Re: Strange S0C4 on z15

2020-08-19 Thread Mike Hochee
Thank you Jim, appreciate the detailed explanation which is understandably similar to Peter Relson's back in March. My intent want not to take this thread in another direction, just thinking about PSF in terms of the poster's original question... On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 19:11:33 +

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
Last ditch effort if you cannot tell. Install the product from scratch in a new Global/Tlib/Dlib and go from there. Sometimes it is easier to rebuild your SMP/e environment from scratch that spend months trying to figure out which one is correct. Then roll out the new zone and replace the

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I've got an itch for one of those trendy hotel jobs. Do they ask for any qualifications more than screwing up SMP? I thought it would be a lot harder. - . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread CM Poncelet
>From memory and besides the FMIDs, run a 'LIST SYSMODS PTFS' (with "SET BDY(GLOBAL)." for each CSI) - then compare the outputs. If either listing shows a PTF received and applied in one CSI, but not in the other, then browse the LMOD(s) to which the PTF was applied in your loadlib: you should

Re: Strange S0C4 on z15

2020-08-19 Thread Jim Mulder
The first machine to implement ESA/370 was the 3090E. This was done via microcode updates (since the 3090E hardware was designed prior to ESA). It was not possible to implement PSF in microcode, so MVS used x'1000' as the data space ORIGIN, Every subsequent machine (starting with the

Re: Strange S0C4 on z15

2020-08-19 Thread Mike Hochee
Some months ago I asked a question regarding the relevance of the ORIGIN parm on a DSPSERV macro. During that time I came across older documentation which referred to low-address protection being in effect when the PSF (Private Space Facility) was not active. My limited understanding is that

Re: Strange S0C4 on z15

2020-08-19 Thread Steve Smith
Seems like the real question is how does it work on a z13? 2048-4095 (x'800-FFF') are *supposed* to be key0 fetch-protected. "Fetch Protection Override" (CR0:38) is to allow everyone to fetch from 0-2047 (x'0-7FF'), while leaving 2048-4095 fetch protection in effect. It is not a new feature,

Re: Strange S0C4 on z15

2020-08-19 Thread Christopher Y. Blaicher
Generally, that would give you an 0C1. In my case it was a simple LOAD instruction. LR1,X'B4C'(0,0) Chris Blaicher Technical Architect Syncsort, Inc. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent:

Re: Strange S0C4 on z15

2020-08-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
So I had an S0C4 one time - turned out the vendor had used an instruction that was not on the CEC (firmware) we were running. So maybe there is an instruction used on the z13 that the 15 does not have? Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: Strange S0C4 on z15

2020-08-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Fetch-protection-override (cr0.38) allowed the OS to put fetch protection on page0 while allowing (legacy) access to 0-2047. Don't know which hardware level allowed exploitation. On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 19:11:33 + "Christopher Y. Blaicher" wrote: :>We have a program that ran fine on a z13

Re: Strange S0C4 on z15

2020-08-19 Thread Christopher Y. Blaicher
zOS V2.2, V2.3 and V2.4, all running on LPARs of a z15. It seems to be a machine issue, not a zOS issue. This is NOT, repeat NOT, code in any Syncsort, now Precisely, product. Chris Blaicher Technical Architect Syncsort, Inc. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Help with SCHEDxx Parmlib vs. IEFSDPPT in Linklib

2020-08-19 Thread Larre Shiller
Hi Lizette - We used to meticulously go through the SCHEDxx defaults and carefully "nullify" any entries for products that we were not using, but it just became an administrative and logistical headache. So, after some amount of research and internal discussion, we finally decided that this

Re: Help with SCHEDxx Parmlib vs. IEFSDPPT in Linklib

2020-08-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
Subject to APF. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Help with SCHEDxx Parmlib vs.

Re: Strange S0C4 on z15

2020-08-19 Thread Steve Beaver
What was your zOS version and what is it now? Sent from my iPhone I promise you I can’t type or Spell on any smartphone > On Aug 19, 2020, at 14:21, Christopher Y. Blaicher > wrote: > > We have a program that ran fine on a z13 that now gets an S0C4 on a z15. > On a z13 we could access

Strange S0C4 on z15

2020-08-19 Thread Christopher Y. Blaicher
We have a program that ran fine on a z13 that now gets an S0C4 on a z15. On a z13 we could access data in the PSA in the 2048 to 4095 range without going into key 0. The specific field is PSASVT. To get to that data now, we have to do a MODESET to key zero. Anyone else find this as a problem?

Re: Help with SCHEDxx Parmlib vs. IEFSDPPT in Linklib

2020-08-19 Thread ITschak Mugzach
PPT can assign authority to program names instead of user-id. Review entries that are assigned bypass security, or bypass data integrity (usually storage keys as well). Have a look at STIG document AAMV0160 from DISA. BTW, our product, IronSphere, monitors and reports on this automatically.

Help with SCHEDxx Parmlib vs. IEFSDPPT in Linklib

2020-08-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
List - I have been researching whether we need to review all of our SCHEDxx for PPT and remove anything that is currently shipped by IBM in Linklib for IEFSDPPT Does anyone have any observations on this? I am currently working on some DB2 upgrades and it was recommended to remove IRLM

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread Steve Beaver
You might see if you have a product named CompareX -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of retired mainframer Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 11:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine which SMP CSI

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, at 17:41, retired mainframer wrote: > If both have global zones, do they contain any FMIDs in common? If > not, the one with the FMID for your PTFs is the one you want. Both might though... if one CSI is an experiment, or something put to one side when a previous install

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread Allan Staller
Compare SMPE Target datasets (e.g. SYS1.LINKLIB) to running datasets. The modules should be a match for the most part. If there are 2 different levels, the will be many more mismatches. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of retired mainframer Sent:

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread retired mainframer
Do both CSIs contain a global zone? Normally, one would contain the global zone and point to the other for the target or distribution zone, or both. If both have global zones, do they contain any FMIDs in common? If not, the one with the FMID for your PTFs is the one you want. By run time

Re: EXTERNAL: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread Edward Finnell
What I'd do is use PDS to find RMID's of load modules. Then find status of those PTFs in CSI. FYI this is super dangerous. Mixed modules have been the ruination of many a sysprogs now tending bar at trendy hotels. In a message dated 8/19/2020 8:19:47 AM Central Standard Time,

Re: GIMUNZIP error

2020-08-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 09:25:08 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: >On 8/18/2020 9:55 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: >>... >> Is this pointing to lack of space in my USS file system? > >Bill, is there any output in SYSPRINT? GIMUNZIP should echo information >there from any utilities it calls or from the

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Or not. If you find the fmid ptf, it is. if not, try the other one. ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM comming son * On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:49 PM Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, at

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Or not. If you find the fmid ptf, it is. if not, try the other one. ITschak *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux and IBM I **| * *|* *Email**: i_mugz...@securiteam.co.il **|* *Mob**:

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, at 14:51, Itschak Mugzach wrote: > or just browse one of the PTFs and see the FMID. Than use the SMPE ISPF > interface option 3.2 (Cross Zone Query) to see if the FMID is installed... Surely that presupposes that the ispf dialog is pointed at the right CSI? -- Jeremy Nicoll

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread Itschak Mugzach
or just browse one of the PTFs and see the FMID. Than use the SMPE ISPF interface option 3.2 (Cross Zone Query) to see if the FMID is installed... ITschak *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS,

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, Another idea in conjunction with Tom's below ... Using the PDS Comand Processor (CBT File 182), you can sort the member list by Link Edit Date. You could also display the HIStory of a given member which should show you the APARs/PTFs APPLYd. Regards, David On 2020-08-19 09:33, Tom

Re: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread Tom Conley
On 8/19/2020 9:12 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: I have a component, DB2 Query Monitor, that I need to apply PTFs to. I have found 2 CSIs. How do I determine which CSI was used for the currently running "Run Time Libraries"? thanks Bill

Re: GIMUNZIP error

2020-08-19 Thread Bill Giannelli
thank you all for your help and information. I was able to get by the error by allocating a larger uss mountpoint. thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: GIMUNZIP error

2020-08-19 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 8/18/2020 9:55 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: I have been trying to unzip a USS file and I keep getting the following: GIM68200E ** PROCESSING FAILED FOR THE /bin/pax UNIX SYSTEM SERVICE COMMAND. GIM47800S ** AN ERROR OCCURRED WHILE GIMUNZIP WAS PROCESSING ARCHIVE Is this pointing to lack of space

Re: EXTERNAL: How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread Usher, Darrold
Check your DDDEFs for your target zones and see what datasets they point to. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Giannelli Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: How to determine which SMP CSI is

How to determine which SMP CSI is used

2020-08-19 Thread Bill Giannelli
I have a component, DB2 Query Monitor, that I need to apply PTFs to. I have found 2 CSIs. How do I determine which CSI was used for the currently running "Run Time Libraries"? thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /