Re: System Boost Question

2020-11-29 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Yes, You can update the CICS SVC without an IPL. There is a program supplied with CICS to do it. Look for DFHCSVCJ in the CICS samplib. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 7:36 PM To:

Re: Preparing for a short z/OS contract

2020-11-29 Thread Timothy Sipples
Rupert Reynolds wrote: >Thinking further, I now remember that their only debugger was TSO TEST! I >wrote a mixture of Rexx and CLIST commands to extend it a bit (show regs >and disassemble the next instruction, every breakpoint). > >Is there anything more /modern/ that's given away with z/OS?

RMM tape movement to vault

2020-11-29 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello I apologise for the dummy question as I am new to Tape DFRMM We have a job which searches the RMM catalog for the tape to be in drive and vault. Some questions popped out in my mind. How does RMM decides that a particular tape has to be moved to VAULT and how does it know that tape must

Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread Jousma, David
My experience is that it has always been that way. I've always had to fill the first line completely, and continue on next line. Takes some creative cut/paste. What you suggest would be a nice improvement, but IMO nothing is broke. From: IBM Mainframe

Re: System Boost Question

2020-11-29 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
We also restart CICS every night (at least some regions). But that happens in the middle of the night (at 3 am, I think). This was a special case where I wanted to finish as soon as possible. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent:

Re: Preparing for a short z/OS contract

2020-11-29 Thread Rupert Reynolds
Thanks for the reassurance. Thinking further, I now remember that their only debugger was TSO TEST! I wrote a mixture of Rexx and CLIST commands to extend it a bit (show regs and disassemble the next instruction, every breakpoint). Is there anything more /modern/ that's given away with z/OS?

Re: Is there a JES2 command to submit a job?

2020-11-29 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 11/18/2020 3:58 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Thanks. This will work. Kind of convoluted -- a $T A command to issue a $VS command to issue an S command to start an STC that submits a job, but hey, it's mainframe. If it was easy we wouldn't get the big bucks. Idle musing: why doesn't JES2 have a

Re: Preparing for a short z/OS contract

2020-11-29 Thread Steve Thompson
As others have said, MVS is MVS. However, z/OS has a lot more of posix (Unixy) stuff. TSO TEST is all that comes free with the system. ISPF is still ISPF. REXX may have a few more commands/functions. If they got the debugger (forgot its name) that may help you. I use IPCS and if they have

Re: EDGRRPTR missing after zOS 1.13

2020-11-29 Thread Mike Schwab
https://www.ibm.com/cloud/blog/retirement-of-ibm-graph?mhsrc=ibmsearch_a=edgrrptr IBM Graph Retired, Janus Graph is replacement product. On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 12:03 AM Jake Anderson wrote: > > Hello > > Is there an equivalent of EDGRRPTR after zOS 1.13 ? As I don't find this > dataset in

Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
2) might work, but it doesn't explain the blank problem. 1) does not work because the two lines of SDSF command are not actually a single buffer the way TSO option 6 is. At the end of the line, the keyboard locks. Likewise, deleting blanks at the end of the line does pull the second line

Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 12:31:42 -0500, David Spiegel wrote: > >There are 2 things you can do: >1) Keep typing and let the text wrap >2) Strike Enter after "OPERTUNE," and continue the command by Replying >to the next WTOR. > 3) Place the cursor at the first of the four blanks and press "Erase EOF".

Re: Preparing for a short z/OS contract

2020-11-29 Thread Charles Mills
Some people use SSH and similar tools but ISPF works just like it always did; perhaps a tiny bit better. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joe Monk Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 9:38 AM To:

Re: System Boost Question

2020-11-29 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 28 Nov 2020 11:02:02 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main gad...@malam.com (Gadi Ben-Avi) wrote: >We are to take delivery of a z15-t02. >I have a question about system boost. >A few months ago, as part of upgrading CICS, we shut down all of our CICS >regions in order to upgrade the CICS

Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Skip, That's what I figured (i.e. Copy and Paste from Windows/Linux). The blanks are a result of taking your text cross-platform. One last thing ... Why do you bring up the panle with "/+"? ("/" alone is good enough) Regards, David On 2020-11-29 14:03, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: I'll have to

Re: System Boost Question

2020-11-29 Thread Peter Relson
Could we use SYSTEM boost to make the process of shutting down the CICS region and restarting them? That would not be an appropriate use of the shutdown boost. Shutdown boost is for shutting down the entire system. Note that IBM also has a separate feature called "System Recovery Boost

Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread Charles Mills
Hit PF5 IIRC on the /+ panel and you will get a field that wraps. Yes, insert and delete characters still will not work. But the command will. Any blanks in the fields "count." You will need ...OPERTUNE,DB04 MSTR (Watch out if IBMMAIN combines the above two lines.) Charles -Original

Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
Skip Not the answer you asked for, but I typically put my Slip traps in SYS1.**.PARMLIB IEASLPxx and then just do a SET SLIP=xx I can put blanks and comments in the member so I know what I was last doing. A Dynamic slip makes one guess in the future what it was for. Just my personal opinion

Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Skip, Here is what my panel looks like:|  EsssN  e   Edit  Options Help e  e e  e  

Preparing for a short z/OS contract

2020-11-29 Thread Rupert Reynolds
A client from my contracting days has contacted me out of the blue. Perhaps only a week, but work is work, right? :-) Does anyone have advice they can offer on what to expect these days? When I last worked for them, it was ESA/390, ISPF :-) Does a lot of PL/1, Assembler and Rexx programming

Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Skip, There are 2 things you can do: 1) Keep typing and let the text wrap 2) Strike Enter after "OPERTUNE," and continue the command by Replying to the next WTOR. Regards, David On 2020-11-29 12:23, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: We were instructed by a vendor to set a two line SLIP trap for a

Re: Preparing for a short z/OS contract

2020-11-29 Thread Joe Monk
you will not have any problems. MVS is MVS. Joe On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 11:31 AM Rupert Reynolds wrote: > A client from my contracting days has contacted me out of the blue. Perhaps > only a week, but work is work, right? :-) > > Does anyone have advice they can offer on what to expect these

Re: EDGRRPTR missing after zOS 1.13

2020-11-29 Thread Tom Conley
On 11/29/2020 1:03 AM, Jake Anderson wrote: Hello Is there an equivalent of EDGRRPTR after zOS 1.13 ? As I don't find this dataset in SYS1.SEDGEXE1. Any suggestions would be appreciated Jake Jake, From my dim memory, EDGRRPTR created an extended extract, before we added that capability

Re: System Boost Question

2020-11-29 Thread Martin Packer
I would also point out quite a few customers restart CICS on a daily (sometimes weekly) basis. They IPL much less frequently (likewise structure recovery etc). I should imagine therefore there would have to be a lot of thinking around terms and conditions for something such as restarting CICS.

Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
As an aside, David Spiegels option 2), if it works, depends on the quirky SLIP command, since very few commands continue reprompting until a logical end. EOF does not work because the two line buffers appear not be connected. Inserting blanks up front might work. Kind of a pain. But thanks!

Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
We were instructed by a vendor to set a two line SLIP trap for a problem affecting their product. My colleague used the SDSF command facility (/+) to enter the command. Working together, we could not get it to work because trailing blanks on the first line were passed to MVS, breaking the

Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread David Spiegel
Which version of z/OS are you running? Do you have any ISPF or SDSF Usermods? On 2020-11-29 12:52, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: 2) might work, but it doesn't explain the blank problem. 1) does not work because the two lines of SDSF command are not actually a single buffer the way TSO option 6 is.

Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:59:14 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >... >EOF does not work because the two line buffers appear not be connected. > If it doesn't work, it's cause for SR. inserting characters you didn't type, whether "" or "CRAP" is a data integrity violation. If it's WAD, it

Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command

2020-11-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I'll have to give this a try. What I did not mention in the original post was that we 'edited' this complicated command in a text file and then copy/pasted it into the command screen. Also did not reveal that the way we got it to work was to enter it as a subcommand to TSO OPER. That was quite