Re: Converting to SMS for the first time

2012-07-05 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Ron,

These two sentences contradict each other:

 I would urge you to consider vertical pooling rather than horizontal pooling.

 My key point is to go horizontal, and avoid vertical pooling.

I understand your point, but others may not. Care to rewrite this post a little 
bit for clarification?  

Bob


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Subject: Re: Converting to SMS for the first time

Lizette,

Before starting down the SMS path I think there are ways of approaching your 
storage groups that will become increasingly important over time. One is 
horizontal pooling, and the other is vertical pooling.

Horizontal pooling is where you group volumes based on some business or 
application boundary, like having all the volumes for banking in one storage 
group, and all the volumes for credit cards in another. 

Vertical pooling is where you pool volumes based on the volume attributes, so 
you may have all your HUR copied DUPLEX volumes in one storage group, and all 
the suspended temporary dataset volumes in another storage group.

I would urge you to consider vertical pooling rather than horizontal pooling. 
Horizontal pooling by its nature appeases many of the political problems that 
occur with implementing SMS, especially the MVS neophytes that cannot get their 
mind beyond the that other application can steal all my freespace mindset. I 
have seen this turn a site into 120+ storage groups, and I've heard of more. 
You don't want to be managing that.

Horizontal pooling allows you to minimize the things you manage, and maximize 
the access to the resources within the pool. I start out with just a few 
Storage Group categories that define workload that you may want to keep 
separate for usage, performance, or some other reason. As a rule I use:

TMP: truly temporary datasets, and not transitory datasets passed from job to 
job

DBS: any dataset allocated by a DBMS (IMS, DB2, IDMS, etc) or an OLTP (CICS, 
etc). Some datasets may also be used by batch jobs, but if it is part of a 
database at any point then it goes here.

GEN: the general pool which starts out as anything with a TSO users HLQ or a 
DSORG=PO.

SYS: the system software pool.  Datasets with a software product HLQ go here 
(SYS2, SYS3, CA, BMC, etc). Most of this is software that is not cutover with a 
pack copy, or the actual data files used by the software.

GTD: a guaranteed space pool for anything that requires hand placement or 
dedicated volumes. For example volumes shared across plexes with converted 
reserves turned off, or a dedicated, custom sized volume for the TMC.

BAT: the batch pool. Essentially anything that does not qualify for the first 
five categories will be created a by a batch job and drop through into this 
pool. It makes ACS coding easy :-)

If datasets within these categories have special hardware requirements, you can 
split the pool and name them with a suffix. For example you have a mixed vendor 
shop and most of your batch datasets can use HDS Shadowimage, but there are a 
few applications that are built around EMC Timefinder. You can use SGBAT00 as a 
generic Storage Group, and have a SGBAT01 storage group for datasets that 
require Shadowimage, and SGBAT02 for datasets that require Timefinder. SGBAT01 
only has HDS volumes, and SGBAT02 only has EMC volumes. When you replace your 
EMC with a VSP (VBG) you can merge the three pools back into SGBAT00.

Once I have poured over DCOLLECT and Type42_6 records to establish how datasets 
are used I build a model of the storage group space requirements and contents. 
Many years ago I wrote a SMS allocation simulator in SAS using these SMF 
records. It helped me plan SMS conversions at a few sites, especially the pool 
sizes and Management Class migration potential. It also provided the basis for 
a large part of the ACS code.

One medium sized site in Indonesia - really smart people - implemented a 
complete conversion with this approach in a three month window from project 
start to end. After seeing this work on production they implemented this in 
development with a single storage group, which is what I would usually 
recommend for a typical development setup.

Anyway I have probably bored you to tears. My key point is to go horizontal, 
and avoid vertical pooling.

Ron


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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:27 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Converting to SMS for the first time
 
 I have a friend who has a shop that is non SMS.  I am trying to provide a
 simple check list on how to convert to SMS managed storage.
 
 If anyone has suggestions on best practices for a conversion – please let me
 know.
 
 I have one idea of how to do, but others with more experience 

Troubleshooting with a new library

2012-07-05 Thread Marc Manuel
Hello,

I've just switched from an IBM 3494 to an IBM TS3500.
Sometimes some jobs are failing (they where working fine with the old
library) :

20.30.07 JOB12951  IEF233A M
1407,PRIVAT,SL,PSSA0012,SSA00120,SAVEXT.VCF495B.G0914V00
20.31.06 JOB12951  IEC501A M
1407,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,PSSA0012,SSA00120,SAVEXT.VCF495B.G0914V00
20.31.08 JOB12951  IEC147I
613-1C,IFG0194J,PSSA0012,SSA00120,OUT001,1407,K21059.SAVEXT.VCF  029
   029 IEE763I NAME= IFG0194J CODE= 6131C

   029 IEC147I LOGREC ID =

   029 IEE763I NAME= CBRLLACS CODE= 14016A

   029 CBR4000I LACS MOUNT PERMANENT ERROR FOR DRIVE 1407.

   029 CBR4106I INVALID SEQUENCE OF ORDERS SENT TO LIBRARY
TS3500.
   029 IEE764I END OF IEC147IRELATED MESSAGES


I have no idea why there is a double mount.

My os is z/OS 1.13, I have all P¨TF for 3584 and 3592, the TS3500 is at the
last level of code.

Hardware guys says no problem with the library...

When I retry the job later, it works fine...

Any trick to solve this problem ?

Thank you.

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Re: Troubleshooting with a new library

2012-07-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Marc Manuel mmanue...@gmail.com wrote in message 
news:CAM_-7R=S=epydfgssshiolmd0pcdg8wedgzjky1covngkvn...@mail.gmail.com...
 Hello,
 
 I've just switched from an IBM 3494 to an IBM TS3500.
 Sometimes some jobs are failing (they where working fine with the old
 library) :
 
 20.30.07 JOB12951  IEF233A M
 1407,PRIVAT,SL,PSSA0012,SSA00120,SAVEXT.VCF495B.G0914V00
 20.31.06 JOB12951  IEC501A M
 1407,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,PSSA0012,SSA00120,SAVEXT.VCF495B.G0914V00
 20.31.08 JOB12951  IEC147I
 613-1C,IFG0194J,PSSA0012,SSA00120,OUT001,1407,K21059.SAVEXT.VCF  029
029 IEE763I NAME= IFG0194J CODE= 6131C
 
029 IEC147I LOGREC ID =
 
029 IEE763I NAME= CBRLLACS CODE= 14016A
 
029 CBR4000I LACS MOUNT PERMANENT ERROR FOR DRIVE 1407.
 
029 CBR4106I INVALID SEQUENCE OF ORDERS SENT TO LIBRARY
 TS3500.
029 IEE764I END OF IEC147IRELATED MESSAGES
 
 
 I have no idea why there is a double mount.
 
 My os is z/OS 1.13, I have all P¨TF for 3584 and 3592, the TS3500 is at the
 last level of code.
 
 Hardware guys says no problem with the library...
 
 When I retry the job later, it works fine...
 
 Any trick to solve this problem ?
 
 Thank you.
 

Weird problem.

From the IEC501A message:
   
 IEC501A is issued by Open when Allocation has not issued a mount message   
 
 (that is, when no IEF233A or IEF233D has been issued -- for example,
 mounts with DEFER coded) and the volume is needed immediately. 
   
   
Do you have any software assisting/modifying mounts?

Kees.


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Re: TS7700: is there a z/OS interface to the TS3500 tape library?

2012-07-05 Thread Mike Wood
Kees,  I dont know of good interface.  The books do mention a CLI which is 
available via Java. 
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/ts3500tl/v1r0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.storage.ts3500.doc%2Fipg_3584_cli.html

OAM provides possible alternatives:
1. D SMS LIBRARY(),DETAIL output contains a status line when there are no 
cleaner cartridges.
2. The library issues an alert to the host systems when something happens with 
cleaner cartridges, these are issued by OAM with CBR3750I, and contains things 
like OP0008 * The library is out of CST/ECCST cleaner cartridges. There are 
many alerts related to cleaner carts, see here 
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/ts7700/cust/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.storage.ts7740.doc%2Fts7740_ua_operator_info.html

You could use automation to detect and parse the message and create your own 
alert to ops.

Mike Wood

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Re: INACTIVE Spool Volume

2012-07-05 Thread Reiner Markus
I did a $PSPL(SPOOL1) followed by message $HASP424 SPOOL1 IS NOT MOUNTED.
The I initialized a volume SPOOL1 and purged it with message $HASP414 OBTAIN 
FAILED FOR SYS1.SYSE.HASPACE ON SPOOL1 WITH CC 8.
Now I allocated haspace data set on volume and purged it with message
$HASP421 PREVIOUSLY MOUNTED VOLUME SPOOL1 IS UNFORMATTED
$HASP443 SPOOL1 NOT ALLOCATED 167   
  I/O ERROR DURING READ VALIDATION, RC=03   
I then tried to start the spool on SPOOL1 with the same I/O error message.

Reiner

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Re: TS7700: is there a z/OS interface to the TS3500 tape library?

2012-07-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Mike Wood mww...@ntlworld.com wrote in message
news:9338247828173738.wa.mwwoodntlworld@listserv.ua.edu...
 Kees,  I dont know of good interface.  The books do mention a CLI
which is available via Java.
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/ts3500tl/v1r0/index.jsp?topic=%
2Fcom.ibm.storage.ts3500.doc%2Fipg_3584_cli.html
 
 OAM provides possible alternatives:
 1. D SMS LIBRARY(),DETAIL output contains a status line when there are
no cleaner cartridges.
 2. The library issues an alert to the host systems when something
happens with cleaner cartridges, these are issued by OAM with CBR3750I,
and contains things like OP0008 * The library is out of CST/ECCST
cleaner cartridges. There are many alerts related to cleaner carts, see
here
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/ts7700/cust/index.jsp?topic=%2F
com.ibm.storage.ts7740.doc%2Fts7740_ua_operator_info.html
 
 You could use automation to detect and parse the message and create
your own alert to ops.
 
 Mike Wood
 

Mike,

I was looking for warning operations before it really becomes a problem,
e.g. when the number of cleaning cartridges falls below 3. Especially
for the remote cluster, so they can plan a trip to insert new ones.

I have now pointed them to the GUI, where they can regularly check the
status of the cleaning cartridges.

I will look for automating and emailing them:
OP0008 W Media * The library is out of CST/ECCST cleaner cartridges.

And maybe also:
OP0401 M Media * x cleaner cartridge (yy) was ejected due to
maximum use

Thanks for your investigations,
Kees.


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Re: INACTIVE Spool Volume

2012-07-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Reiner Markus reiner.mar...@gmx.net wrote in message
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 I did a $PSPL(SPOOL1) followed by message $HASP424 SPOOL1 IS NOT
MOUNTED.
 The I initialized a volume SPOOL1 and purged it with message $HASP414
OBTAIN FAILED FOR SYS1.SYSE.HASPACE ON SPOOL1 WITH CC 8.
 Now I allocated haspace data set on volume and purged it with message
 $HASP421 PREVIOUSLY MOUNTED VOLUME SPOOL1 IS UNFORMATTED
 $HASP443 SPOOL1 NOT ALLOCATED 167   
   I/O ERROR DURING READ VALIDATION, RC=03   
 I then tried to start the spool on SPOOL1 with the same I/O error
message.
 
 Reiner
 

Have a look at this Red Alert, it seems applicable:
http://www14.software.ibm.com/support/customercare/sas/f/redAlerts/20120
629.html

Kees.


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Re: Troubleshooting with a new library

2012-07-05 Thread Marc Manuel
Hello,

I do not have such software, I have CA-TLMS but I don't think that it could
be involved in such a work.
My jobs are not running with DEFER coded , I tried with DEFER coded,
same results...

I always have IEF233A on jobs that works fine :

06.04.13 JOB13871  IEF233A M
1405,PRIVAT,SL,PSSA0012,SSA00120,SAVEXT.VCF495B.G0914V00
06.05.05 JOB13871  IEC705I TAPE ON
1405,K21684,SL,COMP,PSSA0012,SSA00120,SAVEXT.VCF495B.G0914V00,MEDIA5
06.05.10 JOB13871  IEC205I OUT001,PSSA0012,SSA00120,FILESEQ=1, COMPLETE
VOLUME LIST,  978
   978 DSN=SAVEXT.VCF495B.G0914V00,VOLS=K21684,TOTALBLOCKS=175

06.05.19 JOB13871  IEC205I OUT002,PSSA0012,SSA00120,FILESEQ=2, COMPLETE
VOLUME LIST,  985
   985 DSN=SAVEXT.VCF495C.G0914V00,VOLS=K21684,TOTALBLOCKS=169

JCL snippet :
//OUT001   DD UNIT=R3592,DISP=(,CATLG),VOL=(,RETAIN),
// LABEL=001,DSN=SAVEXT.VCF4960(+1)
//OUT002   DD UNIT=R3592,DISP=(,CATLG),VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.OUT001),
// LABEL=002,DSN=SAVEXT.VCF4961(+1)
//OUT003   DD UNIT=R3592,DISP=(,CATLG),VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.OUT002),
// LABEL=003,DSN=SAVEXT.VCF4962(+1)

As IBM told me, I didn't put any MIH records into IECIOSxx.

The ficons bettween the Z10 and the TS3500 are 330 meters long, they where
only 30 meters long with the old library.

Regards.


2012/7/5 Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com

 Marc Manuel mmanue...@gmail.com wrote in message news:CAM_-7R=S=
 epydfgssshiolmd0pcdg8wedgzjky1covngkvn...@mail.gmail.com...
  Hello,
 
  I've just switched from an IBM 3494 to an IBM TS3500.
  Sometimes some jobs are failing (they where working fine with the old
  library) :
 
  20.30.07 JOB12951  IEF233A M
  1407,PRIVAT,SL,PSSA0012,SSA00120,SAVEXT.VCF495B.G0914V00
  20.31.06 JOB12951  IEC501A M
  1407,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,PSSA0012,SSA00120,SAVEXT.VCF495B.G0914V00
  20.31.08 JOB12951  IEC147I
  613-1C,IFG0194J,PSSA0012,SSA00120,OUT001,1407,K21059.SAVEXT.VCF  029
 029 IEE763I NAME= IFG0194J CODE= 6131C
 
 029 IEC147I LOGREC ID =
 
 029 IEE763I NAME= CBRLLACS CODE= 14016A
 
 029 CBR4000I LACS MOUNT PERMANENT ERROR FOR DRIVE 1407.
 
 029 CBR4106I INVALID SEQUENCE OF ORDERS SENT TO LIBRARY
  TS3500.
 029 IEE764I END OF IEC147IRELATED MESSAGES
 
 
  I have no idea why there is a double mount.
 
  My os is z/OS 1.13, I have all P¨TF for 3584 and 3592, the TS3500 is at
 the
  last level of code.
 
  Hardware guys says no problem with the library...
 
  When I retry the job later, it works fine...
 
  Any trick to solve this problem ?
 
  Thank you.
 

 Weird problem.

 From the IEC501A message:

  IEC501A is issued by Open when Allocation has not issued a mount message
  (that is, when no IEF233A or IEF233D has been issued -- for example,
  mounts with DEFER coded) and the volume is needed immediately.

 Do you have any software assisting/modifying mounts?

 Kees.

 
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Re: INACTIVE Spool Volume

2012-07-05 Thread Scott Ford
Reiner,

Can you tell me which version of z/OS your installation is on ? 


Scott ford
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On Jul 5, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Reiner Markus reiner.mar...@gmx.net wrote:

 Kees,
 
 seems we werer hit by this red alert. z/OS 1.11 PTF UA61942 is already 
 accepted because it's from december last year. Now I will do a spool offload 
 and cold start JES2 at this weekend to get rid of SPOOL1. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Reiner Markus 
 
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FW: GSE security working group minutes.

2012-07-05 Thread Mark Wilson
Sent on behalf of GSE Security Chairman – Jamie Pease.

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Re: INACTIVE Spool Volume

2012-07-05 Thread Scott Ford
Reiner,

Sorry I asked, I reread your last post. I know your on z/OS 1.11 

Scott ford
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On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Reiner,
 
 Can you tell me which version of z/OS your installation is on ? 
 
 
 Scott ford
 www.identityforge.com
 
 On Jul 5, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Reiner Markus reiner.mar...@gmx.net wrote:
 
 Kees,
 
 seems we werer hit by this red alert. z/OS 1.11 PTF UA61942 is already 
 accepted because it's from december last year. Now I will do a spool offload 
 and cold start JES2 at this weekend to get rid of SPOOL1. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Reiner Markus 
 
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Re: Quantas hit by leap second issue?

2012-07-05 Thread John Chase
On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 05:53:21 -0500, Barry Merrill ba...@mxg.com wrote:

QATAR Airways is also without the U and seemingly well pronounced in their
advertisements.

Hmmm  ISTR Qatar being pronounced Cutter in recent news reports.  I've 
not heard their airline's name pronounced, properly or improperly.

   -jc-

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Re: Shrinking a ZFS aggregate

2012-07-05 Thread Jake anderson
Dear sir,

Ioefsprm parmlib member ? Looking at aggrow keyword, but not sure if it
addresses your need. Apology if my assumption is wrong.
On Jul 5, 2012 5:20 PM, Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com wrote:

 So John is back to useless posts that do more to attack than to provide
 substance.  Your earlier departure from this list was not missed.

 - Don Imbriale

 On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 7:25 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:

  Mark,
 
  I am aware that you have done very useful work, and I will therefore be
  polite.
 
  I am a nevertheless more than a little tired of this nonsense.  I have
  been in this business since 1949.  That's 63 years.  How long have you
  been in this business?
 
  You would presumably agree with milder formulations of the notion I
  set out, say that a GETMAIN makes a complementary FREEMAIN desirable,
  perhaps even necessary.
 
  Moreover, you omitted to provide any details of the many examples of
  things that can be made larger but not smaller that you can think
  of; and this made your argument unimpressive, converted it into
  vacuous rhetoric.
 
  I can myself think of instances of the sort you allude to without
  mentioning, and those I have examined in detail stem from the usual
  omissis.  If shrinking as well as stretching had been a requirement ab
  initio, it would have been easy enough to implement.  It was not, and
  it was hard to provide as an add-on feature.   This is bad design, and
  Garden-of-Eden states do almost always reflect design defects
 
  Substantive argument and disagreement are fine.  I expect to be
  disagreed with.  I indeed try not to post platitudes that can provoke
  no disagreement.  You, howerver, omitted to make any substantive
  argument.  Your post was one more instance of what I have elsewhere
  used MIlls' term to characterize as crackpot realism.
 
  John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 -
 
 
 

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Re: Quantas hit by leap second issue?

2012-07-05 Thread zMan
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:02 AM, John Chase jonboy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmmm  ISTR Qatar being pronounced Cutter in recent news reports.
  I've not heard their airline's name pronounced, properly or improperly.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar, of course, includes pronunciation.

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Re: Shrinking a ZFS aggregate

2012-07-05 Thread McKown, John
What is needed is for IBM to write a zfsresize command. This command would 
reorganize the internals of a zfs, compacting the used portions towards the 
front of the dataset, adjusting the internal pointers, and marking some 
portion (based on the user's input) as unusable. Once the UNIX people have 
written this code, the DFSMS people will need to write code which allows the 
excess space in a VSAM LDS file to be released. Or is this functionality 
already in SMS. I have a vague memory. Like so many of my memories.

OK, those who want this, write up a business case to show IBM how using up the 
resources to do this would result in a quantifiable advantage to IBM. I would 
guess (not sure), that means either makes them more money, or costs them less 
money in the future (say for maintenance). It pretty much all boils down to 
money (gained or not spent).

Personally, I don't give this a good chance. IMO, the best bet for this is to:
1) calculate how much space you want in the filesystem.
2) allocate a new zFS filesystem with that much space.
3) mount the new zFS filesystem at a new mountpoint.
4) remount the existing zFS filesystem in read-only mode (chmod -r /mount-point)
5) use something like pax to copy the files from the old filesystem to the new 
one 
   pax -k -pe -rw /old-mount-point /new-mount-point)
6) Unmount the old and new filesystems.
7) mount the new filesystem at the old mount point.
8) Update the BPXPRMxx member of PARMLIB.

Instead of the above 6  7, once you have the filesystems unmounted, you can 
rename the old dataset to some different name, and the new dataset to the old 
name and then do a mount.

Of course, steps 6+ assume that you can do the unmount. This is not always 
possible. If not, you would need to update the BPXPRMnn member and reIPL. In 
the worse case, perhaps a sysplex wide IPL.

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Test please ignore

2012-07-05 Thread Roberto Halais
Test please ignore

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Re: PCOMM copy-paste (quite another issue)

2012-07-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 08:25:09 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote:

 Steve Bireley sbire...@rocketsoftware.com said:

True that they are not unique to APL and is a code page issue.
However, some of the lines drawn on 3270 screens in many emulators
are drawn using an APL font instead of Unicode or some other code
page.

I doubt that it's an APL font; TEXT is more likely. Page 437 is more
likely than either.

Fidelity in copy/paste requires that both applications know what they're doing 
with the clipboard.  When you place data on the clipboard, you have to tell 
(assuming Windows in this case) about what you've written, and you can't lie.  
If you tell the API the data is text (associated with a locale), then Windows 
will be able to translate it.

And I would certainly expect the emulator's copy function to be intelligent 
enough to recognize that APL data (code page 294) is implemented on a 3270 
using a mixture of two code pages: the base code page (e.g. 037) and code page 
310, with the 3270 Graphic Escape character prefixing each APL-specific 
character in code page 310.

Default locale for Western Windows assumes code page 1252.  But not even DOS 
code page 437 has all of the APL characters in it, so the emulator must store 
data on the clipboard in Unicode format.

The pasting application must then retrieve the data from the clipboard in 
Unicode format.  If the editor doesn't support Unicode, but only the SBCS 
implicit in the locale settings, Windows will translate the Unicode to the 
locale cod page, but you you will not get a good result.

In this case, if the emulator does not convert them to another
character set or code page when putting the text in the clipboard,
then the PC application receiving the data will display the
corresponding characters using the character set it has loaded.

That's an issue regardless of what code page it is using.

Generally speaking, full fidelity requires both the copying app and the pasting 
app have to have a common frame of reference.

The TEXT setting, on the other hand, corresponds to a code page that I believe 
was used by ATMS, and was not tied to the TN print train (code page 264).  I 
have never been able to ferret out the code page used by ATMS.

Alan Altmark
IBM

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Re: PCOMM copy-paste (quite another issue)

2012-07-05 Thread Steve Comstock

On 7/5/2012 8:19 AM, Alan Altmark wrote:

On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 08:25:09 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote:


Steve Bireley sbire...@rocketsoftware.com said:


True that they are not unique to APL and is a code page issue.
However, some of the lines drawn on 3270 screens in many emulators
are drawn using an APL font instead of Unicode or some other code
page.


I doubt that it's an APL font; TEXT is more likely. Page 437 is more
likely than either.


Fidelity in copy/paste requires that both applications know what they're
doing

with the clipboard. When you place data on the clipboard, you have to tell
(assuming Windows in this case) about what you've written, and you can't lie. If
you tell the API the data is text (associated with a locale), then Windows will
be able to translate it.


And I would certainly expect the emulator's copy function to be intelligent

enough to recognize that APL data (code page 294) is implemented on a 3270 using
a mixture of two code pages: the base code page (e.g. 037) and code page 310,
with the 3270 Graphic Escape character prefixing each APL-specific character in
code page 310.


Default locale for Western Windows assumes code page 1252. But not even DOS

code page 437 has all of the APL characters in it, so the emulator must store
data on the clipboard in Unicode format.


The pasting application must then retrieve the data from the clipboard in

Unicode format. If the editor doesn't support Unicode, but only the SBCS
implicit in the locale settings, Windows will translate the Unicode to the
locale cod page, but you you will not get a good result.



In this case, if the emulator does not convert them to another
character set or code page when putting the text in the clipboard,
then the PC application receiving the data will display the
corresponding characters using the character set it has loaded.


That's an issue regardless of what code page it is using.


Generally speaking, full fidelity requires both the copying app and the

pasting app have to have a common frame of reference.


The TEXT setting, on the other hand, corresponds to a code page that I
believe

was used by ATMS, and was not tied to the TN print train (code page 264). I have
never been able to ferret out the code page used by ATMS.


Alan Altmark
IBM



Great exposition, Alan. Clear, coherent, helpful.

Thanks.


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Re: Shrinking a ZFS aggregate

2012-07-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:50:25 -0500, McKown, John wrote:

What is needed is for IBM to write a zfsresize command. This command would 
reorganize the internals of a zfs, compacting the used portions towards the 
front of the dataset, adjusting the internal pointers, and marking some 
portion (based on the user's input) as unusable. Once the UNIX people have 
written this code, the DFSMS people will need to write code which allows the 
excess space in a VSAM LDS file to be released. Or is this functionality 
already in SMS. I have a vague memory. Like so many of my memories.
 
You neglected to say that this all must be done nondisruptively, while
the filesystem may be in use and files may be open for update.

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Re: Converting to SMS for the first time

2012-07-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ron Hawkins wrote:

I would urge you to consider vertical pooling rather than horizontal pooling. 
... 
 My key point is to go horizontal, and avoid vertical pooling.

Vertical against horizontal? Perhaps I missed something in your post, but in my 
very humble opinion, I think both sentences are not speaking the same tongue

Of course, I'm pretty sure I'm as usual wrong. Please correct me if needed ... 

Many thanks and have a terrific day! 

Groete / Greetings
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Re: IEZVX100 field CTXTHABD (for ieavxmit)

2012-07-05 Thread Peter Fatzinger
Bernard,
  The bit would most likely be set for a message that has been displayed on 
some console/device, and is now going through normal WTO processing to insure 
it gets sent to the hardcopy log.  Two examples of messages that may have this 
bit set would be messages that were issued during NIP, or synchronous messages. 
 An explanation of synchronous messages can be found in MVS Planning: 
Operations.
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z/OS Core Components Development and Service

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Re: Converting to SMS for the first time

2012-07-05 Thread Rob Schramm
You may want to consider the use of a couple size-related pools.  During
one analysis ... something like 80% of the data sets were below 5 tracks.


Rob Schramm
Senior Systems Consultant
Imperium Group



On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

 Ron Hawkins wrote:

 I would urge you to consider vertical pooling rather than horizontal
 pooling.
 ...
  My key point is to go horizontal, and avoid vertical pooling.

 Vertical against horizontal? Perhaps I missed something in your post, but
 in my very humble opinion, I think both sentences are not speaking the same
 tongue

 Of course, I'm pretty sure I'm as usual wrong. Please correct me if needed
 ...

 Many thanks and have a terrific day!

 Groete / Greetings
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Re: Troubleshooting with a new library

2012-07-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Marc Manuel wrote:

Sometimes some jobs are failing (they where working fine with the old library) 
:

Do you see any repeating pattern with those jobs?

20.30.07 JOB12951  IEF233A M 
1407,PRIVAT,SL,PSSA0012,SSA00120,SAVEXT.VCF495B.G0914V00
20.31.06 JOB12951  IEC501A M 
1407,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,PSSA0012,SSA00120,SAVEXT.VCF495B.G0914V00
20.31.08 JOB12951  IEC147I 
613-1C,IFG0194J,PSSA0012,SSA00120,OUT001,1407,K21059.SAVEXT.VCF  029

613 against another dataset?

Those first two messages are about a minute spaced out! Are you sure they are 
referred by the same STEP/dataset?


I have no idea why there is a double mount.

double mount with different mount messages? With elapsed wall clock time of 
59 seconds?


When I retry the job later, it works fine...

On z/OS v1.13? You must have other allocation exit or message exit or something 
else...
Or you must have a tape management software intercepting those mounts...

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Quantas hit by leap second issue?

2012-07-05 Thread Mike Schwab
http://katdish.net/2012/02/the-art-of-beating-a-dead-horse/

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Mohammad Khan mkkha...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Sure, but one could still beat them :)

 On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 17:16:28 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com 
 wrote:

 So USS and USS would be a case of a ...

Dead horse.
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Searching for a cross=reference list of manuals ...

2012-07-05 Thread Mark Yuhas
I am searching for a cross-reference list for the manuals I downloaded
for 1.13.  I really don't want to open each an every PDF to determine
the title of the associated manual.  Does such a cross-reference list
exist?  If so, where can I obtain it?

 

Prior to Windows 7, the VIEW tab had a detail setting that would dispay
the title.  Windows 7 doesn't work that way for me.


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Re: DCOLLECT Ouput recort Structure

2012-07-05 Thread Sri h Kolusu
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 
07/04/2012 10:43:09 PM:

 From: Ravi Gaur gaur.ravi2...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, 
 Date: 07/04/2012 10:43 PM
 Subject: Re: DCOLLECT Ouput recort Structure
 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 
 Got it sorted ..it's more DFSORT OUTREC i should have used rather 
 than Build as that doesn't support the PD to ZD conversion function.
 
 OPTION VLSHRT 
 MERGE FIELDS=COPY 
 INCLUDE COND=((9,2,CH,EQ,C'D ',AND, 
   74,1,BI,EQ,B'1...')) 
 OUTFIL FNAMES=DCOLOUT,CONVERT, 
 OUTREC=(1,4,  * RDW 
5:29,44,   * DATASET NAME 
49:83,6,   * VOLUME SERIAL NUMBER 
57:109,4,PD,TO=ZD,LENGTH=7,* CREATION DATE 
66:117,4,PD,TO=ZD,LENGTH=7,* LAST REFERENCE DATE 
180:X)  * PAD WITH BLANKS 
 END 
 
 I could include 74,1,BI,EQ,B'...1') for PDSE as well and that's 
 working good as well...
 
 Thanks all who responded..I always try to put the solution back 
 since might other who looking for same inforamtion get it useful.
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Ravi,

It is your Data that have invalid Packed decimal fields which resulted in 
a S0C7. It is has got nothing to do with how DFSORT'S BUILD works. Earlier 
you used an EDIT mask for the Date field and now you are converting it to 
a ZD field. The BUILD works the same way as OUTREC. So replace your OUTREC 
with BUILD and it would NOT make a difference. 

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Re: HELP WITH PCOM - PASTE OPTION NOT WORKING CORRECTLY

2012-07-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#74 HELP WITH PCOM - PASTE OPTION NOT 
WORKING CORRECTLY

one of the things that electronics still in the 3277 head made possible
was the 3277ga ... basically a tektronics graphics display hooked into
the side of the 3277 terminal (could sort of be considered an
inexpensive 2250/3250).

4015 ref (for $8995 in 1974)
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/accession/102641282

by comparison a 2250-1 (mainframe channel attach) was $100k. for
whatever reason a 2250-4 was also about the same price (a 2250/1130
computer combo).

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Re: Shrinking a ZFS aggregate

2012-07-05 Thread Aled Hughes
A rather rude and totally unwarranted comment, Don. 

Personally, I have always welcomed John Gilmore's comments. His command of the 
English language (and other languages) puts most of us to shame as does his 
knowledge and wisdom. 

Don, an apology would not be amiss. Perhaps one is having a bad day?  

ALH



-Original Message-
From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: Shrinking a ZFS aggregate


So John is back to useless posts that do more to attack than to provide
ubstance.  Your earlier departure from this list was not missed.
- Don Imbriale
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 7:25 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mark,

 I am aware that you have done very useful work, and I will therefore be
 polite.

 I am a nevertheless more than a little tired of this nonsense.  I have
 been in this business since 1949.  That's 63 years.  How long have you
 been in this business?

 You would presumably agree with milder formulations of the notion I
 set out, say that a GETMAIN makes a complementary FREEMAIN desirable,
 perhaps even necessary.

 Moreover, you omitted to provide any details of the many examples of
 things that can be made larger but not smaller that you can think
 of; and this made your argument unimpressive, converted it into
 vacuous rhetoric.

 I can myself think of instances of the sort you allude to without
 mentioning, and those I have examined in detail stem from the usual
 omissis.  If shrinking as well as stretching had been a requirement ab
 initio, it would have been easy enough to implement.  It was not, and
 it was hard to provide as an add-on feature.   This is bad design, and
 Garden-of-Eden states do almost always reflect design defects

 Substantive argument and disagreement are fine.  I expect to be
 disagreed with.  I indeed try not to post platitudes that can provoke
 no disagreement.  You, howerver, omitted to make any substantive
 argument.  Your post was one more instance of what I have elsewhere
 used MIlls' term to characterize as crackpot realism.

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Re: Sad News About Rick Fochtman

2012-07-05 Thread Hrycewicz, David
My condolences to Rick's family and friends.

I met Rick over 30 years ago at TTX where I worked as a summer intern.  He was 
a wealth of knowledge - a great example of the world of systems programming 
that I later chose to follow, thanks to lessons from Rick and others.  He was 
always willing to help and answer questions - a generosity that I strive to pay 
back every day in my interactions with my customers and colleagues.  One of 
Rick's greatest lessons is that the best question is one that is 
well-researched.  May he rest in peace.

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Subject: Sad News About Rick Fochtman

For all who have know Rick,
 Rick Fochtman has been having some health issues lately. I called Rick 
yesterday to check on him. My call was answered by his brother who informed me 
that Rick passed away on Friday of natural causes. He was a nice person and I 
was fortunate to meet and know him.

Mohammad

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Re: Converting to SMS for the first time

2012-07-05 Thread Ron Hawkins
Rob,

I have seen the small and large dataset concept discussed since the early
days of DFSMS. To tell the truth I have never seen the benefit of doing
this. 

It has been suggested that it helps reduce allocation failures by reducing
fragmentation, but having always worked in shops with ACC/SRS or similar I
was pretty aggressive with the rules and did not have a problem even when I
ran development STORGRUPs up to 5% free space. And I never defragged.

If fragmentation is the reason for sized based pools, then I wonder if the
practice is still necessary. DFSMS has implemented some elements of ACC/SRS
to reduce allocation problems, and if you are using 3390-A with Cylinder
allocation areas you have a natural separation of small and large datasets
within the volume.

I would say do not implement size related pools, but rather make sure you
make best use of allocation recovery in DFSMSdfp, ACC/SRS, PRO-SMS, or
whatever ISV software you have as part of your implementation.

Ron

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Rob Schramm
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 8:01 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Converting to SMS for the first time
 
 You may want to consider the use of a couple size-related pools.  During
one
 analysis ... something like 80% of the data sets were below 5 tracks.
 
 
 Rob Schramm
 Senior Systems Consultant
 Imperium Group
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
 elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
 
  Ron Hawkins wrote:
 
  I would urge you to consider vertical pooling rather than horizontal
  pooling.
  ...
   My key point is to go horizontal, and avoid vertical pooling.
 
  Vertical against horizontal? Perhaps I missed something in your post,
  but in my very humble opinion, I think both sentences are not speaking
  the same tongue
 
  Of course, I'm pretty sure I'm as usual wrong. Please correct me if
  needed ...
 
  Many thanks and have a terrific day!
 
  Groete / Greetings
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Secure Encryption Keys vs Protected Keys

2012-07-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
I know that YMMV, but have there been any studies done on the 
performance benefits of using protected keys with a crypto-express 3 vs. 
secure keys?


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Re: Secure Encryption Keys vs Protected Keys

2012-07-05 Thread Rob Schramm
Mark,

I remember seeing a paper on the performance.  It was about 30% slower than
clear key using CPACF.  But still ran circles around secure key.

It avoids the entire path to the CEX cards.

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 I know that YMMV, but have there been any studies done on the performance
 benefits of using protected keys with a crypto-express 3 vs. secure keys?

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Re: INACTIVE Spool Volume

2012-07-05 Thread Ed Finnell
I suspect the CHECK Point dsns were looking for SPOOL1 to get SPOOL1  back 
probably need a cold start to free up all the gremlins.  
 
 
In a message dated 7/5/2012 5:26:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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then  tried to start the spool on SPOOL1 with the same I/O error  message.


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Re: Secure Encryption Keys vs Protected Keys

2012-07-05 Thread Rob Schramm
Ooops.. I thought it was IBM.  PKWARE gave a presentation on it.

http://www.share.org/p/do/sd/topic=73sid=1067

Rob Schramm
Senior Systems Consultant
Imperium Group



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 Mark,

 I remember seeing a paper on the performance.  It was about 30% slower
 than clear key using CPACF.  But still ran circles around secure key.

 It avoids the entire path to the CEX cards.

 Rob Schramm
 Senior Systems Consultant
 Imperium Group



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 I know that YMMV, but have there been any studies done on the performance
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NFS Client Start Delay

2012-07-05 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello Lizette,
 We have NFS ( Server and Client) setup on our z/OS
systems. In our environment

1) We have three system are in sysplex. out of them two are in parallel
sysplex. All three z/OS system version are 1.11.
2) We also using netview script to bring down and Ipling all system.
Netview version we are using is 5.3

Currently issue is, Whenever we IPL the system, NFS client doesn't start
completely on two systems, which are in parallel sysplex and because of
this, NFS file system not getting mounted for a while. When we use grs
contention display command, I see NETVIEW enqueue for both of these system.

Some more points :

a) NFS client automatically starts automatically after some time, but no
fixed time. Some time 15 min, some time 30 min etc on these two system.
 b) But NFS client another system which is in sysplex but not in parallel
sysplex start without any issue and NFS file system getting mounted without
any issue.
c) Some time to resolve the issue with NFS client, we used to terminate
netview on these two system. But it doesn't help.

Please look at the joblog below.

23.35.45 STC00161  TUESDAY,   03 JUL 2012 
23.35.45 STC00161  $HASP373 MVSNFSC  STARTED
23.35.45 STC00161  IEF403I MVSNFSC - STARTED - TIME=23.35.45
23.35.45 STC00161  IEE252I MEMBER CTINFC00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB
00.10.15 STC00161  WEDNESDAY, 04 JUL 2012 
00.10.15 STC00161  GFSC284I NETWORK FILE SYSTEM CLIENT COULD NOT GET GSS
CREDENT
   179 FOR THE NFS CLIENT : GSS API krb5_get_default_realm()
FAILED
   179 WITH GSS MAJOR STATUS 96C73ADF GSS MINOR STATUS 
00.10.15 STC00161  GFSC700I z/OS NETWORK FILE SYSTEM CLIENT (HDZ1B1N)
started.

I started NFS client at 23.35.45 but it actually started at 00.10.15e. So,
it took more then 30 min to start. Not sure, why this is happening.
Is there any thing to do with parallel sysplex or something else.

O/P of  the some of the commands are

1) D OMVS,W

BPXO063I 00.07.36 DISPLAY OMVS 142
OMVS 000E ETC/INIT WAIT  OMVS=(05,FS)
MOUNT LATCH ACTIVITY: NONE
FILE SYSTEM LATCH ACTIVITY: NONE
OUTSTANDING CROSS SYSTEM MESSAGES: NONE

OTHER WAITING THREADS:
USER   ASID TCB   PID   AGE
--
  MVSNFSS  0056  006A42C0  196621 00.30.17
 TIME: 2012/07/03 23.37.18
 IS DOING: Osi Wait
  SYSLOGD  005F  006E58E050528262 00.30.48
 TIME: 2012/07/03 23.36.48
 IS DOING: Osi Wait
  FTPD10054  006E5B70  196627 00.30.17
  IS DOING: Osi Wait
   SSHD4005D  006FF1D833751058 00.30.45
  TIME: 2012/07/03 23.36.50
  IS DOING: Osi Wait
   INETD1   005C  006E5B7016973841 00.30.48
  TIME: 2012/07/03 23.36.48
  IS DOING: Osi Wait
   SYSLOGD  005F  006E5B7050528262 00.00.18
  TIME: 2012/07/04 00.07.17
  IS DOING: Osi Wait
   FTPSRV1  005E  006E2B0016973832 00.30.17
  TIME: 2012/07/03 23.37.18
  IS DOING: Osi Wait
   TCPIP0047  006CA748  196615 00.00.08
  TIME: 2012/07/04 00.07.27
  IS DOING: Osi Wait
   PORTMAP  0059  006CED9067305481 00.00.48
  TIME: 2012/07/04 00.06.47
  IS DOING: Osi Wait


2)  D OMVS,MF=ALL

 BPXO058I 00.08.15 DISPLAY OMVS 144
 OMVS 000E ETC/INIT WAIT  OMVS=(05,FS)
 ENTIRE LIST OF FAILURES:
 TIME=23.42.39  DATE=2012/07/03MOUNT RC=0081  RSN=1288005C
   NAME=OMVS.MVS05.IMSV9
   TYPE=HFS
   PATH=/$VERSION/usr/lpp/ims910
   PLIB=BPXPRMFS
 TIME=23.36.04  DATE=2012/07/03MOUNT RC=0079  RSN=055B04B7
   NAME=ZFS.MVS06N.AGG003
   TYPE=ZFS
   PATH=/MVS06/ee
   PARM=
   PLIB=BPXPRMFS
   SYSNAME=MVS06
 TIME=23.35.49  DATE=2012/07/03MOUNT RC=0081  RSN=1288005C
   NAME=OMVS.MVS05.IMSV9
   TYPE=HFS
   PATH=/$VERSION/usr/lpp/ims910
   PLIB=BPXPRMFS



3) D OMVS,L

BPXO051I 00.42.09 DISPLAY OMVS 761
OMVS 000E ACTIVE OMVS=(05,FS)
SYSTEM WIDE LIMITS: LIMMSG=NONE
  CURRENT  HIGHWATER SYSTEM
USAGE  USAGE  LIMIT
MAXPROCSYS 26 34   3600
MAXUIDS 2  4200
MAXPTYS 1  3800
MAXMMAPAREA 0  0  40960
MAXSHAREPAGES1336   1766 131072
IPCMSGNIDS 26 26500
IPCSEMNIDS  0  0500
IPCSHMNIDS  0  1500
IPCSHMSPAGES0  1 262144
IPCMSGQBYTES  ---  8 2147483647
IPCMSGQMNUM   ---  2  1
IPCSHMMPAGES  ---  0  25600
SHRLIBRGNSIZE   0  0   67108864
SHRLIBMAXPAGES  0  0   8192
IPCMSGQBYTES  ---  8 2147483647



Re: TS7700: is there a z/OS interface to the TS3500 tape library?

2012-07-05 Thread Minoru Massaki
Hello Kees-san,

As far as I know, cleaner cartridges in TS3500 (3494) is NOT belong to
any Logical Lbrary of TS3500 which is used for TS7740 or IBM 3494/VTS.
As Wood-san mentioned,  D SMS,LIBRARY(lib-name),DETAIL command for
TS3500 does NOT contain cleaner cartridge information.
So OP0008 and OP0401 messages are issued only for 3494 tape library,
not for TS3500.

You may have to use TS3500 CLI interface to get cleaner cartridge
information for the TS3500.

If you find nice way to know TS3500 cleaner cartridge information from
MVS, please let us know.

Minoru Massaki  (M*M)


2012/7/5 Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com:
 Mike Wood mww...@ntlworld.com wrote in message
 news:9338247828173738.wa.mwwoodntlworld@listserv.ua.edu...
 Kees,  I dont know of good interface.  The books do mention a CLI
 which is available via Java.
 http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/ts3500tl/v1r0/index.jsp?topic=%
 2Fcom.ibm.storage.ts3500.doc%2Fipg_3584_cli.html

 OAM provides possible alternatives:
 1. D SMS LIBRARY(),DETAIL output contains a status line when there are
 no cleaner cartridges.
 2. The library issues an alert to the host systems when something
 happens with cleaner cartridges, these are issued by OAM with CBR3750I,
 and contains things like OP0008 * The library is out of CST/ECCST
 cleaner cartridges. There are many alerts related to cleaner carts, see
 here
 http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/ts7700/cust/index.jsp?topic=%2F
 com.ibm.storage.ts7740.doc%2Fts7740_ua_operator_info.html

 You could use automation to detect and parse the message and create
 your own alert to ops.

 Mike Wood


 Mike,

 I was looking for warning operations before it really becomes a problem,
 e.g. when the number of cleaning cartridges falls below 3. Especially
 for the remote cluster, so they can plan a trip to insert new ones.

 I have now pointed them to the GUI, where they can regularly check the
 status of the cleaning cartridges.

 I will look for automating and emailing them:
 OP0008 W Media * The library is out of CST/ECCST cleaner cartridges.

 And maybe also:
 OP0401 M Media * x cleaner cartridge (yy) was ejected due to
 maximum use

 Thanks for your investigations,
 Kees.

 
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Re: Converting to SMS for the first time

2012-07-05 Thread Ed Gould

On Jul 4, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Ron Hawkins wrote:
--- 
SNIP---
TMP: truly temporary datasets, and not transitory datasets passed  
from job to job


DBS: any dataset allocated by a DBMS (IMS, DB2, IDMS, etc) or an  
OLTP (CICS, etc). Some datasets may also be used by batch jobs, but  
if it is part of a database at any point then it goes here.


--- 
SNIP--


All good advice.
The issue in TMP is that some software vendors use  type datasets  
as perm and then rename them magically. No they shouldn't do it and  
you can argue with them for years and they won't budget. These  
vendors are nightmares and a half.


I don't know if its still true (probably is based on their past  
behavior) a major DBMS refuses to acknowledge that their data sets  
are unmovable. Sure they are moveable if you use their utilities but  
thats the standard argument you get from these people


-SNIP-
There is a redbook (or there used to be one that gave some good  
advice about converting).


Ever since IBM forced the issue on some datasets companies are  
finally (again) eyeing the possibility and Liz, you are one of them.  
I am mixed about the idea of forcing everyone as there are good  
benefits from going SMS. There are a few vendors out there that are  
inhibiting the conversion. I think the users have to ride them really  
hard to see the error of their ways.


Ed

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