Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-17 Thread Rob Schramm
I have only 2 cents to add. 1) is there an actual STC proc? Or is it a shell command starting a Unix process? 2) there are a couple of C or Unix environment variables that can be set that would precede SYSTCPD. Rob Schramm On Oct 16, 2013 1:21 PM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: Stop

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-16 Thread David G. Schlecht
:(775)684-4328 | F: (775) 684‐4324 | E:dschle...@admin.nv.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jon Perryman Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 10:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS David

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-16 Thread David G. Schlecht
: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS I agree that he can look thru the documentation link that I provided and figure out what file(s)/data sets are being used to control name resolution from zUnix. Rather than beating the horse of my own opinions.. I would look at these... if it is not apparent how

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
David G. Schlecht wrote: I must have missed where it is defined in the documentation that the SYSTCPD DD in the TCP proc is ignored. Everything I've read says it's used without restriction if it is reached in the search order. I have watched this thread Something is missing... this is

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
Specifying GLOBALTCPIPDATA will use a single common TCPDATA. I'm not familiar with it's use so I can't say whether it comes from TCPIP or from RESOLVER. As for all other cases, the standard search order is used which does not mention SYSTCPD in TCPIP proc. Everyone I know (before implementing

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
Stop thinking RESOLVER since you aren't implementing it. I can't find the name resolution sequence but it was very similar to RESOLVER. It's been several years since I looked at it so I can't give you all the specifics. Here is the information you specifically want to know: 1. If zUNIX

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-11 Thread Rob Schramm
without a SYSTCPD DD. I'm confused why you feel using these requires the resolver. Jon Perryman. From: Rob Schramm rob.schr...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 11:49 PM Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS Because

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-11 Thread Jon Perryman
. From: Rob Schramm rob.schr...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:07 PM Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS Jon, The problem always comes up.. someone has a name resolution problem in TSO or they have one in OMVS. Or worse there is one

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-11 Thread Rob Schramm
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:07 PM Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS Jon, The problem always comes up.. someone has a name resolution problem in TSO or they have one in OMVS. Or worse there is one with SMTP. Each of the environments uses different

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-08 Thread Rob Schramm
Because that may or may not fix the issue. Setting up RESOLVER is not super hard. With the biggest benefit of never coding SYSTCPD in a proc ever again!!! Rob Schramm On Oct 7, 2013 5:24 PM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: Is there a reason you can't update TCPIP.TCPIP.DATA or

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-08 Thread Gibney, Dave
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS Thanks. The problem stems from the issue that SYSTCPD in the TCPPROC is not being used by RESOLVER. In fact, SYSTCPD in TCPPROC is worthless as it is shipped. Seems terribly confusing to have this in the sample proc provided by IBM just to find out

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-08 Thread Jon Perryman
...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 11:49 PM Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS Because that may or may not fix the issue. Setting up RESOLVER is not super hard.  With the biggest benefit of never coding SYSTCPD in a proc ever again!!! Rob Schramm On Oct 7

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-07 Thread David G. Schlecht
on MVS vs OMVS In bc6b7b77ef4d5e4bb95b0559a0d6d5e1051f6b7...@mx3.state.nv.us, on 10/01/2013 at 10:50 AM, David G. Schlecht dschle...@admin.nv.gov said: Forgive me if this is obvious to everyone but me, but I’m seeing a difference in the way name resolution (resolver) works on MVS and OMVS. In OMVS

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-07 Thread Jon Perryman
Is there a reason you can't update TCPIP.TCPIP.DATA or SYS1.TCPPARMS with the change?  Jon Perryman. From: David G. Schlecht dschle...@admin.nv.gov We have a solution, or at least a workaround. We'll continue to add SYSTCPD to every job that needs RESOLVER

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-04 Thread Staller, Allan
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS I forget the details, but when resolver is started without a proc

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In bc6b7b77ef4d5e4bb95b0559a0d6d5e1051f6b7...@mx3.state.nv.us, on 10/01/2013 at 10:50 AM, David G. Schlecht dschle...@admin.nv.gov said: Forgive me if this is obvious to everyone but me, but I$B!G(Bm seeing a difference in the way name resolution (resolver) works on MVS and OMVS. In OMVS, a

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-03 Thread David G. Schlecht
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 7:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS The documented ways that name resolution work and the order of evaluation is in the IP

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-03 Thread Staller, Allan
I forget the details, but when resolver is started without a proc, you get a default. To provide the services you want, It will be necessary to provide a proc and customize. See: IP Config. Guide. Chap. 14 - The Resolver

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-03 Thread Pommier, Rex
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS I forget the details, but when resolver is started without a proc

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-03 Thread Pommier, Rex
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 1:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS Not having much luck with the SR. Might be a communications issue. Can anyone help? We have RESOLVER started in OMVS. There is no MVS proc for starting RESOLVER. We specify SYSTCPD in our

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-03 Thread Anthony Thompson
to. Rationalize them. Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David G. Schlecht Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013 3:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS Not having much luck with the SR

NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-01 Thread David G. Schlecht
Forgive me if this is obvious to everyone but me, but I’m seeing a difference in the way name resolution (resolver) works on MVS and OMVS. In OMVS, a command line ping or dig or nslookup all correctly resolve a domain name. However, issuing the PING or NSLOOKUP command in TSO or PING in batch

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-01 Thread Pommier, Rex
config(s) you're using in the different environments. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David G. Schlecht Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS Forgive

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-01 Thread Pommier, Rex
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David G. Schlecht Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS Forgive me if this is obvious to everyone but me, but I’m seeing a difference in the way name resolution (resolver) works on MVS and OMVS

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-01 Thread Staller, Allan
RSEOLVER is your friend. Ditch all of the local files and use RESOLVER... Check the IP Config Guide for RESOLVER setup HTH, snip Forgive me if this is obvious to everyone but me, but I'm seeing a difference in the way name resolution (resolver) works on MVS and OMVS. In OMVS, a command

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-01 Thread David G. Schlecht
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jon Perryman Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 11:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS z/UNIX and z/OS have a different search order in locating the TCPIP.DATA that is used. In your case, you are maintaining 2 different files. Look at the IP