Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-02 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 7:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4 Echoing what others have said, upward OS compatibility for compiled and linked applications is a hal

Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Timothy Sipples
Dave Gibney wrote: >Or even steplib the old runtime libraries into the jobs. Not generally a great idea beyond a contingency, which is what I think you meant. At least some of the runtime library updates are vital for stability, integrity, security, and myriad other reasons. I also recall one

Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Attila Fogarasi
Key question is whether all those old Cobol applications are using LE at 1.12 level or are some pre-LE runtime? Chances are the outsourcer will not have the right pre-LE runtime available, so you'd have to port the matching runtime with the application. Being on 1.12 is very unfortunate as LE

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Steve Horein
IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > > Of Steve Horein > > Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 4:02 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4 > > > > Where are you going after that? > > You seem like y

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Best of luck John … as Mark Twain was quoted saying that “Youth is wasted on the young” continues to hold true. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." — Hogstrom -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Gibney, Dave
Or even steplib the old runtime libraries into the jobs. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2022 4:18 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4 &g

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Bill Johnson
he apps that will remain can run on z/OS v2.4. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Steve Horein > Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 4:02 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4 > &

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Doug
/OS v2.4. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Steve Horein > Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 4:02 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4 > > Where are you going aft

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread John McKown
nday, August 1, 2022 4:02 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4 > > Where are you going after that? > You seem like you would be a fun guy to work with. > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 1:22 PM John McKown > wrote: > > > My current em

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread John McKown
ginal Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Steve Horein > Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 4:02 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4 > > Where are you going after that? > You seem like you would be a fu

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Charles Mills
I call a lot of assembler from LE C++, assembler that was written for the most part eons ago, and had zero issues with V2R4. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Charles Mills
Echoing what others have said, upward OS compatibility for compiled and linked applications is a hallmark of MVS and its descendants. I would be stunned if you had a problem with the COBOL apps. Trust but verify: you might want to run a test or two on the new hardware. And it's not the end of

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Usher, Darrold
: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4 Where are you going after that? You seem like you would be a fun guy to work with. On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 1:22 PM John McKown wrote: > My current employer is still running stuff on z/OS 1.12 on a z10BC. > They are shutting it down. But they have mentioned an &q

Re: Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Steve Horein
Where are you going after that? You seem like you would be a fun guy to work with. On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 1:22 PM John McKown wrote: > My current employer is still running stuff on z/OS 1.12 on a z10BC. They > are shutting it down. But they have mentioned an "archive solution" for ??? > apps

Re: [EXTERNAL] Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 1:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4 My current employer is still running stuff on z/OS 1.12 on a z10BC. They are shutting it

Re: [EXTERNAL] Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread Pommier, Rex
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 1:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4 My current employer is still running stuff on z/OS 1.12 on a z10BC. They are shutting it down. But they have mentioned

Running z/OS 1.12 apps on 2.4

2022-08-01 Thread John McKown
My current employer is still running stuff on z/OS 1.12 on a z10BC. They are shutting it down. But they have mentioned an "archive solution" for ??? apps which might not make the "hard" decommission date. Their latest idea is basically outsourcing to an "on demand" service. It is running 2.4 . I