Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread David Crayford
I can see nothing obviously wrong with your code. Because the function is inlined there could be a subtle bug near where the function is called. Can you reproduce the problem with a simple test driver? FWIW, I implemented ffs64() like this. static inline int ffs64( uint64_t word ) { if (

Re: ACS routine imbed/include function?

2013-07-22 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Thanks, I will have a look at it. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 17:08 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ACS routine imbed/include function? Also here

Re: DCOLLECT QUESTION -RESULTS PUZZLING -

2013-07-22 Thread David Devine
Hi Esmee, It is a little convoluted, but if you follow the code in the job deck, you can see it calls ACBQBAR7, check that code and you find that it calls ACBQADR3 and in there you find this:- DO WHILE(eof = 'no') dcolrec = rec.1

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread David Crayford
On 22/07/2013 12:17 PM, Charles Mills wrote: # 0 and NOINLINE TEST or 2 and INLINE NOTEST # OPT(0) NOINLINE TEST GONUMBER OPT(2) INLINE NOTEST NOGONUMBER COMPRESS Are you concerned about the size of your load modules? I can understand that in C++ code that uses STL

Re: [MVS-OE] Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread Tom Russell
Well I think it is a bug. the following source: #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h #include stdint.h #include string.h int main( int argc, char **argv ) { uint64_t n = 0x0034LLU; uint32_t b = n 32; printf( %08X %08X\n, b); } With OPT(0) it generated: LARL

Re: [MVS-OE] Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread David Crayford
The bug is in your code. Your only passing one argument to printf(). On 22/07/2013, at 8:38 PM, Tom Russell tom_russ...@sympatico.ca wrote: Well I think it is a bug. the following source: #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h #include stdint.h #include string.h int main( int argc, char

PSO Dataspace of JES2

2013-07-22 Thread Mil Hashoul
Hi, I would like to retrive information reside in the PSO dataspace of JES2, I have done the following: USING HCCT,R5 MVC WSAJTOK,CCTJSTKN ALESERV ADD, add STOKEN to ALET X STOKEN=WSAJTOK,

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread retired-mainfra...@q.com
Are you coding in C or C++? static_cast is a C++ feature. - Original Message - From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 5:36:01 PM Subject: Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem Thanks. How would I solve this with a

Re: [MVS-OE] Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread retired-mainfra...@q.com
Since the evaluated expression is automatically converted to the type of the left operand aspart of the assignment process, what purpose does the cast serve? - Original Message - From: David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:06:37

Re: [MVS-OE] Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread John McKown
I use them so that the reader of the code knows for certain sure that I did intend to change from one precision to another, with possible loss of information. Also, I like to compile with all messages enabled and still get no warnings. I do a fair amount of unnecessary coding to get an RC of 0,

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread retired-mainfra...@q.com
You remember incorrectly. The expr4essions of the right are evaluated accoriding to the normal rules. Only the final result is coerced into the type of the left operand. - Original Message - From: Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday,

Re: Encryption of data written to disks FICON channels

2013-07-22 Thread Phil Smith
R.S. asked: BTW: What's wrong with whole disk encryption? Why field-level encryption is better? IMHO it addresses different needs. Arye Shemer wrote: First I 'll try to explain the reasoning behind my request. 1. Encryption of 'Data In Rest' is a requirement by local PCI regulation 2.

Re: PSO Dataspace of JES2

2013-07-22 Thread Rob Scott
Ouch. There are quite a few issues with what you are trying to do : (1) Adding the STOKEN of a foreign ASID to your PASN-AL or DU-AL using CHKEAX=NO is violating z/OS system integrity. (2) The ALET that a foreign ASID uses to address data in a non-common dataspace will be completely different

Re: [MVS-OE] Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread David Crayford
No purpose at all. Merely clutching at straws trying to circumvent Charles rather baffling problem. It's not uncommon to see casts like that but it is unnecessary. Of course going the other way does require casts for conversion. unsigned int anUInt = 0xc000; long long aLongLong = (long

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread Charles Mills
C++ per OP. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of retired-mainfra...@q.com Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 6:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem Are you

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread Charles Mills
Update: - parentheses did not fix the problem: testWord = (valueToTest = 32); - splitting it into two instructions did not fix the problem: valueToTest = 32; testWord = valueToTest; - recompiling just the single module with Opt(0) rather than Opt(2) did fix the problem. Everything else 100%

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 17:03:55 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: begin extract It is at the compiler's and optimizer's discretion to decide the order of execution for code that the C++ standard does not specifically define. This includes overlapping execution. /end extract and this may be conceded. What

Re: [MVS-OE] Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread Charles Mills
With the constant 0x0034... as a literal in the code the compiler is able to short-circuit the shift entirely. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Russell Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 5:39 AM To:

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Before complaining somewhere about a compiler error, I would strongly recommend to take a look at the assembly listing. Not one look, but better: have another person take a second look. It once happened to me that by looking at the assembly listing I believed to see the evidence of a compiler

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Ed, That is a very small subset these days. AFAIK - OBJ Decks from compilers, TSO XMIT datasets, TRSMAIN (though I think this is 6k) and a few others are still dependent on 3120 blksize. However, I would think allowing your users to specify BLKSIZE=0 would be a benefit. Unless you have one of

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread retired-mainfra...@q.com
The right operand in this case is the result of evaluating the expression. The quoted text is not meant to imply that operands are converted before the right hand expression is evaluated. If that were the case, then int x = 14.0/2.1; would evaluate to 7 which is demonstrably not the case.

BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Ed Jaffe
A customer (mildly) complained thatsome of our product allocations still use BLKSIZE=3120. I vaguely remember trying to change all of them to BLKSIZE=0 many years ago (probably before OS/390) and running into some issues with certain IBM utilities. Unfortunately, I can't remember the

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Skip Robinson
Last time I explored this issue, the problem went beyond 'help'. In many cases of 'product allocated' files, existing output blocksize was overridden by 3120 regardless of how it was set ahead of time. I really don't think that BLKSIZE=0 will cause a problem. You just may not get what you

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/22/2013 9:28 AM, Charles Mills wrote: I took the giant leap several years ago and stopped using 3120 for TSO XMIT. I hard-code 27920. Not as wonderful as 0, but better than 3120. Several years now with no issues. Good to know. I suppose for errors in help, rather than in the manual, I've

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread John P Kalinich
Gilbert has a zap on CBT file 183 to overlay 3120 with zero in the OUTPUT DCB of XMIT. It may have to be reworked. Regards, John K IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 07/22/2013 11:28:26 AM: From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Date:

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-07-22 18:08, Ed Jaffe pisze: A customer (mildly) complained thatsome of our product allocations still use BLKSIZE=3120. I vaguely remember trying to change all of them to BLKSIZE=0 many years ago (probably before OS/390) and running into some issues with certain IBM utilities.

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
That is another case, because the right side operands are not ints. For ints, I saw references that all operands are promoted to ints, if they can be represented as an int (that is true for chars, shorts etc.). Don't know for sure about longs, for example; if long differs in size from int, and

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Thomas Conley
On 7/22/2013 12:08 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: A customer (mildly) complained thatsome of our product allocations still use BLKSIZE=3120. I vaguely remember trying to change all of them to BLKSIZE=0 many years ago (probably before OS/390) and running into some issues with certain IBM utilities.

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Charles Mills
Hmm. I *may* need to take back what I said. It looks like for XMIT I specify 27920 but it forces 3120. Would need to do more research and no time at the moment. I *know* I tell customers to allocate a file 27920, upload from the PC, and run RECEIVE against it, so I know that works -- or at least

Re: NFS automount help requested

2013-07-22 Thread Neil Duffee
Take this with a large bucketful of salt 'cause I haven't got my own automount set up yet but someone will likely stomp on it if it's blatantly incorrect. I think I recall (from feb) that you can't include directories in the name option ie. name cics/wsbind is not valid. I believe you have to

Re: Partition a VTS 7720

2013-07-22 Thread Mike Wood
Jerry, The partitioning available to the host systems is only by category numbers. You dont have to partition, but reasons to create 2 partitions in your case include: - tape management system - if not a single VMF shared between test/prod - TCDB - this must be shared to avoid conflicts of

Re: Partition a VTS 7720

2013-07-22 Thread Mike Wood
Radoslaw, #4) rmm use of REJECT ANYUSE had some limitations. You now have the option of using PRTITION statements in rmm parmlib for more effective partitioning. Use in conjunction with OPENRULE. Mike -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Mike Schwab
3120 * 15 = 46800 / 55996 = 83.58% of maximum. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Hmm. I *may* need to take back what I said. It looks like for XMIT I specify 27920 but it forces 3120. Would need to do more research and no time at the moment. I *know* I

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/22/2013 10:41 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Hmm. I *may* need to take back what I said. It looks like for XMIT I specify 27920 but it forces 3120. Would need to do more research and no time at the moment. This finding is consistent with John Kalinich's post where he describes the availability

Re: IBM getting out of the Ed business?

2013-07-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 23:26:36 -0500, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net wrote: Big Blue cedes software and systems training biz to partners http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2013/07/16/ ibm_software_systems_training_channel/ *IF* this is true... is Z/os may not be far behind. Eh? What do you mean

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Charles Mills
83.58% is hardly the end of the world IMHO. 27920 x 2 ~= 99.7% Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 11:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: BLKSIZE=3120 3120 * 15

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Duffy Nightingale
Hello, I see another developer on here. And we send our product out using TSO XMIT. Which gives rise to a question. I saw some techie state that he would not install a product unless he could use SMP/E. Is this something us developers should explore or is it a big headache that is not

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Jim Mulder
If there are any restrictions, they should be APAR'ed. 3120, 6160, 6144, etc. is SO 20th century. It's amazing to me how many IBM and OEM products still ship these crappy blocksizes. It's why I submitted a SHARE requirement to have AMATERSE support SDB. Isn't it ironic that a utility

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-22 Thread retired-mainfra...@q.com
When performing integer (not int) arithmetic with integer operands of rank lower than int, the operands will be promoted to either int or unsigned int. When adding two short or two char or a char and a short, both operands will be promoted to int before the addition and the result will be an

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Dave Salt
A few months ago I assisted a customer who was having difficulty installing SimpList. The installation instructions specify the sequential data set the XMIT files are uploaded to MUST be allocated as BLKSIZE=3120, but the installer specified BLKSIZE=0. I don't remember exactly what problem this

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread John McKown
I, personally, as a z/OS system programmer tend to like SMP/E. IBM has made installation simple via ShopzSeries. I put in my order. I eventually get an email saying it is ready. I log on to get the download information that I need and run a single SMP/E job which downloads and sets it up

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Duffy Nightingale
Interesting. Thanks much! Duffy Nightingale Sound Software Printing, Inc. www.soundsoftware.us du...@soundsoftware.us Phone: 360.385.3456 Fax: 973.201.8921 The information in this e-mail, and any attachment therein is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Charles Mills
FTP has some bizarre default, something like RECFM=U, BLKSIZE=511. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dave Salt Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: BLKSIZE=3120 A few

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
We prefer to have SMP/E installs for all our program products and specifically ask when researching new products to be selected. Jerry Whitteridge Lead Systems Programmer Safeway Inc. 925 951 4184 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Gibney, Dave
Small product with just a few libraries and fairly stand-alone is ok via XMIT. Especially if it is mostly maintained by replacement. Anything more complex is helped by SMP/E, but even with IBM (and CA) when done with SMP/E, there is still usually half or more of the install doing configurations

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:32:37 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote: AMATERSE assigns a blocksize of 6144, which was a reasonable thing to do when AMATERSE was designed (before the existence of SDB). If you explicitly assign a blocksize when you allocate the data set, AMATERSE will use your blocksize. ITYM

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:16:00 -0700, Duffy Nightingale wrote: we send our product out using TSO XMIT. Which gives rise to a question. I saw some techie state that he would not install a product unless he could use SMP/E. Is this something us developers should explore or is it a big headache

SR Policy

2013-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I just got a reply to an SR asking for more information about the problem, then adding the text: Please also let me know what impact this issue has on your day to day business so we can understand the situation better. I look forward to your reply and clarification. Thanks! Am I to

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Dave Salt
Tom Marchant said: AFAIK, Innovation (FDR, etc.) still ships their products without SMP/E, and their installation is (IMO) one of the best. IIRC, Quickref is another that is not installed with SMP/E. SimpList can be added to that list as well. One reason is because many developers want

SMP/E vs. NON SMPE Installs (Was BLKSIZE=3120)

2013-07-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Just taking this to a new thread Personally I prefer SMP/E installs. It provides the following Ease of installation Ease of verifying Maint Levels Ease of upgrades or phase outs. When I have NON SMP/E installs they tend to be just simple IEBCOPY from here to here. Then it is up to me to

Re: SR Policy

2013-07-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have seen this question with most vendors. What is the impact to your environment. How critical is this to be fixed. I think it helps them to triage the problem and put it in the queue where it will get the correct attention. Is this a SHOP DOWN or a Minor inconvenience. Lizette

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:41:12 -0400, Dave Salt wrote: SimpList can be added to that list as well. One reason is because many developers want to try SimpList by installing it in their own private libraries, and they don't have access to SMP/E. Shame on IBM for transmogrifying SMP/E into a

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Ed Gould
Ed: Some time ago (before the binder IIRC) the input into the link editor had a max block size of 3200 (if memory serves me). I think with the binder the restriction has been removed. Ed On Jul 22, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Charles Mills wrote: I took the giant leap several years ago and

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:53:01 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:35:49 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: IMO if a vendor doesn't do their SMP/E packaging correctly, it is better that they not bother. Where can I find some Rules of Thumb; an SMP/E style checker? I'm not aware of

Re: SMP/E vs. NON SMPE Installs (Was BLKSIZE=3120)

2013-07-22 Thread Ed Gould
Lizette: Well said. In the past 40+ years I have done all types of installs. SMPE in the end simplifies installation. I have frequently rejected a product just because that it is not installed via SMPE. I have seen everything from an IEBCOPY to quite complicated installation procedures.

Re: SMP/E vs. NON SMPE Installs (Was BLKSIZE=3120)

2013-07-22 Thread Jim Thomas
Folks, Does anybody have any guidelines for making a product SMP/E installable ??. Yes, I've been thru the manuals but what I don't find are recommendations and or 'gotchas' ... Any advice and or direction would be appreciated. Kind Regards. Jim -Original Message- From: IBM

SMP/E conventions (was: BLKSIZE=3120)

2013-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:51:51 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: Where can I find some Rules of Thumb; an SMP/E style checker? I'm not aware of either. There is the Packaging Rules manual, but there is much that is not covered there. It is focused primarily on correct SYSMOD construction. Some

Re: SR Policy

2013-07-22 Thread Charles Mills
Right, severity. Charles Composed on a mobile: please excuse my brevity Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: I have seen this question with most vendors. What is the impact to your environment. How critical is this to be fixed. I think it helps them to triage the problem and

Re: SR Policy

2013-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:48:33 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: I have seen this question with most vendors. What is the impact to your environment. How critical is this to be fixed. I think it helps them to triage the problem and put it in the queue where it will get the correct attention.

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 09:08:12 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: A customer (mildly) complained thatsome of our product allocations still use BLKSIZE=3120. I vaguely remember trying to change all of them to BLKSIZE=0 many years ago (probably before OS/390) and running into some issues with certain IBM

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 16:51 -0500 on 07/22/2013, Tom Marchant wrote about Re: BLKSIZE=3120: Most PTFs should be able to be applied, restored and applied again without issues. This is an issue since the design of RESTORE is broken due to its poor handling of SUPS/PREs If I can Apply a SYSMOD I should be able

DFHSMDATASETSERIALIZATION | USERDATASETSERIALIZATION with DFHSM and z/OS 1.11

2013-07-22 Thread Gibney, Dave
I run with USERDATASETSERIALIZATION and since I have many potentially multi volume PS datasets (Stripped/Extended in default dataclass), I really need to continue this. I also do EXPIREDDATASETS(SCRATCH). I also have disk datasets created with EXPDT=98nnn because I implemented TMM long

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Jim Mulder
Long prior to the advent of SDB, I had formed the habit of omitting BLKSIZE in my Rexx EXECs. The Rexx function library was smart: it chose good BLKSIZEs and/or I didn't much care about fractional deviations from absolute optimality. And, for all I knew (and didn't care) it adapted well to

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread CM Poncelet
You can still use native SMP/E in batch to retain control of your system installs/maintenance: just do CBIPO instead of IBM's 'recommended' installs (the distribution tapes should still be in the original format). IBM had been trying to force us to use their SMP/E 'dialogs' since the mid/late

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 025801ce86f6$64021d20$2c065760$@mindspring.com, on 07/22/2013 at 09:13 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said: AFAIK - OBJ Decks from compilers, TSO XMIT datasets, TRSMAIN (though I think this is 6k) and a few others are still dependent on 3120 blksize. My recollection is that

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 7455665327418361.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/22/2013 at 04:51 PM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com said: This is not likely an exhaustive list. o Don't use RELFILE for ++ APAR or ++ PTF -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 00a401ce870f$e7dd43e0$b797cba0$@soundsoftware.us, on 07/22/2013 at 12:16 PM, Duffy Nightingale du...@soundsoftware.us said: I see another developer on here. And we send our product out using TSO XMIT. Which gives rise to a question. I saw some techie state that he would not install a

Re: SR Policy

2013-07-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 326064299181.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/22/2013 at 03:41 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Am I to infer that IBM no longer believes in repairing defects simply because it's the right thing to do? I would infer that IBM wants to know whether it warrants

Re: BLKSIZE=3120

2013-07-22 Thread Ed Gould
Jim, Good memory. My memory is a bit different (not by much though). DFP 3.1 first offered SDB TSOe (I think) at 2.1 ++ many PTF's for Rexx . I recall having not to implement XA for REXX (not being fully ready and SWA (above) not being fully supported by vendors. In one case I had to change

Re: DCOLLECT QUESTION -RESULTS PUZZLING -

2013-07-22 Thread David Crayford
On 21/07/2013 7:15 PM, John McKown wrote: Such as? I will grant that REXX is old. But so are PERL, awk, and many other UNIX tools. Him, perhaps lua. But there is a port of lua to z/OS. A person here was kind enough to send it to me. If anybody is interested in Lua drop me a line. I've been

Re: SMP/E vs. NON SMPE Installs (Was BLKSIZE=3120)

2013-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:25:23 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: This is an issue since the design of RESTORE is broken due to its poor handling of SUPS/PREs If I can Apply a SYSMOD I should be able to restore it without needing to also restore any SYSMODs it PREs. IOW: If it PREs SYSMOD1 which has