Re: A question about CPU usage on z/OS

2023-07-14 Thread Jon Perryman
While each cpu in the 504 is slower than a 701 cpu, running 4 batch jobs at the same time should reduce run time because each batch job expect reduced wait because there is reduced competition for the CPU. However, you could be correct if the 4 batch jobs are experiencing heavy I/O wait.

Re: A question about CPU usage on z/OS

2023-07-14 Thread Jon Perryman
Every address space has multiple TCB. Only TCBs that are not in a wait (dispatchable) are eligible to run on separate CPUs.  You are correct but all TCBs in a wait are not eligible to run. On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 05:56:58 PM PDT, Brian Westerman wrote: I'm pretty sure that each

Re: How to set a SLIP to catch S0C4 in OMVS separate AS

2023-07-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 00:16:23 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >... >Any and all assistance to help us catch this abend and generate the SVCDUMP >that the ibmdb team have requested to help solve the root cause would be much >appreciated. > No assistance, but an observation that SLIP has appeared

Re: A question about CPU usage on z/OS

2023-07-14 Thread Tom Brennan
On 7/14/2023 3:01 PM, Jon Perryman wrote: > As for batch running slower at night after you went from 1 CPU to 4, that doesn't make sense unless other things changed. I'm thinking it could be as simple as say, going from a 701 to a 504. The overall MIPS are bumped up, multi-task address spaces

Re: A question about CPU usage on z/OS

2023-07-14 Thread Brian Westerman
I'm pretty sure that each TCP of a task can run on a separate CPU. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

How to set a SLIP to catch S0C4 in OMVS separate AS

2023-07-14 Thread Farley, Peter
Hi All, I am trying to help the python ibmdb team help me solve an S0C4 abend issue with (we think maybe) their code on the IBM Zxplore LPAR by generating an SVCDUMP that the ibmdb team could analyze. The admins at Zxplore have tried a couple of times to set a SLIP to catch the S0C4 abend

Re: A question about CPU usage on z/OS

2023-07-14 Thread Jon Perryman
I've never looked at IXGLOGR address space but my guess is that IXGLOGR would have multiple tasks (TCB's) running at the same time if there are multiple logs active.  As for batch running slower at night after you went from 1 CPU to 4, that doesn't make sense unless other things changed. SRM

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Bob Bridges
Nah, that's an old myth that (I think) sprang up only in my lifetime. "Man" has always applied, in English, to humans and also to adult males, depending on context. I'm still unembarrassed to use the term "man-hours". At about the same time sprang up the myth that "my" indicates ownership,

Re: Change how LE allocates storage (subpool,key)

2023-07-14 Thread Steve Thompson
I don't know if this ancient history will be of any use in your case Binyamin: In the early 1990s, I was working on IBM Prolog for 370 (MVS). I was asked to help the VM group migrate their code to MVS and they explained their issues with Stack/Heap. We discussed storage keys and what they

Re: A question about CPU usage on z/OS

2023-07-14 Thread Peter Relson
CPU Affinity has not been supported for many years. I don't remember if it ever was on an address-space basis as opposed to begin on a work-unit basis (I know that you could identify CPU affinity for a scheduled SRB, for example). The "multiprocessor effect" (or perhaps it's the

SYSREXX - Max number of tasks (TSO=NO)

2023-07-14 Thread jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar
Hi: from IBM documentation (z/OS 2.4): << There can be up to 64 REXX worker tasks running TSO=NO execs and up to 8 TSO server address spaces running TSO=YES execs.>> On the other hand, in System Rexx configuration member AXRxx, you have the parameter MAXWORKERTASKS, whose maximum value is 32.  

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
I believe that it's because a single id is easier to audit. Apparently easy audits are more important than actual security. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bob Bridges Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 9:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
For testing authorized code, it helps to have a userid with minimal privileges. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Brennan Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 10:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Userid schemes I had 3 id's on

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
English has many nouns that have both gender neutral and gender specific uses; demanding that we stop using terms that are in no way derogatory is linguistic fascism. OTOH, there are words that really derogatory, and we should refrain from using those.

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Tom Brennan
I had 3 id's on each system, but all had the same sysprog capability. Mainly it was to avoid the embarrassment of having to go to another sysprog to fix my #1 id after I messed it up testing or changing something. But they also came in handy for testing things like enqueues and multiple

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Mike Cairns
Being a RACF geek and a contractor for roughly half my career I've seen most of the conventions people have shared here in this thread. The best laugh I get talking with other mainframe geeks though was from a large bank where the algorithm went: First 5 letters of SURNAME + first initial of

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Tony Thigpen
I can verify that CA would adjust the userid if the resulting userid was 'inappropriate'. One of my coworkers was such a case. Unfortunately, its been too long ago and I can't remember the specifics. When CA bought our company and told us the new rules, one guy just busted out laughing and it

Re: Change how LE allocates storage (subpool,key)

2023-07-14 Thread Farley, Peter
Binyamin, Is this desire perhaps for use in a CICS "threadsafe" or "open" TCB? If so, doesn't CICS itself provide some CICS-unique storage facilities to LE programs, and are those not sufficient to your needs? As many others have mentioned, the LE Vendor Interfaces manual has information on

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread zMan
Maybe it wasn't a "man number" as in "male human being", but rather a "machine automation number number"? /s (but ya gotta admit, it DOES sound like something IBM would have, complete with redundancy!) On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 9:59 AM David Spiegel < 0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Phil Smith III
Paul Gilmartin wrote, in part: >IBM has over 300,000 employees. While it's not relevant to the point you were making, I suspect that number is much smaller these days. I'd heard that IBM was down to fewer than 25,000 U.S. employees several years ago, before the Kyndryl spinoff and several more

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Paul, You said: "...Just remarking that "man number" is conspicuously gender-specific.  ..." True, but, you have to remember the historical context for it. You said: "...IBM has over 300,000 employees. Are the numbers required to be unique? ..." AFAIK, my number was unique in Canada. My

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 06:43:49 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: > >EEOC is an American thing. In Canada, we have an equivalent. > Just remarking that "man number" is conspicuously gender-specific. >Please explain:  "... Five digits isn't enough. ..." Enough for what? > IBM has over 300,000 employees.

Re: Change how LE allocates storage (subpool,key)

2023-07-14 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I did RTFM before asking. I was surprised that it wasn't an obvious thing in the vendors guide. On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 15:11:07 +0200 Tony Harminc wrote: :>On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 at 14:33, Binyamin Dissen :> wrote: :>> :>> I also want STACK storage. :> :>OK - I'm not an expert in LE interfaces. I

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Bob Bridges
Radek, I can't read the mind of Canadian legislators, but I would guess it has to do with fraud. I'm told that one can go through someone's trash, find old bills (telephone, power etc) and use that information to convince someone at the power company that I'm the householder because I have the

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Bob Bridges
I fully agree with the general principle that one ID must have no more than one owner. (I'll admit to exceptional cases, but I'll argue about them first.) I've never understood the reverse principle that every user must have only one ID. I think the folks who make a rule like that are simply

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
You could connect them all to a dummy group with no privileges. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bob Bridges Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 9:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Userid schemes I like the part about service IDs.

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
I hope that they're not, e.g., defense, financial, health. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Matt Hogstrom Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 9:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Userid schemes I think it’s not having multiple ID

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Bob Bridges
I like the part about service IDs. One of the challenges at most installations I've worked at is being able to identify non-human IDs; they're easy enough to spot by eye (because of the name attached to it), but I need some sort of indicator when writing a program. --- Bob Bridges,

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I think it’s not having multiple ID inasmuch as the implied sharing. Oddly enough, I’ve run into a situation where some customers want to map multiple distributed IDs to a shared mainframe ID for a given function in an application to avoid creating hundreds of IDs for the application support

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, You said: "...Auditors don't like multiple user ids..." It's not the first time auditors have had illogical ideas. OTOH, 2 or more people sharing a Userid is BAD. Regards, David On 2023-07-14 08:38, Seymour J Metz wrote: Auditors don't like multiple user ids, but sysprogs

Re: Change how LE allocates storage (subpool,key)

2023-07-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 at 14:33, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > > I also want STACK storage. OK - I'm not an expert in LE interfaces. I just saw that there's a documented heap manager interface that you can supply services to. Maybe there's something similar for stacks. Maybe stacks are allocated from

Re: Basic VM/CMS question (GENMOD)

2023-07-14 Thread Alan Altmark
You'll get plenty of help over in the IBMVM mailing list. When you issue the LOAD prior to the GENMOD, be sure to include the RLDSAVE option. This ensures that your program can be loaded anywhere in memory, and CMS will not overlay the current program. In fact, the first MODULE can invoke

Re: Where does the IHASLMSG mapping macro live?

2023-07-14 Thread Peter Relson
IHASLMSG is not distributed. It is not a programming interface. The DataAreas book contains the information for that macro, as has been mentioned. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
Auditors don't like multiple user ids, but sysprogs are usually in multiple roles, with different authority requirements. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Colin Paice Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 7:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Change how LE allocates storage (subpool,key)

2023-07-14 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I also want STACK storage. On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:15:10 +0200 Tony Harminc wrote: :>On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 at 12:57, Binyamin Dissen :> wrote: :>> :>> No replaceable routine. :>> :>> Got it. :> :>I'm a bit surprised... The LE Vendor Interfaces book has all kinds of :>talk about providing your own

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
We still have remnants of IDs from M activities. Some of them are a 2 character department followed by 3 random digits, the other is EMP. Not sure if they used CON for contractors or some other combination of letters for non-employees. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Colin Paice
Some of the UK banks use your D.O.B as an account number - such as 601225JC12 ! which exposes sensitive information. At one point some of us had two userids. SYSPROG1 ... for sysprog stuff, and a personal ID. When anyone moved on they just reallocated SYSPROG1 to a new user, and all the

Re: Change how LE allocates storage (subpool,key)

2023-07-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 at 12:57, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > > No replaceable routine. > > Got it. I'm a bit surprised... The LE Vendor Interfaces book has all kinds of talk about providing your own heap storage manager. Maybe this interface isn't available in your environment, or has too many

Re: Change how LE allocates storage (subpool,key)

2023-07-14 Thread Binyamin Dissen
No replaceable routine. Got it. On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 01:55:39 +0200 Bernd Oppolzer wrote: :>If there is no explicit LE option to override the standard subpools :>(which are 1 and 2, AFAIK), :>then I would try to use the LE option which allows to have an alternate :>heap handler :>and use a

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Paul, EEOC is an American thing. In Canada, we have an equivalent. Please explain:  "... Five digits isn't enough. ..." Enough for what? (I think you're confusing employee number with SIN (equivalent to American SSN). Regards, David On 2023-07-13 22:53, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 13

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 14.07.2023 o 02:32, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 20:17:38 -0400, Matt Hogstrom wrote: A place I worked used initials followed by a 5 digit employee ID. xxn Many years ago someone reported here that in Canada it was illegal to use an employee# as a UID because it's

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Andrew Wilkinson
My favourite (admittedly on a sandbox) was an IMS guy with the right initials who snagged DL1. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Jack Zukt
First position for the company first letter and six digits with the employee number. For external people, "EX" and five digits for a sequence number. "Y" for service userids with up to seven letters taken from the product name (as these do not logon to TSO, eight positions could be used) Regards

Re: DFSORT - adding up on a field

2023-07-14 Thread Jack Zukt
Thank you very much Kolusu. That did the trick Best wishes Jack On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 17:40, Sri h Kolusu wrote: > Jack, > > If your intention is to count the number of Storage group and DASD Model, > then you can init with a counter of 1 and then sum it up. > > Here are the updated control

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-14 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
When I worked at IBM it was first letter of surname plus personnel number (5 numerics). Another site used a role based ID such as SNRDBA for Senior DBA. On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 10:31 AM Bob Bridges wrote: > One place I worked used the employee number as proof of identify when the > help desk