On Sat, 27 Apr 2024, at 23:07, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
> "vel" is not Polish.
> And yes, it is "aka".
> BTW: WTF is aka??? :-)
"Also Known As", commonly used when listing aliases used by
criminals, eg "Fred Smith aka Fred Jones aka James Jones&q
are because I'm stretching the middle of each phrase so
that the texts (regrettably going to be displayed in a proportional
font) will still more or less be presented in sensible columns - tabs
don't work in the target application.
Sometimes I choose spac
s hostemu
extension; the docs suggest it works in Windows & Unix/linux. The
parameter after diskr/diskw is the whole taget filename, most likely
enclosed in quotes.
I've not tried it yet.
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but no-one can reliably use that to determine your actual address, without
experimenting with punctuation...
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> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 08:50, Jeremy Nicoll
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>> I just noticed that some posts here show the poster's own email address
>> whereas others have something like
>>
>> 0
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to do that ... but it looks as if the mails are there.
So... does Linda mean that they vanished from her gmail account,
or something else?
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, at 18:38, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2024, at 23:35, David Crayford wrote:
>> Working with REXX doesn't feel comfortable to me at all. I'm troubled
>> by the fact that every function call carries a potential side effect.
>
> EVERY function c
a flaw in REXX implementation(s) or in language design?
What makes the newer scripting languages unflawed?
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value for the stems? ...
... because his example didn't have quotes around stem names?
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hing like AutoHotKey (which is
much more versatile than its name suggests) to sit waiting for
such a popup to happen, and when it does, move it to
somewhere more central, or maybe to make them
appear in the middle of your currently-focussed window.
See: https://www.autohotkey.com/
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do to disguise its
elements.
Bear in mind that Windows already defaults to not showing file
extensions in File Explorer - lunacy in my view.
So it's probably to protect naive users.
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h you can find
his linkedin profile) at: https://www.stephan-brenner.com
There's also a forked version that apparently supports use with
Powershell or Python scripts, & makes changes to logging & use of
work directories, at:
https://github.com/mikefirefly/SilentCMD
though I've not trie
s the additional qualification of "in the
USA", and perhaps the likelhood of the Scandinavian option depends
on how close you are to one of the areas where many Scandinavians
settled?
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ame anglicised as "Dun Edin", the name
of the hill fort that was once here, in the times of the Gododdin.
Calling it "English" could start a fight here.
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; company that sells them, and provides other services, is up to the
> eyeballs in urgent requests for help from people who really need it and
> can't find it anywhere else.
Eg: https://simpleflying.com/boeing-747-400-floppy-disk-updates/
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2023, at 23:59, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Easy, the Vendors will have it set up for you to fill in some
> variables.
And if the variables they defined don't cover the /site/-specific
needs (that the vendors know nothing about)?
> On Sunday, September 3, 2023, 6:48 PM, Jere
e writing the code. THEY need to understand the ins & outs...
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faster/more efficient than using a set of PDSs.
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- libdef that temp pds (by ddname)
- display
- undo the libdef
- delete the temp pds
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Perhaps you could solve whatever problem you have by using proper
datasets for your sysout files, then iebgener-ing them at the end of
the job?
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to that, maybe in older vehicles.
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t sets a maximum speed not
the actual speed.
> They are also all in the right lane.
By "right" do you mean "correct"? Or do you mean the slowest
lane? In any case trucks are permitted to be in the next fastest
lane while overtaking a slower truck.
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t from that spoken in lowland Scotland.
See: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-66090102
Also, very many people who would consider themselves Scots,
but not speakers of Scots, speak mainly English with greater or
lesser amounts of Scots vocab intermixed.
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Well, we have terms in Scots (which isn't English) which are commonly used
in sentences with English terms around them.
Two short useful articles:
https://dsl.ac.uk/about-scots/what-is-scots/
https://dsl.ac.uk/about-scots/a-language-or-a-dialect/
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is (someone from
Texas A? - which even I, in Scotland, have heard of) is averse to
soap, it's unclear.
We're not all in or from the US.
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batteries in it in case the mains fails. That also gets fresh
batteries for both rehearsal and concert (not that I've been well enough
to sing or record anything recently).
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too). I think one reason it's still ok is that its peculiar body shape
means that it tends - if it falls off the bed - to roll (like a landing
paratrooper) when it hits the floor, cushioning the shock.
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as those words wll crop up in lots of posts.
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Yes, of course. But I answered in the context of I/O to the PDSes. It
seems weird that they'd be VSAM.
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I can't remember.
The conversation then moved on to implications of not being
able to SMS-manage datasets whose names didn't meet the
tighter rules that SMS used.
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better to getmain a page (or a few more), just for the
first operand to reside in, and then follow your "do it in chunks"
approach?
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their values, or their addresses in storage, or what?
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ispf member lists, and I was probably looking at the SMPMTS or SMPPTS.
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standard ispf utilities. I can't quite remember if they used
every single byte value in each of the 8 character positions, but I think they
might have done, thus allowing 256 ** 8 different member names.
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with nearly no in-person social life either. But for people who are, the
various social-media platforms make one feel much less isolated, and
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me if they want to. And also - you have to be a member to be able
to see other people's profiles.
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knew whether or not there should be an ELSE later on. It was
such a simple idea but it worked well for both programmers
& the compiler.
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want one of the more considered alternatives, eg
- does either hand actually contain a ball bearing?
- Can't tell. If it exists, how big is the bearing?
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those blokes".
(NB I'm not precious about using the word but some people's email
systems especially on corporate systems might not like me using it
in full.)
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> I also don't understand why fanny pack is offensive ...
Fanny is equivalent to the c-word ...
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It's not a technique you'd want everyone to start using!
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> Also Kipling.
Kindling ??(sorry)
>
> The root is from "bundle" of sticks and small pieces of wood, and by
> expansion to bundles of other things.
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* - which is a misleading term in itself, as it means a very expensive
private school, eg Eton.
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> I suppose this is based on rhyming slang? I wouldn't begin to know how
> to decipher it.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockney_Alphabet
where there's explanations.
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> ways are correct, like "rooter" and (don't know how to spell the other,
> maybe) "row-ter".
In the UK, usual usage is "rooter" for the network device, but "row-ter"
for the woodworking tool.
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the ispf edit (etc) enqueues - I can't remember the QNAME - SPFEDIT or SPFDSN
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and I don't remember have to resubscribe to a google list; it must have
been done automatically.
As far as I know the posting address hasn't changed - it's still
ispf-l-l...@nd.edu
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often very poor.
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> We have COMMAND=EXECUTE on a couple job classes.
Do you limit who can use those classes?
Does anything (RACF or whatever) limit which commands can
be executed?
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bring their own tools with them, with impunity.
When you refer to "These people think they are so smart...", who do you mean?
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I know that when I last worked I hardly ever wrote any JCL etc from scratch. I
looked for my own prior examples. If I had none, I browsed my immediate
colleagues' PDSes.
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IT "line_after .zl = (TemplateLine.L)"
> end L
Yes, but the only fractionally different
do L = 1 to TemplateLine.0
newline = TemplateLine.L
address ISREDIT "line_after .zl = (newline)"
end L
will surely work?
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s-focussed programming team,
at a UK bank.)
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twice?
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Perhaps you should have paid more attention to the last two lines of
text in every mail... That is, commands gets sent to a different
address from that used for posts.
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> Alas, KEDIT is missing important functionality.
Yes, but for those of us without your favourite, what else is there?
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anything
with it).
For me, Kedit plus its macros (in Kexx) beats any of the ispf-like editors with
macros not written in rexx.
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rmats, so that if some sort of
corruption breaks the binary file I can still use the other. Cunning people
have been known to write code to generate or adjust the plain text form.
It really IS a text & graphics layout program more than a word-processer,
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smoke
alarm positions defined in terms of the symbolic locations of the
nearby walls, and the distance from a wall that an alarm should be
placed at. It'd make the code easier to understand too.
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in a particular way.
What's more, I thought I could probably write some nifty rexx to
produce PS, if I ever decided to use this approach myself.
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> I have liked Waterloo Script since I was introduced to it and began
> writing Data Center Operation manuals using it.
Is an executable for it available anywhere?
If so, for what platform?
Is the source available?
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, at 05:35, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> That implies that the parser looks for possible ending
> delimiters before it parses the contents of the delimited
> string.
>
> It's not how I'd have designed it! I'd have gone with
> a strict left to right character by
string.
That's on p45 of "ISPF Edit and Edit Macros" SC19-3621-30)
That implies that the parser looks for possible ending
delimiters before it parses the contents of the delimited
string.
It's not how I'd have designed it! I'd have gone with
a strict left to right character by
arbitrary strings of
characters into their hex representations and issue commands
using the hex-format arguments.
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> Yup. Pet peeve: ISPF Edit has no way of escaping apostrophe, which otheer
> IBM languages
But "ispf edit" isn't a language. What do you mean?
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users could have got around the dialog-controlled stuff, they couldn't
change what the STC would do.
Depending on what your system does you may need some similar logic.
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> I hate, lathe and despise C ...
Hmm, is this what is meant in computing by a "tool chain"?
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Isn't JCL already a really good tool for what it does?
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The OS is SLES11 SP4 on IBM System z. SLES11 runs in a z/VM virtual
machine."
Google tells me that "SLES11" is SUSE Linux.
Presumably an ooREXX compiled under SUSE Linux gives one something
with no knowledge of, f
On Sun, 19 Dec 2021, at 20:18, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 20:05:01 +0000, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
>>
>>> The previous ply ...
>>
>>Every time I see this use of "ply" I think it's weird. It seems a
>> sort of back-formation from "
. Is it valid anywhere else?
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uldn't they have provided redirects from
the old location to the new one, and/or very visible banners telling
people that in so-many days the old link will no longer work?
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of some arbitrary control block looking for something.
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variant "node-js" which can be used on servers (instead of using
eg php), and - I think - also installed on users' machines to be
used as just another scripting language (so, like perl, python or
REXX).
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> For an alternative phonetic alphabet, this might be of interest (if anyone
> can supply the value for "h")...
There's lots of alternatives! See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockney_Alphabet
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who writes a compiler or assembler is quite complex. And very
likely thousands of lines of code that took years to develop. More in
line with the COBOL programs I was referencing. Not some 40 line REXX
program that took a day or two."
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use our Pascal compiler but that came from a German or
Austrian university and was ruled out.
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at the moment.
I have a handful of Kedit / KEXX macros which are (of course) mainly
meant to be run from the Kedit command line, but also work from
a Windows cmd.exe terminal window under ooREXX. The longest of
those is about 4100 lines long.
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> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, at 18:31, Bill Johnson wrote:
> > No problem with AH digs however.
>
> What is "AH", apart from
t together the run JCL (or
> whatever NCR called it) and submitted it, knowing it would crank for a
> few hours and we went home to bed. Came back in the next morning to
> see a good transaction file and everything balanced. Neither one of us
> to th
there of how that program works.
It's a whole lot less easy to understand than the equivalent written in, say
COBOL.
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cases are the glue that holds the other stuff together.
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/Less error-free/ ??
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As other people have asked, are the file's characteristics (recfm lrecl
etc) identical in the working and failing instances?
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What abend code?
Are the batch jobs finished at that point?
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WTO and also doesn't just take some literal text from the WTO and have
that executed as the actual command... since a mechanism like that is
likely to get misused.
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> In TSO, the argument of ADDRESS is case-insensitive; in CMS, case-sensitive.
> I understand it's a PSW. Sounds dangerous.
PSW?
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> On 24/06/2021 9:44 pm, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Jun 2021, at 01:57, David Crayford wrote:
> >
> >> For example, to create and ISPF in Lua you instantiate and ISPF object
> >> and then commu
ntax is ugly.
For those who haven't seen this sort of thing in other languages, here's
how it's done in perl and python:
https://perlmaven.com/here-documents
https://www.w3schools.com/python/gloss_python_multi_line_strings.asp
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(tso) command processor.
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