Re: LTO 5 in 3584 tape library and z/OS

2013-08-29 Thread Mike Wood
I found a list of supported device types here 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2g610/D.0?ACTION=MATCHESREQUEST=magnetic+tape+devicesTYPE=EXACTNSHELF=all13be9DT=20050713135418CASE=searchTopic=TOPICsearchText=TEXTsearchIndex=INDEXrank=ScrollTOP=FIRSTHIT#FIRSTHIT

Strictly speaking, that is all that is supported. However, any device that can 
successfully emulate one of those device types is supported. Hence, all the 
latest IBM tape drives emulate 3590-1 and the system can even tell you what 
they are - TS1120 etc.
Virtual tape has to emulate also one of these devices - most are emulating 
3490, and to be correctly reported as a virtual library some OAM support is 
needed to recognise them.

Any non-IBM tape can only be reported by z/OS as an IBM 'equivalent' - whatever 
the manufacturer chose to report to z/OS.
Tape management systems attempt to navigate their way through all this to tell 
you what is really going on out there.

Mike Wood

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Re: LTO 5 in 3584 tape library and z/OS

2013-08-29 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-08-29 11:53, Mike Wood pisze:

I found a list of supported device types here 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2g610/D.0?ACTION=MATCHESREQUEST=magnetic+tape+devicesTYPE=EXACTNSHELF=all13be9DT=20050713135418CASE=searchTopic=TOPICsearchText=TEXTsearchIndex=INDEXrank=ScrollTOP=FIRSTHIT#FIRSTHIT

Strictly speaking, that is all that is supported. However, any device that can 
successfully emulate one of those device types is supported. Hence, all the 
latest IBM tape drives emulate 3590-1 and the system can even tell you what 
they are - TS1120 etc.
Virtual tape has to emulate also one of these devices - most are emulating 
3490, and to be correctly reported as a virtual library some OAM support is 
needed to recognise them.

Any non-IBM tape can only be reported by z/OS as an IBM 'equivalent' - whatever 
the manufacturer chose to report to z/OS.
Tape management systems attempt to navigate their way through all this to tell 
you what is really going on out there.
Strictly speaking it is possible to add non-IBM UIM and then another 
device type definition. IMHO it's not populr, but it used to be used 
just for tape drives.


To repeat/complement Mike's words: IBM stopped creating new HCD/IOCP 
device types at 3590-1 level (created for first MAGSTAR drive). All 
newer tape drives use 3590-1 as a hardware definition. But this is only 
part of the truth: although the HCD definition for 3590-B, 3590-H or 
3592-E06 are exactly the same, there are siginificant differences 
between thos drive types and the differences are *recognized* by various 
software components, like DS QT command or DFHSM. DFHSM will shout if 
you order him to use a set of inconsistent devices , for example unit 
3590-1 when you have various devices f this dev type defined. In that 
case you have to use esoteric name covering only devices of given 
hardware model.


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DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Bill Ashton
Hello friends!
I am trying to restore some files that were backed up with DFDSS some time
ago, and I am having a problem with the results.

If I let DFDSS allocate the file, I get an output file with a Blocksize of
zero, although all the space amounts are fine. I then tried to use OUTDD(),
and if I specify Blksize/Lrecl/Recfm or if I don't, I still get a Blocksize
zero.

If I specify the blocksize, I get this warning (but the file is Blksize 0):
ADR398W (001)-TDUNL(02), DATA SET xxx.xxx.xxx BLOCKSIZE OF 04096 IS
INCORRECT. LARGEST BLOCKSIZE IS 4096.

Does anyone have any idea what could be happening, or how I can override
the DCB that DFDSS wants to use? I no longer have access to the backup job,
so can't see the output.

Here is my input:
RESTORE DATASET(INCLUDE(xxx.xxx.xxx)) INDD(BKP) -
OUTDD(FILE420) BYPASSACS(**) REPLACEU

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Re: DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
Sometimes when I run into strange issues with DFDSS, I will bring the
dataset back  as a new name and then browse the file after it is restored.

If you are getting blksize 0 then maybe the file on backup is empty.

I would try  creating a new file:filename.recv  (I use RECV as a suffix
so I know it is a recovered file.)  and then browse it.

It maybe that your file has no data.  In which case I would just allocate it
rather than trying to restore it.

Lizette


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Subject: DFDSS problem

Hello friends!
I am trying to restore some files that were backed up with DFDSS some time
ago, and I am having a problem with the results.

If I let DFDSS allocate the file, I get an output file with a Blocksize of
zero, although all the space amounts are fine. I then tried to use OUTDD(),
and if I specify Blksize/Lrecl/Recfm or if I don't, I still get a Blocksize
zero.

If I specify the blocksize, I get this warning (but the file is Blksize 0):
ADR398W (001)-TDUNL(02), DATA SET xxx.xxx.xxx BLOCKSIZE OF 04096 IS
INCORRECT. LARGEST BLOCKSIZE IS 4096.

Does anyone have any idea what could be happening, or how I can override the
DCB that DFDSS wants to use? I no longer have access to the backup job, so
can't see the output.

Here is my input:
RESTORE DATASET(INCLUDE(xxx.xxx.xxx)) INDD(BKP) -
OUTDD(FILE420) BYPASSACS(**) REPLACEU

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Re: DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Bill Ashton
Hi Lizette, and thanks for your note. I have done the restore with a new
name with no difference. I have also dumped the backup with IDCAMS, and I
can see the data, which looks like the right format - there is a bunch of
data as I expected.

Unfortunately, the original file is no longer available, which is why I am
trying to get this backup to work. I have to say that I am not the happiest
guy at the moment.

Billy


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

 Sometimes when I run into strange issues with DFDSS, I will bring the
 dataset back  as a new name and then browse the file after it is restored.

 If you are getting blksize 0 then maybe the file on backup is empty.

 I would try  creating a new file:filename.recv  (I use RECV as a suffix
 so I know it is a recovered file.)  and then browse it.

 It maybe that your file has no data.  In which case I would just allocate
 it
 rather than trying to restore it.

 Lizette


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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Bill Ashton
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:43 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: DFDSS problem

 Hello friends!
 I am trying to restore some files that were backed up with DFDSS some time
 ago, and I am having a problem with the results.

 If I let DFDSS allocate the file, I get an output file with a Blocksize of
 zero, although all the space amounts are fine. I then tried to use OUTDD(),
 and if I specify Blksize/Lrecl/Recfm or if I don't, I still get a Blocksize
 zero.

 If I specify the blocksize, I get this warning (but the file is Blksize 0):
 ADR398W (001)-TDUNL(02), DATA SET xxx.xxx.xxx BLOCKSIZE OF 04096 IS
 INCORRECT. LARGEST BLOCKSIZE IS 4096.

 Does anyone have any idea what could be happening, or how I can override
 the
 DCB that DFDSS wants to use? I no longer have access to the backup job, so
 can't see the output.

 Here is my input:
 RESTORE DATASET(INCLUDE(xxx.xxx.xxx)) INDD(BKP) -
 OUTDD(FILE420) BYPASSACS(**) REPLACEU

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CBT tape files directly onto z/OS.

2013-08-29 Thread John McKown
I suppose most of us get things off of the CBTTape.org web site by using a
desktop browser to go to the web site and save as to our PC. Then unzip
the file on our PC. Then ftp upload the XMIT file up to z/OS. I've gotten
tired of this. So I found a way to cheat. In case anyone is curious, this
is how I do it interactively. It requires installing the ported tools
version of curl and Java installed.

1) go to the CBTtape.org site to determine the URL of the CBTtape file you
want. E.g. cbttape.org/ftp/updates/CBT897.zip
2) get to a z/OS UNIX shell and enter the following UNIX commands

cd some-subdirectory
curl -B http://cbttape.org/ftp/updates/CBT987.zip
jar xf CBT987.zip
ls -ltr #to find name of extracted file
cp -B -W seqparms='space=(cyl,(1,1)),recfm=fb,lrecl=80,blksize=3120'
FILE897.XMI
exit

3) do the normal RECEIVE INDATASET(FILE897.XMI) to restore the PDS.

I don't know if the above will be of any use to anybody other than myself.

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Re: DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you could provide a little more detail.

Is the file being restored VSAM, SEQ, PDS, PDSE? 

What will be the file attributes when restored?

When was the file last on DASD?  Was there a backup then?  What was the
results? Any warning messages?


When was the file backed up?  What jobstream.  Did you review the last
backup to see if there were errors for this file?

Do you have DFHSM?  If so, is there an HSM Backup of the file?   HLIST
DSN(filename) BCDS   will let you know

If there is a DFHSM Backup then HRECOV filename  should work

Lizette


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Bill Ashton
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:10 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFDSS problem

Hi Lizette, and thanks for your note. I have done the restore with a new
name with no difference. I have also dumped the backup with IDCAMS, and I
can see the data, which looks like the right format - there is a bunch of
data as I expected.

Unfortunately, the original file is no longer available, which is why I am
trying to get this backup to work. I have to say that I am not the happiest
guy at the moment.

Billy


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Lizette Koehler
stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

 Sometimes when I run into strange issues with DFDSS, I will bring the 
 dataset back  as a new name and then browse the file after it is restored.

 If you are getting blksize 0 then maybe the file on backup is empty.

 I would try  creating a new file:filename.recv  (I use RECV as a
suffix
 so I know it is a recovered file.)  and then browse it.

 It maybe that your file has no data.  In which case I would just 
 allocate it rather than trying to restore it.

 Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Bill Ashton
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:43 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: DFDSS problem

 Hello friends!
 I am trying to restore some files that were backed up with DFDSS some 
 time ago, and I am having a problem with the results.

 If I let DFDSS allocate the file, I get an output file with a 
 Blocksize of zero, although all the space amounts are fine. I then 
 tried to use OUTDD(), and if I specify Blksize/Lrecl/Recfm or if I 
 don't, I still get a Blocksize zero.

 If I specify the blocksize, I get this warning (but the file is Blksize
0):
 ADR398W (001)-TDUNL(02), DATA SET xxx.xxx.xxx BLOCKSIZE OF 04096 IS 
 INCORRECT. LARGEST BLOCKSIZE IS 4096.

 Does anyone have any idea what could be happening, or how I can 
 override the DCB that DFDSS wants to use? I no longer have access to 
 the backup job, so can't see the output.

 Here is my input:
 RESTORE DATASET(INCLUDE(xxx.xxx.xxx)) INDD(BKP) -
 OUTDD(FILE420) BYPASSACS(**) REPLACEU

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Re: DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Bill Ashton wrote:

Here is my input:
RESTORE DATASET(INCLUDE(xxx.xxx.xxx)) INDD(BKP) -
OUTDD(FILE420) BYPASSACS(**) REPLACEU

When running the RESTORE, what is the attributes of the backup? Logical or 
Physical? AFAIK, there is a difference.

Why BYPASSACS(**)?
Why REPLACEU if those datasets are not there at all?

You could just use INCLUDE(**) with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' just to see what all 
were backup in the first place.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Bill Ashton
Sorry about the clutter in the commandsBYPASSACS is there as I was
trying to ignore the groups it was originally using and restore the file to
non-SMS volumes. The REPLACEU was an attempt (unsuccessful, obviously) to
pre-allocate the files and to restore into them (with OUTDD), and then to
just try and restore and replace the pre-allocated files.

I have tried lots of different ways, with no success.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

 Bill Ashton wrote:

 Here is my input:
 RESTORE DATASET(INCLUDE(xxx.xxx.xxx)) INDD(BKP) -
 OUTDD(FILE420) BYPASSACS(**) REPLACEU

 When running the RESTORE, what is the attributes of the backup? Logical or
 Physical? AFAIK, there is a difference.

 Why BYPASSACS(**)?
 Why REPLACEU if those datasets are not there at all?

 You could just use INCLUDE(**) with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' just to see what
 all were backup in the first place.

 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
I cannot guarantee this will work but two things to try.

1) Preallocate the new file with your attributes.  Restore to that file.
DFDSS may honor your file with the blksize you want.

2)  Restore the file even if it gets a BLKSIZE of 0.  Then use IEBGENER to
do the following
//SYSUT1  DD *
   /*   yes a null entry
   //SYSUT2  DD DISP=OLD,DSN=yourfilename,BLKSIZE=4096,LRECL=...

When IEBGENER opens and closes the file, it could use your BLKSIZE in the
JCL to override what was restored.


Lizette


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I'm sorry for leaving all this out...my brain is a bit weary.

The file is a PS file, F/4096, and is one of 3 files in the backup (the
other two have the same results). It was quite a while ago on disk (when it
was backed up), and there is no output to review, but I am assuming the
backup worked fine, since the data in the backup file looks good/ We have no
HSM backups or archives - only this DFDSS backup - to work with.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Lizette Koehler
stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

 If you could provide a little more detail.

 Is the file being restored VSAM, SEQ, PDS, PDSE?

 What will be the file attributes when restored?

 When was the file last on DASD?  Was there a backup then?  What was 
 the results? Any warning messages?


 When was the file backed up?  What jobstream.  Did you review the last 
 backup to see if there were errors for this file?

 Do you have DFHSM?  If so, is there an HSM Backup of the file?   HLIST
 DSN(filename) BCDS   will let you know

 If there is a DFHSM Backup then HRECOV filename  should work

 Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Bill Ashton
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:10 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: DFDSS problem

 Hi Lizette, and thanks for your note. I have done the restore with a 
 new name with no difference. I have also dumped the backup with 
 IDCAMS, and I can see the data, which looks like the right format - 
 there is a bunch of data as I expected.

 Unfortunately, the original file is no longer available, which is why 
 I am trying to get this backup to work. I have to say that I am not 
 the happiest guy at the moment.

 Billy


 On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Lizette Koehler
 stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

  Sometimes when I run into strange issues with DFDSS, I will bring 
  the dataset back  as a new name and then browse the file after it is
 restored.
 
  If you are getting blksize 0 then maybe the file on backup is empty.
 
  I would try  creating a new file:filename.recv  (I use RECV as a
 suffix
  so I know it is a recovered file.)  and then browse it.
 
  It maybe that your file has no data.  In which case I would just 
  allocate it rather than trying to restore it.
 
  Lizette
 
 
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  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Ashton
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:43 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: DFDSS problem
 
  Hello friends!
  I am trying to restore some files that were backed up with DFDSS 
  some time ago, and I am having a problem with the results.
 
  If I let DFDSS allocate the file, I get an output file with a 
  Blocksize of zero, although all the space amounts are fine. I then 
  tried to use OUTDD(), and if I specify Blksize/Lrecl/Recfm or if I 
  don't, I still get a Blocksize zero.
 
  If I specify the blocksize, I get this warning (but the file is 
  Blksize
 0):
  ADR398W (001)-TDUNL(02), DATA SET xxx.xxx.xxx BLOCKSIZE OF 04096 IS 
  INCORRECT. LARGEST BLOCKSIZE IS 4096.
 
  Does anyone have any idea what could be happening, or how I can 
  override the DCB that DFDSS wants to use? I no longer have access to 
  the backup job, so can't see the output.
 
  Here is my input:
  RESTORE DATASET(INCLUDE(xxx.xxx.xxx)) INDD(BKP) -
  OUTDD(FILE420) BYPASSACS(**) REPLACEU
 
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Re: CBT tape files directly onto z/OS.

2013-08-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:10:51 -0500, John McKown wrote:

1) go to the CBTtape.org site to determine the URL of the CBTtape file you
want. E.g. cbttape.org/ftp/updates/CBT897.zip
2) get to a z/OS UNIX shell and enter the following UNIX commands

cd some-subdirectory
curl -B http://cbttape.org/ftp/updates/CBT987.zip

(We need to specify a proxy.  And for some sites, --location)
FTP works as well.  Our proxy is even more Byzantine for FTP.
I did this before we had Ported Tools.

jar xf CBT987.zip
ls -ltr #to find name of extracted file

cp -B -W seqparms='space=(cyl,(1,1)),recfm=fb,lrecl=80,blksize=3120'
FILE897.XMI
exit

3) do the normal RECEIVE INDATASET(FILE897.XMI) to restore the PDS.

Or, BPXWDYN(  'alloc path(...)...' )
RECEIVE INFILE ...

I can do all this in a batch job.  Need to stack the
response to RECEIVE prompt.

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Re: EMC DLM Data Domain and z/OS

2013-08-29 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-08-29 15:15, Lizette Koehler pisze:
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You can respond to my private email :  starsoul at mindspring dot com


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Re: DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
Sorry, my mind was misfiring a neuron.

That should have been DISP=MOD on the SYSUT2 DD statement for Gener.

Sorry about that.

Lizette

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Subject: Re: DFDSS problem

I cannot guarantee this will work but two things to try.

1) Preallocate the new file with your attributes.  Restore to that file.
DFDSS may honor your file with the blksize you want.

2)  Restore the file even if it gets a BLKSIZE of 0.  Then use IEBGENER to
do the following
//SYSUT1  DD *
   /*   yes a null entry
   //SYSUT2  DD DISP=OLD,DSN=yourfilename,BLKSIZE=4096,LRECL=...

When IEBGENER opens and closes the file, it could use your BLKSIZE in the
JCL to override what was restored.


Lizette


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Subject: Re: DFDSS problem

I'm sorry for leaving all this out...my brain is a bit weary.

The file is a PS file, F/4096, and is one of 3 files in the backup (the
other two have the same results). It was quite a while ago on disk (when it
was backed up), and there is no output to review, but I am assuming the
backup worked fine, since the data in the backup file looks good/ We have no
HSM backups or archives - only this DFDSS backup - to work with.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Lizette Koehler
stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

 If you could provide a little more detail.

 Is the file being restored VSAM, SEQ, PDS, PDSE?

 What will be the file attributes when restored?

 When was the file last on DASD?  Was there a backup then?  What was 
 the results? Any warning messages?


 When was the file backed up?  What jobstream.  Did you review the last 
 backup to see if there were errors for this file?

 Do you have DFHSM?  If so, is there an HSM Backup of the file?   HLIST
 DSN(filename) BCDS   will let you know

 If there is a DFHSM Backup then HRECOV filename  should work

 Lizette


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 Subject: Re: DFDSS problem

 Hi Lizette, and thanks for your note. I have done the restore with a 
 new name with no difference. I have also dumped the backup with 
 IDCAMS, and I can see the data, which looks like the right format - 
 there is a bunch of data as I expected.

 Unfortunately, the original file is no longer available, which is why 
 I am trying to get this backup to work. I have to say that I am not 
 the happiest guy at the moment.

 Billy


 On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Lizette Koehler
 stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

  Sometimes when I run into strange issues with DFDSS, I will bring 
  the dataset back  as a new name and then browse the file after it is
 restored.
 
  If you are getting blksize 0 then maybe the file on backup is empty.
 
  I would try  creating a new file:filename.recv  (I use RECV as a
 suffix
  so I know it is a recovered file.)  and then browse it.
 
  It maybe that your file has no data.  In which case I would just 
  allocate it rather than trying to restore it.
 
  Lizette
 
 
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  Subject: DFDSS problem
 
  Hello friends!
  I am trying to restore some files that were backed up with DFDSS 
  some time ago, and I am having a problem with the results.
 
  If I let DFDSS allocate the file, I get an output file with a 
  Blocksize of zero, although all the space amounts are fine. I then 
  tried to use OUTDD(), and if I specify Blksize/Lrecl/Recfm or if I 
  don't, I still get a Blocksize zero.
 
  If I specify the blocksize, I get this warning (but the file is 
  Blksize
 0):
  ADR398W (001)-TDUNL(02), DATA SET xxx.xxx.xxx BLOCKSIZE OF 04096 IS 
  INCORRECT. LARGEST BLOCKSIZE IS 4096.
 
  Does anyone have any idea what could be happening, or how I can 
  override the DCB that DFDSS wants to use? I no longer have access to 
  the backup job, so can't see the output.
 
  Here is my input:
  RESTORE DATASET(INCLUDE(xxx.xxx.xxx)) INDD(BKP) -
  OUTDD(FILE420) BYPASSACS(**) REPLACEU
 
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Re: EMC DLM Data Domain and z/OS

2013-08-29 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

Lizette Koehler wrote:
 You can respond to my private email :  starsoul at mindspring dot com

I cannot.
IP xxx.aa.bbb.ccc is blocked by EarthLink. Go to earthlink.net/block for 
details.

Try using IBM-MAIN web page where you can compose a private reply to Lizette. 
You unmark out the 'To the List' and mark the 'To the Poster'.

HTH!

Groete / Greetings
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Re: DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler wrote:

Sorry, my mind was misfiring a neuron.

Thats a new one! Must remember it, using ALL my last neurons! ;-D

Groete / Greetings
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Re: DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Bill Ashton
Lizette, you are a genius, and I could hug you!
Here is the Gener step - I changed the null sysut1 to avoid the
conflicting DCB attributes message:
//GENERUO2 EXEC  PGM=IEBGENER,REGION=0M
//SYSINDD  DUMMY
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1   DD  DUMMY,LRECL=4096,BLKSIZE=4096,RECFM=F
//SYSUT2   DD  DISP=MOD,DSN=xxx.xxx.xxx,
// LRECL=4096,BLKSIZE=4096,RECFM=F

Thank you so much, and thanks to you too, Elardus, for your input!


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elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

 Lizette Koehler wrote:

 Sorry, my mind was misfiring a neuron.

 Thats a new one! Must remember it, using ALL my last neurons! ;-D

 Groete / Greetings
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Homegrown Healthcheck Maintenance

2013-08-29 Thread Andrew Metcalfe
Having successfully written  tested my first homegrown Healthcheck, I now wish 
to deploy it and was wondering how folks generally maintain these. Is it a step 
too far to install it as an SMP/E usermod? I am thinking of deploying it to 
SAXREXEC (using a name alphabetically after I). However it also has a message 
table associated with it, which I could also maintain with SMP/E, but that 
message table has to be pushed through the HZSMSGEN utilitity to generate 
assembler source, which then needs to be assembled/linked into LINKLIB?

Starting to look messy!

Any thoughts gratefully received.

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Re: DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Richard Peurifoy

On 8/29/2013 8:37 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote:

I cannot guarantee this will work but two things to try.

1) Preallocate the new file with your attributes.  Restore to that file.
DFDSS may honor your file with the blksize you want.

2)  Restore the file even if it gets a BLKSIZE of 0.  Then use IEBGENER to
do the following
 //SYSUT1  DD *
/*   yes a null entry
//SYSUT2  DD DISP=OLD,DSN=yourfilename,BLKSIZE=4096,LRECL=...

When IEBGENER opens and closes the file, it could use your BLKSIZE in the
JCL to override what was restored.


I think this should be:

//SYSUT2  DD DISP=(MOD,KEEP),DSN=yourfilename,BLKSIZE=4096,LRECL=...

With DISP=OLD it will write an EOF at the front of the file.

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Re: DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am happy it worked out.

Have a better day.

Lizette


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Lizette, you are a genius, and I could hug you!
Here is the Gener step - I changed the null sysut1 to avoid the conflicting
DCB attributes message:
//GENERUO2 EXEC  PGM=IEBGENER,REGION=0M
//SYSINDD  DUMMY
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1   DD  DUMMY,LRECL=4096,BLKSIZE=4096,RECFM=F
//SYSUT2   DD  DISP=MOD,DSN=xxx.xxx.xxx,
// LRECL=4096,BLKSIZE=4096,RECFM=F

Thank you so much, and thanks to you too, Elardus, for your input!


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

 Lizette Koehler wrote:

 Sorry, my mind was misfiring a neuron.

 Thats a new one! Must remember it, using ALL my last neurons! ;-D

 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: DFDSS problem

2013-08-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
I know this is obvious, but I would do a backup and restore of the file (new
name) and verify it works the way it should.  You should be able to do a
RESTORE without the BYPASSACS and the file should be correct.

Lizette


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Lizette, you are a genius, and I could hug you!
Here is the Gener step - I changed the null sysut1 to avoid the conflicting
DCB attributes message:
//GENERUO2 EXEC  PGM=IEBGENER,REGION=0M
//SYSINDD  DUMMY
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1   DD  DUMMY,LRECL=4096,BLKSIZE=4096,RECFM=F
//SYSUT2   DD  DISP=MOD,DSN=xxx.xxx.xxx,
// LRECL=4096,BLKSIZE=4096,RECFM=F

Thank you so much, and thanks to you too, Elardus, for your input!


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

 Lizette Koehler wrote:

 Sorry, my mind was misfiring a neuron.

 Thats a new one! Must remember it, using ALL my last neurons! ;-D

 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht

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Share Webinar on DFSMS

2013-08-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
In case you did not see this, Share is sponsoring the following webinar
(free)

An Introduction to DFSMS
Date and Time: Thursday, September 5, 12:00 p.m. ET 
Speaker: Steve Pryor, Senior Software Designer at DTS Software, Inc.
Description: Learn in detail the aspects of SMS constructs, ACM routine
coding and DASD.

DFSMS plays a vital role in the data center, controlling DASD datasets
throughout their life cycle, from initial allocation to final expiration.
The ACS routines and the SMS constructs (data class, storage class,
management class, and storage group) are at the heart of system-managed
storage and an understanding of their function and coding is important for
any z/OS user. This session will provide an introduction to DFSMS, including
a discussion of the most important aspects of each of the SMS constructs,
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Register today.


This should be good for those not as familiar with DFSMS as you would like.

http://www.share.org/p/cm/ld/fid=28


Lizette

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Re: Homegrown Healthcheck Maintenance

2013-08-29 Thread Leonardo Vaz
I gave up on using the message tables and started having my messages all in the 
REXX. Since it is not too critical, I just let the rexes live in the library 
allocated by AXR and changed it there if necessary.

Regards,
Leo

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Subject: Homegrown Healthcheck Maintenance

Having successfully written  tested my first homegrown Healthcheck, I now wish 
to deploy it and was wondering how folks generally maintain these. Is it a step 
too far to install it as an SMP/E usermod? I am thinking of deploying it to 
SAXREXEC (using a name alphabetically after I). However it also has a message 
table associated with it, which I could also maintain with SMP/E, but that 
message table has to be pushed through the HZSMSGEN utilitity to generate 
assembler source, which then needs to be assembled/linked into LINKLIB?

Starting to look messy!

Any thoughts gratefully received.

Andrew Metcalfe

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Re: LTO 5 in 3584 tape library and z/OS

2013-08-29 Thread Guy Eshel
This explains why there's no support for direct I/O for z/OS hosts to LTO, but 
I could never figure out why you can't use them as stacked VTS tapes.

What's the point of using different media, drives, and controllers, in the same 
library, if all I'm doing is virtual? 

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Re: LTO 5 in 3584 tape library and z/OS

2013-08-29 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-08-29 17:20, Guy Eshel pisze:

This explains why there's no support for direct I/O for z/OS hosts to LTO, but 
I could never figure out why you can't use them as stacked VTS tapes.

What's the point of using different media, drives, and controllers, in the same 
library, if all I'm doing is virtual?


You can use LTO as stacked tapes.
It is IBM decision to not use those devices in their solution, but other 
vendors do support any storage.
Luminex, Bustech (*), Interkom, Centricstor and other vendors do (did) 
offer such attachments.


(*) Bustech is now part of EMC and due to EMC decision support only EMC 
disk boxes.


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Re: EMC DLM Data Domain and z/OS

2013-08-29 Thread Mike Schwab
See below.

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Lizette Koehler
stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
 We are beginning to investigate the possibility of having a DLm and Data
 Domain tapeless solution in our shop.  We are just looking

 If anyone in a medium to large shop is using this, and you would like to
 share your observations with me, that would be great.  We have about 1PB of
 tape storage (mostly HSM ML2 data) between my two data centers.
We have 4.7T for 10,000 volumes * 50 volumes ranges. 235TB total, 61%
active volumes.  Make sure you activate TTL (time to live) scratch
tape management (when it reclaims scratch volumes as free space).

 And I would
 like that data to be replicated to both devices.  I will also have long tern
 retention needs for some  of my data.  I need to have my primary tape data
 in the secondary data center for DR.  It would be nice to have my critical
 development data sent to the primary site just in-case the DR site is the
 one that is down.  Mostly my Source Management files.

We duplicate all VTapes from a DLm 960 to DLm 4080s.  I don't think we
have dedup installed.

 EMC is suggestion an DLm8000 family and Data Domain for dedup of the data
 for the mainframe.

 Some questions I might be interested in

 How is the performance when the data has to be rehydrated?

 Is there any significant impact on distances between DD + DLm for DR usage?
 What size transmission pipe will make it happy?  Our Primary and secondary
 sites are about 800 miles apart.

Our sites are about 200 miles apart.  Our fiber falls behind during
our evening batch backup window, but catches back up by 7am.  It is
Async, so it is not waiting for responses.  We are upgrading the
fiber, last link won't be in for another 18 months.


 Are there any concerns or issues that might be good to know up front?  Any
 lessons learned.

We did not do TTL.   We ended up with some file systems with lots of
little volumes, chewed up the scratch tapes, had a lot of free space,
and was attracting all the writes.  Be sure to implement TTL to keep
the file systems balanced.

 Thanks for any input.


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Re: Homegrown Healthcheck Maintenance

2013-08-29 Thread Jousma, David
Well, if there is a requirement to be in LINKLIB, then yes, by all means SMPE 
usermod.  However, if it can be any library linklist accessible, then you have 
choices.  If it were me I would find a way to use SMPE.  

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Subject: Homegrown Healthcheck Maintenance

Having successfully written  tested my first homegrown Healthcheck, I now wish 
to deploy it and was wondering how folks generally maintain these. Is it a step 
too far to install it as an SMP/E usermod? I am thinking of deploying it to 
SAXREXEC (using a name alphabetically after I). However it also has a message 
table associated with it, which I could also maintain with SMP/E, but that 
message table has to be pushed through the HZSMSGEN utilitity to generate 
assembler source, which then needs to be assembled/linked into LINKLIB?

Starting to look messy!

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CPACF

2013-08-29 Thread gsg
Is there any command that can be issued to determine if CPACF is activated 
and/or FC 3863 is installed?

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Re: CPACF

2013-08-29 Thread Kirk Wolf
No that I know of.

Bit 0x40 of Byte 2 of the FLCFACL field of the PSA is documented in POP as
an indicator.

After that, you can use the KMC or KMD instructions to interrogate which
CPACF functions are available.

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 Is there any command that can be issued to determine if CPACF is activated
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UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread R.S.

I just found the following in some IBM same JCL (job, actually):
//SYSUT1 DD UNIT=(SYSDA,SEP=(SORTLIB,SYSLMOD,SYSLIN)),
// SPACE=(1000,(60,20))

Last change date is half of the 2013 (creation date is probably 2005 or so).
As far as I know SEP is syntax checked and ignored for many moons, at 
least since first OS/390, but I vaguely remember somebody told me it was 
obsoleted with advent of MVS.


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Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
OK, what does (did) SEP= do?  The only thing the JCL reference says is that you 
can't use it as a JCL symbol in certain types of jobs.

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I just found the following in some IBM same JCL (job, actually):
//SYSUT1 DD UNIT=(SYSDA,SEP=(SORTLIB,SYSLMOD,SYSLIN)),
// SPACE=(1000,(60,20))

Last change date is half of the 2013 (creation date is probably 2005 or so).
As far as I know SEP is syntax checked and ignored for many moons, at least 
since first OS/390, but I vaguely remember somebody told me it was obsoleted 
with advent of MVS.

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Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-08-29 22:48, Pommier, Rex R. pisze:

OK, what does (did) SEP= do?  The only thing the JCL reference says is that you 
can't use it as a JCL symbol in certain types of jobs.

See ancient (really old!) version of JCL manual. I don't have any here, 
but my failing memory says it was used for unit (device) separation.
The example I presented says: create SYSUT1 dataset, on some disk 
belonging to SYSDA, but avoid using devices already used for the 
following datasets: SORLTIB ,etc


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Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread John McKown
SEP= was supposed to guarantee that the data sets were placed on SEParate
volumes. Likely to enhance concurrent I/O overlap.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Pommier, Rex R.
rex.pomm...@cnasurety.comwrote:

 OK, what does (did) SEP= do?  The only thing the JCL reference says is
 that you can't use it as a JCL symbol in certain types of jobs.

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 Subject: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

 I just found the following in some IBM same JCL (job, actually):
 //SYSUT1 DD UNIT=(SYSDA,SEP=(SORTLIB,SYSLMOD,SYSLIN)),
 // SPACE=(1000,(60,20))

 Last change date is half of the 2013 (creation date is probably 2005 or
 so).
 As far as I know SEP is syntax checked and ignored for many moons, at
 least since first OS/390, but I vaguely remember somebody told me it was
 obsoleted with advent of MVS.

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Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2013-08-29 14:56, John McKown wrote:
 SEP= was supposed to guarantee that the data sets were placed on SEParate
 volumes. Likely to enhance concurrent I/O overlap.
  
This was probably most effective if yours was the only job
running in the system at that instant.

 On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Pommier, Rex R. wrote:
 
 OK, what does (did) SEP= do?  The only thing the JCL reference says is
 that you can't use it as a JCL symbol in certain types of jobs.
 
Probably jobs started by operator commands, which supported
an abbreviated syntax for overrides.

So they removed the function but retained the restriction.  A
triumph of compatibility over common sense.

 //SYSUT1 DD UNIT=(SYSDA,SEP=(SORTLIB,SYSLMOD,SYSLIN)),

-- gil

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Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I started as a JCL jockey in Prod Support, under MVS.
It was still supported, then (pre-XA).
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SEP= was supposed to guarantee that the data sets were placed on SEParate
volumes. Likely to enhance concurrent I/O overlap.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Pommier, Rex R.
rex.pomm...@cnasurety.comwrote:

 OK, what does (did) SEP= do?  The only thing the JCL reference says is
 that you can't use it as a JCL symbol in certain types of jobs.

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 Subject: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

 I just found the following in some IBM same JCL (job, actually):
 //SYSUT1 DD UNIT=(SYSDA,SEP=(SORTLIB,SYSLMOD,SYSLIN)),
 // SPACE=(1000,(60,20))

 Last change date is half of the 2013 (creation date is probably 2005 or
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 As far as I know SEP is syntax checked and ignored for many moons, at
 least since first OS/390, but I vaguely remember somebody told me it was
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Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Back in Ye Olde days, it allowed for specifying that a different device
address be used thus improving I/O performance.

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:48:30 + Pommier, Rex R.
rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com wrote:

:OK, what does (did) SEP= do?  The only thing the JCL reference says is that 
you can't use it as a JCL symbol in certain types of jobs.
:
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:
:I just found the following in some IBM same JCL (job, actually):
://SYSUT1 DD UNIT=(SYSDA,SEP=(SORTLIB,SYSLMOD,SYSLIN)),
:// SPACE=(1000,(60,20))
:
:Last change date is half of the 2013 (creation date is probably 2005 or so).
:As far as I know SEP is syntax checked and ignored for many moons, at least 
since first OS/390, but I vaguely remember somebody told me it was obsoleted 
with advent of MVS.
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Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread DanD
It was also useful when creating a backup so that the backup was not on the 
same device as the original.


I noticed this...

JCL example
z/OS V1R12.0 Metal C Programming Guide and Reference
SA23-2225-03
...
//SYSUT1   DD  UNIT=(SYSDA,SEP=SYSLIB),SPACE=(CYL,(10,5)),DSN=SYSUT1

Dan

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Back in Ye Olde days, it allowed for specifying that a different device
address be used thus improving I/O performance.

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:48:30 + Pommier, Rex R.
Rex.Pommier wrote:

:OK, what does (did) SEP= do?  The only thing the JCL reference says is 
that you can't use it as a JCL symbol in certain types of jobs.

:
:-Original Message-
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:I just found the following in some IBM same JCL (job, actually):
://SYSUT1 DD UNIT=(SYSDA,SEP=(SORTLIB,SYSLMOD,SYSLIN)),
:// SPACE=(1000,(60,20))
:
:Last change date is half of the 2013 (creation date is probably 2005 or 
so).
:As far as I know SEP is syntax checked and ignored for many moons, at 
least since first OS/390, but I vaguely remember somebody told me it was 
obsoleted with advent of MVS.


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Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread John Gilmore
The z/OS V1R9 MVS JCL Reference--The 12th edition of 2007 September
and the oldest one I have on my workstation--describes AFF, SEP,
SPLIT, and SUBALLOC as obsolete subparameters on page 5-18.

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Re: CPACF

2013-08-29 Thread John P. Baker
Yes.

Bit 17 of the result area of the STFLE (Store Facility List Extended) 
instruction is set to one (1) when the Message Security Assist (i.e., CPACF) is 
available.

In addition, bit 76 is set to one (1) when the Message Security Assist 
Extension 3 is available, and bit 77 is set to one (1) when the Message 
Security Assist Extension 4 is available.

You can then use the query function of each of the various CPACF-supplied 
instructions to determine the availability of more granular capabilities.

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Re: CPACF

2013-08-29 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi,

Maybe not a command, but I noticed these messages when I start my TN3270 
server w/SSL support.  This is from a z9BC.  I *think* this indicates CPACF is 
installed and active.

System SSL: SHA-1 crypto assist is available
System SSL: SHA-224 crypto assist is available  
System SSL: SHA-256 crypto assist is available  
System SSL: SHA-384 crypto assist is not available  
System SSL: SHA-512 crypto assist is not available  
System SSL: DES crypto assist is available  
System SSL: DES3 crypto assist is available 
System SSL: AES 128-bit crypto assist is available  
System SSL: AES 256-bit crypto assist is not available  
System SSL: ICSF services are not available 

 HTH,
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Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread Clark Morris
On 29 Aug 2013 14:33:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

The z/OS V1R9 MVS JCL Reference--The 12th edition of 2007 September
and the oldest one I have on my workstation--describes AFF, SEP,
SPLIT, and SUBALLOC as obsolete subparameters on page 5-18.

I can see SEP, SPLIT and SUBALLOC being obsolete but AFF still should
be useful in conserving device use for tape drives.  For example
SORTIN and SORTOUT many times were allocated that way.

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Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
3ebf9c9d119fd847b3a096c515a018f6949e4...@surfsdvmp35.cnasurety.net,
on 08/29/2013
   at 08:48 PM, Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com said:

OK, what does (did) SEP= do? 

Separated allocations on different devices; think of it as the
opposite of AFF.

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Re: CPACF

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Bishop
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:45:08 -0500, gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com wrote:

Sorry about that.  I was told that you can check to see if CPACF is active 
fromt he HMC console.  I was asking where to find it.  does anyone know of any 
other way?

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If you are in Single Object Operations for the CPC, and display its details, on 
the Instance Information page at the bottom right is the text:

CP Assist for Crypto functions: Installed 
 
(this is from a z196 that has FC3863 activated).

cheers
Peter

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Re: SMS Notices from Jes2

2013-08-29 Thread Brian Westerman
If you are interested in a vendor product, we also have a product (SyzMPF/z) 
which will notify via eMail or SMS text when a job ENDs/ABENDs/JCL Error, etc. 
as well as hundreds of other console message traffic related controls and 
actions.  It's exremely inexpensive and provides automation support beyond just 
sending email and text.

You can get information at www.SyzygyInc.com/SyzMPFz

Brian

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Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 20:48 + on 08/29/2013, Pommier, Rex R. wrote about Re: 
UNIT=SEP still alive (?):


OK, what does (did) SEP= do?  The only thing the JCL reference says 
is that you can't use it as a JCL symbol in certain types of jobs.


Others have also answered. To expand on what they said, UNIT=SYSDA 
says to allocate the dataset on one of the volumes that are addressed 
by SYSDA. It will select all volumes which has this address and then 
decide on one of them using other criteria (such as if there is 
enough free space on the volume to meet the requested SPACE parm). 
SEP says to remove the volumes which have been allocated to SORTLIB, 
SYSLMOD, and SYSLIN from the list of SYSDA volumes and only select 
from the remaining volumes - ie: Treat those volumes as if they were 
not part of SYSDA.




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I just found the following in some IBM same JCL (job, actually):
//SYSUT1 DD UNIT=(SYSDA,SEP=(SORTLIB,SYSLMOD,SYSLIN)),
// SPACE=(1000,(60,20))

Last change date is half of the 2013 (creation date is probably 2005 or so).
As far as I know SEP is syntax checked and ignored for many moons, 
at least since first OS/390, but I vaguely remember somebody told me 
it was obsoleted with advent of MVS.


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Re: CPACF

2013-08-29 Thread Roger Lowe
Have a look at the CSFCCVT control block - described in SYS1.MODGEN.

Hope that helps...

Roger

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Re: CPACF

2013-08-29 Thread Roger Lowe
..forgot to addlook at File 771 on the CBT Tape (www.cbttape.org) and the 
ICSF Monitor.

Roger

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Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On 29 August 2013 16:18, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:
 I just found the following in some IBM same JCL (job, actually):
 //SYSUT1 DD UNIT=(SYSDA,SEP=(SORTLIB,SYSLMOD,SYSLIN)),
 // SPACE=(1000,(60,20))

 Last change date is half of the 2013 (creation date is probably 2005 or so).
 As far as I know SEP is syntax checked and ignored for many moons, at least
 since first OS/390, but I vaguely remember somebody told me it was obsoleted
 with advent of MVS.

I slightly more than vaguely remember it the same way. SEP=
disappeared (was ignored) with MVS, i.e. OS/VS2 2.0, because it
limited the then-new SRM's ability to swap a job in or out to control
the I/O workload on a channel. There is an element of conflict between
the application programmer/job owner's wish to have the best possible
performance for an individual job by spreading its I/O around, vs the
SRM's wish to control overall system performance as specified by the
performance group definitions. Swapping out or in a job with
allocations all over the place would not predictably change the load
on an over or under busy channel.

And on that note, I even more vaguely remember that SEP= (in pre-MVS
OSs) was done at the channel level rather then the device, but that's
so vague as to be unreliable.

Since the source code for MVT and MVS 3.8 are both available online,
anyone sufficiently interested can read the code and report back.

On the matter of a recent piece of JCL containing these obsolete
keywords, well that is all too common. There is a widespread and hard
to break culture consisting of some blend of if it ain't broke, don't
fix it, I'll just copy this JCL that works and change it minimally
to suit my needs, and we're not really sure we need this anymore,
but I don't want to be the one to remove it and find it breaks
something important, so I'd better leave it in.

I removed SEP= from one of our product manuals and around 2000, and
when we acquired another product almost ten years later, I found its
install manual to have SEP= too. I may yet have missed some...

Tony H.

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