I tend to skip over the subject of emails. I don't know why. I do the
same when reading section headings in manuals - some kind of psycho
thing I guess. So for others who might have the same problem, I
sometimes put the same text as the subject in the first part of the
email body.
On
I found that not only is the subject often ignored, I can't ask for more
than one piece of information in an email. I will only get the answer to
the first question. And if I respond to a question with additional
information in anticipation of the next question, I will always get
asked what I
YES!!! More than one question in an email almost always gets me an answer only
to the first one. I would uncharitably assume that my victim doesn't actually
~read~ my emails, if I hadn't caught myself doing the same thing. Thankfully I
do it rarely, but I do it.
(Admittedly I tend to pack a
Don't forget about Quiesced volumes. They aren't used except when
datasets CAN"T be allocated on all the ENABLED volumes. (Large space
amounts). Some people then check volumes and rotate which ones are
Quiesced.
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 2:34 PM Dave Jousma
NaviQuest works. However it is really just batch ISPF, cumbersome and cpu
hoggish
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I already apologized,literally,
yeah, sorry Ed, that's your subject of the post :(
thanks Bob !
nevermind :
working 2 PC's at home back and forth, I neglected to comprehend fully
the need.
again - SORRY
Carmen
On 11/4/2021 10:07 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 11/4/2021 8:01 AM, Richards, Robert
After the original message, the subject line may have very little to
do with the content of that message.
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 8:54 PM Tom Brennan wrote:
>
> I tend to skip over the subject of emails. I don't know why. I do the
> same when reading section headings in manuals - some kind of
Why did the system go into a wait state?
Was a standalone dump taken?
When we process a DIAGxx that specifies MVS(LAST), we copy
CVTSYSAD into DgnbAIMvsUCBAddr (in SYS1.MODGEN(IGVDGNB)).
When we try to AutoIPL that MVS, we get the device number from
UCBCHAN in the UCB pointed to by
Is that anything like the vendor asking for a dump or a trace when you've
already uploaded both?
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This is really appalling! I hope it's not true, but I have noticed that the
lack of books related to z/OS has been steadily declining, and I find it very
distressing. I've always found the Redbooks to be the best documentation ever
provided by IBM. Unfortunately, most of the Redbooks are now
Nope. DIAGxx has AUTOIPL MVS(LAST). PPRC isn't being used here. AUTOIPL works
almost all the time. It failed today with that message. Was just wondering why.
Mark Jacobs
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On covering multiple things in a mail, I often find that listing numbered
things help.
Even if something is missed, you can just ask, what about #2, for example.
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wrote:
> I found that not only is
The obvious reason is DIAGxx has AUTOIPL statement with that address.
Maybe changed by SET command? Otherwise all I can think of is PPRC maybe
can do this, but unlikely.
On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 11:43 AM Mark Jacobs <
0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> One of out systems
One of out systems went into a wait state today and autoipl was attempted. It
failed with this message (from the HMC Hardware Events log)
A load failure occurred on logical partition because a device address
control block (DACB) was not found. Unit address = 5810.
That unit address is not
On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 23:42:33 -0500, Alan Altmark wrote:
>
>Architecturally, the TOD clock follows TAI, with an epoch (TOD = all zeros) of
>Jan 1, 1900. It doesn't care about the 37 leap seconds that have been
>introduced into UTC since the epoch.(hence, TAI) If you used a standard
Do you have Chicago Software Quick Ref tool?
We actually have several part process
The MIG setting on the Pool for auto migration when the pool reaches a certain
Percentage
We use QW to create a Storage listing, then run a CA OPS/MVS process to parse
the output and see if the pool needs to
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 09:22:11 -0700, Lizette Koehler
wrote:
>Do you have Chicago Software Quick Ref tool?
>
>We actually have several part process
>
>The MIG setting on the Pool for auto migration when the pool reaches a certain
>Percentage
>
>We use QW to create a Storage listing, then run a
Dave,
Do you have DFSMShsm? If so, turn on Interval Migration and it manage the %
threshold of freespace for you.
If you do not have DFSMShsm, what do you have?
Bob
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>You may want to pose the question at the official unofficial SA user group
>found here: https://groups.io/g/SAUsers
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I'm sure someone has solved this. I'm now managing DASD management at my
shop. One thing that bothers me is my guys getting off-shift calls because
some active storage pools fall below a % threshold of freespace. We arent
skimpy on provisioning, but dont want to over-provision
>Dave,
>
>Do you have DFSMShsm? If so, turn on Interval Migration and it manage the %
>threshold of freespace for you.
>
>If you do not have DFSMShsm, what do you have?
>
>Bob
Thanks Bob, we do have HSM. Sorry, I'm not well-versed in this area. Are
there tools to know when you need to add
You may want to pose the question at the official unofficial SA user group
found here: https://groups.io/g/SAUsers
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 6:01 AM Dave Jousma <
01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm sure someone has solved this. I'm now managing DASD management
Please do ignore this mail/thread if it seems derailing.
It hurts to see that someone just gets to manage storage at a shop like this.
While at the same time, there's unnecessary gatekeeping on the hiring side,
asking stupid questions and completely ignoring a person's "prior art" and
On 11/4/2021 6:04 AM, kekronbekron wrote:
Else DCOLLECT and REXX (there was an IBM System Magazine article with sample
code for this) for migration data.
DCOLLECT is an IDCAMS function that gathers information about
DASD-resident data sets.
AFAIK, it has no function to display information
Ed
gets you the “DFSMS Advanced Customization Guide” manual that describes
the SMS SSI interface for querying this sort of data.
BTDTGTT
Rob
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I'm sure there are tools, but I never had the luxury of acquiring any of them.
I simply managed the SMS environment.
You need to understand your DFSMS and DFSMShsm environments *and* the current
rules/values your predecessors set up.
Big questions:
Do you have enough ENABLED capacity in your
Hi Dave,
What you've mentioned will work.
A cyclic automation rule that runs a REXX which does the following:
1. D SMS,SG(ALL) and parse its output (or maybe individual commands for just
the SGs you're interested in, to simplify parsing)
2. Check for availability of DISNEW volumes
3. V SMS
On 11/4/2021 6:03 AM, kekronbekron wrote:
Hi Ed,
Perhaps ISMF in batch?
NaviQuest utility I reckon it's called.
Whenever I look at that stuff, it seems to be geared towards generating
reports showing attributes of various DASD-resident SMS data sets. I
never saw any options for displaying
I just checked myself and it can query ACDS constructs.
DCOLLECT -
OUTFILE(DCOUT) -
SMSDATA(SCDSNAME(ACTIVE))
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Years ago, before HSM, I wrote some code to deal with issues like this.
IIRC, it went something like this.
- About 4 times a day a job would run to identify problem packs
(volumes) by relative ranking, noting the 4 worst of each. IIRC, it used
the LSPACE(?) macro.
- Low free
We have some back-office utilities that would like to query a mainframe
DFSMS management class in order to drive off-platform functionality
based upon mainframe disciplines.
For example, we'd like to purge certain files that haven't been
referenced for more than the "Expire Non-Usage Days"
Else DCOLLECT and REXX (there was an IBM System Magazine article with sample
code for this) for migration data.
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On Thursday, November 4th, 2021 at 6:33 PM, kekronbekron
wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> Perhaps ISMF in batch?
>
> NaviQuest utility I reckon it's
Hi Ed,
Perhaps ISMF in batch?
NaviQuest utility I reckon it's called.
Potentially dumb question/suggestion - the 'expire non-usage days' or a related
parm of the MC should automatically delete the dataset, right?
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On Thursday, November 4th, 2021 at 6:19
When allocations occur during NIP, particularly within ASID=1, they are
not normal allocations. They allocate the volume. This is referred to in
the code as "NIP MOUNT" (and later there is "NIP OPEN"). If I remember
correctly, in some cases that persists for the life of the IPL (the device
is
Hmm.. sorry yeah I did confuse migration with MC a bit.
DCOLLECT will have only migration related info, nothing MC related I suppose.
Not all MCs migrate. In your case, you're just looking for 'last referred date'
irrespective of migration status.
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Thank you, very cool indeed.
Reference:
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=environment-collection-sms-construct-information-example-5
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On Thursday, November 4th, 2021 at 7:14 PM, Mark Jacobs
<0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Thank you, that's what I needed to know!
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On second thought.. sorry, I don't mean gatekeeping.
But rather, a huge disconnect between what the technical team(s) need and the
hiring process/teams & filtering criteria in certain stages.
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On Thursday, November 4th, 2021 at 6:31 PM, kekronbekron
Hi Cameron, to answer your base question... No, ADRDSSU does not support
decrypting an encrypted file during the dump process.
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On 11/4/2021 6:40 AM, Rob Scott wrote:
gets you the “DFSMS Advanced Customization Guide” manual that describes
the SMS SSI interface for querying this sort of data.
How stupid of IBM to hide such basic stuff behind a pay wall...
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DCOLLECT SMSDATA *does* provide this - an MC record is generated for each
management class and expire days non-usage is at offset decimal 220 in the
MC record.
Whether having this information in a flat file is useful to you may well be
another matter.
The field layouts are in the Access Method
Ed, from ISMF list the management class in the line operator issue the
display command
DIS SPA will show
expiration attributes
Carmen
On 11/4/2021 9:53 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 11/4/2021 6:40 AM, Rob Scott wrote:
gets you the “DFSMS Advanced Customization Guide” manual that
describes
yeah, sorry Ed, that's your subject of the post :(
thanks Bob !
nevermind :
Carmen
On 11/4/2021 10:01 AM, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote:
Carmen,
Ed wants a programmatic way of doing it, not logging on to a system and issuing
ISMF commands from within the dialog.
Bob
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 13:01:07 +, kekronbekron
wrote:
>Please do ignore this mail/thread if it seems derailing.
>
>It hurts to see that someone just gets to manage storage at a shop like this.
>While at the same time, there's unnecessary gatekeeping on the hiring side,
>asking stupid
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 13:08:01 +, kekronbekron
wrote:
>Hi Dave,
>
>What you've mentioned will work.
>A cyclic automation rule that runs a REXX which does the following:
>1. D SMS,SG(ALL) and parse its output (or maybe individual commands for just
>the SGs you're interested in, to simplify
Dave,
Feel free to contact me directly:
robert.richa...@opm.gov
Bob
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On Thu, 4 Nov
Hi Dave,
Yeah, no disrespect of course.
It's just a reflection of how I read the situation.
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On Thursday, November 4th, 2021 at 8:02 PM, Dave Jousma
<01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 13:01:07 +, kekronbekron
On 11/4/2021 6:44 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote:
I just checked myself and it can query ACDS constructs.
DCOLLECT -
OUTFILE(DCOUT) -
SMSDATA(SCDSNAME(ACTIVE))
No. All this gives you is the _names_ of SMS constructs associated with
a data set.
As I have said, we want to discover the "Expire
On 11/4/2021 6:49 AM, kekronbekron wrote:
Hmm.. sorry yeah I did confuse migration with MC a bit.
DCOLLECT will have only migration related info, nothing MC related I suppose.
Not all MCs migrate. In your case, you're just looking for 'last referred date'
irrespective of migration status.
We
Carmen,
Ed wants a programmatic way of doing it, not logging on to a system and issuing
ISMF commands from within the dialog.
Bob
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Carmen Vitullo
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A quick test of the relevant NaviQuest batch program will give us the answer.
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=environment-collection-sms-construct-information-example-5
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On Thursday, November 4th, 2021 at 8:31 PM, Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
On 11/4/2021 8:01 AM, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote:
Ed wants a programmatic way of doing it, not logging on to a system and issuing
ISMF commands from within the dialog.
I literally put that fundamental requirement in the subject line of my post.
For some reason, my query has been totally
Perhaps somewhat Rube-Goldberg, but a threadsafe CICS transaction invoked via
EXCI from an off-platform system running on an L8 TCB could issue a dynamic
call to IDCAMS redirecting the output via an output exit that could put the
information into a TSQ, then when the IDCAMS call is complete
On 11/4/2021 7:55 AM, Nigel Morton wrote:
DCOLLECT SMSDATA *does* provide this - an MC record is generated for each
management class and expire days non-usage is at offset decimal 220 in the
MC record.
Whether having this information in a flat file is useful to you may well be
another matter.
I thought that you could only have a PDSE after MSI.
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When allocations occur
On 11/4/2021 8:09 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 11/4/2021 7:55 AM, Nigel Morton wrote:
DCOLLECT SMSDATA *does* provide this - an MC record is generated for
each
management class and expire days non-usage is at offset decimal 220
in the
MC record.
That does indeed work!
My apologies for
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