Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

ith a line beginning with "./", which is likely in JCL with instream data, IEBUPDTE will improperly treat it as a command, not data. A similar problem arises if a data line begins with "??". And no DLM is safe to use with instream XMIT output. >On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 6

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 08:34:30 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >I have some REXX code that extracts all members of a PDS and writes it to a >sequential file. Each member extracted is prefixed with the ./ADD card with >the original member name. Handy for moving a PDS to another system. >IEBUPDTE was t

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 09:30:15 -0500, wrote: >Which utility do you use for control statement/input: >./ ADD > That question needs a lot of context; perhaps an example. What are you trying to do? >A jcl for that would be nice too. > Many people wish for some editing capability in the JCL Read

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PASSPORT 3270 emulator (PC) problem w transferring files

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:59:26 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: >... >Anyway, Microsoft ftp client doesn't support passive and zscaler only supports >passive. Guess what quit talking? > The dual-socket FTP design, separating control and data, was recherché in its time and now obsoleted by security

Re: Not getting IBM-MAIN Email

On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 23:08:54 -0400, David Mingee wrote: >Hello All, I magically started getting email from IBM-MAIN on Monday Apr 8. >Thanks to all who offered help. > I have found the following informative: Does LISTSERV periodically test with something such as

Re: PASSPORT 3270 emulator (PC) problem w transferring files

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:39:11 +, Robert Prins wrote: > >You're probably paid a fair amount of dosh, ... And for ftp, FileZilla is free. > > Provided the client: o Allows FTP o Allows shareware. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscrib

Re: Program to split a jobs output

On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 08:42:37 +, גדי בן אבי wrote: > >Today I had to sent a jobs output to IBM to help determine a problem. >The jobs had 11 sysout datasets, and I wanted to send each one individually. > >Does anyone know of a program to do this automagically, before I see how >complicated it wo

Re: Program to split a jobs output

On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 09:15:05 +, Rob Scott wrote: >I believe that Lionel Dyck has a simple SDSF REXX exec that does pretty much >what you require - it is called "SDSFXDD". > >It takes each SYSOUT dataset from a job and saves it as a member of a PDS. > I've done that, but targeting a UNIX hiera

Re: FTP translate table defaults

On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 13:32:46 -0400, Phil Smith IIIwrote: >... >I don't have a solid answer other than that file tagging seems to matter, so >chtag is your friend. > . Does the FTP server have such as a SITE CHTAG command? Will FTP automatically tag a file to the value in SBDATACONN? -- gil

Re: [ISPF-L] Edit Copy anomaly ?

(I'll try to cross-post this.) On 4/4/24 10:49:48, lbd...@gmail.com wrote: Found another way to do it From my home directory via the shell entered: */cp script /dsfs/txt/hlq.pds/script/* And then checked and it copied just fine – kudos to the */dsfs/* team. . A pleasant surprise. Is this

Re: Attributes of an assemler symbol

On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 13:38:22 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The obvious answer, which, alas, isn't supported, would be the N' attribute. >RFE? > Idea? This belongs on ASSEMBLER-LIST. Does it matter that the values in a symbol can vary between repetitions? E.g.: TABLE DC 256AL1(*-TABLE)

Re: Slow FTP's

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:26:46 +, Jousma, David wrote: >Ding ding ding…..Gil gets the prize!... > >Coding EBCDIC, and STRU R was the magic potion. > And no one knows why. FTP appears designed to ignore conventions and frustrate programmers.\ Once I coded: //SYSUT1 DD RECFM=U,...

Re: Slow FTP's

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:41:32 +, rpinion865 wrote: >As you have determined, it seems that MODE B (Block Mode) is the kicker. >Using XMIT or TERSE would eliminate the need for MODE B. But we all know >there is CPU consumption from using those two utilities on both ends. > Might STRU R be pr

Re: DSFS IBM Idea - Please consider voting

On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 13:48:56 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >Please consider voting on my new IBM Idea for /dsfs >https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-4024 >- this is requesting that dsfs have access to input datasets in the spool >along with the currently supporte

Re: FTP SBDATACONN - how to display?

On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:39:22 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >>> >> what does [QUOTE [SITE]] STAT tell you? > >The output is long, but it does not contain translation details. >However it shows "ENcoding is set to SBCS". > Feels like an invitation to an Idea. >Note, SITE STAT (SBD   or SITE STAT

Re: FTP SBDATACONN - how to display?

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 21:46:37 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >How to display current settings of SBDATACONN? >I mean translation details. >The server is running on z/OS, the client is Windows or Linux (text >mode, no GUI clients). > what does [QUOTE [SITE]] STAT tell you? -- gil --

Re: How to unzip my Rocket MAKE 4.3 file

On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 15:45:28 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: >I *think* pax will explode a zip file. > I have used "jar" to explode a zip file. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 23:24:38 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >CALL ON or SIGNAL ON? > ??? CALL ON to a procedure coded in front of the main loop and drop through without RETURN? That would make things worse. He would have wanted ITERATE ON. > >

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 19:36:12 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The SIGNAL statement unwinds the stack in a very disruptive fashion; its >behavior is unlike GOTO in any language that I am familiar with. Use it for >anything but exception handling at your peril. > >"unwinds" in a very disruptive and p

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 12:29:16 -0500, Charles Mills wrote: > >(Why do I care? I am subsequently going to add a relatively small number to >the product and don't want to lose low-order digits.) > Set DIGITS to (FSVO) enough. >I tried using FORMAT but unless I use it in every subsequent calculation

Re: BASE64 Decode / EPOCH Conversion Code Samples

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 02:11:50 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >HLASM. > I understand that on Linux HLASM translates ASCII source to EBCDIC on input and assembles that. Has anyone written a HLASM base64 decoder that works on both ASCII and EBCDIC? Conditional assembly? Dual path? Translation on i

Re: BASE64 Decode / EPOCH Conversion Code Samples

On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 19:47:13 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > >Actually not, as the base64 document survives character conversion. > I agree there's no loss of information. >An assembler routine running using EBCDIC will provide the same result (with >EBCDIC) as the routine running using ASCII with

Re: BASE64 Decode / EPOCH Conversion Code Samples

On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 08:46:01 -0600, Joel C. Ewing wrote: >... >If you really want the BASE64 encoding to be in EBCDIC characters,  and >also a conversion of a binary value to be interpreted and displayed in >EBCDIC, I would think it much more useful to keep these as  two >independent routines. >

Re: BASE64 Decode / EPOCH Conversion Code Samples

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 09:59:02 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: >Base64 has nothing to do with EBCDIC. > ??? >It is a means of converting binary data to commonly printable characters >(typically A-Z a-z 0-9 + /) that can then be shipped in a non-binary manner. > To an assembler program it is almost ce

Re: TELNET PROFILE, strictly PDS?

On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 13:29:59 +, roscoe5 wrote: >I could not find definitive doc saying a PDS/E was/wasn’t allowed, but I am >convinced it is. Thanks. > In days of yore there were only PDSs Nowadays there are PDS, PDSE1, PDSE2, and UNIX directories with some similarities and many differences l

Re: 35th International Rexx Symposium in Birsbane (Australia) about to start

On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 20:41:04 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote: >https://www.rexx.org/ >Last Release Aug 2022. > Thanks. But wandering around to the mailing lists at: , the last post to "announce" was Feb. 2005, and "users" has only a couple posts per year.

Re: 35th International Rexx Symposium in Birsbane (Australia) about to start

On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 09:44:54 +1100, ronyF wrote: > >The link to further symposium information including the schedule can be >found at , just click the box on the upper >... (drifting) That page links to the Regina page at: which inv

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 16:46:00 -0600, Jon Perryman wrote: >On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 19:50:32 +, Jim Mulder wrote: > >>STCK, which inserts a processor related value in the low order bits to meet >>the "unique with a partition" requirement. > You (carefully) avoided making any representation about m

Re: SDWAEC1

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 13:48:18 -0600, Jon Perryman wrote: > >Joseph, you missed Peter's point. Clearly you don't understand this is not >about "seems like". By ignoring several clarification requests, you caused >lots of confusing posts because you forced false speculation that would have >been av

Re: Program Alias Names

On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 19:58:42 +1100, Peter Morrison wrote: > >The MVS (et al) Binder and program objects have been around for over 30 >years. > >It is possible to have aliases for program objects (stored in a PDSE) that >are longer than 8 characters. > >However, I have not found any facilities to (1

Re: Program Alias Names

On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 19:58:42 +1100, Peter Morrison wrote: > >Have I missed something or is it not possible to bring into storage longer >than 8-byte aliases from a PDSE? I would love someone to point me to other >facilities that I am not aware of. > Can a JUIX external link reference a long name?

Re: DD SYMLIST?

On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 13:45:18 +1000, Peter Vels wrote: >https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=statement-symlist-parameter > I'm looking at Page 263 of SA23-1385-60 z/OS 3.1 MVS JCL Reference with the page heading DD: SYMLIST >On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 at 12:46, Paul Gilmartin wr

DD SYMLIST?

What does the SYMLIST parameter of the JCL DD statement do? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SMP Packaging a PTF module replacement.

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 11:32:26 -0600, Joe DeChirico wrote: > >Thanks for all the responses, it appears that there was garbage in included >module, once I removed if from inline and used a ++MOD(VSHMNTSK) >TXLIB(ZPROTOBJ) . the problem went away. > I'm surprised that makes a difference? How did yo

Re: SMP Packaging a PTF module replacement.

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:07:24 +, Chalk, Shelia wrote: >Get rid of the numbers on the right hand side. > Why? Those are almost standard.. >... Then resubmit. What error message are you getting? > Yes. I prefer to rely on DDDEFs rather than DD in the JCL. -- gil -

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 15:39:21 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >Thank you very much Frank. I will try this out on my system. > >Would that such clear examples were available from IBM. > But beware of relying on examples in lieu of documentation. I once went to SR with a problem (I supplied the failin

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 21:54:56 -0600, Charles Mills wrote: >... your program or some other unrelated program -- has recently issued an > STCK and your program must spin, consuming CPU cycles, until a unique STCK > ... > >OTOH, if you do need a monotonic value, then you should redesign and rec

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 09:16:11 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >There is no z/OS UNIX callable service. ... > Remember fondly days of yore when mainframe partisans, such as one I worked with, boasted that all call interfaces, including EXEC PGM= by the initiator were identical? -- gil -

Re: zsh for z/OS

On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 15:32:07 -0500, Rick Troth wrote: > >Talk to me, Gil. Where'd you get that? Brew? Who's behind that >particular build? (I mean, did they put their names on it? Did they >provide contact info?) > It might be here: . I doubt they do z/OS. Are z/OS ports general

Re: zsh for z/OS

On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 15:09:57 -0500, Rick Troth wrote: > >I say you've found a BASH bug. >I can IMAGINE how/why BASH is failing on external links, but it doesn't >matter. The point is: IT FAILS and it should not. >Great catch! > Is it possible that zsh properly uses a POSIX function not supported b

Re: zsh for z/OS

On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 19:31:11 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote: > >If you’re still seeing bash on a Mac that probably means you started using it >before the switch. It’s been a while, but when they switched the default I had >to do something (probably in Terminal) to get it to switch for me. (It used to

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 21:50:07 -0600, Peter Farley wrote: > >There is an entire sub-section in the PoOps in the Control chapter >(SA22-7832-13, pp. 4-51 et al., starting most of the way down the second >column of that page) about the monotonicity guarantees for STCK{E/F}, even on >multiple CPU's.

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:22:53 -0600, Peter Farley wrote: > >The only HLL-callable function already provided in z/OS that I can find that >provides anything near that resolution is the LE Callable Services function >CEEGMT, but two calls to that service from a COBOL program in a row separated >by

Re: zsh for z/OS

On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 08:04:44 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >... >Issue the 'echo $0' command. > Also probably important: o What shell does "system()" use? Is it POSIX compliant? o What shell does system startup uxe? Some Linux use dash for performance. What are the benefits of zsh? Are there inc

Re: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system?

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 09:09:04 +, Rob Scott wrote: >We use git on z/OS extensively throughout the company and it is one of those >tools where you end up thinking "how on earth did I function effectively >without it?". > ISPF/LMF? -- gil

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 01:55:26 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The combination of a non-display entry field and blocking paste is devasting >to those with awkward keyboards or coordination issues. > My eyesight is bad enough that I rely heavily on spellcheck, copy/paste and audio I/O. Disability ri

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 17:28:53 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > >But I've encountered sites that prohibit OS desktop Paste into password >> field. > >Plenty of those. And some that allow a paste into the email field, but not >into the "verify email" field. That one just reinforces the feeling that >the d

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 21:18:28 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > >Regarding passwords - IMHO private notebook/organizer is much better >than saving passwords in web browser (do you remember password >stealers?) or other "nice and automatic" methods. Even IT illiterates >know how to protect paper orga

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Reading a scratch tape

On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 13:44:16 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >EXEC2 didn't exist in 1971. > But later, could EXEC2 read a PDSE? > >From: Seymour J Metz >Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 8:09 PM > >I would assume that it's difficult or impossible with PDSE,

Re: Banks migrate from mainframes to AI-driven cloud tech

On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 19:56:06 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: > ... about IBM zSystems than other platforms these days either, alas. > This discussion is driven by a mixture of technical expertise and sentiment. -- gil -- For IBM-

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Reading a scratch tape

On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 22:41:03 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: > >Actually, it does make sense (at least to me) to have this threshold set. >We've gone back more than once to rescue a developer or support person who >inadvertently scratched a tape the day before and we were able to recover it >for them

Re: Reading a scratch tape

rpomm...@sfgmembers.com> wrote: >In the "scratch category" settings, you can set an "expire hold" field that >tells the TS77xx how long to keep an expired tape before releasing it to >scratch. I believe that once that threshold is crossed, the TS77xx rewrites >the tape mark to the beginning of

Re: Reading a scratch tape

On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 20:34:14 +0800, Brian Fraser wrote: >TS7700 wont read a tape in scratch category, >I don't know about Control-M, but in CA1 there is a utility called CTSSYNC >to "protect" a scratch tape by altering the cat code back to non-scratch. > Assuming it hasn't been overwritten. Is ow

Re: Generate a data set with record numbers?

On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 16:18:16 -0600, Michael Schmitt wrote: >Reason I never knew you could have a sequential SYSEXEC is I'm on z/OS 2.4. >This capability is added in z/OS 2.5. > It has long been possible according to lore. A resourceful programmer looked at the control block description where was

Re: SDSF PS Command column

On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 11:02:07 +, Rob Scott wrote: >... >As to "why don't you just fix it ?"tstyle questions, we have to consider quite >a few compatibility issues across n-2 releases especially when the "fix" >requires changes to configuration and security ... > Such as users' embedding cry

Re: SDSF PS Command column

On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 21:47:56 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: > >Agree to disagree. I haven't checked the doc and maybe it isn't documented >that that field or >any field is limited to 40 characters, but it is not a bug to be fixed. It >could be enhanced >in the service stream, but it is most definitel

Re: SDSF PS Command column

On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 16:20:54 +, Rob Scott wrote: >The desire to avoid dubbing was purely down to requiring an OMVS segment for >the SDSF user. > Hadn't there long been default UID, and later automatic unique UID? But those might have wisely been defined lacking privileges needed by SDSF. O

Re: SDSF PS Command column

On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 09:24:07 +, Rob Scott wrote: >... When the PS command was originally written OMVS segments were not > commonplace and the design goal was to provide the data without being dubbed > ... > What is the penalty associated with dubbing? Would it be possible or even desir

Re: SDSF PS Command column

On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 15:55:26 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 19:30:39 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > >>Is there any way to get more than the first 40 characters of the associated >>command line for a job in the PS screen? > >Limited to 40 characters. regardless of what you put in ar

Re: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1

On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 16:36:34 -0600, Michael Oujesky wrote: >Presuming those control block revisions were made >with the specific intent to cause existing coding to fail. > >Michael > >At 05:14 AM 2/1/2024, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > >>This would work great if IBM hadn't also changed >>some control b

Timezone Database and POSIX

From a recent thread elsewhere (read with no subscription): Time Zone Database https://www.iana.org/time-zones https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2024-January/025094.html Since the next POSIX will require support for TZDB Zone names in the TZ environment variable, be more careful about phras

Re: GTF trace for a JCL error?

On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 14:41:59 +, Allan Staller wrote: > >You need to look at the JES output to determine the error. >Use the following command >S taskname,,,MSGCLASS=x where x is a held sysout class. > >HTH, > Wouldn't it be a good Idea to have a class for "Delete after one hour"!? I've ofte

Re: pax and extended attributes

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:42:46 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >I have to move some directory trees from one file system location to >another. >The tree is rather complex (dozen directories, hundreds files) and some >files do have extended attributes. >My goal is to preserve all the metadata like fi

xl/C data types?

(from another list) On 1/23/24 14:29:31, Arthur David Olson wrote: I'm wondering if an implementation [of C] is required to support all the features of the hardware it is meant for. (If not, implementations on [non-]power-of-2 word-size two's complement machines might not have some of the int

Re: Masking SMF data internally

On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 09:58:29 +0400, Jake Anderson wrote: >Hello > >We have a requirement of sharing our SMF data to vendor for a sizing >operation of our hardware connected to our mainframe > > >Our organization has a policy of masking the critical values before sharing >it. I see SMF datasets are

Re: Transmitting SMF records

On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 00:14:58 -0500, Cheryl Watson wrote: >I know that I’m late to this game, but we used to have a free tool to handle >this called ‘WWUNTERSE’, which has been used by hundreds of people. It is now >being made available by its original developer, Mario Bezzi, at this link - >htt

Re: Technical Reason? - Why you can't encrypt load libraries (PDSE format)?

On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 12:31:36 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: >... >For example, 256-bit AES can be broken by brute force-if you have until the >end of time. (And if you'll know it when you see it, another issue.) But that >"until the end of time" means you can use it to outrun the bear. > >When

Re: Technical Reason? - Why you can't encrypt load libraries (PDSE format)?

like argc, argv[], envp[] or a CALL R1 plist, or it depends? Where's the DSFS User's Guide to answer such questions? >____ >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 1:57 PM > >But UNIX program objects are "really files

Re: Technical Reason? - Why you can't encrypt load libraries (PDSE format)?

On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 18:06:24 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >I can imagine technical reason to not encrypt such libraries. >However encryption is a kind of data protection. Data. Not programs. > But some load modules/program objects aren't really files. As Ifond out to my dismay as a novice whe

Re: NFS Export of Data Set File System

On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 10:02:54 -0600, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >Not to argue - they should have a User's Guide but they don't. The key with >dsfs is that once you understand the /dsfs/type (txt/bin/rec/sysout) that is >it no different than using any other file in a filesystem. > Case sensitivity? D

Re: NFS Export of Data Set File System

On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 09:12:29 -0600, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >There is no users guide ... > Has IBM not noticed the lack? >... but there is an admin guide at > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=administration-dsfs-guide > That's for admins. But if there are differences between DSFS

Re: NFS Export of Data Set File System

On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:37:22 +, Mark Jacobs wrote: >Can /dsfs and the directories under it be NFS exported such that Windows/Linux >clients can connect to it and then directly read/write z/OS datasets? > What are you looking for beyond:

Re: How to configure using PDS members in JCL.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 11:41:16 +, Colin Paice wrote: >Thanks for all the suggestions. The best one ( thank you Charles) is [ I'm editint -- gil ] >... >// EXPORT SYMLIST=(*) >// SET USERID='CERTID' >... >//SYSTSIN DD *,SYMBOLS=(JCLONLY) >// INCLUDE MEMBER=LU > >Where member LU is > >

Re: EDIT MACRO REQUEST

On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 22:41:50 +, Steely.Mark wrote: >I would like to check each member of a PDS and if it is empty (0 Lines) - I >would like to add a line with the text of *NONE*. > What requirement does this satisfy? After you do this, how will you know whether a member containing the "*NONE*

Re: How to configure using PDS members in JCL.

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 12:39:17 -0600, Charles Hardee wrote: > >The one thing I forgot to say was that the member being included needs a >statement like this as the first entry: > >// DD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY > An alternative might be to concatenate JCL and the subject member into INTRDR. In eit

Re: How to configure using PDS members in JCL.

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 14:22:42 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >CPPUPDTE (nee IPOUPDTE) only changes a existing member; the easiest ways I >can think of to do what you want are ISPF file tailoring or JCL substitution >with a // INCLUDE. I would probably go with the former. > Oh my! Can an INCLUDE st

Re: allowed characters in member name

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 11:00:38 -, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote: >Using quotes around the DSNAME will allow any combination of Hex chars for a >Dsname I think (possibly excluding 44X'04' which represents the VTOC). However >these are not supported for SMS datasets, nor can they be catalogued, no

Re: allowed characters in member name

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 03:42:05 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: >Before LIKE, you needed IDCAMS to create VSAM files, after LIKE you could do >this with just JCL > Ah. So for PS or PO it has no advantage over DCB=dsname. Perhaps for SPACE? -- Thanks, gil --

Re: allowed characters in member name

On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 19:29:46 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: >Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>STOW 'Abc Xyz!'probably works. >>STOW 8X'FF' probably doesn't or produces unexpected results. > >Ah.this is in reference to the original question, so

Re: allowed characters in member name

On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 23:42:41 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Long ago (in OS/390?) IBM introduced a bunch of keywords equivalent to >subparameters of DCB, e.g., LRECL= is equivalent to DCB=LRECL=. I believe that >LIKE= was part of that. > Did LIKE add any expressive power that DCB lacks? I believe

Re: allowed characters in member name

On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 18:16:32 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: > >And Steve Beaver added: >>The simplest path on this discussion is to try it in batch or ispf. The only >>other way is in HLASM with the STOW macro > >Try what? Unclear what you're suggesting? > STOW 'Abc Xyz!'probably works.

Re: allowed characters in member name

On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 21:50:07 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: >DCB for the subparameters as been depreciated and, in my opinion, bad form for >most of the 40 years I worked on mainframes. The DCB=modeldscb form used for >new GDS allocations hasn't been needed since SMS came along. Early 90s'? >I may r

Re: allowed characters in member name

On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 21:04:48 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >... >I have to admit: I almost never used DCB keyword in JCL and (AFAIR) >absolutely never DCB=HLQ.DATASET.NAME. >When teaching JCL I explain it, but also advice to not using that. >BTW: LIKE=HLQ.FOO-BAR works like a charm. > in

Re: allowed characters in member name

er it improper for middleware (TSO, JCL, ...) to impose syntactic restrictipns beyond those enforced by the primitives. Apostrophes should be your friend. >> On Jan 7, 2024, at 13:55, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >> >> W dniu 07.01.2024 o 19:02, Phil Smith III pisze: >>>

Re: allowed characters in member name

On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 21:11:23 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: >Has anyone ever understood why data set/member names cannot start with >numerics? Just curious, as it seems like an odd restriction. > Left-to-right lexical analyzer that treats anything beginning with a digit as a number. Does the same

Re: Style (was: LISTDSI - ...)

On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 01:36:44 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >It is a capital error to assume unfamiliarity just because sombody eschews a >language feature. I am a very heavy user of abuttment in REXX. I agree with >Wayne that there is a good case for using variables in this particular case, > I ag

Re: allowed characters in member name

erter invoke Assembler to process DD statements? Is it in the generation of SVC 99 TUs? Is it in the expansion of the DCB macro? How does "DSN=HLQ.FOO-BAR" evade the restriction? >Paul Gilmartin wrote on 1/6/24 5:59 PM: >> On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 23:14:28 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka w

Re: allowed characters in member name

On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 23:14:28 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >... >For dataset names the addition is "-". This character can be used in >dataset names with no tricks like name in apostrophes, uncataloged ones, >etc. > But not, in my experience, in a reference to define DCB subparameters such as:

Style (was: LISTDSI - ...)

On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:25:09 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >Quoted strings always gave me grief. I started to use Q='7D'X and >concatenate my strings this way: > >Str = Q||DsNAme||Q. >LISTDSI(Str) > I find that less transparent and surely more verbose than: LISTDSI( "'"DsNAme"'" ) or even:

Re: allowed characters in member name

On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:33:40 +, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >>> What characters are allowed in JCL when specifying member name? > >Radoslaw, >In general, PDS member naming rules are ( assuming code page 037) > >• A member name cannot be longer than eight characters. >• The first member char

Re: LISTDSI - hardcoded dsn vs. read in from file

On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:06:10 -0600, Willy Jensen wrote: >or requote as a function, I think it looks nicer > > cc=Listdsi(requote(ds)) > . . >Unquote: return strip(space(translate(arg(1)

Re: LISTDSI - hardcoded dsn vs. read in from file

On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 14:07:20 -0600, Steve Estle wrote: >It fails on this instruction in 2nd scenario: > >x = LISTDSI(dsn) > What is the failure message? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: LISTDSI - hardcoded dsn vs. read in from file

On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 13:55:22 -0600, Steve Estle wrote: > >I'm sure I'm doing something boneheaded but can't quite figure out what. I >have a list of fully qualified datasets in a file that I want to read the >dataset names once per record and then once I've read the record with dataset >name th

Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX

On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 23:35:11 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I want to set up an environment that supports personal tools. I'd like to >allow the users to create VB libraries, ... > Access methods make UNIX files protean, reformatting them according to the allocation RECFM. Unfortunately, Binder

PLIST8=NO?

In I see: ,PLIST4=YES ,PLIST4=NO ,PLIST8=YES ,PLIST8=NO Then: PLIST4 and PLIST8 cannot be specified together. But can PLIST8=YES and PLIST8=NO be specified together? That's not explicitly prohibited. Are the semantics of

Re: SSH tunneling for unattended process.

On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 02:47:28 +, kekronbekron wrote: > >Correct me if I'm wrong but I think "ssh -L ..." is just to get to SSH on a >target machine via a non-standard port? > I believe that's "ssh -oPort=" which I use regularly to get to a nonstandard (portmapped) port. I once knew how to

Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX

re lack. (Again, PATHOPTS, PATHOODE and PATHDISP can't have a mixture of values.) >____ >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 5:10 PM >> >TSO can CALL BPXWDYN, subject to an onerous 100-byte PARM limit. > >In one case, fo

Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX

On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 21:13:17 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >In my case there is a CLIST effectively called from the READY prompt, so the >TSO environment should be fully initialized. > >The reason that it's CLIST is so I can use TSOLIB inline. > TSO can CALL BPXWDYN, subject to an onerous 100-byte

Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX

On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 18:10:08 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I'm in an applications role and installing external software, e.g., PDS86, is >not allowed. > >I just discovered that I don't even have access to SYS1.SAMPLIB. > !?!?!? What terrifies them? "Need to know" gone berserk? Fear of copyri

Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX

On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 18:01:19 +, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >>> Does CLIST or REXX provide an interface to ENQ? > >Via ISPF service named QUERYENQ > >https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=services-queryenqquery-system-enq-data > Does that show DSNs that are ENQed but not allocated? Is the OP con

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