Re: LOCASCB AR Mode

I don’t know if used sysstate macro but let me check i would assume the default value is primary > On Sep 4, 2023, at 11:33 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: > > On 9/4/2023 6:09 PM, Joseph Reichman wrote: >> Can someone explain to me why the last instruction in the LOCASCB MACRO is >> SAC X'200' > >

Re: LOCASCB AR Mode

On 9/4/2023 8:33 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: Here is how the LOCASCB macro is coded: | AIF   ('' EQ 'P').NOAR1   @L2A | SAC   0 @L2A |.NOAR1   ANOP @L2A | BALR  14,15   .ENTER THE LOCASCB ROUTINE | AIF   ('' EQ 'P').NOAR2   

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

Interesting  Automation and technology replacing jobs has long been a conversation in Nevada's most populated city. Studies show that between 38% to 65% of jobs there could be automated by 2035. I’m betting the high end. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, September 4, 2023,

Re: LOCASCB AR Mode

On 9/4/2023 6:09 PM, Joseph Reichman wrote: Can someone explain to me why the last instruction in the LOCASCB MACRO is SAC X'200' When all else fails, just look at the code. It's a self-service activity! Here is how the LOCASCB macro is coded: | AIF   ('' EQ 'P').NOAR1

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

https://apple.news/AixoP4CtmQXe5nrEq1l8bCw Interesting article about AI Idk how many open link Get Outlook for iOS From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Brennan Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 4:48:22 PM To:

Re: LOCASCB AR Mode

Didn’t specify stoken the code caused me to get a 0F8 as I was running under test and there must been sone value in the access registers > On Sep 4, 2023, at 10:36 PM, Attila Fogarasi wrote: > > Sets AR mode. You specified STOKEN and this is how it can be accessed :) > >> On Tue, Sep 5,

Re: LOCASCB AR Mode

Sets AR mode. You specified STOKEN and this is how it can be accessed :) On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 11:09 AM Joseph Reichman wrote: > Hi > > > > Can someone explain to me why the last instruction in the LOCASCB MACRO is > SAC X'200' > > > > Thanks > > >

LOCASCB AR Mode

Hi Can someone explain to me why the last instruction in the LOCASCB MACRO is SAC X'200' Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: RACF for using SDSF

Did you do SETROPTS RACLIST(ADCDA) REFRESH without the REFRESH your changes will not take effect. regards; Rahim    On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 09:57:20 AM CDT, Joseph Reichman wrote: You got it did the connect and I am good thanks -Original Message-

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

I’ve been to at least 10 Shares over the years. Also CA Worlds, OPM conferences, & IBM systems tech universitys. Lots of idiotic presentations at Share. Lots of good ones as well. Like Quackenbush’s SMPE, wait SMP/E, Roger Miller DB2 sessions, and some others. Remember the Rod Stewart freebie

Re: RACF for using SDSF

Joseph, All you need is READ access to one of the following profiles: GROUP.ISFOPER.* GROUP.ISFSPROG.* GROUP.ISFUSER.* All profiles in CLASS(SDSF). Which one to use? ISFSPROG is the best, ISFUSER is the worst. Just try one after another and you will see the differences. Note: in the old days

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

Yeah, sigh. It's sometimes hard to let pass nonsense such as what he spouted about assembler language. But of course when his assertions are demolished, he resorts to distractions such as whether degrees matter and who's had the most short-term employments. Anyone here with as misguided an

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

He is better known for his contributions to SHARE.. What have you contributed? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 4:46 PM To:

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

I just moved the cursor to where I thought a line should end and pushed Return. On 9/4/2023 11:04 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 10:42:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: I can't be sure I formatted it properly, ... What did you do to fix it? (List the steps, or did you just retype

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

lol better known! That’s the goal of these cult members. Not talented, not educated, but better known. That’s why you join LinkedIn too. To be known and to network. You were unemployed for a long period of time. Because you had a signature line asking for a job. Begging really. Something I’ve

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

Why don’t you guys just email each other directly. Get Outlook for iOS From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 4:40:44 PM To:

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

I’m not a narcissist. I don’t need to post my resume there. (Many are embellished) Plus, LinkedIn has had numerous hacks. My resume that I wrote decades ago and just added to with each employer, got me offers galore, was 100% factual, and my interview skills got me hired. I was never

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

Nonsense. I have an MA in Mathematics, and I would never accept a degree as a proof of competency. Gabe has long since earned his chops, and is certainly better known in the industry than you are. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

I love how many of you downplay others who don’t do what you do. And act like it’s inferior. Plus, puff yourselves up simply for programming in Assembler. I made a boatload of money in 40+ years performing nearly every task on the mainframe. I can also code in Assembler, just never needed to.

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

Too funny. Basic research (LinkedIn, etc.) would have revealed my degree. Research ability is another important system programming skill you haven't exhibited. You've listed dozens of places you've worked (with apparently consistently short tenures) and various products you've touched but

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

The Devil is in the details; with proper MIME headers the QP would have been decipherable. As it is, ... From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

Phoenix online? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, September 4, 2023, 4:26 PM, g...@gabegold.com wrote: Not that it matters -- or that I rely on it for credentials/credibility -- but I do, B.S. in Applied Mathematics. Wrong again, you are. About so much. My point is that many

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

Not that it matters -- or that I rely on it for credentials/credibility -- but I do, B.S. in Applied Mathematics. Wrong again, you are. About so much. My point is that many excellent programmers (system and application) don't have degrees - and are no less excellent for that omission. And

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 19:54:56 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The original is the exact octets that chaatGPT gave you. QP encoding is not >the original. > If ChatGPT identified the recipient as a MUA and honored RFC 822++'s USASCII requirement, some encoding was necessary after it had made two

Key differences between education and training.

- Training refers to an act of inculcating specific skills in a person. Education is all about gaining theoretical knowledge in the classroom or any  institution. - Training is a way to develop specific skills, whereas education is a typical system of learning. - Training is

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

I’ve listed my skills and jobs here. Worked for numerous companies, some rather large, (GM, Revco, Parker Hannifin, Kaiser Permanente, Kent State, Phar Mor, Mellon Bank, First Energy, American Electric Power, Alltel, Medical Mutual of Ohio, Microfocus, and others. I can tell you’re not a

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

No doubt you don’t have one.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, September 4, 2023, 4:11 PM, g...@gabegold.com wrote: That's correctly spelled z/OS. Even beginning system programmers should know that. Degrees are often most relevant to people who rely on them for credibility, vs.

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

That's correctly spelled z/OS. Even beginning system programmers should know that. Degrees are often most relevant to people who rely on them for credibility, vs. having actual qualifications and experience. "Unless you work for IBM, you’re likely an installer of zOS" shows profound ignorance

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

The original is the exact octets that chaatGPT gave you. QP encoding is not the original. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 3:46 PM To:

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 18:54:21 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I'd have to view the original in hex before I'd even try to guess. > Ask ChatGPT to fix it! What's "the original"? Here's what my MUA shows as "Raw Source". no linebreaks; no trailing spaces; lotsa NBSP: Chatgpt: Certainly!

Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN

I think that instead of posting surly replies refrain from posting.  No need for unpleasantness. On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 01:37:00 a.m. EDT, Brian Westerman wrote: I think even the ones that abuse the list the most still provide assistance from time to time that is very

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

I'd have to view the original in hex before I'd even try to guess. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 2:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 18:32:29 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >Not sure. My experience with chatgpt is minimal. I installed it on the iPhone >a month or two ago and this is my second attempt to get it to do something.  > It's like "Genuine Fractals". It looks like Assembler code only when viewed from

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 18:28:35 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I've had situations where pasting to and copying from notepad (not wordpad) >fixes similar issues. > vi expanded the NBSP. Is there a fix for the newlines? Just give ChatGPT D- and a makeup assignment. -- gil

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

Not sure. My experience with chatgpt is minimal. I installed it on the iPhone a month or two ago and this is my second attempt to get it to do something.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, September 4, 2023, 2:25 PM, Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

I've had situations where pasting to and copying from notepad (not wordpad) fixes similar issues. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 2:25 PM

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 17:20:24 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >The formatting was perfect. The cut & paste wasn’t. > Could you direct it to a file instead of the screen, and attach the file? (Teachers look askance at copies of homework.) -- gil

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

Like I said the formatting was perfect via chatgbt, the cut/paste was not. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, September 4, 2023, 2:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 10:42:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: >I can't be sure I

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

AI started in the 1950s, and the promises started not long after. Mechanical translation and controlled fusion are other areas where progress was slower than promised. On the flip side, a lot of things happened a lot faster than expected. From: IBM

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 10:42:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: >I can't be sure I formatted it properly, ... > What did you do to fix it? (List the steps, or did you just retype t?) Could ChatGPT be instructed to use line breaks and eschew NBSP? >but after looking over the >code, I have nothing to say

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

I’ve been hearing the mainframe is going to be gone soon for 30+ years. I’ve not been hearing about AI for very long. Like I said these AI chatbots haven’t been around long. And the subsequent massive increases over the last 6 months or so from the big players. META, GOOGLE, others. Sent from

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

I've been hearing five years for decades; I'm confident that it will happen, but have no trust for promises about timing. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday,

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

I can't be sure I formatted it properly, but after looking over the code, I have nothing to say but WTF? :) PRINT NOGEN TITLE 'Simple Addition Program' ** Define storage for input numbers and result * NUM1 DSF First input number NUM2 DSF

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

The formatting was perfect. The cut & paste wasn’t. Chatgpt has been available for what? 6 months? A year maybe? In 5 years, it’ll be 1000 times better. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, September 4, 2023, 1:04 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: Apart from the poor formatting I’ll share that

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

Apart from the poor formatting I’ll share that ChatGPT does a poor job at assembler. Largely, I think, due to the lack of samples. If you look for Python, Node or other code examples it does an amazing job (although not perfect). I wouldn’t “blame” ChatGPT inasmuch as I’d understand that AI is

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 16:36:14 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >William:  > >Write me an assembler program using high-level assembler for the mainframe. > Fix your damn mailer, or throw it away and get one that works! In particular, do not use NBSP to format code samples. >Chatgpt: > >Certainly! Here’s

Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

William:  Write me an assembler program using high-level assembler for the mainframe. Chatgpt: Certainly! Here’s a simple example of a mainframe assembly program written in High-Level Assembler (HLASM) that reads two numbers from input and prints their sum:          PRINT NOGEN         TITLE

Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN

One thing to keep in mind is that people have fluctuating demands on their time. The same person may give very terse advice when he's busy but cite, quote and provide a link for the documentation when he has time. Also, some will invest more time helping those who have done their homework.

Re: Asking questions and learning.

Old Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN New Subject: Re: Asking questions and learning. On 9/4/23 12:36 AM, Brian Westerman wrote: I think even the ones that abuse the list the most still provide assistance from time to time that is very useful.

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

My loss of innocence was when, as a HS student, I had to explain a multiple linear regression program to a woman with an MA in Statistics. The degree changes the odds that you understand your major, but it is neither necessary nor sufficient. It's something to take into account, but there are

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

To claim people who don’t code assembler or read dumps aren’t systems programmers is idiotic. Sure, there are some people who don’t need college to be good systems programmers, but I’ll bet you don’t get heart surgery from a guy/gal who isn’t trained by a college and you don’t hire a lawyer

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

Well said. On 9/4/2023 2:24 AM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: FWIW: I have a computer science degree from the university of Stuttgart, Germany (from 1977 to 1985). We learned Pascal first, then different Assembler languages. During my studies, I got interested in compiler construction, and I am the

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

ITYM quotation, and IMHO that quote should be part of the curriculum for any school of CS, cited whenever discussing handles, indirect addressing or pointers. It wouldn't hurt for the IBM tech writers to keep it in mind when documenting parameters.

Re: SMF Extract Using to find the user id who deleted datasets

Hi, There is a utility on CBT site that may help you to find it. It is called DAF. Best Regards Ituriel do Nascimento Neto z/OS System Programmer Em segunda-feira, 4 de setembro de 2023 às 11:59:36 BRT, Sathish Kumar escreveu: Hi Team, One of our system datasets someone deleted

SMF Extract Using to find the user id who deleted datasets

Hi Team, One of our system datasets someone deleted we are not sure who deleted those datasets. How we can find which user ID deleted a dataset? I tried to run the SMF extract job using record type 65 but was not able to find it. Pls suggest me Thanks

Re: RACF for using SDSF

You got it did the connect and I am good thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 10:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RACF for using SDSF You do not need to have sys1 as a default group.

Re: RACF for using SDSF

You do not need to have sys1 as a default group. Che k if you are authorised to sdsf isf.connect profile ITschak בתאריך יום ב׳, 4 בספט׳ 2023 ב-17:34 מאת Rob Scott : > Joseph, > > I think you need to use the "CONNECT" command instead of ALTUSER : > > CONNECT userid GROUP(group_name) > >

Re: RACF for using SDSF

Joseph, I think you need to use the "CONNECT" command instead of ALTUSER : CONNECT userid GROUP(group_name) Afterwards a "LISTUSER userid" command should list all groups that the user is connected to. As most sites run with "list of groups checking", there is normally no need to change the

Re: RACF for using SDSF

Joe Reichman Yep even did setropts refresh On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 10:22 AM Colin Paice wrote: > did you logoff and logon again? > > On Mon, 4 Sept 2023 at 15:19, Joseph Reichman > wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I am getting the following message on my ADCD system > > > > > > > > ISF024I USER

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

Namen sind Schall und Rauch, Some parts of the discussion reminds me to Lewis Carroll, Through the looking glass. It reminds me to the citation that that I made in ibmmail descript https://www.funet.fi/pub/doc/netinfo/EARN/ (There are some other gems in that directory). "song" = "what

Re: RACF for using SDSF

did you logoff and logon again? On Mon, 4 Sept 2023 at 15:19, Joseph Reichman wrote: > Hi > > > > I am getting the following message on my ADCD system > > > > ISF024I USER ADCDANOT AUTHORIZED TO SDSF, NO GROUP ASSIGNMENT > > > > I tried ALU ADCDA GROUP(SYS1) this is the group that my other

RACF for using SDSF

Hi I am getting the following message on my ADCD system ISF024I USER ADCDANOT AUTHORIZED TO SDSF, NO GROUP ASSIGNMENT I tried ALU ADCDA GROUP(SYS1) this is the group that my other tso Is which has access to SDSF Regardless after I do the command and do a LU ADCDA the group

Re: Switching between SMT-1 and SMT-2

On 31/08/2023 10:50 pm, Scott Chapman wrote: But z/OS "densely packs" the cores, meaning that if a work unit is running on a zIIP core and another zIIP eligible work unit comes in it will run on the second thread on the already busy zIIP core instead of being dispatched to an available but

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

FWIW: I have a computer science degree from the university of Stuttgart, Germany (from 1977 to 1985). We learned Pascal first, then different Assembler languages. During my studies, I got interested in compiler construction, and I am the maintainer of the New Stanford Pascal compiler today,

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

I write more lines of assembler per month now than I used to write in a year 10 to 15 years ago. I can't even think of an exit that I have not written code for at least a dozen times. I've written more interfaces for Java and C++ to "get" things from z/OS in the past 5 years than I really