Re: TIME jn JCL (again)

On 05/02/2017 05:15 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: > On Wed, 3 May 2017 00:05:31 +0200, R.S. > wrote: > >> The topic was discussed recently, but I haven't found in the listserv >> archives an answer to the following question: >> >> Let's assume >> TIME in JOBCLASS definition is 60 >> TIME in JOB statemen

Re: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

Yeah, Intel has their version of Parallel Fortran for they're massively Parallel processors. https://goparallel.sourceforge.net/use-fortran-visual-studio/ Now whether it's gonna assimilate old Fortran is a formidable undertaking. Time, cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca writes: Knowing the

Re: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

[Default] On 4 May 2017 15:53:17 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main ste...@copper.net (Steve Thompson) wrote: >On 05/04/2017 06:08 PM, Clark Morris wrote: > >> Since this is old Fortran, I suspect that the given simulation can >> only use one core. It also may be limited in the memory it can use or

Re: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

That would be a great project for Connor if IBM would let him tackle it Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 5:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Nasa runs

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

Because it isn't the 32nd day of the month? In about 180 million years we will be up to a 25 hour day, due to the tides from the moon slowing the earth down. So, about every 2083 years we add a second to each day. On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@list

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Re: Adventures in JCL: PROCs, symbols and instream data

On 4/05/2017 10:11 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: Did they say why it isn't supposed to work? Is there an undocumented restriction? I am sure it *is* supposed to work, but it's easier to close a problem as a user error. I am also fairly sure that no-one who would actually know whether it was suppos

Re: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

Do I detect shades of Automatic Binary Optimizer for FORTRAN? Would developing that app be worth $50K? Maybe a new project for Connor... . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐==

Re: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

On 05/04/2017 06:08 PM, Clark Morris wrote: Since this is old Fortran, I suspect that the given simulation can only use one core. It also may be limited in the memory it can use or does use. Having a good optimizing compiler would help and one may or may not be available for the box used. The

Re: new member, need old iron assistance

3197? BobL -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 4:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: new member, need old iron assistance [ EXTERNAL ] Didn't IBM have a monochro

Re: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

Amdahl had a Vector Fortran that really added some giddyup if you had a Vector processor. Don't know if would scale to multinode processors. In a message dated 5/4/2017 5:08:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca writes: Since this is old Fortran, I suspect that the give

Re: new member, need old iron assistance

On 1 May 2017 at 15:01, John McKown wrote: > We had a few 3290s at Equitable in Ft. Worth. I really like them. But the > weirdest one that I've ever seen looked like two 3278-2 set one on top of > the other. I can't find the model number. It had a single screen that > looked about as wide as a 32

Re: new member, need old iron assistance

On 1 May 2017 at 15:38, Tom Brennan wrote: > Wow! All I can think of is some high voltage going on in there, like the > flyback transformer in an old tube TV. I never heard the one I worked on, > like you say probably because of all the machine noise in the tape room. I remember seeing an IBM

Re: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

[Default] On 4 May 2017 11:18:43 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main mp...@suse.com (Mark Post) wrote: On 5/4/2017 at 09:56 AM, Phil Smith wrote: > >> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39803425 >> >> So my question on this is, "If this old code ran anywhere near to acceptably >> when it was

Re: Storage Creep

Elardus: Here is snips promised: UPNEXT DS0H Top of loop LAR7,IWKAUL R7 = ICHEINTY work area length STR7,IWKAUStore length of work area in * its header MVI IWKAU+4

Re: Delete files cataloged to MIGRAT

Hi Folks, ...answering my own post Do a RACF ADDGROUP (ARCCATGP), connect to it. Then either logon to TSO with GROUP(ARCCATGP), or submit in Batch using GROUP=ARCCATGP on the JOBCARD. This will allow delete noscratch of HSM migrated datasets. This should only be used to clean u

Re: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

>>> On 5/4/2017 at 09:56 AM, Phil Smith wrote: > http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39803425 > > So my question on this is, "If this old code ran anywhere near to acceptably > when it was written, how can it possibly not be fast enough on modern > hardware?!" My guess would be that over time

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form

I like this one (below) under "The Mainframe Migration Payoff" " - 30+% system performance improvement ​"​ ... ​​ ITschak - On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Ward, Mike S wrote: > I did a google on IBM mainframe migration and here are two opposing > viewpoints. > > > https://www.forb

Re: Snap

Yeah, I am in the process of weeding this one out. Let you great ones know what happened On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:35 AM Elardus Engelbrecht < elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote: > David Crayford wrote: > > >> ​Our "storage creeps" are the ones who maintain the SAN storage. > (sorry, it's Fri

Re: SFTP From Linux to z/OS

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Ron Thomas wrote: > Thanks for all the inputs , if we code as below is it possible to capture > space related issues ? when i tried to give volume parameter it is not > allowing , which made me think that script does not allow multi volume > allocation . Correct m

Re: job output into dataset

1. as others have mentioned, the SPIN function can be used to unalloc and re-alloc the sysout datasets. Clists can issue command: $TS ,SPIN,DDNAME=ddname after writing out to datasets. 2. my clist runs from a job which passes parameters as to which jobnames are to be processed. Job can

Re: SFTP From Linux to z/OS

Thanks for all the inputs , if we code as below is it possible to capture space related issues ? when i tried to give volume parameter it is not allowing , which made me think that script does not allow multi volume allocation . Correct me if i am wrong here ? ls /+mode=text,lrecl=3000,recfm=vb

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

On Thu, 4 May 2017 07:53:24 -0500, Dana Mitchell wrote: >This has been discussed before and is explained very well in this IBM techdoc: > >https://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/WP102081 > >Depending on if you need to be exactly on time after the leap second occurs, >or can

Re: job output into dataset

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > In some cases, sysout--or job messages--can become a space problem. I > mentioned recently a system that we failed to IPL for over a year. At some > point we hit a spool track group shortage because of the PFA started task. > It had accum

Re: job output into dataset

In some cases, sysout--or job messages--can become a space problem. I mentioned recently a system that we failed to IPL for over a year. At some point we hit a spool track group shortage because of the PFA started task. It had accumulated so many lines that the entire system was at risk. Resolut

Delete files cataloged to MIGRAT

Hi Folks, Here's my situation. We brought up DFHSM a few years ago for a trial. Didn't like it - preferred DMS. We have a couple dozen files that are cataloged to MIGRAT. DFHSM was torn down years ago, so no BCDS,MCDS,OCDS, ARCCMD00, etc. I need to delete these, but nothing I

Re: Activating CFRM policy

Thanks Jesse for your answer. We've posted only a format JCL with the CDS02 and not with the CDS01. This is the reason of discrepance. In our d/r we have another set of CFRM couple dataset and we have a system variable in COUPLExx. With one member we can actívate two different set of CFRM coup

Re: Activating CFRM policy

(full reply) 99% of the time you want a new CFRM policy to get stored in the currently active CFRM data set. The DSN/VOL parameters are available for the rare case where you need to create a CFRM policy for a system that is not currently running. We use this capability for DR recovery. At one ti

Re: Activating CFRM policy

99% of the time, you want a new policy to go . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mail

Re: [EXTERNAL] FW: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 10:32 AM, John McKown wrote: > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) > wrote: > >> It's also probable the newer Fortran compilers would do a better job >> optimizing the code. >> > > ​I don't really know what machine they want the code to run on. But using

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form

The modernsystems one looks like it might not be an objective opinion, they seem to sell that as a service :-) Len Rugen Metrics and Automation – umdoitmetr...@missouri.edu -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ward, Mik

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form

I did a google on IBM mainframe migration and here are two opposing viewpoints. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbloomberg/2015/08/14/mainframe-migration-fools-errand/#6fd702984cd3 http://modernsystems.com/10-commandments-of-successful-mainframe-migration/ -Original Message- From:

Re: [EXTERNAL] FW: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote: > It's also probable the newer Fortran compilers would do a better job > optimizing the code. > ​I don't really know what machine they want the code to run on. But using something like OpenMP to use multithreading _might_ increase per

Re: [EXTERNAL] FW: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

It's also probable the newer Fortran compilers would do a better job optimizing the code. -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT

Re: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

On 5/4/2017 9:55 AM, Phil Smith wrote: (Note to the Brits: That's "NASA", not "Nasa"-yeah, yeah, house style. But stupid.) http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39803425 So my question on this is, "If this old code ran anywhere near to acceptably when it was written, how can it possibly not be f

FW: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

I you can't read Fortran converting it will be a pain. You are also talking about a language that was designed to do very, very heavy computational work and the language was optimized to do that. I can promise you that you can rewrite it however when IBM Mainframes are running a bunch of 5.4 G

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form

Hi Steve No , I don't get frustrated of not having a direct answer to the main question. I really appreciate alt he answers coming in. We are getting quite around a lot of things in this case and topic And it is all of great value and all of the answers contributes to my final analyze So , plea

Re: Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

Old compilers that uses many branchs and short words? Itschak בתאריך 4 במאי 2017 16:57,‏ "Phil Smith" כתב: > (Note to the Brits: That's "NASA", not "Nasa"-yeah, yeah, house style. But > stupid.) > > http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39803425 > > So my question on this is, "If this old code ran

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form

For all of you who know who I am, I can provide some insight into this issue generically. I am not familiar with MetaWare (I have not run into them ever in any project I have been involved in over the past 18 years). Regards, Mitch McCluhan mitc...@aol.com -Original Message-

Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster

(Note to the Brits: That's "NASA", not "Nasa"-yeah, yeah, house style. But stupid.) http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39803425 So my question on this is, "If this old code ran anywhere near to acceptably when it was written, how can it possibly not be fast enough on modern hardware?!" --

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

Wow, Lizette ! Tell it like it is. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: job output into dataset

Just to clarify. You will not run out of space on an active job. You can run into a S722 abend which is lines exceeded in JES which means the configuration in JES2 has a maximum limit for lines written to SPOOL. And the task exceeded that limit. And this can happen with a job running for wee

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: job output into dataset

I believe this should work (disclaimer - I haven't tried it) Assuming you are JES2 then setup the DD with SPIN=(UNALLOC,CMNDONLY) Then with automation set the time you want to spin and issue the command: $TS ,SPIN,DDNAME=ddname Then have automation initiate the process to extract th

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form

On 05/04/2017 05:18 AM, James Wellingtin wrote: Have anybody experience with the vendor MetaWare doing migration , Did they succeed in migrating. What did they migrate to How long time did it take I understand your frustration. I am guilty of what I have been frustrated with others about. O

Re: job output into dataset

Hello, Thanks for reply. As you mentioned that you have program which can be used to extract data from various jobs. There are couple points, I would like to make 1) Our requirement is to avoid space issue by cutting the records from continuously running address spaces and put in dataset.

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

This has been discussed before and is explained very well in this IBM techdoc: https://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/WP102081 Depending on if you need to be exactly on time after the leap second occurs, or can tolerate taking a while to 'smear' the time to the new value,

Re: Activating CFRM policy

You're updating the CFRM dataset on volume PLY001, but the active CFRM dataset is on volume PLY003. Mark Jacobs Jorge Garcia May 4, 2017 at 7:16 AM Hi all, We are activating a new CFRM policy. The build of new policy finishs succesfully and it's build in the righ

Re: How is the name for UID=0 chosen in directory listing in Unix System Services

On Wed, 3 May 2017 08:38:23 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Wed, 3 May 2017 04:54:41 -0500, Jantje. wrote: >> >>I have 55 users (mostly for deamons, but not all) having UID=0. When I do a >>ls -l >>on any directory, I see the files belonging to root (owner uid = 0) are >>attributed to belong

Re: Adventures in JCL: PROCs, symbols and instream data

On Thu, 4 May 2017 10:40:46 +1000, Andrew Rowley wrote: >On 27/04/2017 10:54 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: >> Glad you got it to work, but it should have worked the way you had it. >> I hope you will open a Service Request to get it fixed. >I had forgotten how frustrating it is to open Service Requests.

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form

I could be wrong but I don't think many sites replace their mainframes with "server farms". Normally they would replace them with big boxes, rack servers or blades depending on the size of the system. HP Superdomes used to be popular a decade ago but it seems Xeon class x86 servers can now do t

Re: Activating CFRM policy

We've solved the issue removing the DSN parameter in IXCMIAPU utility and updating the active couple datasets. Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu wit

Activating CFRM policy

Hi all, We are activating a new CFRM policy. The build of new policy finishs succesfully and it's build in the right couple datasets LINE Ñ CONTROL CARDS 1DATA TYPE(CFRM) RE

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form

James Wellingtin wrote: >I think that I have got a lot of good and fine answers from many people in >this discussion LIST You have really contributed in understanding of this >topic. And I also conclude from the amount of answers that it is something of >great interest .. Just a few points fro

Migration of Mainframe to other plat form

Hey all I think that I have got a lot of good and fine answers from many people in this discussion LIST You have really contributed in understanding of this topic. And I also conclude from the amount of answers that it is something of great interest .. I would like to be a bit more specific and as