Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Edward Gould
Cheryl: > On Aug 23, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Cheryl Watson wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > Regarding "Letting IBM off with variations is nonsense.", I choose to think > of it as being pragmatic. I can complain all day about how IBM's reduction > of staff is hurting the mainframe,

Re: SMPE SCPP Custompac trying to change from "Full replace" to "Software Upgrade".

2016-08-23 Thread John Mattson
With IBM's excellent help, found the answer in the FM. Says right there that software upgrade is for ZOS only, and I am only upgrading CICS. I am new consultant into this very old shop which has ways of doing things which predate serverpac and such. This is going to be "interesting".

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Charles Mills
Perfect is the enemy of good. (Attributed to Voltaire, Confucius and others.) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Cheryl Watson Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 3:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Cheryl Watson
Hi Ed, Regarding "Letting IBM off with variations is nonsense.", I choose to think of it as being pragmatic. I can complain all day about how IBM's reduction of staff is hurting the mainframe, but the fact is that they are doing it despite anything I might say or do. Believe me that putting

Re: JOBDEF DUPL_JOB=NODELAY|DELAY option

2016-08-23 Thread Ronald Kristel
Yes, I Believe there is a "$TJobclass(x),dupl_job=Nodelay/Delay Kind Regards, Ronald Kristel > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 19:39:14 + > From: robert.ah.pr...@gmail.com > Subject: JOBDEF DUPL_JOB=NODELAY|DELAY option > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Is there any way of enabling this on a

JOBDEF DUPL_JOB=NODELAY|DELAY option

2016-08-23 Thread Robert Prins
Is there any way of enabling this on a per-jobclass basis? Robert -- Robert AH Prins robert.ah.pr...@gmail.com No programming (yet) @ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Edward Gould
Cheryl: Thanks for all your work on this. However it occurs to me that IBM is still not living up to the spirit of the request. I would suggest that the “/*" and the “*/” standard (since day one mind you) IS the gold standard. Letting IBM off with variations is nonsense. The first “GROUP” who

Frustrated with IBM knowledge center

2016-08-23 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, I have been trying to find a z/OS knowledge Center for z/OS V2R2 that will install on windows. So far I have found one that installs on z/OS using SMP. Is there one for windows and if so can I download it for installation? Any help appreciated. Thanks. ==

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread J R
Use the REXX approach. Start with a comment that signals that the new standard syntax is being used. /* CARDINAL SYNTAX */ Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2016, at 12:08, Mike Schwab wrote: > > But how would you switch over to the new syntax? > > On Tue, Aug 23,

Re: SMPLOG usage

2016-08-23 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Radoslaw, Yes, SMp/E will use SMPLOG until it is full, then switch to SMPLOGA. Once that is full, it will not go back to SMPLOG. According to the manual: "If the SMPLOGA data set is full, the extra log data is written to the SMPOUT data set, with the date and time stamp encrypted" I have

SMPLOG usage

2016-08-23 Thread R.S.
(SMP/E) SMPLOG is being used with DISP=MOD. That means it will grow and grow until it get full (x37 abend) and then alternative log dataset (SMPLOGA) is used. Am I right with the above? Q1. What happens when SMPLOGA is full? Is SMPLOG used again with overwrite? Q2. Is it reasonable to provide

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 8/23/2016 8:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Wouldn't that resource (and the customers') have been more productively spent in making the syntax uniform? Use Utilities commands as a model. Not according to IBM. It was this or nothing. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Tom Conley
On 8/23/2016 11:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:02:30 -0400, Cheryl Watson wrote: It's true that not all Parmlib members support the same format, but the Init & Tuning Guide has been updated to show which type of comments are allowed in each member. Wouldn't that resource

SMPE SCPP Custompac trying to change from "Full replace" to "Software Upgrade".

2016-08-23 Thread John Mattson
At the beginning of the SCPP install dialog you get an option for "F" full install or "S" software upgrade. I should have chosen "S", but I mucked up and did "F". So I want to change to "S". The manual says I should be able to do I-Install C-Create CReate-create again DELETE-delete old install

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Schwab
But how would you switch over to the new syntax? On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:02:30 -0400, Cheryl Watson wrote: >> >>It's true that not all Parmlib members support the same format, but the Init

Re: Loading Java dump into IPCS

2016-08-23 Thread Janet Graff
Thanks Eileen! Janet > -X options would probably go into the the STDENV IBM_JAVA_OPTIONS parm >Eileen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 8/23/2016 7:01 AM, Tom Conley wrote: This was one of our big SHARE requirements and we worked hard at it. You should be able to put comments in any SYS1.PARMLIB member now. If you find a member that's not supported, please let us know. What he said! Also, if your company is a SHARE

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
One additional gotcha for IEASYMxx. Guess how I learned this. An entire sysplex would not IPL. From KC: "Do not use nested comments in this parmlib member." . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:02:30 -0400, Cheryl Watson wrote: > >It's true that not all Parmlib members support the same format, but the Init >& Tuning Guide has been updated to show which type of comments are allowed >in each member. > Wouldn't that resource (and the customers') have been more

Re: Backup JES2 Spool & Restore with Warmstart

2016-08-23 Thread Jousma, David
I should have added that we specify DUPLEX=on, which means all updates go to both. _ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p

Re: Backup JES2 Spool & Restore with Warmstart

2016-08-23 Thread Jousma, David
That’s what we do. Primary in the CF, secondary on disk. When we recover to our DR systems, we restart JES and it prompts us that the primary is missing, and do we want to start from the secondary. Can't say we have ever noticed a problem.

Re: Backup JES2 Spool & Restore with Warmstart

2016-08-23 Thread Feller, Paul
The secondary should be getting updated at the same time as the primary that is in the coupling facility. The secondary is your fall back if something happens to the structure in the CF. We run that way and have not issues with a warm start at DR. There is some complaints from JES2 about

Re: Backup JES2 Spool & Restore with Warmstart

2016-08-23 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
A question that just occurred to me: Where does your primary checkpoint live? This is pretty ancient history, but in the mid-90s when we first went to parallel sysplex, I tried putting the primary checkpoint in the coupling facility. This meant that the secondary checkpoint was the only one

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Thanks to all for your participation in this thread, but specials kudos to Cheryl Watson and Tom Conley for their efforts. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
THANK YOU - this is great information. -- Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor) Mainframe Systems Programmer Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI Service Delivery & Engineering -Original

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Cheryl Watson
Hi all, Most of the problems have been in the older members, but it's been getting better since IBM included this section in the Init & Tuning Guide. (ISVs should be aware of these guidelines too.): == General syntax rules for the creation of

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Cheryl Watson wrote: >I just LOVE this APAR! No comments... ;-) Sorry, Cheryl, but I really *love* your post. Please continue with your nice posts. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Cheryl Watson
Hi all, It's true that not all Parmlib members support the same format, but the Init & Tuning Guide has been updated to show which type of comments are allowed in each member. In 2011, I created a dozen SHARE requirements to add comments to the remaining Parmlib members that didn't support them.

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Tom Conley
On 8/23/2016 9:10 AM, Richards, Robert B. wrote: This has probably been asked before, but a quick search of the archives did not yield the results I was looking for. Do all members of SYS1.PARMLIB now support /* */ commenting? z/OS' 2.1 and 2.2 installed. Bob This was one of our big

Re: PTF order fulfillment issues and getting HOLDDATA

2016-08-23 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 8/23/2016 5:52 AM, Vince Getgood wrote: To resolve this, in my client data, I had to move the data between the tags BETWEEN the tags. Before change: - -v -f "//'DATA.SET.NAME'" I don't see how this ever worked, as I get a syntax error when falls outside the tag. But in any

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Remember the OLD picture of a "Tree Swing Designed by Committee!" Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 UFIT University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016

Re: PTF order fulfillment issues and getting HOLDDATA

2016-08-23 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Since you got the answer you needed, I thought I would point out that IBM's FTP command searches for "FTP.DATA" differently if the FTP command is invoked from "TSO Shell" or "z/OS Unix Shell" according to " z/OS Communications Server: IP User's Guide and Commands" and the SMP/e invocation of

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Rob Schramm
I am sure there was / is.. but apparently standards are inconsistent other than what is documented member by member. Rob Schramm On Tue, Aug 23, 2016, 9:43 AM Feller, Paul wrote: > I thought there was a push by IBM to allow comments in all members. I > thought

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Feller, Paul
I thought there was a push by IBM to allow comments in all members. I thought the last few members that could not have comments now allow comments. As an example I know the COMMNDxx member did not allow comments, but now it does. I know the way you put in comments does vary from member to

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Richards, Robert B. wrote: >This has probably been asked before, but a quick search of the archives did >not yield the results I was looking for. >Do all members of SYS1.PARMLIB now support /* */ commenting? No. There is only one standard with this name: 'NO STANDARDS' ;-) IEASYSxx has

Re: Mainframe's security assessments costs

2016-08-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Costin Enache wrote: >Why you need the assessment for? If you need it for some certification / legal >purpose, then there are cheap, not too technically advanced solutions out >there. If you are actually looking into detecting and addressing security >issues, then it gets complicated :) Good

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
This is because there is no SYS1.PARMLIB owner and interpreter. Each member has its own owner with its own syntax rules and syntax interpreter. I presume it is (also here) impossible to have all the labs agree on one set of rules. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Sadly no -- Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor) Mainframe Systems Programmer Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI Service Delivery & Engineering -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Richards, Robert B.
This has probably been asked before, but a quick search of the archives did not yield the results I was looking for. Do all members of SYS1.PARMLIB now support /* */ commenting? z/OS' 2.1 and 2.2 installed. Bob -- For

Re: Loading Java dump into IPCS

2016-08-23 Thread Barkow, Eileen
-X options would probably go into the the STDENV IBM_JAVA_OPTIONS parm -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Janet Graff Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 8:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Loading Java dump into

Re: Mainframe's security assessments costs

2016-08-23 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Costin Enache wrote: If you are actually looking into detecting and addressing security issues, then it gets complicated:) The different between cloaking the gluteus and actual forensics! -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax #

Re: Survey question: what do you specify for HVCOMMON?

2016-08-23 Thread Charles Mills
REAL memory? (Other than very occasional backing store?) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Graham Harris Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 7:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Survey question: what do

Re: PTF order fulfillment issues and getting HOLDDATA

2016-08-23 Thread Vince Getgood
Don't know if this will help anybody else out, but I had problems receiving a PTF today using SMP/e orderserver, client and FTP data that had worked since I started here. Looking at the output, it seemed that the IBM site was no longer using my FTP data dataset. It was looking for

Re: Mainframe's security assessments costs

2016-08-23 Thread Costin Enache
Hi, Some topics that we had to address when performing mainframe security assessments: Why you need the assessment for? If you need it for some certification / legal purpose, then there are cheap, not too technically advanced solutions out there. If you are actually looking into detecting and