Who is Lagging Whom? (Was: SYSIN in PROC -- technique)

2013-09-04 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/3/2013 3:15 PM, Clark Morris wrote: On 3 Sep 2013 12:42:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Be aware, use of system symbols in JCL is supported in JES2 in z/OS 2.1, NOT JES3. Another example of where the more expensive JES lags its cheaper brother. That cuts both ways...

Re: Who is Lagging Whom? (Was: SYSIN in PROC -- technique)

2013-09-04 Thread efinnell15
Eddie Stanky once got ejected for taking three smokin fast ball strikes from Bob Feller wheeled around and said 'Mr. Ump that last one sounded high!' I though that went away when they move CI back to MVS? In a message dated 09/04/13 02:24:00 Central Daylight Time,

Re: RACF Database protection

2013-09-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-09-04 04:32, FRANCIS SOUSA pisze: Ask your network guys to restrict FTP, maybe use ACL ? It doesn't help. The problem is in READ to the dataset not the ability to use *one of existing* transfer methods. Protect resources, not the tools. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland --

Re: RACF Database protection

2013-09-04 Thread Costin Enache
It may not be APARable. Even if you fix the bug, what do you do with the old password phrases? Maybe update the RACF database with a secure hash value once the user logs in (to add the previously discarded hash bytes), but the system cannot know if the correct password phrase has been used (and

Re: Syncsort v1.4 doesn't support Tape sorting - Need help !

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 01:41:14 -0700, Roger Steyn wrote: In the new release v1.4 , it no longer supports tape sorting . Hence it becomes necessary that i have to identify all the jobs which are currently using this feature and have them converted before going further Have you considered changing

Re: Currently dispatched TCB in SRB mode

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 15:28:23 -0400, Micheal Butz wrote: Is there a way of knowing the currently Dispatched TCB for the target Address Space in SRB mode as PSATOLD Is zero in SRB mode What do you mean by that and why do you want to know? As others have said, when your SRB is running on your CP,

ACS routine question.

2013-09-04 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Hello, I always found it difficult to find what I am looking for in the ACS routine documentation. I can check if a text keyword was not filled in in the allocation request, e.g.: For information, services and offers, please visit

ACS routine question.

2013-09-04 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Hello, I always find it difficult to find what I am looking for in the ACS routine documentation. I can check if a text keyword was not filled in in the allocation request, e.g.: WHEN(DATACLAS = ''). How do I check if a numerical keyword was not in filled e.g. BLKSIZE? WHEN(BLKSIZE =

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:30:28 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: upgrade to JES2. I have worked in a shop that had both JES2 and JES3 and I appreciated some of the things that I could do easily on JES3 that were difficult or impossible on JES2. For example, Dependent Job Control (DJC) networks.

Re: Syncsort v1.4 doesn't support Tape sorting - Need help !

2013-09-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CCC717517FE24B23A126DDC3AE363D20@ericnbPC, on 09/03/2013 at 05:01 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com said: The 2 1410's actually shared a 1310 (I think) disk drive. 1301 or 1302. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We

Re: ACS routine question.

2013-09-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Since the variable is defined as BLKSIZE The numeric value for the block size specified on the DD statement, dynamic allocation, or TSO ALLOCATE, ranging from 0 - 2147483647 (KB). Type: Numeric Max value: 2147483647 I am not sure you can test for null. But try testing for less

Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-09-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caarmm9tsfrlc3zzj2fspy8kmu90crt8j714oxgvijlz7q4y...@mail.gmail.com, on 09/03/2013 at 10:43 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: But Dynalloc did not exist until MVS, Not as a supported facility for user code, but it was there for use by DAIR in TSO. As I recall, the interface was

OT - Lenovo CEO Shares Bonus

2013-09-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
http://money.msn.com/now/post--lenovo-boss-gives-workers-millions?gt1=33002; ocid=ansmony11 Imagine your boss handing you one month's pay out of his own pocket. That's happening for the second straight year at Lenovo Group, where CEO Yang Yuanqing (pictured) plans to give away $3.25 million

[OT-AD?] EMC Product Launch Webcast

2013-09-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
This might be of interest to some on this list. Lizette New EMC Storage Arrays, Systems Software-Defined Storage Speed IT Transformation EMC VNX and VSPEX Systems Transform Virtualized Infrastructure; EMC ViPR Software-Defined Storage Provides Bridge To Next-Generation

Re: ACS routine question.

2013-09-04 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler wrote: I am not sure you can test for null. Seemed true for numeric values after some RTFM. But try testing for less than zero (this is just a WAG) When (BLKSIZE 0) Then ... Interesting. It could work. Alternatively: Kees Vernooij wrote: How do I check if a numerical

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Sylvester
On 09/04/2013 03:03 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:30:28 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: upgrade to JES2. I have worked in a shop that had both JES2 and JES3 and I appreciated some of the things that I could do easily on JES3 that were difficult or impossible on JES2. For

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Victor Gil
But SYSPARM can be passed to Assembler from any JES: // //* SUBSTITUTE VARIABLES BY ASSEMBLING 'PUNCH SYSPARM' in x.TEST.SOURCE(PARMTODD) //

Re: ACS routine question.

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 14:58:05 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: I can check if a text keyword was not filled in in the allocation request, e.g.: WHEN(DATACLAS = ''). But this distingush between an explicitly coded DATACLAS='' and DATACLAS not coded, or likewise fail to distingush? (Or is the

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1001144189627242.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 09/03/2013 at 07:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: It's logically impossible for JES3 setup to exploit or even accommodate the newer features of JCL, even dating back to IF...THEN...ELSE...ENDIF. Nonsense. --

Re: RACF Database protection

2013-09-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 September 2013 04:07, Costin Enache e_cos...@yahoo.com wrote: It may not be APARable. Even if you fix the bug, what do you do with the old password phrases? Maybe update the RACF database with a secure hash value once the user logs in (to add the previously discarded hash bytes), but the

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:27:32 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 09/03/2013 at 07:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: It's logically impossible for JES3 setup to exploit or even accommodate the newer features of JCL, even dating back to IF...THEN...ELSE...ENDIF. Nonsense. OK. At least

Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-09-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 September 2013 09:41, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote: But Dynalloc did not exist until MVS, Not as a supported facility for user code, but it was there for use by DAIR in TSO. As I recall, the interface was different. There was an SVC 99 in MVT, but it wasn't

Re: OT - Lenovo CEO Shares Bonus

2013-09-04 Thread Kirk Wolf
I guess the point of the article is how magnanimous their CEO is, but to me it sounds like a good-news / bad-news joke :-) --- The GOOD news: your boss giving you one month's pay from his bonus --- The BAD news: you make $325 a month I would imagine that the CEO still ekes out (according to his

Re: OT - Lenovo CEO Shares Bonus

2013-09-04 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Kirk Wolf wrote: I guess the point of the article is how magnanimous their CEO is, but to me it sounds like a good-news / bad-news joke :-) --- The GOOD news: your boss giving you one month's pay from his bonus --- The BAD news: you make $325 a month --- The UGLY news: When receiving that

Re: OT - Lenovo CEO Shares Bonus

2013-09-04 Thread Ron Wells
I'd take 2wks pay...better than nothing...and for someone in that positionand it will not happen here---to spread that must around is helping loyalty and moral.. makes sense ... From: Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 09/04/2013 11:37 AM Subject:

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/4/2013 8:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:27:32 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 09/03/2013 at 07:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: It's logically impossible for JES3 setup to exploit or even accommodate the newer features of JCL, even dating back to

Re: Who is Lagging Whom? (Was: SYSIN in PROC -- technique)

2013-09-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 89229058.74b4.44a3.800c.8809e9102...@aol.com, on 09/04/2013 at 02:58 AM, efinnell15 efinnel...@aol.com said: I though that went away when they move CI back to MVS? MVS just split the interpretation code of the R/I into separate Converter and Interpreter functions. Spelling errors in

Re: Task to subtask communications

2013-09-04 Thread Kirk Wolf
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:16 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/09/2013 4:47 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: A little off topic, but notice how msgrcv is SRB enabled, but not msgsnd or msgget or msgctl ? PIty :-( AFAIK, all message queue services are task only. I agree it's a

TS7700 - Allocation Control to a Single Cluster within a Grid

2013-09-04 Thread frank.bonad...@gs.com
Has anyone on the list successfully implemented Scratch allocation control to individual clusters (distributed libraries) within a single composite library ? We are planning to convert B20s to 7740s and would like to retain the same allocation controls to the individual clusters once the 7740s

Re: Sortlessness?

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(I'm trying to move this to IBM-MAIN; it really doesn't belong on ASSEMBLER-LIST. And not trimming quoted material as much as I usually would.) On 2013-09-04 10:29, Tony Harminc wrote: On 1 September 2013 00:51, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On 2013-08-31, at 08:55, John Gilmore wrote: ... They use

Re: Needed Killing series

2013-09-04 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 08/26/2013 12:33 AM, efinnell15 wrote: One of our erudite consultants has retired and turned to fiction sort of as a release. Anyway, not so much mainframe as 'computer center' politics. Available from Amazon and Barnes Noble just search on Bill Fitts author. There's three so far and

Re: Task to subtask communications

2013-09-04 Thread David Crayford
On 5/09/2013 3:38 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:16 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/09/2013 4:47 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: A little off topic, but notice how msgrcv is SRB enabled, but not msgsnd or msgget or msgctl ? PIty :-( AFAIK, all message queue

Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-09-04 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:41 -0400 on 09/04/2013, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?): True, but PASS is still intended for the situation where there is a receiving DD in a subsequent step. Within the same step, KEEP and PASS are equivalent. Except for one MAJOR difference - PASS

Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-09-04 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 23:57 -0500 on 09/03/2013, Ed Gould wrote about Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?): On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: MY memory from 20 years ago. NOT ALL Datasets are supported with SVC 99 (good indication is GDG but there are othrs). If you say so. I see no reason why

Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique

2013-09-04 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 08:03 -0500 on 09/04/2013, Tom Marchant wrote about Re: SYSIN in PROC -- technique: x-charset UTF-8On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:30:28 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: upgrade to JES2. I have worked in a shop that had both JES2 and JES3 and I appreciated some of the things that I could do easily on

Re: Sortlessness?

2013-09-04 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2013-09-04 19:17, Paul Gilmartin wrote: (I'm trying to move this to IBM-MAIN; it really doesn't belong on ASSEMBLER-LIST. And not trimming quoted material as much as I usually would.) My apologies for originally posting this topic on ASSEMBLER-LIST. I actually meant to post it on