Re: IEAVPSE2 in type 2 SVC

2017-01-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Joseph Reichman wrote: >I'm assuming based in your post that ieavpse2 Is valid in a type 2 SVC Please do not make that assumption about SVC 2. (I never got around using IEAVPSE2 so far, but with other macros, exits and SVCs over the years.) I have just asked for more details. With more details

Re: Rexx EXECIO DISKRU

2017-01-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>The "shorter" case intrigues me. Does it shuffle the remaining records in >the block and write a shorter block? Is this done by the Rexx function >library or by QSAM? And how does it fill in the longer inter-block gap >without either overwriting the next block or leaving residual data? Does

AW: Re: IMS log files question

2017-01-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
> I am reviewing the system VTOCs and I see a lot of IMS log files that > contain a date/timestamp in their names. I know they are created by > the IMS system using the skeleton proc member ARCHJCL. What I am > seeing is that the file was created with a retention period of 45 days. > > //DFSSLOGP

Re: Paper Tape

2017-01-17 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 10:09 AM, Michael O'Byrne wrote: > > In 1972 I was the second shift manager of the IBM Customer Data Center in > Chicago. We had a paper tape reader/punch attached to a System/7. We > could attach the System/7 to System/360 but generally it was

Re: IMS log files question

2017-01-17 Thread Rich Tabor
IMS itself does not take any action automatically. Since the logs are as close to a complete audit trail for any user interaction with the IMS system, they might need special handling from a retention stand point. From a database recovery perspective, if the DBRC RECON data set for the IMS

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Edward Gould
Gil: That is for a PRINTER not a teletype machine. Two completely different animals. That being said yes system 7 did have a teletype reader that is NOT a 360/370 machine. Ed > On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Paul Gilmartin > <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Mon, 16

Re: HMC System Events "FROM:" Email address

2017-01-17 Thread Brian Westerman
I changed the domain on the change network settings screen to syzygyinc.com, and clicked OK, after which the HMC rebooted and when it came back up the setting was changed, but the email still went out the same. the From is still P64HMC1_EventMonitor@P64HMC1.HMC1 I had expected it to have

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Mike Myers
Phil: Hard to say. As mentioned earlier, my last contact with paper tape (other than 1403 printer control tape) was in1962 on my return to the lower 48 and my next USAF assignment at SAC HQ in Omaha, NB, where I remained in the USAF for another 2 years and stayed active in encrypted teletype

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Great line from great (at least as I remember it) scifi book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adolescence_of_P-1 -- after a gunfight in computer room, during which a certain device took a bullet, "That 1052 had it coming". Bill Godfrey mentioned: > IBM reference >

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-01-17 18:45, Phil Smith wrote: > Tom Marchant wrote: >> Well into the 1970's almost every mainframe shop used paper tape. > > Huh. We had a keypunch in the house in 1965, and I started hanging out in the > computer room at UofW in 1971. I've never seen paper tape in use, only at the >

Re: Rexx EXECIO DISKRU

2017-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:50:29 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >o It's OK for the replacing string to be the same length as the replaced > string, or shorter. > >The "shorter" case intrigues me. Does it shuffle the remaining records in >the block and write a shorter block? Is this done by the Rexx

Rexx EXECIO DISKRU

2017-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
This is more general than Rexx, so, IBM-MAIN: I've submitted an RCF on this, but I'm still curious: In: z/OS 2.2.0 z/OS TSO/E z/OS TSO/E REXX Reference TSO/E REXX commands EXECIO 14. Example of reading a member of a RECFM=U file and changing the first occurrence of the word

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Phil Smith
Tom Marchant wrote: >Well into the 1970's almost every mainframe shop used paper tape. Huh. We had a keypunch in the house in 1965, and I started hanging out in the computer room at UofW in 1971. I've never seen paper tape in use, only at the Computer History Museum. Maybe I was just lucky?

Re: IMS log files question

2017-01-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
First question. Is this in an SMS managed pool? Or NON SMS Managed? Does DFHSM do anything with the dasd these datasets reside on. If the RETPD=45 is met, then there may be a batch DFDSS clean up job, or an SMS Management class It would be helpful to see if the dataset has a management class

IMS log files question

2017-01-17 Thread Tony Thigpen
Can someone point me in the right direction? I am reviewing the system VTOCs and I see a lot of IMS log files that contain a date/timestamp in their names. I know they are created by the IMS system using the skeleton proc member ARCHJCL. What I am seeing is that the file was created with a

Re: New free / open source z/OS tools from Dovetailed Technologies

2017-01-17 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Can the standard z/OS FTP with SSL be used instead of either scp or sftp? I don't think we have any ssh server running at all. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Kirk Wolf Sent: Tuesday, January 17,

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 13:21:16 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Yep. I was going to ask that as a Friday riddle: "what was special about >channel 12?" Yes, a program could check it so that it knew when to quit >printing detail lines, print subtotals, and eject to a new page. Holy cow! Can >you

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 13:21:16 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Can you imagine a program running directly connected to a printer, not spooled? Back in the '70's we had a couple of programs that directly connected to a printer. They were check writing programs, and the check numbers were pre-printed

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Charles Mills
Yep. I was going to ask that as a Friday riddle: "what was special about channel 12?" Yes, a program could check it so that it knew when to quit printing detail lines, print subtotals, and eject to a new page. Holy cow! Can you imagine a program running directly connected to a printer, not

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Dana Mitchell
And also wasn't a channel 12 punch used as end of form indicator that could be checked programatically, so the program could skip to channel 1 when needed? Now that's been a while... Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

SMF-API

2017-01-17 Thread Roland Schiradin
Hi, IFAMQRY works after a full day. WTF I try to use the call macro for hours without success as the doc imply the call macro. However the LINKX works pretty well. Now setting up the SMFPRM and RACF Roland -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: New free / open source z/OS tools from Dovetailed Technologies

2017-01-17 Thread Kirk Wolf
Scott, Right, this is how we use it, except with C/C++/Java/Assembler and no Cobol. If you are familiar with make, you might also try invoking make via ant-ssh in the same connection, which is how we do it. The z/OS "cob2" shell command can be used to run the Cobol compier. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Michael O'Byrne
Carriage control tapes rode on one free spinning wheel and one sprocket wheel. The free spinning wheel was adjustable and was used to apply slight pressure to the tape. They were at the upper right of the print mechanism. The wheels were 1-1/2 to 2 inches in diameter. The tapes were

Re: How to calculate the JES2 Checkpoint and Spool Space

2017-01-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Yep, as you know I've just gone thru something similar with adding / joining 2 systems into a JES2MAS, I used the Init and Tuning as a base, they made my best educated guess as for size, for me, both checkpoints are in a CF, so I based my sizes for 2 systems using the SDSF RM status from each

Re: History of Mainframe Cloud

2017-01-17 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#21 History of Mainframe Cloud http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#22 History of Mainframe Cloud http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#27 History of Mainframe Cloud and recent article from Google Cloud Google Infrastructure Security Design Overview

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Ours was a stack of reel-2-reel tapes on top of the printer. Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 UFIT University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Charles Mills
It is easy to forget how many radically, software-incompatible different "mainframe" lines IBM sold. Others have cataloged the various numbers better than I could. It seems foreign now, not being able to run General Ledger and some scientific calculation on the same mainframe. The 360 was of

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Charles Mills
> Extra points could be earned by raising the lid when printing was actually > taking place The cover (as you noted) raised on its own for paper jams and IIRC a paper out condition. Double extra points for causing the lid to raise when something -- a tray of cards, a verboten cup of coffee,

Re: How to calculate the JES2 Checkpoint and Spool Space

2017-01-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
Yes, exactly. There are entries in the JES2 manuals. But, and big but, everything depends on How Many JOEs - if you currently have 10,000 and want to go to 100,000 BERTs - if you have 10,000 and want to support 80,000 jobs - do you have enough? JQEs - If you currently have 10,000 and

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) writes: > And 1443 (?). I had a client that had a 1403 variant that was a little > slower but included a 16-or-so column card reader. You could print > invoices on pre-punched cards and read the punching to make sure you > were printing on the right card (no spool,

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Sean Gleann
"...There is just zero doubt in my mind that the 1403 printer used a "special" (not TTY-like) paper tape, solely for carriage control, not "data."..." That's my memory, too. Ours was a 1403-N1 aka '1403-Nancy' - with a lid that was raised on motor-driven screws when the paper either jammed or ran

Re: System Symbols (SYSSYM)

2017-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-01-17, at 09:11, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > As I pointed out in my earlier post, system symbols have long (always?) been > honored for STC and TSO proc JCL. The change in 2.1 is to extend this support > to batch JCL on a job class by class basis. If someone wants a preview of > what to

Paper Tape

2017-01-17 Thread Michael O'Byrne
In 1972 I was the second shift manager of the IBM Customer Data Center in Chicago. We had a paper tape reader/punch attached to a System/7. We could attach the System/7 to System/360 but generally it was stand alone. At the time, an energy company was testing an application that would

ZPDT usb issue after lunux update.

2017-01-17 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of license server. I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know dor almost a month. We was hited last friday. ITschak -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: How to calculate the JES2 Checkpoint and Spool Space

2017-01-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
The Init and Tuning Guide has a formula for DASD sizing , reading a bit...they want you to define the checkpoint for a secondary JES subsystem and start it up and 'see' if its the right size. :( but there is a formula in the guide Specifying the storage of checkpoints on DASD When you have

Re: How to calculate the JES2 Checkpoint and Spool Space

2017-01-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
CFSIZER requires the person to enter how many 4K blocks they are going to need. So unless you know how large it needs to be CFSIZER is not much help. I could always "guess" I need this many blocks - but how good would that be? The tool I am building would provide the number of 4k blocks then you

Re: System Symbols (SYSSYM)

2017-01-17 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
As I pointed out in my earlier post, system symbols have long (always?) been honored for STC and TSO proc JCL. The change in 2.1 is to extend this support to batch JCL on a job class by class basis. If someone wants a preview of what to expect in batch with having to turn on the option for an

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 17 Jan 2017 07:42:04 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote: >1403, not 1401. > >And 1443 (?). I had a client that had a 1403 variant that was a little slower >but included a 16-or-so column card reader. You could print invoices on >pre-punched cards

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:29:19 -0800, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: >edgould1948 (Edward Gould) writes: >> That is not how I remember it at all. The Carriage tape on a >> 1403/3211(?) was just for that machine. i.e. skip to channel x As I >> have said before I do not ever remember seeing any IBM

Re: How to calculate the JES2 Checkpoint and Spool Space

2017-01-17 Thread Allan Staller
How about CFSIZER and translate the storage requirements into space requirements? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How to

Re: System Symbols (SYSSYM)

2017-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-01-17, at 08:25, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: 17 January, 2017 16:12 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: System Symbols (SYSSYM) >

How to calculate the JES2 Checkpoint and Spool Space

2017-01-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
Cross posting to TSO REXX and IBMMAIN Long ago IBM Created an APAR OY44087 which provided some guidance and formula on how to calculate space for the JES2 Ckpt and Spool space. I am looking to create a REXX/ISPF function or Excel to mimic this process. However it is lacking on how some of the

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Charles Mills
1403, not 1401. And 1443 (?). I had a client that had a 1403 variant that was a little slower but included a 16-or-so column card reader. You could print invoices on pre-punched cards and read the punching to make sure you were printing on the right card (no spool, obviously). It printed on

Re: IEAVPSE2 in type 2 SVC

2017-01-17 Thread Joseph Reichman
This is on my Zpdt machine I'm assuming based in your post that ieavpse2 Is valid in a type 2 SVC I'm at work doing Application Assembler I'll re-post with detail later Thanks > On Jan 17, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht > wrote: > > Joe

Re: System Symbols (SYSSYM)

2017-01-17 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: 17 January, 2017 16:12 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: System Symbols (SYSSYM) On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 08:55:34 +, Mike Shorkend wrote: >There is one case

Re: IEAVPSE2 in type 2 SVC

2017-01-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Joe Reichman wrote: >Sorry I was clear I meant can I use IEAVPSE2 service in a type 2 SVC the >service never returned (which would be normal as it is suspended) However I >did get an abend and I am thinking it is due to not being able to use IEAVPSE2 Please post the Abend Code and all

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Gil: That is not how I remember it at all. The Carriage tape on a 1403/3211(?) was just for that machine. i.e. skip to channel x As I have said before I do not ever remember seeing any IBM device or computer that had a paper tape reader/writer. This goes back to the 360’s . I just got off the

Re: System Symbols (SYSSYM)

2017-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 08:55:34 +, Mike Shorkend wrote: >There is one case in which there might be problems. Looking at: > >//MYFILE DD DSN=,DISP=(,PASS),UNIT=SYSDA > >WIth SYSSYM set to DISALLOW, this will create a valid temporary dataset(JCL >reference says that you should use a double

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:12:02 -0600, Edward Gould wrote: >> On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> >> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:00:27 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >>> >>> Yep. That's what I was thinking of. I didn't say that it was used for I/O. >>>

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-17 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:07 PM, retired mainframer > wrote: > > While an individual's experience may be typical, it is seldom exhaustive. > > We had a paper tape punch on our system well past 1977. I first used it in > 1973 on a 370/155 but I know it was transferred

Re: IEAVPSE2 in type 2 SVC

2017-01-17 Thread Joe Reichman
Peter, Sorry I was clear I meant can I use IEAVPSE2 service in a type 2 SVC the service never returned (which would be normal as it is suspended) However I did get an abend and I am thinking it is due to not being able to use IEAVPSE2 In a type 2 SVC thing is for those SVC which it says cannot

AW: Re: System Symbols (SYSSYM)

2017-01-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
> There is one case in which there might be problems. Looking at: > //MYFILE DD DSN=,DISP=(,PASS),UNIT=SYSDA When using System Symbols in batch jobs was introduced with z/OS 2.1, I was always wondering what prompted IBM to define that SYSSYM= switch in the JOBCLASS definition. I knew there

Re: IEAVPSE2 in type 2 SVC

2017-01-17 Thread Joe Reichman
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEAVPSE2 in type 2 SVC >For type 2 says can not suspend their caller This sounds wrong. And

Re: System Symbols (SYSSYM)

2017-01-17 Thread Allan Staller
I see no problem enabling SYSSYM. You have to take additional actions (JCL CHANGES) for it to have any impact. > Can anyone see a reason for not enabling System Symbols for all job > classes (i.e SYSSYM=ALLOW ) ? > ::DISCLAIMER::

Re: IEAVPSE2 in type 2 SVC

2017-01-17 Thread Peter Relson
>For type 2 says can not suspend their caller This sounds wrong. And while it might be true that a type 1 SVC can suspend its caller (the table indicates that it is), it would have to be the case that when it did, the SVC in effect terminated so that the "resume" did not occur within the SVC.

Re: IEAVPSE2 in type 2 SVC

2017-01-17 Thread Joseph Reichman
No meaning I can't use the service > On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:11 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > No, unfortunately, IBM provides no manuals or documentation, and there's no > way to search the web. > > sas > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Joseph Reichman

Re: HMC System Events "FROM:" Email address

2017-01-17 Thread Tom Mathias
Brian, The "FROM:" email address for System Events comes from the "Console Name" and "Domain Name" entered onto the Customize Network Settings for this HMC. If you don't specify a domain name (blank), then the default domain name is "IBM1". So, assuming your Console Name is P64HMC1 and the

Re: IEAVPSE2 in type 2 SVC

2017-01-17 Thread Steve Smith
No, unfortunately, IBM provides no manuals or documentation, and there's no way to search the web. sas On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Joseph Reichman wrote: > Hi > > I was looking in the notes on user SVC's > > For type 2 says can not suspend their caller > > That

Re: System Symbols (SYSSYM)

2017-01-17 Thread Mike Shorkend
There is one case in which there might be problems. Looking at: //MYFILE DD DSN=,DISP=(,PASS),UNIT=SYSDA WIth SYSSYM set to DISALLOW, this will create a valid temporary dataset(JCL reference says that you should use a double ampersand but a singe works fine). WIth SYSSYM set to ALLOW, this will

IBM Doc Buddy V1.2 available

2017-01-17 Thread Jialei Ma
IBM Doc Buddy V1.2 is now available for download in Apple App Store and Google Play. The following list summarizes the V1.2 enhancements: * The Red alerts information is now available from the Notifications menu. * Frequently used messages can be saved to Favorites. You can also view your

HMC System Events "FROM:" Email address

2017-01-17 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi, We have a new z13s and this is driving me nuts because I can't figure out where to change the domain name of the system events email sender. The HMC is called P64HMC1 The FROM: on the email that system events generates has P64HMC1_EventsMonitor@HMC1.HMC1, this causes a problem for some of