sto...@interchip.de (David Stokes) writes:
No, that wasn't me. Not that I really dispute such facts, just the assumption
that anyone could have done much better at the time (and also provided an OS
that normal people could use fairly easily).
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Oh no, time to talk to the network team, which is always painful :D
I think the first hostname in the table is wrong ddelivery03-bld.dhe.ibm.com.
Looks like an extra d on the front.
Worth noting that the new IP addresses are additional. The old IP addresses
are still used for other delivery
I imagine a tool to extract particular types of SMF data, maybe summarize and
export as Xml for further processing could be pretty useful. That would not
necessarily be an excessive load on Xml tools, although maybe one
underestimates the processing power of a modern PC. Certainly processing
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:00:47 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:
... ???
Lol - well, what followed didn't transcribe too well.
Interesting product - some time ago I looked at knocking up some C code to ship
RMF data from the Distributor down to a Linux client so I could do a poor
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:21:44 -0500, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
This is a snippet from a REXX CGI that has been running for a few years:
/* get the POST data into the qs variable */
qs=
do while(lines())
snip
Thanks for the info John, it looks to me like cgiparse was
BMC do the SMF to XML in their performance product, that I played with a few
years ago.
Personally I prefer Barry's solution, as it just does it as is without XML, but
I am biased having used it for more years than I care to remember.
Paul G...
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In
E36DC330434FBA4ABA45590D5370A88B076C4765@INTERCHIP-SBS.interchip.local,
on 07/24/2012
at 12:19 PM, David Stokes sto...@interchip.de said:
Yeah, right. Much better to restrict it to government and
corporations who never abuse things.
That's your proposal, not mine, TYVM. What would have
In 500ec8bf.5020...@acm.org, on 07/24/2012
at 11:09 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:
That certainly would have been nice, but I'm not convinced anyone
at the time understood the potential scope of those problems,
They understood enough to warn against it, whether or not they
In
cae1xxdher2jjpx0cyzr+ku8g-6afdj7n4q13ww7g+jbe-hx...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/24/2012
at 04:09 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
The scientific community made early and significant use of the
DARPA predecessor of today's Internet, and almost none of the
problems that afflict us today
In 9251321842665626.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/24/2012
at 10:39 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
And remembering that Rexx considers lower case characters special.
Not quite, but the default value of an uninitialized variable is the
upper case name.
Do these
That's your proposal, not mine, TYVM
You're welcome. My proposal being quite ironically intended, of course.
One really has to ask however what exactly
In an anarchic fashion that opened us up to all sorts of network abuse.
actually means or what the proposed solution would actually look
No. Starting ten years lat(t)er is your concept, not mine
Well no, not mine. I wasn't responding to you here.
I like your fantasy view of how things might have been, though.
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:21:44 -0500, McKown, John
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Otoh, without
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) writes:
What, no mention of CP/M-86? I don't think that MP/M ever had a x86
version. I do remember running Pick on my XT clone. Now that was a
weird beastie. And you totally ignored things like the Amiga. I loved
what I saw of that software. I wish
I can certainly see some value in remotely shutting down PCs, assuming one can
be absolutely certain that it is a legitimate operation.
Of course, whoever has this power probably won't stop there. And then again
how will one get back on the Net? I see a host of other problems with such
John,
I agree, there seems to be no sense of responsibility.
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Jul 24, 2012, at 4:09 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
The scientific community made early and significant use of the DARPA
predecessor of today's Internet, and almost none of the
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) writes:
What, no mention of CP/M-86? I don't think that MP/M ever had a x86
version. I do remember running Pick on my XT clone. Now that was a
weird beastie. And you totally ignored things like the Amiga. I loved
what I saw of that software. I wish
On 24 Jul 2012 14:43:08 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
For your awareness (this information is provided in lots of other places, but
I wanted to repeat it here):
SMP/E Internet Service Retrieval and Shopz download servers will change
hostname and public internet IP addresses on
Otoh, without Windows, who really would have been using the Internet
Pretty much everybody who is now. Without windows they'd be running,
e.g., OS/2, MacOS, Linux.
Quite funny you'd say that. Now I was also around in those times. I remember
struggling to get TCP/IP to work on OS/2 for our
For Panvalet/PanAPT, in addition to SCLM you might (also) consider IBM
Rational ClearCase or Rational Team Concert. IBM has three solid choices in
that general category. RDz and ISPF work with all of them.
If you're a CICS Transaction Server shop then CICS Configuration Manager
may be relevant if
Attempting to connect to the archives from my
employer's WAN, I get:
Compliance Alert:URL - http://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=ibm-main;
Category - Malicious Sites
And access to the archives is unbearably slow to
impossible from elsewhere.
-- gil
I got to the archive url without any problem.
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Mitch,
As an example, IBM does not have an internal solution but instead uses other
vendors.
I dont know where you get that information. My recent past and present
experience is that IBM has a strong presence in this area - The SMPO (Systems
Migration Project Office) provides strong and
Does anyone know if the FFSTCKPT, FFSTLOGx AND FFSTDUMP data sets must be
unique? I always thought they must be setup by system... but I can't find
anything to confirm or deny whether they are unique or shared.
Rob Schramm
Senior Systems Consultant
Imperium Group
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:12:14 +, David Stokes wrote:
Otoh, without Windows, who really would have been using the Internet
Pretty much everybody who is now. Without windows they'd be running,
e.g., OS/2, MacOS, Linux.
I remember struggling to get TCP/IP to work on OS/2 for our
P/390. So much
In
E36DC330434FBA4ABA45590D5370A88B076C4A24@INTERCHIP-SBS.interchip.local,
on 07/25/2012
at 12:25 PM, David Stokes sto...@interchip.de said:
No. Starting ten years lat(t)er is your concept, not mine
Well no, not mine. I wasn't responding to you here.
Well, you were responding to Joel C.
In
E36DC330434FBA4ABA45590D5370A88B076C49FF@INTERCHIP-SBS.interchip.local,
on 07/25/2012
at 12:21 PM, David Stokes sto...@interchip.de said:
One really has to ask however what exactly
In an anarchic fashion that opened us up to all sorts of network abuse.
actually means
It means not
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea0115baa1...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 07/25/2012
at 08:02 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
What, no mention of CP/M-86?
It never had enough market share; DR-DOS would be more likely.
And you totally ignored things like the Amiga.
Did
The Cookoo's Egg by Cliff Stoll
Google it... PDF
Damn good read.
Jay Campbell
IBM OS Support Section
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:12:01 +, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:
Does anybody have a sample REXX that can be shared to either scp or ssh to
remote Unix from TSO?
I have seen JCL to that effect using BPXBATCH but I have not tried it since I
need the REXX.
Crudely (error recovery is left as an
Paul:
WHOH there... SMF is an issue but the MVS control blocks (especially
the TSOe ones) are frozen in stone. While I would not want to talk on
IBM's behalf the proverbial hell would have to freeze over before any
TSO/e control block would/could be changed.
Ed
On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:45
Chris,
I read that section of the manual. However, I don't think we are
referencing the same dump data sets. The book is not remotely
specific in regards to the treatment of these DD statements in the
EPWFFST proc. I think that the section you are referencing are
dynamic dumps that are in
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:13:50 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
And access to the archives is unbearably slow to impossible from elsewhere.
Likewise profundo.
Getting a full listing of (this) month on the web interface can take days (of
attempting to refresh the page) to accomplish.
And I though it
On 7/12/2012 3:57 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:27:37 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:
Using the ST(atus) display instead of I, H, or O generally shows all the info
you want.
However, IIRC, it does not show SYSOUT dynamically allocated from a z/OS UNIX
(USS)
session.
On 7/13/2012 5:47 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In 6700504004248585.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/12/2012
at 10:41 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
TYPRUN=SCAN's checking is a bad joke. IIRC, it fails to report
errors as fundamental as DSNAME 44
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