume

2018-06-07 Thread Marna WALLE
I was thinking of possibly another method that you could look at...how about making that volume have a READ-ONLY attribute in HCD? Read up on this, as there are some restrictions. Marna WALLE z/OS System Installation and Migration IBM Poughkeepsie --

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:17 PM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > You missed REXX/CICS. Am I the only person who uses this variant? > ​I don't have that product and so cannot code for it. ​ -- Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not think. Maranatha! <>< John McKown --

AW: Re: SORTLIB DD

2018-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
I seem to remember similar problems, and telling sort an estimated amount of data to sort did help. Without looking up, I think the parm on the SORT statement is FILESZ=. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signof

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
You missed REXX/CICS. Am I the only person who uses this variant? On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 4:48 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Yes, I like to have ISPF aware applications that use ISPF services when > available and support ISPF variables. As an exampled, I'd like to do I/O > to/from a table. > > I fo

Re: SORTLIB DD

2018-06-07 Thread Michael Babcock
I understand now. Tape sortwks do work. My company used to have several jobs using them. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 1:44 PM David Betten wrote: > Just a few thoughts on ways you might be able to reduce the sort work > requirement. > > Since the input is on tape, do we know if DFSORT is getting ac

AW: Re: [EXTERNAL] AW: Re: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement

2018-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>I have a fairly simple ISPF dialog to work with the ZSTART variable. Get it >from www.lbdsoftware.com/zstart.zip or www.cbttape.org file 314. Great! Thanks for the pointer. I just think it's a typical shame that the product (ISPF) delivers halfway features. How small an effort would this b

Re: Where is the WLM website???

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 1:32 PM Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > (This time with text) > > Before you kick out the PFCSKs, keep in mind that they will choose our > retirement homes. > ​Mine is already picked out, by Moore's. It has a nice soft velvet lining​ and a pillow with good neck support. > > .

Re: Use of dynamic system symbols in JCL

2018-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Are you specifying "EXPORT SYMLIST" in your JCL? That one is not needed for system symbols to become available in batch JCL. It the jobclass SYSSYM=ALLOW | DISALLOW that decides. BTW, the symbols are resolved at conversion time. The EXPORT SYMLIST is needed so that JCL symbols can be used on

Re: [EXTERNAL] AW: Re: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement

2018-06-07 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
I have a fairly simple ISPF dialog to work with the ZSTART variable. Get it from www.lbdsoftware.com/zstart.zip or www.cbttape.org file 314. -- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) < Mainframe Systems Programmer - RavenTek Solution

AW: Re: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement

2018-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>If you like the benefits of many split screens then have a logon proc >(Clist/REXX) create the split screens automagically for you each logon. I have >8 session created behind the scenes. Have a look aht the ZSTART ISPF variable. It is there for just this reason. As usual with the ISPF guy

OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
It's amost Friday, right. At least here in Zurich >Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not think. rap music? Isn't this a contradiction in terms ;-) Apologies to all the rappers out there, and the ones who like that contradiction, ahem.. music. No offense intended.

AW: Re: Why are highly busy zIIPs worse than highly busy CPs?

2018-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>... however, we were warned that 'some customers' were experiencing serious >performance problems when zIIP eligible work spilled over to general CPs. Yeah, that is what I read and hear also, and I have no reason not to believe it. In fact, I suspect we've just been bitten by zIIP overload. How

Re: Why are highly busy zIIPs worse than highly busy CPs?

2018-06-07 Thread Martin Packer
Right. Though you've never been in my audience :-( you would've got the same message about DB2 V10, a fortiori 11, 12 from me. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook ID

Re: AW: Re: Why are highly busy zIIPs worse than highly busy CPs?

2018-06-07 Thread Martin Packer
As you'll see from my slides you really wouldn't want to delay the Prefetch and Deferred Write engines in any DB2 you care about. That's one example, perhaps the main one. Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes, I like to have ISPF aware applications that use ISPF services when available and support ISPF variables. As an exampled, I'd like to do I/O to/from a table. I forgot to mention TSSO as another environment. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 _

Re: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yeah, I almost always configured for one big partition and did both SPLIT and VSPLIT. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of John McKown Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 2:26 PM To: IBM-MA

Re: SORTLIB DD

2018-06-07 Thread David Betten
Just a few thoughts on ways you might be able to reduce the sort work requirement. Since the input is on tape, do we know if DFSORT is getting accurate file size information? Do you see DFSORT messages in the output like UNKNOWN FILE SIZE or INTERMEDIATE MERGE...? The reason I ask is that if DFSO

Re: SORTLIB DD

2018-06-07 Thread Allan Staller
If SYNCSORT, check out MAXSORT. DFSORT probably has something similar. I do not recall using SORTLIB when running MAXSORT. HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of PINION, RICHARD W. Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 1:17 PM T

Re: Where is the WLM website???

2018-06-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
(This time with text) Before you kick out the PFCSKs, keep in mind that they will choose our retirement homes. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com

Re: (External):Re: Where is the WLM website???

2018-06-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
. . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Al

Re: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > There were still 3290s used as consoles in the 2000s. I wish that I had a > 3290-compatible TN3270 client. > ​YES, from your mouth to a vendor's ear. I would love the ability to have a single TN3270E client which implemented​ "partitioned"

Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Data consistency was one of two reasons we chose circa 2000 to use XRC rather than PPRC. I know the technology has changed, and I've been *told* that PPRC is now capable of maintaining consistency, but I have not seen it in action. The other reason for XRC BTW was the synchronizing problem: we c

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:21 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > ISPF > ​Ah, yes, I guess you mean using ISPF display services to get input, display output​, and possibly update ISPF variables rather that TSO CLIST/REXX variables. > > NETVIEW > ​Unfortunately, I know nothing about NETVIEW because I'v

Re: z/OS and black cats

2018-06-07 Thread Mark Regan
When I use the link, I get back: Sorry, this content isn't available right now The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an audience you're not in. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:21 PM Nightwatch RenBand wrote: > My FB just popped up a pic from the "For the love of bl

Re: SORTLIB DD

2018-06-07 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Yes I know DFSORT, but many moons ago, we used SYNCSORT's tape sort, which was expressly for this type of problem. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 2:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SORTL

Re: SORTLIB DD

2018-06-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Let me reiterate. The problem job tries to allocate more DASD work space than *exists* on the system. SORTIN is on tape--multiple files. We have the capability of putting more volumes online temporarily, but this is a major PITA and requires intervention from the Storage boys. I'm hoping that ta

Re: IKJEFTSR

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, RC=24 is Incorrect parameters were supplied to the PUTGET service routine., so I would guess yes. I miss Bruce. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Wedn

Re: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
There were still 3290s used as consoles in the 2000s. I wish that I had a 3290-compatible TN3270 client. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of CM Poncelet Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 201

Re: CSSMTP debug No Brackets Allowed

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
>z/OS UNIX files can be tagged with a code page, Yes, if it's a tagged Unix file than the code page should be taken from the file. Otherwise they should use the locale. >Has anyone a scheme to translate the SYSOUT CHARS >parameter (available through SDSF) to/from a CCSID? It would be installat

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 09:27:26 -0500, John McKown wrote: >... >2) REXX via IRXJCL - "pure" non-TSO REXX >​6) REXX under UNIX - program invoked with a UNIX shell script written in REXX​ > It's a shame that UNIX directories are not supported in SYSEXEC concatenation. I do it anyway to a

Re: CSSMTP debug No Brackets Allowed

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 17:14:46 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >That doesn't solve the problem of incompatible EBCDIC code pages. Perhaps an >option to translate from the current locale? > z/OS UNIX files can be tagged with a code page, but not Classic data sets, nor SYSOUT, nor Linux files. Has anyo

Re: Stack Exchange mainframe proposal

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
SE would be a useful supplement, but even for technical question it is by no means a replacement. It has both significant advantages and serious problems. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on be

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:42:14 -0400, Gord Tomlin wrote: >On 2018-06-07 09:01, John McKown wrote: >> I do like what CA >> does in some of their products which would be nice to have in these >> facilities. They display the date as either dd/mm/.ddd or >> mm/dd/.ddd . I think that having a new

Re: CSSMTP debug No Brackets Allowed

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
I hate PC code pages! How much wasted effort have PC code pages caused? Take the m$ versions of the ISO code pages please! -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 09:27:26 -0500, John McKown wrote: >I've already written a utility program which is designed to run as a UNIX >command, mainly interactively from a UNIX shell, but it works from TSO >OSHELL and in batch via BPXBATCH or Co:Z launcher just fine. So, from a >"practical" viewpoint t

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
ISPF NETVIEW System REXX -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of John McKown Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: opinion: multi-platform program

Re: CSSMTP debug No Brackets Allowed

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
That doesn't solve the problem of incompatible EBCDIC code pages. Perhaps an option to translate from the current locale? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Frank Swarbrick Sent: T

Re: CSSMTP debug No Brackets Allowed

2018-06-07 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Sounds like you should write an RFE for z/OS to support ASCII and/or UTF-8 for all system and subsystem interfaces. :-) From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 7

Re: Where is the WLM website???

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
The web is not the Internet. The Internet doesn't know from links. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter Hunkeler Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 12:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.e

Re: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
IMHO timeouts are a security issue, period. The resource issues of the 1960s and 19702 have not been relevant in a long time. That said, I don't see sending a periodic Enter as a safe option. Isn't there something that you could sent that will have no effect on the session other than terminatin

Re: Why are highly busy zIIPs worse than highly busy CPs?

2018-06-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
We've had zIIPs for years. We monitored usage but were never terribly concerned as long as numbers didn't skyrocket. When we moved to DB2 V10, however, we were warned that 'some customers' were experiencing serious performance problems when zIIP eligible work spilled over to general CPs. The rea

Weird thought for ISPF enhancement

2018-06-07 Thread Nightwatch RenBand
I have long questioned the validity of TSO timeouts during normal working hours. I question whether the resource savings, outweigh the resource costs, including user time, of repeated logons and lost work. MY personal solution is to take advantage of the excellent scripting which comes with my 327

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
We have always used TDMF as it's a vendor neutral solution. Jerry Whitteridge Delivery Manager / Mainframe Architect GTS - Safeway Account 602 527 4871 Mobile jerry.whitteri...@ibm.com IBM Services IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 06/07/2018 01:36:55 AM: > From: Ron hawkins > To: IBM-MA

AW: Re: Why are highly busy zIIPs worse than highly busy CPs?

2018-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Isn't "fall back to the CP" because one would typically want one's work to run *somewhere* even if a zIIP were not available but perhaps a CP was? If you meant no zIIPs are available to the LPAR (not configured or the CEC does not have some), then there is no fall-back. Work units get queue

z/OS and black cats

2018-06-07 Thread Nightwatch RenBand
My FB just popped up a pic from the "For the love of black cats" group showing a home desk, two monitors and two black cats. The screen on the right appears to be a 3270 emulation into zOS running IOF which is an SDSF alternative. Interesting to see others are still there. Wish my desk were that

AW: Re: Why are highly busy zIIPs worse than highly busy CPs?

2018-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Scheduling an SRB isn't cheap. I don't know whether that's why, but for >whatever reason, IBM has built this "fall back to the CP" mechanism. What falls back is still SRBs. The scheduling overhead has already been done before. -- Peter Hunkeler ---

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread Steve Smith
It also helps if one is accurate. EDT == AST, not CST. Confused myself as CDT == EST. Now everbody's confused, I hope. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > Schedule international meetings only on unambiguous dates (6/6/18, > 12/12/12...). :-) And don't say EST, when you real

AW: Re: Why are highly busy zIIPs worse than highly busy CPs?

2018-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Once the delay is long enough, the CP does the work. They cost about 10X the >price of zIIPs. I understand the potential impact on the software bill zIIP-on-CP might have. That is not the point I want to get a better understanding. I'm interested in the technical aspects, only. IMHO, from

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 10:38 AM Gord Tomlin wrote: > On 2018-06-07 11:05, John McKown wrote: > > I thought that mm/dd/.jjj (US) or dd/mm/.jjj > > (non US) would be "better" > > For anyone that needs to look at US and non-US syslog output, this would > lead to unhappiness. Especially here

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread Steve Smith
Schedule international meetings only on unambiguous dates (6/6/18, 12/12/12...). :-) And don't say EST, when you really mean CST (i.e. EDT). Obligatory: https://xkcd.com/1179/ Like grammar and spelling, you can do what you want; but if you want to be understood, follow the standard. sas On Thu

Re: Where is the WLM website???

2018-06-07 Thread Allan Staller
Ditto! Kick out the PFCSK's -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 11:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where is the WLM website??? >I'll pass these comments on to the

Re: Where is the WLM website???

2018-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>I'll pass these comments on to the initiative leads so that they're aware of the specific problems and can hopefully direct resolutions ASAP. if your faint-hearted, don't read on. Someone better go off and kick'em in the ... and tell those useless m to go and look for another job.

Re: Why are highly busy zIIPs worse than highly busy CPs?

2018-06-07 Thread Charles Mills
Isn't "fall back to the CP" because one would typically want one's work to run *somewhere* even if a zIIP were not available but perhaps a CP was? zIIP's are all about software costs, right? So scheduling work is like buying a seat on Southwest. I need to get there, so if none of the "wanna get aw

Re: GDPR and ShopzSeries

2018-06-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I am always ordering software, ptfs, etc. for myself or the company I am working at, so I will continue to select the second radio button. Maybe resellers need to check the first button?? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf

Re: GDPR and ShopzSeries

2018-06-07 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Bob, Okay, then I don't have a good answer then. I guess by the nature of GDPR, you have to make sure everyone involved has received a copy of the GDPR notice. I noticed the Phil Smith responded, with not those words, but almost the same. The thing with this GDPR, I am no expert and really ta

Re: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement

2018-06-07 Thread Rob Schramm
And we have a winner in the 15-20 year range.. *UGH* Really takes the wind out of my "rant filled sails". I guess I should really expect such things... mainframes.. like the old Timex commercials "takes a licking, and keeps on ticking" Rob Schramm On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 9:35 PM CM Poncelet wro

Re: GDPR and ShopzSeries

2018-06-07 Thread Phil Smith
Bob Richards wrote, in part: >On the subject of GDPR and Shopz, what would be the >reason for selecting the first radio button? If you're ordering for someone else, the GDPR privacy notification needs to go to them. GDPR defines specific rules about notifying folks, so this is [at least perceive

Re: GDPR and ShopzSeries

2018-06-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Al, Yes, the radio buttons were just added at the bottom. However, the review or approval was not on that web page, if I remember correctly. It showed up when the order was validated?? (Not sure of this at the moment and I have nothing to order today that would provide the ability to verify thi

Re: Why are highly busy zIIPs worse than highly busy CPs?

2018-06-07 Thread Phil Smith
Peter Hunkeler wrote, in part: >There are some statements around zIIP utilization which I read here and there. >Statements like: >- "You should not utilize one zIIP more than 30%, two zIIPs more than 60%..." >- "A task may become delayed for up to 3.2 ms (actually ZIIPAWMT) before the >busy zIIP

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-06-07 11:05, John McKown wrote: I thought that mm/dd/.jjj (US) or dd/mm/.jjj (non US) would be "better" For anyone that needs to look at US and non-US syslog output, this would lead to unhappiness. Especially here in Canada where there is little consistency in the use of dd/mm

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 10:14 AM Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 6/7/2018 7:59 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > > I am just talking off the top of my head here but couldn't one write an > SDSF macro where if the user positioned the cursor on a "Julian" date and > hit the appropriate PF key, a pop-up would display

Re: Where is the WLM website???

2018-06-07 Thread Allan Staller
Same as the WLM pages. Very pretty, but functionally useless! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where is the WLM website?

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread Charles Mills
> The date/time at the current position is displayed there: I'll be darned! You learn something every day. Every good day anyway. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 8:14 AM

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/7/2018 7:59 AM, Charles Mills wrote: I am just talking off the top of my head here but couldn't one write an SDSF macro where if the user positioned the cursor on a "Julian" date and hit the appropriate PF key, a pop-up would display the date in a more user-familiar format? The OP's dile

Re: Where is the WLM website???

2018-06-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Tom Conley wrote: >FWIW, the RACF website is also off the air. Good luck finding DBSYNC anyhere. > Keep on keepin' on, IBM. Groan. I also find it to my dismay all my favourite RACF goodies are "poof" gone! :-( Mind you, I wanted to review a [old] SHARE presentation at ... http://www-1.ibm.co

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:42 AM Gord Tomlin wrote: > On 2018-06-07 09:01, John McKown wrote: > > I do like what CA > > does in some of their products which would be nice to have in these > > facilities. They display the date as either dd/mm/.ddd or > > mm/dd/.ddd . I think that having a ne

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread Charles Mills
AMEN!!! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gord Tomlin Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 7:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date. On 2018-06-07 09:01, John McKown wrote: > I

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread Charles Mills
I am just talking off the top of my head here but couldn't one write an SDSF macro where if the user positioned the cursor on a "Julian" date and hit the appropriate PF key, a pop-up would display the date in a more user-familiar format? I know it burns me sometimes. I will do an F whatever PRE

Re: Where is the WLM website???

2018-06-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Susan Shumway wrote: >All teams have been working hard to move content and set up URL redirects, >but, as Horst mentioned, the work continues. >I'll pass these comments on to the initiative leads so that they're aware of >the specific problems and can hopefully direct resolutions ASAP. Many tha

Re: Stack Exchange mainframe proposal

2018-06-07 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-06-07 03:50, David Crayford wrote: The good thing about Stack Exchange is that moderators can jump in an close a thread when it starts to drift and delete answers/comments that are inappropriate. Doing that on IBM-MAIN would shrink it by 90%. ;) -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Softwar

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-06-07 09:01, John McKown wrote: I do like what CA does in some of their products which would be nice to have in these facilities. They display the date as either dd/mm/.ddd or mm/dd/.ddd . I think that having a new value for HCFORMAT(...) in the CONSOLnn member would be nice. If

opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
I've already written a utility program which is designed to run as a UNIX command, mainly interactively from a UNIX shell, but it works from TSO OSHELL and in batch via BPXBATCH or Co:Z launcher just fine. So, from a "practical" viewpoint the following is not really necessary. But I am considering

Re: CSSMTP debug No Brackets Allowed

2018-06-07 Thread Mike Stayton
Paul is correct. The DEBUG message indicates that the statement cannot have brackets. Former IBM employee. Mike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with th

Re: Why are highly busy zIIPs worse than highly busy CPs?

2018-06-07 Thread Mike Schwab
Once the delay is long enough, the CP does the work. They cost about 10X the price of zIIPs. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 4:36 AM Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > > Peter Hunkeler wrote: > > >- "You should not utilize one zIIP more than 30%, two zIIPs more than 60%..." > > Who said it? And why 30%? Just cu

Re: CSSMTP debug No Brackets Allowed

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 04:05:16 -0600, Roger Bolan wrote: >There ARE brackets. Brackets are not at consistent code points in all code >pages. In this line >"010:mlCfgProcessConfigStmt:tokenArrayÝ0¨ 5 Ý1¨ , i 7," >there are brackets. View that line using different code pages and you >should see them

Re: Use of dynamic system symbols in JCL

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 12:51:52 +, Allan Staller wrote: >No impact unless you happen to have conflicting symbols. > That shouldn't matter. If CA7 substitutes a symbol, downstream processors will never see it as a symbol. However if CA7 does not perform a substitution it's exposed for SYSSYM sub

Re: Where is the WLM website???

2018-06-07 Thread Susan Shumway
Hi Cheryl (and all), You're spot on when you say it's the entire IBM website. There was a huge initiative to streamline ibm.com by removing pretty much everything except marketing-related content, with last week marking the end of the line for most pages. All teams have been working hard to mo

Re: GDPR and ShopzSeries

2018-06-07 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
If these links are where I believe they are in the ordering process then, I believe the GDPR entries have been added to the same links that have always been there. Now when I was putting the order for z/OS 2.02 together, I used the first link to have my IBM sales/software rep review the order a

Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 8:21 AM Charles Mills wrote: > Yeah, and further, they are called "Julian" dates in the Z community and > that is a misnomer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_day > > I like one thing about them: they are compact. 18158 is the most compact > (generally acceptable) way t

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