Re: History question - In what year did IBM first release its DF/DSS backup & restore product?

In <1239576652662657.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu>, on 01/02/2016 at 10:14 PM, Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/serviceForConsultants Thanks for the link; it should be useful for wiki editing. Do you

Re: Anyone got any ancient DASD manuals?

In , on 01/03/2016 at 04:31 PM, Mike Ross said: >he needs IBM 9335-A01 SERVICE GUIDE Might one of the mauals in tell him what he needs to know? -- Shmuel

Re: Rexx and member statistics question

In <613235584.5279438.1451514349980.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>, on 12/30/2015 at 10:25 PM, "Ze'ev Atlas" <004b34e7c98a-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Hi AllI have a Rexx program and here is the relevant snippet: >THEMEMBER = THEPDS || "(" || MEMBER || ")"       /*say themember

Re: COBOL Code Gened for MOVE COMP-3 S9(9) to S9(8)

In <1322019919168634.wa.dalesmithcolumbus.rr@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/31/2015 at 10:15 PM, "Dale R. Smith" said: >will sometimes use CLC to compare two Packed fields I hope that's only on tests for equality, not on high/low compares! -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: Rexx and member statistics question

In <8615408156966260.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/31/2015 at 03:20 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >Anyways, I don't believe member stats have any influence in >reading and writing of members in PDS. ISPF keeps the change level of

Re: How to get TSOCMD to recognize my TSO PROFILE MSGID

In , on 12/29/2015 at 05:31 PM, Lindy Mayfield said: >But when I type TSOCMD PROFILE I see NOMSGID. Think batch. >How can I turn on MSGID when using TSOCMD? PROFILE MSGID -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: BPXBATCH "SH ...; su; pax ..." does not do what you think it does (was: rsync anyone?)

In <29b16432403d6c45a9bee5f0302d191779ba2...@vss-exchmb1.sfg.corp.LOCAL>, on 12/29/2015 at 06:24 PM, "Pommier, Rex" said: >The only thing you're missing on Chris' response was the movie >reference. Movie? The book came first. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: How to get TSOCMD to recognize my TSO PROFILE MSGID

In <9031884752514948.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/29/2015 at 01:11 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >But it reverts to its prior setting before the next use of TSOCMD. As it should. >That is his complaint. No. -- Shmuel

Re: rsync anyone?

In <20151229094330.0b444324d33c5248eb75a...@gmx.net>, on 12/29/2015 at 09:43 AM, nitz-ibm said: >One problem may have been that IBMUSER (who owned most of the >files since they were installed under IBMUSER) on the originating >system had a uid of 2 (not 0!). And that was

Re: rsync anyone?

In <5189899169969403.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/28/2015 at 05:22 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >a predominantly ASCII world. I wish! The real world is a morass of different code pages, not always declared in MIME header fields.

Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

In <3361710c8fdd49d9a5ba76a61a993...@su806104.ad.ing.net>, on 12/28/2015 at 06:15 AM, "Windt, W.K.F. van der (Fred)" said: >And on newer machines (with the general-instructions-extension) you >can simply do: > ASI COUNTER,1 >I assume it is faster

Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

In <87bn9fwuo0@garlic.com>, on 12/24/2015 at 10:47 AM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler said: >As a result, a typical 1mbyte 370/165 would only have four regions. We ran more than that, plus TSO, on a 2 MiB machine. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

In , on 12/24/2015 at 02:31 PM, Mike Schwab said: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_7030_Stretch >First computer to implement: Multiprogramming, memory protection, >generalized interrupts, the

Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

In <013c01d13e5a$89687c80$9c397580$@mcn.org>, on 12/24/2015 at 06:51 AM, Charles Mills said: >This is true so much that the z13 processors implement a kind of >"internal multiprogramming" IBM calls it Simultaneous Multi-threading, except in PoOps where it is just

Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

In , on 12/25/2015 at 01:23 AM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said: >This story (and the others) reminds me of an incident that occurred >early in my programming life. The clasic example is Multics. Early on they redesigned the file system,

Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

In <567b4a30.8050...@yahoo.com>, on 12/23/2015 at 08:28 PM, Thomas Kern <0041d919e708-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Perhaps what might be useful would be an assembler program to run >loops of individual instructions and output some timing >information. That would work on a

Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

In , on 12/27/2015 at 03:14 PM, Tony Harminc said: >There's a third model for this very common operation: >LAR15,1 >A R15,COUNTER >STR15,COUNTER If you're that concerned about speed:

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

In <874b151289704e46a874bf2ae6fdd8d1310d6...@kl126r4b.cs.ad.klmcorp.net>, on 12/23/2015 at 03:18 PM, "Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM" said: >I was not asking for all the possibilities on all possible platforms, >I was trying to ensure that it was readable and

Re: Where is SET allowed in JCL?

In <5763936936315627.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/22/2015 at 09:59 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >YTF!? ITYM "WTF?". >Does anyone believe it was specified that way, C2H5OH. I coined the term Broken As Desiged (BAD); ISAGN for

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

In , on 12/22/2015 at 11:59 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said: >Via Email just go UTF-8. The same for Web Pages or just use the >Unicode codepoint () or . Using for µ is appropriate for web pages, but not for text in e-mail. HTML in

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

In <5679d5c0.3090...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 12/22/2015 at 11:59 PM, "R.S." said: >It is kind for recipients to use "lowest common denominator" The least common denominator is ASCII, but as long as you have the right MIME header fields pretty much everybody

Re: PTF error clarification

In , on 12/22/2015 at 10:55 PM, Clark Morris said: >Are there holds that should be bypassed Yes. >such as Action after noting the action And doc hold after reading the documentation There are some that I automatically

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

In , on 12/22/2015 at 11:54 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said: >On a Mac it is Option-m. On a PC there are multiple keyboard layouts. On OS/2 with the US International layout, Right-Alt-M gets µ. Depending on the layout R.S. is using, it

Re: PTF error clarification

In <567aa6b1.8050...@us.ibm.com>, on 12/23/2015 at 08:50 AM, Kurt Quackenbush said: >This is an interesting idea, which I'm curious to hear opinions >on. If doing a mass APPLY (not using the SELECT operand), and >PTFs are stopped because of a PE (ERROR HOLD), either

Re: Where is SET allowed in JCL?

In , on 12/23/2015 at 12:55 PM, "Hardee, Chuck" said: >Make sense? No. That would explain failing on a // SET anywhere in the contatenation, but not failing only after the first

Re: PTF error clarification

In <cajtoo59nb1ma+fdizgegnst41kzpy_ska0kwoe_8a8ax0+z...@mail.gmail.com>, on 12/23/2015 at 04:52 PM, Mike Schwab <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com> said: >On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) ><shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote: >> In >> &l

Re: PTF error clarification

In <29b16432403d6c45a9bee5f0302d191779b9f...@vss-exchmb1.sfg.corp.LOCAL>, on 12/23/2015 at 05:27 PM, "Pommier, Rex" said: >Maybe in way of compromise, SMP/E should set a RC=6 instead of 8 >where maintenance is stopped due to an error hold. :-) How does an error hold

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

In <2623328940257590.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/22/2015 at 03:15 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >First time I see 'usecs' here [1] on IBM-MAIM. I've never seen usec or Ásec[1] on IBM-MAIM. I have, however, seen them on IBM-MAIN.

Re: PTF error clarification

In , on 12/22/2015 at 05:32 PM, Jake Anderson said: >Does that mean, I have to receive the APAR If there is a PTF that resolves the APAR, receive that. If not, and there is an APAR fix, receive

Re: DOS descendant still lives was Re: slight reprieve on the z.

In <87egefr5wr@garlic.com>, on 12/21/2015 at 10:52 AM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler said: >It showed 4341 was faster than 158&3031 Doesn't that depend on whether your benchmark is packed decimal or gloating poin arithmetic? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: DOS descendant still lives was Re: slight reprieve on the z.

In <3555618195553184.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/20/2015 at 07:14 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 20:11:27 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >>>one example explicitly named bein

Re: DOS descendant still lives was Re: slight reprieve on the z.

In <56773a22.1090...@acm.org>, on 12/20/2015 at 05:30 PM, "Joel C. Ewing" said: >but the ComputerWorld article I referenced said that with DOS/VSE >users started to pay for components that used to be free with IBM >DOS/VS, And you believed them because? >one example

Re: DOS descendant still lives was Re: slight reprieve on the z.

In <56771642.3000...@acm.org>, on 12/20/2015 at 02:57 PM, "Joel C. Ewing" said: >No (about the "free", not about the "dead for decades"), DOS/VS was >the last really free base (last version Release 34?). Perhaps >technically DOS/VSE was "free", as there didn't appear to be

Re: DOS descendant still lives was Re: slight reprieve on the z.

In , on 12/18/2015 at 08:31 PM, Clark Morris said: >Are there any current IBM references to DOS/VSE? DOS/VSE is the old free base, and has been dead for decades. There are probably lots of references to the current

Re: Delete part of spool for active job

In <4ee2851a2279b94cb70cd69b174106090149664...@s1flokydce2kx01.dm0001.info53.com>, on 12/18/2015 at 06:41 PM, "Jousma, David" said: >Yea, really don t care what the job numbers is in my case. You don't care if you purge the wrong job? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: S00C Slip trap for any Stc

In <0601332775752188.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/18/2015 at 03:23 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >I know, many IBM-MAIN members post sample syntax, sometimes >omitting crucial info for brevity, but it is up to the actual user >to

Re: S00C Slip trap for any Stc

In <20151218092003.952fe4e53c2ab28a6061e...@gmx.net>, on 12/18/2015 at 09:20 AM, nitz-ibm said: >abend00C always means some problem with coupling services. Shirley other programs get underflow. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: TAR Files:" Extracting" on a IBM Mainframe

In , on 12/16/2015 at 07:31 PM, Leonard Sasso said: >Anyone know of a product (besides Data21's ZIP/390 Product), that >can "extract" a file(s) from a TAR file on a IBM Mainframe - >z/OS 2.1 ? What's

DASD timeline

Does anybody have links to the announcement and EOS dates for IBM CKD DASD that I can cite from a wikilink articles? I'd prefer the actual announcement letters, but anything that wiki considers to be a reliable source will do. I'm interest in at least 2105 ESS 2301 2302 2303 2305 2311 2312

Re: Critique my Binder RCF?

In , on 12/16/2015 at 04:48 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said: >I think the first CSECT in the Load Module (and the Load Module >itself) is automatically Page Aligned. No; the rules are different for load modules. -- Shmuel

Re: TAR Files:" Extracting" on a IBM Mainframe

In <0904944842246174.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/17/2015 at 11:21 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 05:48:00 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >>What's wrong with the tar comm

Re: Delete part of spool for active job

In <6943f159376140438e93a135e823ca3b0168b9b...@nioimbx1.mr.nioi.gov.il>, on 12/17/2015 at 01:13 PM, Hilary Hurwitz said: >is there a way of deleting the lines that have been written to the >spool ? That depends. Does your DD statement specify SEGMENT=foo? SPIN=UNALLOC?

Re: DASD timeline

In <201512171624.tbhgobei018...@d01av02.pok.ibm.com>, on 12/17/2015 at 09:24 AM, Sri h Kolusu said: >Did you check this out? >http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_profile.html Thanks. It has some strange gaps, e.g. 1311 but not 2311, and doesn't

Re: DASD timeline

In <061801d138e9$59eaa3a0$0dbfeae0$@mcn.org>, on 12/17/2015 at 08:38 AM, Charles Mills said: >I wonder what happened to the 2311. I love telling people "when I >started in computers, the basic mainframe hard drive was 6 MB and >roughly the size and configuration of a

Re: TAR Files:" Extracting" on a IBM Mainframe

In <5672ffa8.6010...@well.com>, on 12/17/2015 at 11:32 AM, "Jack J. Woehr" said: >But TCP/IP doesn't "use" Unix, The TCP/IP protocol suite doesn't use any OS, but the implementation of TCP/IP in z/OS certainly does. >Unix uses TCP/IP ITYM that a lot of Unix applications use

Re: Bind Breaks for z13

In

Re: JES2 - originating jcl

In <31191ce0-d3cd-4edc-b151-9847e59db...@aim.com>, on 12/16/2015 at 04:04 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Even Shmuel, somewhat uncharacteristically, replied with more than a >monosyllable. I've been known to send voluminuous replies, when

Re: JES2 - originating jcl

In <2A7B3ACA0EB0614E9CF02EF49021C9508796E254@pl-emsmb11>, on 12/15/2015 at 02:41 PM, "Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)" said: >Hello, is there a JES2 exit that will allow us to place the dataset >and member name of the job that was submitted ? Of course not; it's not

Re: COBOL Code Gened for MOVE COMP-3 S9(9) to S9(8)

In <2082084024112365.wa.david.speakebcbssc@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/13/2015 at 02:53 PM, David Speake said: >So why is IBM generating the ZAP instruction? To force the sign to a standard value? >The only use to this is to abend with S0C7 if the data is garbage.

Re: Mime digests [was: IBM-MAIN Digest [snip]]

In , on 12/11/2015 at 11:57 AM, Tony Harminc said: >You can't have it both ways. Another red herring; google for "identity". >I said "UTF-8 *is* Unicode". No; you said "UTF-8 *is* Unicode, as are UTF-16

Re: UTF-8

In

Re: Mime digests [was: IBM-MAIN Digest [snip]]

In , on 12/10/2015 at 05:17 PM, Tony Harminc said: >Shmuel, you know as well as I do that UTF-32 is not a privileged >representation of Unicode. And you know as well as I do that a representation of foo is

Re: HCD Switch Report

In <camjizqu_dvth_+2w9t1o_xsc2dvjgk+rj+h+g8chthmpqqb...@mail.gmail.com>, on 12/10/2015 at 04:38 PM, Steve Horein <steve.hor...@gmail.com> said: >On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < >shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote: >> In <77197

Re: Inquire intrdr default job class

In <20151210035136.5fe8e33...@panix2.panix.com>, on 12/09/2015 at 10:51 PM, Randy Hudson said: >MBBCCHHR. That's a software format. The issue is the 2321 hardware format. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Mime digests [was: IBM-MAIN Digest [snip]]

In

Re: A List management question

In , on 12/10/2015 at 12:02 AM, J O Skip Robinson said: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You shoudn't need CTE as long as you're

Re: HCD Switch Report

In <7719783559903589.wa.gaur.ravi2004gmail@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/09/2015 at 08:05 PM, Ravi Gaur said: >Thanks all , Finally got it working had to pass parm initially via >variable name Why? > PARAMS = "REPORT,S,,," > ADDRESS ATTCHMVS

Re: Inquire intrdr default job class

In , on 12/09/2015 at 02:22 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said: >You are focusing too much on the question of if the DSN is a >PDS//PDSE or some other format. QNAME SPFEDIT is only used for PDS[E]. SYSDSN is another issue, but there the

Re: Mime digests [was: IBM-MAIN Digest [snip]]

In <7962980455281460.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/08/2015 at 06:53 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >... but try following up to a message by R.S. or Skip Jo with base64 >Unicode. ITYM base64 UTF-8. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: Inquire intrdr default job class

In <1428596541933945.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/08/2015 at 06:49 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >I think an obstacle is not having enough bits in the NOTE/POINT >object to address so many blocks. It's not that there aren't enough

Re: Inquire intrdr default job class

In

Re: Inquire intrdr default job class

In , on 12/08/2015 at 03:21 PM, John McKown said: > I do not really agree that not including the volser in the SYSDSN >enqueue is a "flaw". If it were done, then their could need to be >multiple

Re: length of "executable"

In , on 12/07/2015 at 09:44 AM, Frank Swarbrick said: >Peter mentioned trying BLDL or DESERV. I don't see that BLDL >provides a length result. It's in the user data. >Am I missing something? Yes, IHAPDS. --

Re: Inquire intrdr default job class

In <6022799404953725.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/07/2015 at 08:57 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >(Is MGR now specified to support other than START or REPLY?) MGCR has always supported other than START or REPLY. -- Shmuel

Re: Inquire intrdr default job class

In <5280778212763748.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/07/2015 at 11:46 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >https://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaa300/mgcr.htm I believe that you'll find stuff on the

Re: length of "executable"

In <9856217046987844.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/07/2015 at 11:30 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >REXX: Use ISFSLASH. See Issuing system commands with ISFSLASH. Why use SDSF at all unless you need other SDSF facilities? If

Re: Inquire intrdr default job class

In <8713351764061408.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/07/2015 at 02:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:15:45 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >>>https://www-01.ibm.com/support/k

Re: length of "executable"

In <4504029974950910.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/07/2015 at 01:42 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:57:23 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >>Why use SDSF at all unless you ne

Re: TCPIP Configuration Help

In <3509341013002498.wa.sguptamaintec@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/06/2015 at 10:47 AM, Sonny Gupta said: >Jake, I am unable to find the TCP-L list. Below link gives invalid >data. Not sure if the list is still active: >http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?IBMTCP-L "To

Re: Online manuals for 3880-21, 3880-23, 3990, 2105 et al?

In <8285047530401296.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/04/2015 at 07:40 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >No links, but I see you got a good reply about a bitsavers link. Only one manual there, in two editions. >I still have bookmanager

Re: length of "executable"

In , on 12/04/2015 at 05:54 PM, Frank Swarbrick said: >I am able to use the LOAD macro to get the address, but I also need >to get the length. >From z/OS MVS Programming: Assembler Services Reference, Volume 2

Re: length of "executable"

In , on 12/04/2015 at 07:18 PM, Mike Schwab said: >A PDS load module block is a multiple of 1K. No. >PDSEs are built on linear datasets I doubt that that's relevant. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: length of "executable"

In <201512051447.tb5eldfi004...@d01av05.pok.ibm.com>, on 12/05/2015 at 09:49 AM, Peter Relson said: >You did not explain why you might "need" 36B0 hex. He's loading a table and needs both the address and length in order to process it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Online manuals for 3880-21, 3880-23, 3990, 2105 et al?

In <4973200255008345.wa.robert.harrisonomes.ok@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/04/2015 at 02:27 PM, Robert Harrison said: >http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/EZ2HW125 Thanks; that has a lot of what I need. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: length of "executable"

In , on 12/04/2015 at 08:10 PM, John McKown said: > I don't know what EXTINFO refers to off-hand, but supposedly R1 >upon return contains the length, in double word increments, of the >module

Re: Online manuals for 3880-21, 3880-23, 3990, 2105 et al?

In <5810852063744464.wa.jan.moeyersonsgfi...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/04/2015 at 05:20 AM, "Jantje." said: >is http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/38xx/3880/ >any help? No. that only has the manual for the 3889-1, 2, 3 and 4. I've got the mamuals for

Re: IBM z Systems Development Blog

In <5661ca41.2040...@codemagus.com>, on 12/04/2015 at 05:15 PM, Patrick Hayward said: >Some people have beaten the lottery! They're called ""The House". -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Online manuals for 3880-21, 3880-23, 3990, 2105 et al?

Dooes anybody have links for online manuals for DASD controllers starting with 3880-21 3880-23 3990 2105 -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care, we're

Re: What's a "ton" of JCL? [was:RE: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?]

In <028001d12dea$d995b7c0$8cc12740$@mxg.com>, on 12/03/2015 at 10:51 AM, Barry Merrill said: >I can't recall if they were automatically send You had to order what you wanted. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

In , on 12/01/2015 at 10:57 PM, J O Skip Robinson said: >MVCIN was indeed a useful instruction. I encountered it (IIRC) on a >4381. I assumed that, like typical new instructions, it would

Re: What's a "ton" of JCL? [was:RE: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?]

In , on 12/01/2015 at 10:51 PM, Mike Schwab said: >Or a small flash drive of 64M to 2G. Are they still making those? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Is first page always backed by real storage upon return from STORAGE OBTAIN?

In <7481950488678847.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/02/2015 at 10:02 AM, Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >I've never seen an FQE located within the area containing the free >space. Newby. From IBM System/3S0 Operating System: Programmer's

Re: What's a "ton" of JCL? [was:RE: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?]

In , on 12/02/2015 at 05:33 PM, J O Skip Robinson said: >One urban legend (not necessarily fiction) is an explanation for the >curious layout in EBCDIC coding. UL? It's well documented.

Re: FTP Time Outs from IBM sites

In <1f145e.29fc964b.438f0...@aol.com>, on 12/01/2015 at 08:55 AM, Ed Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Looks like they're a little slow, but up. Ping tests connectivity, but it doesn't test whether a server is actually up. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: More ex-employer "harassment"?

In <565c8a19.70...@gmail.com>, on 11/30/2015 at 05:40 PM, Vince Coen said: >As for law well at least for the UK but I suspect US as well - for >most employment contracts does state that any design / inventions >worked on while working for the 'company' belongs to the company

Re: Know any IBM CEs' in Phoenix - vintage or otherwise

In , on 11/30/2015 at 12:43 PM, William Donzelli said: >Is there any obscure lore about this machine 1. If you restore a 729, don't put your hand under the R/W head. 2. If you restore a 1403, don't

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

In <1a619cdc-a055-40ec-9821-4337587d6...@copper.net>, on 11/29/2015 at 08:17 PM, Stevet said: >This is why you have specialty routines that you load and if I >remember correctly, IDENTIFY. You don't need IDENTIFY unless you want to use system assisted linkage to a name

Re: IBM Mainframe

In , on 11/30/2015 at 10:20 AM, "Cannaerts, Jan" said: >[1] In a non-perfectly set up shop you can work on improving very >basic things that don't require deep understanding of the systems >you're working on.

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

In , on 11/30/2015 at 11:44 PM, J O Skip Robinson said: >When I was a novice sysprog, my shop had an Amdahl. MVS at that >time predated 'system product'. (Way back.) IBM shipped a new

Re: Lrecl

In <1806999179817213.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 11/28/2015 at 08:21 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >A supremely stupid default except, perhaps, in that it supports unit >record devices. A DCB OPEN exit would have supported UR

Re: Lrecl

In , on 11/28/2015 at 02:50 PM, Scott Ford said: >Our STC use several files and I want to verify that the files have >the correct logical record length. The STCs are written LE Cobol. I >would like to

Re: GETDSAB

In , on 11/27/2015 at 12:15 PM, Scott Ford said: >If the ddname in not in the JCL with the DSAPTR be blank or 0 ? Upon output, DSABPTR contains the address of the specified DSAB if the

Re: Any clever way to defeat the C compiler's options precedence?

In <56580ff2.6040...@well.com>, on 11/27/2015 at 01:10 AM, "Jack J. Woehr" said: >I sympathize. Imagine what I've experienced swimming upstream the >other direction into mainframe land. Linking and Accessing and >Detaching minidisks How does that differ from mounting and

Re: Any clever way to defeat the C compiler's options precedence?

In <007d01d12871$06a61c20$13f25460$@mcn.org>, on 11/26/2015 at 09:36 AM, Charles Mills said: >- I am about convinced I can't get there from here. Does my problem >seem that unreasonable? No. Time to submit an RFE. In the meantime, the suggestion to use make offers a viable

Re: Where to set options for SFE line command in TSO ISPF DSLIST?

In , on 11/24/2015 at 07:12 PM, Roger Bolan said: >But I can't seem to find where to change them for the SFE line >command. Short of writing your own line command[1] I don't think that you can do it.

Re: z/OS and hiperspaces

In <874b151289704e46a874bf2ae6fdd8d1310ab...@kl126r4b.cs.ad.klmcorp.net>, on 11/24/2015 at 02:30 PM, "Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM" said: >but I remember reading that expanded storage is now virtualized in >central storage. The whole point of expanded storage was that

Re: POP UP window border colour

In <6887599395074163.wa.gerry.ansteyjpmorgan@listserv.ua.edu>, on 11/24/2015 at 08:50 AM, Gerry Anstey <00da33bf43f1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >How can I get the border to be different colours depending on certain >conditions? all I get is the default blue. Dynamic panel?

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

In <022c01d12620$631e3cb0$295ab610$@mcn.org>, on 11/23/2015 at 10:54 AM, Charles Mills said: >Not disagreeing with YOU at all Shmuel but apparently the customer >*perception* is that ABO-compiled code does not have to be >re-tested significantly. Well, it's not my dog. If

Re: SMPE apply excluding certain FMID's?

In <09921082-8212-41d8-b90b-9e137b560...@aim.com>, on 11/23/2015 at 10:18 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Can those be BYPASSed? Sure: it's not my dog. Is bypassing IFREQ prudent? No way. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: TSO RECEIVE under UNIX Rexx (was: REXX-question)

In <1784726748839781.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 11/23/2015 at 03:51 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >I heartily agree. Mr. Natural sez, >"Use the right tool for the job." The shell is not the right tool. >One suggestion used

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