Re: SDSF:DA snapshot

2024-05-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 22 May 2024 06:53:56 +, Rob Scott wrote: > >You can use the SDSF REXX interface to extract information from the DA panel >and then use "address TSO EXECIO" to write the required output to a known >DDname which could specify a GDG. > >You could then either schedule JCL to run this

Re: REXX SDSF

2024-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 May 2024 12:24:14 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >I certainly hope not. The system log is supposed to be a log of things done to >the system. > I'd hardly regard DISPLAY, for example, as "things done to". If there's a security concern, the command should be rejected, not executed and

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 May 2024 00:03:54 +, Farley, Peter wrote: > >However, caveat emptor – if your default TSO profile sets the PROFILE >parameter to your user ID, that “cd pds.library” command will fail because it >does not start with HLQ = your user ID. > IBM allows but discourages TSO prefix

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 May 2024 16:50:13 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >It is not matter of belief. I just performed a test. >FTP GUI from IBM, part of PCOMM. >Note, it is IBM. More: it is part of PCOMM. They know z/OS, etc. >1. I tried to move/copy some directory. >2. I tried to create a directory on host

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 18 May 2024 23:49:20 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote: >Bluezone FTP lets you copy the entire PDS to a directory on your PC and change >from EBCDIC to ASCII. I have been using it for years. > > What code page(s) does it support? How does it deal with characters not in the target character

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 18 May 2024 23:15:26 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >... >Yes, we have some freeware XMIT viewers, we have some homegrown REXX >scripts, etc. > for which desktop target platforms? >But it is continuous reinventing the wheel. >IMHO it is up to IBM to assign few folks for few weeks to

Re: DFSORT newline

2024-05-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 12 May 2024 12:20:09 +, Sri Hari Kolusu wrote: >... >As Mike mentioned, Data on z/OS data is governed by the LRECL. So, there is >no newline character. If you are planning to parse out transferred binary >data, then depending on where the file originated, you can use the

DFSORT newline

2024-05-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
in , I read: . The period symbol matches any one character except the terminal newline character. So how may the programmer match a newline character? I I read in an apparently related publication,

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: JOB card format

2024-05-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 9 May 2024 15:01:28 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >... >Well, obviously in binary it's 0101011101111000 and...ok, not that. BUT I >did multiply it by 60 and got 21,474,720--which is suspiciously close in >digits (if not in scale) to 2**31, 2,147,483,648. Since classic timer units

Re: Restore members in a PDS - how/which tool?

2024-05-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 9 May 2024 10:11:35 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >It actually depends on how the member was deleted - sadly many tools will only >delete the base (generation 0) member and leave the non-zero generations >alone. However if that is the case then you need a tool that can display those

Re: JOB card format

2024-05-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 9 May 2024 17:06:01 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >לא דובים ולא יער > "not my monkeys, not my circus"? >TIME= on the JOB and EXEC is, was and always will be CPU time. It's the TIME= >on the /*JOBPARM that is wall clock time. -- gil

Re: JOB card format

2024-05-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 9 May 2024 09:25:58 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >... >Thanks for the info, Shmuel et al. And yes, Gil, they're still card images, >right? > Well, sort of. Alas, too many programmers and products remain unaware that the 80-column limit was relaxed long ago, although larger valuew

Re: JOB card format

2024-05-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 9 May 2024 10:44:10 -0500, Steve Beaver wrote: >TIME=1440 turns off the timing -- This depends on whether there is an exit >controlling the use of 1440 > I wonder why the designers didn't choose , the largest possible 4-digit value, to mean "forever"? (OTHH, I get cognitive

Re: Restore members in a PDS - how/which tool?

2024-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 9 May 2024 01:52:31 +, Mark Jacobs wrote: >Look at this. > >https://cbttape.org/freepds.htm > . If "all members" were deleted it might be less tedious to restore a backup. CBTTape says it now supports PDSE. Does recovering a PDSE member depend on version support? Is there a

Re: JOB card format

2024-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 May 2024 23:45:02 +, Mark Jacobs wrote: >Google JCL reference manual. You'll find the documentation there. Or just use >this link, https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/SSLTBW_3.1.0/pdf/ieab600_v3r1.pdf > More narrowly:

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

2024-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 May 2024 12:05:26 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >"I have seen this before"--what is "this"? > I believe he's referring to my citation of the classic rant: I copied the wrong UR.

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

2024-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 May 2024 12:05:26 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >"I have seen this before"--what is "this"? > I believe he's referring to my citation of the classic rant: >I'm curious about your assertion that ASCII/EBCDIC

Re: DFSORT Guide feedback?

2024-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 4 May 2024 18:52:19 +, Sri Hari Kolusu wrote: > >Also, in the PDF documentation it is divided as chapters and the web >documentation does not have that, but it is in the same chapter order as the >PDF. So here is the link to DFSORT Application Programming Guide >

Re: DFSORT Guide feedback?

2024-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 4 May 2024 16:30:52 +, Sri Hari Kolusu wrote: >>> I surmise that I must do this on a web page containint the relevant topic. >>> I was unable to find ap page describing Table 109. Can someone help me? >>> Or must I submit meta-feedback, "Unable to find web page"? > >The table 109

DFSORT Guide feedback?

2024-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I wabt to provide feedback on: DFSORT Application Programming Guide SC23-6878-60 Table 109 EBCDIC ... In that publication I read: How to provide feedback to IBM We welcome any feedback that you have, including comments on the clarity, accuracy, or completeness of the information.

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

2024-05-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 1 May 2024 05:38:06 +, Sri Hari Kolusu wrote: > . >>>Likewise, what are the CCSIDs in the ASCII and EBCDIC maps in the appendices >>>of the DFSORT Ref? >And what EBCDIC CCSID(s) is/are used by DFSORT regular expressions? > >1047-US is the code page that DFSORT uses for Regular

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

2024-04-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 1 May 2024 03:23:06 +, Sri Hari Kolusu wrote: >>> On zOS, its EBCDIC file, is there any solution first convert to ASCII then >>> Terse send? > Also: . (Remember to fix the lineends.) What UNTERSE tool is available on

Re: Hex error code interpreter?

2024-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 18:09:50 -0500, Charles Mills wrote: >https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos-basic-skills?topic=messages-bpxmtext-zos-unix-reason-codes > UNIX-centric? As is SYSCALL STRERROR Is the network service LOOKAT current? Otherwise, there's ChicagoSoft. -- gil

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2024-04-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 16:27:51 +0100, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote: >Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain the >usual PDF collection of documentation. > >I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS >Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
>-Original Message- >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 8:56 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > >On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 10:59:47 +1000, Andrew Rowley wrote: >>... >>To me, it is much clearer to be explicit, including the concatenation, e.g. >

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 10:59:47 +1000, Andrew Rowley wrote: >... >To me, it is much clearer to be explicit, including the concatenation, e.g. >"DELETE " || foo >seems much clearer about exactly what is happening/expected, which are >variables and which are (expected to be) constant etc. > That

Re: REXX vs other languages -- EXECIO intuitiveness

2024-04-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:59:21 +, Farley, Peter wrote: > >I have recently done some experiments with Rexx scripts stored in the z/OS >Unix file system encoded in ASCII and they will execute without a problem so >long as the starting script file is properly ... > FSVO "properly". What does

Re: REXX vs other languages -- EXECIO intuitiveness

2024-04-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:59:21 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >Practically speaking however, starting a Rexx script under one of the z/OS >Unix shell programs is pretty much the only way to get it done. Although if >you use the BPXWUNIX() function from a TSO Rexx script to start another Rexx

Re: REXX vs other languages -- EXECIO intuitiveness

2024-04-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:40:33 -0500, Jon Perryman wrote: > >I've never tried it but a shell should not be required to automatically >integrate REXX & UNIX as long as you start REXX using z/OS Unix facilities in >a Unix address space. Technically, shells are not required by Unix but I doubt >that

Re: Rexx and DSFS

2024-04-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:00:18 +0100, Rupert Reynolds wrote: > >My Linux lapdog uses #!/bin/rexx as the first line > This works on both MVS and several desktops: /*bin/mkdir -p .; exec rexx "$0" "$@" # REXX Magic! */ >... (and external functions >must be saved with upper case filenames to

Re: Rexx and DSFS

2024-04-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 06:50:15 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >I ran a test and this is what I found - IT WORKS FINE > >/dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec>dir whoson >t IBM-1047T=on -rwxrwxrwx 1 BPXROOT OMVSGRP11367 Jan 31 15:14 >whoson > Interesting:

Rexx and DSFS

2024-04-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Can a Rexx Rexx exec usefully reside in a DSFS? It would need to be marked as executable. The following doesn't make it clear: Is there better information in the DSFS User's Guide? -- gil

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
symbol which may be a variable name. For performance, Rexx gives high priority to detecting assignments. Alas, them's the rules. What would you report as a bug? > > >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 11:50 AM >

Re: REXX vs other languages -- EXECIO intuitiveness

2024-04-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 14:54:33 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: >Wait, what? Are you saying TSO-REXX has LINEIN, CHAROUT and so on? > Not exactly: >...Although I do think EXECIO is nicely flexible. Still, I find myself >looking up the

Re: REXX vs other languages

2024-04-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 01:52:14 +1000, Robin Vowels wrote:o >... >One would not use as variable such common keywords as mentioned above. > >The real advantage is that one doesn't need to keep in mind >all those uncommonly-used words that might be used as variable names, > somewhat the opposite.

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:19:40 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >A few comments. > > 1. It's best to avoid names that a,e, or are similar to, keywords. > Astonishment factor with such as "LEAVE = 'date'; LEAVE". No Rexx syntax error, but unexpected result. > 2. There is a decades-long argument about

Re: REXX vs other languages -- EXECIO intuitiveness

2024-04-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 14:40:26 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Given that REXX in an OMVS environment supports ANSI stream I/O, why use >EXECIO? > OMVS stream I/O doesn't support CKD /PO/PS data sets. What about DSFS? Does the DSFS User's Guide mention any restrictions with Rexx stream I/O? --

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 23:58:18 -0500, Bruce Hewson wrote: > >I use "cnt" for my loop counters. I stopped using FORTRAN style single >character variable names when I started coding in REXX. > I thought FORTRAN allowed six. (Be careful how you pronounce that!) -- gil

Re: Regular Expressions: DFSORT, ISPF: "$","^"

2024-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 04:03:48 +, Sri Hari Kolusu wrote: >... >I know you are detail-attentive, so I would add it to the next pub refresh, >but it only goes into 3.1 (may be V2R5 but not sure). > >^ >The caret symbol matches the beginning the string. > >$ >The dollar symbol matches the end

Re: REXX vs other languages -- EXECIO intuitiveness

2024-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 23:58:18 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: >I concur about REXX EXECIO I/O is not exactly intuitive. > >REXX, first implemented in CMS used the CMS I/O utilities >Over in TSO they created EXECIO which does not operate in the >same way as does the CMS EXECIO. And it causes me

Re: Regular Expressions: DFSORT, ISPF: "$","^"

2024-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
E command allows you to search for a string matching a basic or extended regular expression. "basic or extended" -- it fails to indicate how the user can indicate whether a basic or extended regular expression is intended. >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 10:

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 19:50:56 +0200, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: >... >There are *no* reserved words in Rexx like in many other languages. (This >alleviates one to have to >learn them by heart. But more importantly, should the language get additional >keywords over time > I disagree. Although

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 20:17:36 +, Robert Prins wrote: >Try the two characters that are pretty much unique to REXX, "!" and "?" >especially for small local loops. > Ugh! But I confess I've done likewise at times. I tried to refresh my memory and observed that the Rexx Ref., SA32-0972-60, is

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 11:08:03 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: >It was while I was coding in REXX that I tried abutting a variable named 'x' >with another string, and couldn't figure out why the program behaved as it >did. Eventually figured out I had inadvertently created a hex constant. >Maybe as

Regular Expressions: DFSORT, ISPF: "$","^"

2024-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
The description of regular expressions for DFSORT: mentions "$" to match the end of a string, but not "^" to match the beginning. The description of regular expressions for ISPF:

Re: grep ascii files...

2024-04-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 11:16:30 -0500, Grant Taylor wrote: >On 4/18/24 11:03 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> someone conversant with such languages has posted here that the spoken >> convention is low-to-high order: "four and twenty blackbirds." > >Would you pleas

Re: grep ascii files...

2024-04-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 15:02:41 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >Re: “When typing Hebrew or Arabic text on a 3270, does tne cursor move >right-to-left?”, I can testify that yes it does. Quite remarkable when you >first see it, but then for numeric fields it moves left to right, just like

Re: grep ascii files...

2024-04-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
? I'm imagining Hebrew in UTF-8. How do regular expessions play with R-to-L text? When typing Hebrew or Arabic text on a 3270, does tne cursor move right-to-left? >-Original Message- >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 8:22 AM > >On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:3

Re: grep ascii files...

2024-04-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:36:15 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >Behold the power of Unix pipelines: > >$ iconv -f ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 myasciifile | grep MATCH > >iconv is not "first converting" the the whole file to EBCDIC since both iconv >and grep run at the same time :-) > OK, smartass. How about

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 07:17:35 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >I guess when the utility was developed JCL was way simpler and test cases >were limited. > >After Gil raised the various gotchas, I wrote myself a PUTPDS program with >a user defined delimiter. Eschewing 2 bytes means I can come up with

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 19:47:38 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: >JES3 is not retarded. > I may have judged hastily from such as that the OUTPUT JCL statement came to JES2 before JES3. You could pay extra to not get the feature. >JES3 has this: >//*DATASET parameters. > >//*ENDDATASET > Those

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 18:06:01 +, Lennie Bradshaw wrote: >Paul Gilmartin said, >>> And no DLM is safe to use with instream XMIT output. << > >True. However, for any given stream there is ahigh likelihood of finding a 2 >char symbols that would work for that stream

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 11:48:02 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: >In a JES2 environment, DLM= can be up to and including 8 >characters (JES3 is limited to 2, not sure of JES3+). > Why is JES3 so retarded? Useful features tend to be added to JES2 earlier than JES3. >In that case, what odds are there of

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:35:00 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: >Hi Gil, >Please see PDSLOAD (CBT File 093). > This appears to be a companion to OFFLOAD: which says: ... If the program detects IEBUPDTE control cards in the member of

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
"./", which is likely in JCL with instream data, IEBUPDTE will improperly treat it as a command, not data. A similar problem arises if a data line begins with "??". And no DLM is safe to use with instream XMIT output. >On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 6:52 PM Paul Gilmartin wro

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 08:34:30 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >I have some REXX code that extracts all members of a PDS and writes it to a >sequential file. Each member extracted is prefixed with the ./ADD card with >the original member name. Handy for moving a PDS to another system. >IEBUPDTE was

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 09:30:15 -0500, wrote: >Which utility do you use for control statement/input: >./ ADD > That question needs a lot of context; perhaps an example. What are you trying to do? >A jcl for that would be nice too. > Many people wish for some editing capability in the JCL

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PASSPORT 3270 emulator (PC) problem w transferring files

2024-04-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:59:26 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: >... >Anyway, Microsoft ftp client doesn't support passive and zscaler only supports >passive. Guess what quit talking? > The dual-socket FTP design, separating control and data, was recherché in its time and now obsoleted by security

Re: Not getting IBM-MAIN Email

2024-04-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 23:08:54 -0400, David Mingee wrote: >Hello All, I magically started getting email from IBM-MAIN on Monday Apr 8. >Thanks to all who offered help. > I have found the following informative: Does LISTSERV periodically test with something such

Re: PASSPORT 3270 emulator (PC) problem w transferring files

2024-04-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:39:11 +, Robert Prins wrote: > >You're probably paid a fair amount of dosh, ... And for ftp, FileZilla is free. > > Provided the client: o Allows FTP o Allows shareware. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 08:42:37 +, גדי בן אבי wrote: > >Today I had to sent a jobs output to IBM to help determine a problem. >The jobs had 11 sysout datasets, and I wanted to send each one individually. > >Does anyone know of a program to do this automagically, before I see how >complicated it

Re: Program to split a jobs output

2024-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 09:15:05 +, Rob Scott wrote: >I believe that Lionel Dyck has a simple SDSF REXX exec that does pretty much >what you require - it is called "SDSFXDD". > >It takes each SYSOUT dataset from a job and saves it as a member of a PDS. > I've done that, but targeting a UNIX

Re: FTP translate table defaults

2024-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 13:32:46 -0400, Phil Smith IIIwrote: >... >I don't have a solid answer other than that file tagging seems to matter, so >chtag is your friend. > . Does the FTP server have such as a SITE CHTAG command? Will FTP automatically tag a file to the value in SBDATACONN? -- gil

Re: [ISPF-L] Edit Copy anomaly ?

2024-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(I'll try to cross-post this.) On 4/4/24 10:49:48, lbd...@gmail.com wrote: Found another way to do it From my home directory via the shell entered: */cp script /dsfs/txt/hlq.pds/script/* And then checked and it copied just fine – kudos to the */dsfs/* team. . A pleasant surprise. Is this

Re: Attributes of an assemler symbol

2024-04-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 13:38:22 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The obvious answer, which, alas, isn't supported, would be the N' attribute. >RFE? > Idea? This belongs on ASSEMBLER-LIST. Does it matter that the values in a symbol can vary between repetitions? E.g.: TABLE DC 256AL1(*-TABLE)

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:26:46 +, Jousma, David wrote: >Ding ding ding…..Gil gets the prize!... > >Coding EBCDIC, and STRU R was the magic potion. > And no one knows why. FTP appears designed to ignore conventions and frustrate programmers.\ Once I coded: //SYSUT1 DD RECFM=U,...

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:41:32 +, rpinion865 wrote: >As you have determined, it seems that MODE B (Block Mode) is the kicker. >Using XMIT or TERSE would eliminate the need for MODE B. But we all know >there is CPU consumption from using those two utilities on both ends. > Might STRU R be

Re: DSFS IBM Idea - Please consider voting

2024-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 13:48:56 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >Please consider voting on my new IBM Idea for /dsfs >https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-4024 >- this is requesting that dsfs have access to input datasets in the spool >along with the currently

Re: FTP SBDATACONN - how to display?

2024-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:39:22 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >>> >> what does [QUOTE [SITE]] STAT tell you? > >The output is long, but it does not contain translation details. >However it shows "ENcoding is set to SBCS". > Feels like an invitation to an Idea. >Note, SITE STAT (SBD   or SITE STAT

Re: FTP SBDATACONN - how to display?

2024-03-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 21:46:37 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >How to display current settings of SBDATACONN? >I mean translation details. >The server is running on z/OS, the client is Windows or Linux (text >mode, no GUI clients). > what does [QUOTE [SITE]] STAT tell you? -- gil

Re: How to unzip my Rocket MAKE 4.3 file

2024-03-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 15:45:28 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: >I *think* pax will explode a zip file. > I have used "jar" to explode a zip file. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 23:24:38 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >CALL ON or SIGNAL ON? > ??? CALL ON to a procedure coded in front of the main loop and drop through without RETURN? That would make things worse. He would have wanted ITERATE ON. > >

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 19:36:12 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The SIGNAL statement unwinds the stack in a very disruptive fashion; its >behavior is unlike GOTO in any language that I am familiar with. Use it for >anything but exception handling at your peril. > >"unwinds" in a very disruptive and

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 12:29:16 -0500, Charles Mills wrote: > >(Why do I care? I am subsequently going to add a relatively small number to >the product and don't want to lose low-order digits.) > Set DIGITS to (FSVO) enough. >I tried using FORMAT but unless I use it in every subsequent

Re: BASE64 Decode / EPOCH Conversion Code Samples

2024-03-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 02:11:50 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >HLASM. > I understand that on Linux HLASM translates ASCII source to EBCDIC on input and assembles that. Has anyone written a HLASM base64 decoder that works on both ASCII and EBCDIC? Conditional assembly? Dual path? Translation on

Re: BASE64 Decode / EPOCH Conversion Code Samples

2024-03-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 19:47:13 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > >Actually not, as the base64 document survives character conversion. > I agree there's no loss of information. >An assembler routine running using EBCDIC will provide the same result (with >EBCDIC) as the routine running using ASCII

Re: BASE64 Decode / EPOCH Conversion Code Samples

2024-03-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 08:46:01 -0600, Joel C. Ewing wrote: >... >If you really want the BASE64 encoding to be in EBCDIC characters,  and >also a conversion of a binary value to be interpreted and displayed in >EBCDIC, I would think it much more useful to keep these as  two >independent routines.

Re: BASE64 Decode / EPOCH Conversion Code Samples

2024-03-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 09:59:02 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: >Base64 has nothing to do with EBCDIC. > ??? >It is a means of converting binary data to commonly printable characters >(typically A-Z a-z 0-9 + /) that can then be shipped in a non-binary manner. > To an assembler program it is almost

Re: TELNET PROFILE, strictly PDS?

2024-03-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 13:29:59 +, roscoe5 wrote: >I could not find definitive doc saying a PDS/E was/wasn’t allowed, but I am >convinced it is. Thanks. > In days of yore there were only PDSs Nowadays there are PDS, PDSE1, PDSE2, and UNIX directories with some similarities and many differences

Re: 35th International Rexx Symposium in Birsbane (Australia) about to start

2024-03-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 20:41:04 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote: >https://www.rexx.org/ >Last Release Aug 2022. > Thanks. But wandering around to the mailing lists at: , the last post to "announce" was Feb. 2005, and "users" has only a couple posts per year.

Re: 35th International Rexx Symposium in Birsbane (Australia) about to start

2024-03-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 09:44:54 +1100, ronyF wrote: > >The link to further symposium information including the schedule can be >found at , just click the box on the upper >... (drifting) That page links to the Regina page at: which

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

2024-02-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 16:46:00 -0600, Jon Perryman wrote: >On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 19:50:32 +, Jim Mulder wrote: > >>STCK, which inserts a processor related value in the low order bits to meet >>the "unique with a partition" requirement. > You (carefully) avoided making any representation about

Re: SDWAEC1

2024-02-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 13:48:18 -0600, Jon Perryman wrote: > >Joseph, you missed Peter's point. Clearly you don't understand this is not >about "seems like". By ignoring several clarification requests, you caused >lots of confusing posts because you forced false speculation that would have >been

Re: Program Alias Names

2024-02-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 19:58:42 +1100, Peter Morrison wrote: > >The MVS (et al) Binder and program objects have been around for over 30 >years. > >It is possible to have aliases for program objects (stored in a PDSE) that >are longer than 8 characters. > >However, I have not found any facilities to

Re: Program Alias Names

2024-02-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 19:58:42 +1100, Peter Morrison wrote: > >Have I missed something or is it not possible to bring into storage longer >than 8-byte aliases from a PDSE? I would love someone to point me to other >facilities that I am not aware of. > Can a JUIX external link reference a long

Re: DD SYMLIST?

2024-02-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 13:45:18 +1000, Peter Vels wrote: >https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=statement-symlist-parameter > I'm looking at Page 263 of SA23-1385-60 z/OS 3.1 MVS JCL Reference with the page heading DD: SYMLIST >On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 at 12:46, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

DD SYMLIST?

2024-02-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
What does the SYMLIST parameter of the JCL DD statement do? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SMP Packaging a PTF module replacement.

2024-02-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 11:32:26 -0600, Joe DeChirico wrote: > >Thanks for all the responses, it appears that there was garbage in included >module, once I removed if from inline and used a ++MOD(VSHMNTSK) >TXLIB(ZPROTOBJ) . the problem went away. > I'm surprised that makes a difference? How did

Re: SMP Packaging a PTF module replacement.

2024-02-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:07:24 +, Chalk, Shelia wrote: >Get rid of the numbers on the right hand side. > Why? Those are almost standard.. >... Then resubmit. What error message are you getting? > Yes. I prefer to rely on DDDEFs rather than DD in the JCL. -- gil

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

2024-02-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 15:39:21 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >Thank you very much Frank. I will try this out on my system. > >Would that such clear examples were available from IBM. > But beware of relying on examples in lieu of documentation. I once went to SR with a problem (I supplied the

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

2024-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 21:54:56 -0600, Charles Mills wrote: >... your program or some other unrelated program -- has recently issued an > STCK and your program must spin, consuming CPU cycles, until a unique STCK > ... > >OTOH, if you do need a monotonic value, then you should redesign and

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

2024-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 09:16:11 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >There is no z/OS UNIX callable service. ... > Remember fondly days of yore when mainframe partisans, such as one I worked with, boasted that all call interfaces, including EXEC PGM= by the initiator were identical? -- gil

Re: zsh for z/OS

2024-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 15:32:07 -0500, Rick Troth wrote: > >Talk to me, Gil. Where'd you get that? Brew? Who's behind that >particular build? (I mean, did they put their names on it? Did they >provide contact info?) > It might be here: . I doubt they do z/OS. Are z/OS ports

Re: zsh for z/OS

2024-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 15:09:57 -0500, Rick Troth wrote: > >I say you've found a BASH bug. >I can IMAGINE how/why BASH is failing on external links, but it doesn't >matter. The point is: IT FAILS and it should not. >Great catch! > Is it possible that zsh properly uses a POSIX function not supported

Re: zsh for z/OS

2024-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 19:31:11 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote: > >If you’re still seeing bash on a Mac that probably means you started using it >before the switch. It’s been a while, but when they switched the default I had >to do something (probably in Terminal) to get it to switch for me. (It used

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

2024-02-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 21:50:07 -0600, Peter Farley wrote: > >There is an entire sub-section in the PoOps in the Control chapter >(SA22-7832-13, pp. 4-51 et al., starting most of the way down the second >column of that page) about the monotonicity guarantees for STCK{E/F}, even on >multiple CPU's.

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

2024-02-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:22:53 -0600, Peter Farley wrote: > >The only HLL-callable function already provided in z/OS that I can find that >provides anything near that resolution is the LE Callable Services function >CEEGMT, but two calls to that service from a COBOL program in a row separated >by

Re: zsh for z/OS

2024-02-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 08:04:44 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >... >Issue the 'echo $0' command. > Also probably important: o What shell does "system()" use? Is it POSIX compliant? o What shell does system startup uxe? Some Linux use dash for performance. What are the benefits of zsh? Are there

Re: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system?

2024-02-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 09:09:04 +, Rob Scott wrote: >We use git on z/OS extensively throughout the company and it is one of those >tools where you end up thinking "how on earth did I function effectively >without it?". > ISPF/LMF? -- gil

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 01:55:26 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The combination of a non-display entry field and blocking paste is devasting >to those with awkward keyboards or coordination issues. > My eyesight is bad enough that I rely heavily on spellcheck, copy/paste and audio I/O. Disability

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