Re: Question on 3270 Devices

In , on 06/09/2015 at 06:06 PM, zMan said: >You've devolved into babbling. Zman out. Whoosh! The fact that you're humor impaired and understood neither the joke nor the frerenece to pixel count does not make it babbling. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position;

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

You've devolved into babbling. Zman out. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote: > In > , > on 06/07/2015 >at 10:33 PM, zMan said: > > >OK, what I wrote was: > >...could either support four 3279 sessions at once, or one 3279 > >session t

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

In , on 06/07/2015 at 10:33 PM, zMan said: >OK, what I wrote was: >...could either support four 3279 sessions at once, or one 3279 >session that took the whole screen (you could switch modes; in >single-session mode, you'd then cycle through the sessions). >Which is admittedly not 100% clear,

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OK, what I wrote was: ...could either support four 3279 sessions at once, or one 3279 session that took the whole screen (you could switch modes; in single-session mode, you'd then cycle through the sessions). Which is admittedly not 100% clear, but doesn't make sense as "can only display one sess

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

In , on 06/02/2015 at 03:17 PM, zMan said: >Which is what I said it did. No, you alsoid that it *couldn't* display more than one session at a time and didn't mention explicit partitions at all. They say that the memory is the second thing to go. Perhaps you could clarify what you meant by "y

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On 6/3/2015 9:58 AM, Thomas Conley wrote: On 6/3/2015 4:36 AM, Lucas Rosalen wrote: Hey Tom, Read your article. VERY nice I must say! I know this is from 2012, so I guess now with z/OS 2.1 the issue below has been fixed, right? Now each ULOG session has its own ID if I recall it correctly

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On 6/3/2015 8:46 AM, Givens, Dennis W. wrote: Yes by DEFAULT SDSF sets the console id to the userid but you can changed the console ID for each system using the OPTIONS from SDSF main panel. Dennis, This only works if you have a non-shared ISPF profile, which is not a good idea. If you ha

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On 6/3/2015 4:36 AM, Lucas Rosalen wrote: Hey Tom, Read your article. VERY nice I must say! I know this is from 2012, so I guess now with z/OS 2.1 the issue below has been fixed, right? Now each ULOG session has its own ID if I recall it correctly " SDSF also has an issue with multiple logo

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

, 2015 3:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on 3270 Devices Hey Tom, Read your article. VERY nice I must say! I know this is from 2012, so I guess now with z/OS 2.1 the issue below has been fixed, right? Now each ULOG session has its own ID if I recall it correctly "

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

Hey Tom, Read your article. VERY nice I must say! I know this is from 2012, so I guess now with z/OS 2.1 the issue below has been fixed, right? Now each ULOG session has its own ID if I recall it correctly " SDSF also has an issue with multiple logon. A user logged on to SYSA goes into SDSF L

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

Which is what I said it did. What are you on about? On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote: > In > , > on 05/31/2015 >at 01:54 PM, zMan said: > > >Right, but this wasn't IBM, and was color (3279). > > 3279 is an IBM line, and 3rd party v

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In <556c66e1.7090...@rochester.rr.com>, on 06/01/2015 at 10:06 AM, Thomas Conley said: >Good points all, but Gil wants to have multiple ISPF sessions on the >same LPAR. TSO currently doesn't support that natively, ObGungaDin WSA. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT IS

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

In <0354368054759855.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 06/01/2015 at 09:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >As the end user, I care little about the technical details of the >blockage; only that the facility is unavailable. That's fine if you

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

In , on 05/31/2015 at 01:54 PM, zMan said: >Right, but this wasn't IBM, and was color (3279). 3279 is an IBM line, and 3rd party vendors rarely repurpose IBM model numbers. >Clearly a 3290 competitor. Not if it can't display 4 sessions concurrently and don't let an application carve up a 62

Re: Question on 3270 Devices (3290 Orange Screen!)

In , on 05/31/2015 at 01:40 PM, "Tony's Outlook via Mozilla" said: >I loved the 3290, AOL. >Wish I could emulate it on my large monitor. Doesn't vista handle that, plus color? >Always wishing to push a limit I once split my 3290 into 4 screens, I alway ran in 62x80, and let ISPF split it

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 10:02:57 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >​I wish that I knew what the interface is between zOSMF and ISPF. If I did, >I could look at perverting it in such as way as to get an ISPF session >running from a UNIX shell prompt. > I have done this, but only for non-interactive. It inv

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:34:04 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote: > > > An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software design. > A couple decades after an IBM terminal supported m

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:34:04 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote: > An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software design. A couple decades after an IBM terminal supported multiple sessions, ISPF doesn't support a user's having multiple sessions. >> >> IKJ56425I LOGON reject

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Thomas Conley wrote: ​ > John, > > Good points all, but Gil wants to have multiple ISPF sessions on the same > LPAR. TSO currently doesn't support that natively, it's only supported in > z/OSMF. > > I'm surprised that you limit multiple concurrent logons in the sy

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On 6/1/2015 9:45 AM, John McKown wrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2015 19:03:23 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote: An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software design. A couple decades after a

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

John McKown wrote: >​_You_ cannot because, IIRC, you are not a sysprog who can install exits. >Either the IKJEFLD or IKJEFLD1 exit ​can be used to set the "Don't ENQ" bit >in the control switches. Normally, TSO does a ENQ on your RACF id as a >resource name and a queue name of SYSIKJUA. This is wh

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

Thomas Conley wrote: >> How do I get past the >> IKJ56425I LOGON rejected, UserId USER already logged on to system MVS >> ... in order to start an additional TSO session in order to start an >> additional ISPF session? Same or other terminal? >You need to bit...er, raise this issue with T

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sun, 31 May 2015 19:03:23 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote: > >> > >> An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software design. > >> A couple decades after an IBM terminal supported mul

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On 6/1/2015 9:17 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2015 19:03:23 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote: An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software design. A couple decades after an IBM terminal supported multiple sessions, ISPF doesn't support a user's having multiple sessions. I

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On Sun, 31 May 2015 19:03:23 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote: >> >> An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software design. >> A couple decades after an IBM terminal supported multiple sessions, >> ISPF doesn't support a user's having multiple sessions. > >Incorrect. ISPF supports multiple

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On 5/31/2015 11:05 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On 2015-05-30, at 18:36, J O Skip Robinson wrote: Sounds a lot like 3290, which was very much an IBM device. Had a large gas panel display with orange on black. (Netflix anyone?) Configurable in various ways as you describe. . An example of how IB

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Pommier, Rex >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Probably the last time they sold one. :-) >>>> >>>> Rex >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:I

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Some just like to argue. ISPF has had SPLIT since the beginning and if it was on a 3290 device SPLITV. Typically multiple sessions(VTAM) would be a mix of ISPF/CICS/OMEGAMON/BETA42 or RMF. In a message dated 5/31/2015 10:15:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, charl...@mcn.org writes: One co

Re: Question on 3270 Devices (3290 Orange Screen!)

--Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on 3270 Devices "revision date 12/26/2003" ??? Charles -Original Me

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; >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On > >> Behalf Of Charles Mills > >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:44 AM > >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > >> Subject:

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

reen." Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 8:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on 3270 Devices On 2015-05-30, at 18:36, J O Skip Robinson wrote: >

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On 2015-05-30, at 18:36, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > Sounds a lot like 3290, which was very much an IBM device. Had a large gas > panel display with orange on black. (Netflix anyone?) Configurable in various > ways as you describe. > . An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software

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We had a couple of these for operators. It was a box like the INFO windows that a large screen TV. Four DFT sessions. No micro code at controller. Don't remember if it was DATA21 or Barr. In a message dated 5/30/2015 9:57:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, linda.lst...@comcast.net writes: A

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ne. :-) >> >> Rex >> >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Charles Mills >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:44 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: Ques

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95 Mobile > jo.skip.robin...@sce.com > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of zMan > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 5:27 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Question on 3270 Devices > &

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626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 5:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on 3270 Devices OK, this is

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they sold one. :-) > > Rex > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:44 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Question on 3270 Devices > &

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cussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:45 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (OT) Re: Question on 3270 Devices > > On Fri, 22 May 2015 09:56:13 -0500, John McKown wrote: >> >>My sister open

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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (OT) Re: Question on 3270 Devices On Fri, 22 May 2015 09:56:13 -0500, John McKown wrote: >

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

Probably the last time they sold one. :-) Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on 3270 Devices "revision date

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Question on 3270 Devices Does anyone know of any real 3270 devices that are available from IBM or a third party that are still being serviced and/or actively marketed? I'm thinkin

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(OT) Re: Question on 3270 Devices

On Fri, 22 May 2015 09:56:13 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells down by the >seashore. > I miss Mel Blanc. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access ins

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"revision date 12/26/2003" ??? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on 3270 Devices http://www.c

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y 22, 2015 7:16 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Question on 3270 Devices > > Does anyone know of any real 3270 devices that are available from IBM or a > third party that are still being serviced and/or actively marketed? > > I'm thinking that IBM stopped su

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http://www.c-reset.com/terminal.html#IBM On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Steve Thompson wrote: > Does anyone know of any real 3270 devices that are available from IBM or a > third party that are still being serviced and/or actively marketed? > > I'm thinking that IBM stopped support for all 327

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Sorry, make that 2074, not 9074 - getting my numbers messed up Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on 3270

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ou're looking at something like a PRIZM box to convert Ficon to ESCON (to parallel). Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Q

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Thanks for the replies. I doubt that any of those devices are in use with the possible exception of the control room where they have Master Consoles. The rest of us are required to use TN3270 emulation under Windows. Now, think of time-out and auditors. Regards, Steve Thompson -

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http://www.argecy.com/index.php?pfile=3274 Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Question on 3270 Devices Does anyone know of

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

Steve Thompson wrote: >I'm thinking that IBM stopped support for all 3270 devices (including >controllers) somewhere in the '90s. If so, what hardware is *now* available on z/OS side to accept/handle those devices/controllers? >And I believe all the third party competitors have gotten out of t

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How about this? http://www.visara.com/maindocs/DSheet/dsUCT_7_29_2009.pdf -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Question on 3270

Question on 3270 Devices

Does anyone know of any real 3270 devices that are available from IBM or a third party that are still being serviced and/or actively marketed? I'm thinking that IBM stopped support for all 3270 devices (including controllers) somewhere in the '90s. And I believe all the third party competito