Invoking a clist using IKJEFTSR

2014-12-23 Thread Micheal Butz
Hi I'm trying to invoke a clist which uses Terminal input/output to read and display data Would allocating and using SYSTSIN/SYSTSPRT substitute for The terminal input and output Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- For IBM-MAIN subs

Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)

2014-12-23 Thread Steve Horein
Data Areas PDFs can be found here: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/v2r1pdf/#HAS -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: BDW length vs. Physical Length

2014-12-23 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
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Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)

2014-12-23 Thread Tom Brennan
And maybe everyone knows this, but for a quick look you can submit a job on hold and use INPUT ON in SDSF with SE to see the $INTTEXT in hex. Dale R. Smith wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:53:16 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I was loo

Re: BDW length vs. Physical Length

2014-12-23 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
Not that I am fully informed, but I have been doing I/O at the BSAM, EXCP and STARTIO level for 35+ years, so I's say I was experienced. Starting with QSAM and F/FB/FBS format. For RECFM=FB or FBS the block size must be an even multiple of the LRECL. If you are off by a byte, you will get an

Re: ISPF problem with userid.ISRnnnn.BACKUP

2014-12-23 Thread Mike Schwab
I browsed a backup dataset. Record 1 Column 90 has the dataset name it applies to. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: > On 12/23/2014 01:24 PM, Walt Farrell wrote: >> >> This also may not be your problem, but I notice in the ISPF documentation >> for the EDIT RECOVERY command

Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)

2014-12-23 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:53:16 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: >It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I >was looking in JES C/Bs. > >Could someone give me a clue as to where converter text is defined? > >Regards, >Steve Thompson I believe what you are looking for is not in any

Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)

2014-12-23 Thread Jim
Aside from the Jes2 Intro, ABCs of System Programming also contains some info. Better yet .. google 'JES2 Bootcamp' .. HTH Jim -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:04

Re: publibz->infocenter->knowledgecenter

2014-12-23 Thread Steve Thompson
On 12/23/2014 01:47 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 20:33:06 -0500, Mike Shaw wrote: Knowledge Center is IT from now on, boys and girls. We're not happy about it either. But it all has to go. BookManager drove me crazy with all the hierarchical relationships and little 2-sent

Re: ISPF problem with userid.ISRnnnn.BACKUP

2014-12-23 Thread Steve Thompson
On 12/23/2014 01:24 PM, Walt Farrell wrote: This also may not be your problem, but I notice in the ISPF documentation for the EDIT RECOVERY command the following caveat: Note: For edit recovery to work properly, the data set to be recovered, the edit recovery data set, and the edit recovery ta

Re: publibz->infocenter->knowledgecenter

2014-12-23 Thread Grinsell, Don
There are tools out there that do personal document management and can provide collection/bookshelf capability. Many are free. It's more work, but doable. -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins...@mt.gov "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not nec

Re: publibz->infocenter->knowledgecenter

2014-12-23 Thread Roger Bolan
> > Yes, but what tools are available to manage and organize the > downloaded books? We need an equivalent to the old bookshelves and the > programs that used them, preferably for Linux or z/OS. Unfortunately, I don't know. I try to cope with the new lack of bookshelves by organizing my PDFs int

Re: publibz->infocenter->knowledgecenter

2014-12-23 Thread Alan Altmark
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 20:33:06 -0500, Mike Shaw wrote: >Knowledge Center is IT from now on, boys and girls. > >We're not happy about it either. There are a lot of bytes still to go under the bridge. What has happened is some sort of culture shift in the way people (younger than me) *want* to get

Re: ISPF problem with userid.ISRnnnn.BACKUP

2014-12-23 Thread Walt Farrell
This also may not be your problem, but I notice in the ISPF documentation for the EDIT RECOVERY command the following caveat: Note: For edit recovery to work properly, the data set to be recovered, the edit recovery data set, and the edit recovery table all must exist, be cataloged, and be inta

Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)

2014-12-23 Thread Steve Thompson
On 12/23/2014 09:21 AM, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote: There are Documentation WEB pages and within them, scroll down to the "z/OS JES2" line on the left and locate the "z/OS JES2 Data Areas" volumes. For z/OS 1.13: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_1.13.0/com.ibm.zos.r13/en/Ho

Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)

2014-12-23 Thread John McKown
I think what you want starts here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2E4B0/4.0 and, more specifically, here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2E4B0/4.3 But these are the 1.12 version, because that's what I'm running. z/OS 2.1 version seems

Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)

2014-12-23 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
There are Documentation WEB pages and within them, scroll down to the "z/OS JES2" line on the left and locate the "z/OS JES2 Data Areas" volumes. For z/OS 1.13: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_1.13.0/com.ibm.zos.r13/en/Homepage.html Oops, for version 2, these manuals appea

Re: ISPF problem with userid.ISRnnnn.BACKUP

2014-12-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steve Thompson wrote: >The "DEFER" was issued on Monday morning. So, ISPF/Edit saw this on Monday >morning. Ok. >> Could you try to reproduce it with PDSE and again with PDS? Just make sure >> you are the ONLY one using that member. >I am the ONLY one using the member, because there are only 3

Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)

2014-12-23 Thread Steve Thompson
On 12/23/2014 09:03 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Steve Thompson wrote: It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I was looking in JES C/Bs. Which of C/B or C/I (in your subject) are you refering? I am looking for where the Converter text is defined. The last time I

Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)

2014-12-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steve Thompson wrote: >It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I was looking in >JES C/Bs. Which of C/B or C/I (in your subject) are you refering? >It is also interesting that the manuals keep referring to a JES2 Customization >manual, but it doesn't exist in this set of

Re: ISPF problem with userid.ISRnnnn.BACKUP

2014-12-23 Thread Steve Thompson
Answers embedded: On 12/23/2014 08:51 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Steve Thompson wrote: My problem is, ISPF did recognize the backup file and I told it I wanted to defer the recovery. And you said you can see the user.**.backup. Hmmm, I tried unsuccessfully to recreate it on z/OS v1.13

JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)

2014-12-23 Thread Steve Thompson
It has been a long time since I've done any JES2 stuff where I was looking in JES C/Bs. Could someone give me a clue as to where converter text is defined? I've been using PDF copies of all the JES2 manuals in the SK5T-9234 download. And using the extended search I just can't seem to figure o

Re: ISPF problem with userid.ISRnnnn.BACKUP

2014-12-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steve Thompson wrote: >My problem is, ISPF did recognize the backup file and I told it I wanted to >defer the recovery. And you said you can see the user.**.backup. Hmmm, I tried unsuccessfully to recreate it on z/OS v1.13 (yes, I know you're on 2.1). >When I was ready to edit and pickup from

Re: ISPF problem with userid.ISRnnnn.BACKUP

2014-12-23 Thread Steve Thompson
On 12/23/2014 05:39 AM, Hobart Spitz wrote: In the interest of conserving disk resources, some installations create DASD management rules that delete ISPF edit backup files prematurely, defeating RECOVERY ON. Depending on your site's policies, it may (or may not) be possible to address the issue

AW: Re: //STARTING JOB ... was: Re: JCLLIB in started proc?

2014-12-23 Thread Peter Hunkeler
> If we could solve your problem we could also solve mine presumably. Sorry, Charles, I've lost track of what you initial problem was. Would you like to reiterate? -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / arch

AW: //STARTING JOB ... was: Re: JCLLIB in started proc?

2014-12-23 Thread Peter Hunkeler
> Nice summary, Peter. Thanks > Do you happen to know who puts in //STARTING JOB ... when MEMBER is only > contained in the JES2 proclib concatenation and not in MSTJCL? You probably mean //STARTING EXEC ... not //STARTING JOB, do you? Well, again, I can only tell from what is my understandi

Re: article that may be of interest to some of us

2014-12-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote: >Ditto, but my career change is to become a Wal*Mart greeter at a Wal*Mart in >HAWAII!! :) LOL. But if you make that mistake, I *will* and *surely* ignore [1] you if I go into that shop. Not having anything against to you of course. I would like you to remain on

Re: ISPF problem with userid.ISRnnnn.BACKUP

2014-12-23 Thread Hobart Spitz
In the interest of conserving disk resources, some installations create DASD management rules that delete ISPF edit backup files prematurely, defeating RECOVERY ON. Depending on your site's policies, it may (or may not) be possible to address the issue by pre-allocating your backup datasets to per